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Bump and Update Monday Open Thread: Where Will You Go (Oct. 10, 2016)

Some suggestions for those at or approaching retirement age:

Best places to retire 2016 (health care, residency permits, cost of living, and much more factored in)

This is (was) an open thread. Now it's limited to the topic, Where will you go?

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    Merida, Mexico is a (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by MKS on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 12:39:13 AM EST
    beautiful colonial city.    

    A Latino friend who has checked it (none / 0) (#31)
    by oculus on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 11:47:39 AM EST
    out tells me the cartels control Merida now.  Too bad.

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    Oy (none / 0) (#32)
    by MKS on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 11:52:10 AM EST
    What a shame.  I loved it when I was there.  Very balmy and pretty place.

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    Me too. Where better to drink (none / 0) (#35)
    by oculus on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 12:01:13 PM EST
    a Negro Modelo than under one of those arcades?

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    I like Hilo, HI just fine. (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 03:03:12 AM EST
    Having lived in big cities (L.A., Seattle and Honolulu) nearly all my life, I really enjoy the small-town ambience over here.

    Having been all the places (5.00 / 2) (#5)
    by fishcamp on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 07:11:16 AM EST
    you mention, Costa Rica would be my first choice.  It's quite simple for me since is has the best fishing.

    Too humid (none / 0) (#16)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 10:01:24 AM EST
    I need something drier

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    You definitely wouldn't like living over here. (5.00 / 1) (#30)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 11:45:25 AM EST
    Hilo receives nearly 200 inches of rain annually.

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    My father lived in Hilo for a decade (none / 0) (#46)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 12:48:51 PM EST
    I did not visit. The humidity is terrible for my asthma. Living here is miserable for me. One of my friends said, "But DC is humid!" No it's not. DC is not Alabama humid the same way Colorado is not Nebraska humid :)

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    I'm so used to Hawaii's humidity by now that ... (none / 0) (#58)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 04:38:02 PM EST
    ... my asthma can be kick-started when I visit my old stomping grounds in Southern California where it's much drier, and it takes me a few days to get re-acclimated.

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    I hope to avoid that shift Donald (none / 0) (#66)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 07:35:39 PM EST
    We have a BIG dehumidifier on the house. This summer was really wet though, had a hard time keeping it under 50 a few times. It's easily under 40% indoors this month.

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    D.C. Is quite hot and humid in the summer. (none / 0) (#71)
    by oculus on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 08:51:52 PM EST


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    Once again...humid for me (5.00 / 1) (#76)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Oct 11, 2016 at 12:12:08 AM EST
    Is AT LEAST 70+% with a dewpoint around 72 degrees. DC never touchs that cept a couple of times a year for a couple of hours a day and it falls rapidly. It is 70+% here with a 72 degree dewpoint from sun up to sundown over half the year. The rest of the year it's 60+% all hours day and night. Not sure you know what real humidity is.

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    The humidty here..right now...is 86% (none / 0) (#77)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Oct 11, 2016 at 12:15:24 AM EST


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    I am so happy right now (none / 0) (#47)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 12:51:10 PM EST
    The inside of my house is Colorado dry. It hasn't rained here in a month. But the farmers are panicking...I guess this is a drought here ;)

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    Victoria, BC. (5.00 / 3) (#8)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 08:28:25 AM EST
    Love the city, love the people, love the nature.
    Yes, come to the BC coast (none / 0) (#99)
    by robert72 on Wed Nov 09, 2016 at 01:36:44 AM EST
    I live on Vancouver Island. It is absolutely beautiful, peaceful, quite liberal (Canada is quite liberal under Trudeau - although it does have some semi-conservative areas - ahem..... Alberta) and there is no fear.
    Canadians find the American fear-of-the-other really odd. We now have a very multi-ethnic society, and get along very well. There are oodles of guns, but we generally don't shoot each other as there are rules about that sort of thing.
    Come along! After the good libs leave the US, then we will build the biggest wall in the world.

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    My sister is (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by CST on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 09:11:06 AM EST
    Looking into Canadian immigration just in case.  My parents recently retired in Vermont.

    I'm just wondering why they didn't all consider someplace warmer.

    Don't you think your parents (none / 0) (#23)
    by caseyOR on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 11:14:37 AM EST
    wanted to stay close to their kids and grandkids? And Canada would keep your sister closer to family as well. Also, she already speaks the language, unless she chooses Quebec.

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    Quebec is closest (none / 0) (#43)
    by CST on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 12:42:03 PM EST
    Although from my experience you can get by just fine with only English, I'm sure it helps to speak French if you live there.

    They moved to Vermont because my father's family had land there and as a retirement project my dad is slowly building out their house with help from his 60 year old friend and neighbor, and they live next door to my cousin.

    That being said, they probably wouldn't have done that if it weren't also close enough to Boston.

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    The French language and Francophone culture ... (none / 0) (#59)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 04:53:24 PM EST
    ... is an integral part of Quebec's innate charms, IMHO. I loved our visit to Montreal and Quebec City a few years ago, when we went to Albany to visit Elder Daughter in college. We also visited Hyde Park, NY and Burlington, VT, which are both beautiful and delightful places. The Hudson River / Lake Champlain / St. Lawrence River region is one part of North America which we might otherwise have never seen, had she not gone to school there.

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    I hope you saw Nelson Rockefeller's legacy (none / 0) (#73)
    by Mr Natural on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 09:34:26 PM EST
    the Egg and the Mall/Plaza.

    There aren't enough egg shaped buildings in the world, IMO.

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    Quebec City (none / 0) (#97)
    by CST on Thu Oct 13, 2016 at 11:08:00 AM EST
    Might be my favorite city in North America.

    Just stunning.

    That being said, I'm not sure I could ever live there.  The last time I was there it was -40.  

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    Been there and done that (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 09:14:18 AM EST
    for the past 13 years...

    Come to Tennessee.

    World class medical facilities.

    No income tax.

    Housing prices low.

    Plenty of entertainment facilities. Pro sports, college sports, casino's.

    Good fishing, hunting, camping, hiking.

    Four seasons but mild winters.

    That's great (5.00 / 2) (#15)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 09:59:14 AM EST
    if you're willing to live among people who think totalitarian dictatorships are admirable and apparently believe that eliminating freedoms for the majority of Americans is a good thing.

    Mexico is cheaper and the people are nicer.

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    Call off your attack dogs, GA (none / 0) (#17)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 10:37:48 AM EST
    Politics isn't everything.

    And I'll ask the owners of our two Mexican restaurants and a local construction firm why they are here.

    lol

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    Jim (none / 0) (#26)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 11:30:12 AM EST
    TN is a lovely place to visit. I've been there many times. I just would not want to live there.

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    Why don't you (none / 0) (#28)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 11:32:34 AM EST
    tell them you are voting for Trump before asking and see what they say?

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    A tad unfair (none / 0) (#20)
    by pitachips on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 10:51:32 AM EST
    You will find those types of people EVERYWHERE.  

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    You are correct. (none / 0) (#27)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 11:31:17 AM EST
    My reasons are majority/minority. I'm speaking of the majority of people in TN at least according to the polls.

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    funny... (5.00 / 2) (#74)
    by linea on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 10:04:47 PM EST
    your list of entertainment... pro sports, college sports, casino's, fishing, hunting, camping, hiking... are all things that either totally bore me or i totally hate. LoL - the only way you could make that list worse would be a 60s muscle car show and country music. ha ha!

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    Hiking is a chore (5.00 / 1) (#90)
    by Mr Natural on Wed Oct 12, 2016 at 05:28:59 AM EST
    Using your legs to carry yourself to places that you can become part of and observe with all your senses, the natural world, is not.

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    LOL! I love to hike and camp but almost all (none / 0) (#92)
    by vml68 on Wed Oct 12, 2016 at 11:11:33 AM EST
    of my (female) friends hate it. One of them now has 4 sons, so she goes along very grudgingly :-)

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    hiking a dirt trail (none / 0) (#96)
    by linea on Wed Oct 12, 2016 at 06:58:26 PM EST
    is a poor substitute for a stroll in a botanical garden with your lover's arm around your waist.

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    TN is becoming a popular destination (none / 0) (#18)
    by pitachips on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 10:48:44 AM EST
    A handful of associates from my circle (business and personal) have made the move to TN from Chicago over the last 3-4 years.

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    I have a sister in Memphis and friend in (none / 0) (#93)
    by ruffian on Wed Oct 12, 2016 at 12:00:21 PM EST
    Chattanooga. I have thoroughly enjoyed all of my visits to TN. Beautiful place, fun people. Can easily see retiring there someplace.

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    My son goes to Sewanee (none / 0) (#89)
    by Green26 on Tue Oct 11, 2016 at 11:15:51 PM EST
    On the football team. We like the school. Like Chattanooga and Nashville too. Haven't explored much else.

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    Sewanee (none / 0) (#91)
    by CoralGables on Wed Oct 12, 2016 at 06:58:06 AM EST
     Was on my final three list many many years ago. It was a little nerve-racking driving through the fog heading down from the plateau. It was the most beautiful campus of my final three but the expense also made it the first elimination.

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    Agreed, (none / 0) (#95)
    by KeysDan on Wed Oct 12, 2016 at 12:23:28 PM EST
    Tennessee is beautiful.  Never have lived there, of course, but always enjoy visiting and traveling through areas such as Knoxville and Chattanooga.

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    I'll stay in Oregon.. :) (5.00 / 3) (#11)
    by Cashmere on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 09:51:52 AM EST
    Baker City first, then Portland.  After my near 2 month roadtrip across the country, which I LOVED, BTW...  there's no place like home :).  My sabbatical is over, have been back at work for a week now, but the break was a wonderful stress reliever!

    Just a thought (5.00 / 1) (#40)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 12:13:30 PM EST
    I would recommend that before you become an expat you try living in the country, including the part you want to settle in, for an extended period of time.

    Back in the day I spent an extended period of time in Belgium working for a telcom corp under contract to DOS. At the end of the contract I was offered a GS position within the DOS with the stipulation that we would be outside the US for a long time before we could expect to be in the US.

    Even though Belgium had been nice I knew I did not want to become an ex pat any place.

    On a domestic level I have known two couples, one from CA and one from WI, who went "home." Both hated the heat and various other idiosyncrasies.

    Maybe NYShooter can share some insight about the Nashville area.

     

    That's good advice. (none / 0) (#54)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 01:48:38 PM EST
    People should really get to know the place to which they're considering to relocate, before actually moving there. Two friends of ours moved to Huntsville, AL upon the husband's retirement as an airline pilot. But they did so pretty much on word of mouth because they heard such great things about the place, only to discover after a few months that they really didn't like Huntsville at all. They now live in Tucson, AZ.

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    Nashville... (none / 0) (#62)
    by kdog on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 06:06:12 PM EST
    seemed to be on the upswing when I was there recently. Anywhere with top flight live music 7 nights a week jives with my constitution.

    And not only country, the indie rock scene is booming.

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    James Fallows reads HRC's hacked Wall St. speeches (5.00 / 1) (#81)
    by FreakyBeaky on Tue Oct 11, 2016 at 11:15:31 AM EST
    ...so you don't have to, and is shocked to find they are "schoolhouse rock good governance" speeches consistent with what she says in public.

    I said back then her instinct to stonewall these things is her worst, most self-destructive trait & she should have released the transcripts herself. Classic HRC unforced error. :/

    At this point, it's really not an issue. (none / 0) (#87)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Oct 11, 2016 at 04:56:24 PM EST
    The whole thing was nothing but a manufactured controversy, anyway. One of those speeches was posted on YouTube, and I found nothing in it that was objectionable.

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    Abandon friends, family, and neighbors who are (5.00 / 1) (#104)
    by FreakyBeaky on Wed Nov 09, 2016 at 10:23:37 AM EST
    STUCK HERE?!?

    NOWHERE.

    I'm going nowhere. This is my country every bit as much as it is anyone else's and damnit I'm right and they're wrong!

    A nice read (none / 0) (#3)
    by TrevorBolder on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 06:42:10 AM EST
    http://tinyurl.com/jpsabm8

    GOLDIE TAYLOR

    10.09.16 1:15 AM ET
    My late Uncle Buster, a barrel-chested white man raised in the woody bowels of Louisiana and a self-professed bigot, opened his life, his home and his heart to me. Wendell "Buster" Carson was ours by marriage but, even as he rests in his grave, our bond remains as indelible as the etchings on his marble tombstone.

    Key phrase (none / 0) (#4)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 06:57:37 AM EST
    I wonder now if even he would understand now how hurtful and divisive the Trump candidacy has been or the inherent dangers he would present as president.


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    I suppose everyone (none / 0) (#21)
    by TrevorBolder on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 10:56:55 AM EST
    Will come up with their own personal "key phrase"

    I did like this the best,

    In our brief time together, despite the complications of race and our differing politics, I came to know the full of his love--and I hope he felt mine.

    I just felt that the article was a much needed palate cleanser

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    I've known a few Buster's (none / 0) (#12)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 09:56:06 AM EST
    The idea that Trump may not have paid federal taxes for 18 years wouldn't have sat right with Buster.

    And the understanding that Trump was following the law, just like Soros, Buffett and every other rich person would have made the wild claims of the Left more of an aggravation than anything else.

    You see, Buster didn't need anyone to explain that the Democrats and Republicans were both crooked.

    He didn't need Trump to tell him that the jobs were being sent outside the country and that many jobs were being taken by people who weren't supposed to be here. He could see that.

    He would never believe that we need more Muslim refugees in the country and that we should ignore the attacks and terror that have came in the past years. He would know that only a small percentage of the refugees are radical islamists but any number is too large.

    So went Trump came along and confessed that he had used the system and said he would fix things Buster liked it but didn't really believe.

    But then most of the elites of both parties attacked Trump and all the Buster's I know said..."See, they're all the same. They don't want any changes."

    And Trump is still in there pitching.
     

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    Trump is pitching (none / 0) (#63)
    by jondee on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 06:56:55 PM EST
    like a guy with a live fastball and 20/400 vision who tipped a few before he went out to the mound..

    Even the Busters of the world are slowly backing away from him.

    And not because of any supposed "wild claims of the Left."

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    Ryne Duren (none / 0) (#64)
    by TrevorBolder on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 07:05:58 PM EST
    Scared a lot baseball players in his day

    With coke bottle glasses, a mean fastball, and a love to live fast,

    Opposing batters would always ask...Did Ryne go out last night???

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    But, heh, how fast is his fastball? (none / 0) (#67)
    by MKS on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 08:20:12 PM EST
    98 mph?

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    Uhhhhmmmm, ... no (none / 0) (#69)
    by Yman on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 08:32:06 PM EST
    And the understanding that Trump was following the law, just like Soros, Buffett and every other rich person would have made the wild claims of the Left more of an aggravation than anything else.

    That would be false ... yet again.  Trump - making his baseless claim about Buffet (who's tax return he has never seen) was just making it up ... as usual.

    Buffett Just Released His Own Tax Data to Hammer Trump

    "He has not seen my income tax returns. But I am happy to give him the facts," Buffett said in a statement. "I have paid federal income tax every year since 1944, when I was 13." ...

    "I have copies of all 72 of my returns," Buffett wrote Monday. "And none uses a carryforward."



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    Nobody is going anywhere (none / 0) (#6)
    by Dadler on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 07:33:07 AM EST
    Such empty noise. Stay here and fight, or are we all afraid to die in the streets of America, as Americans, to make it better? You don't leave when we lob murderous weaponry on innocent populations all over the world, but Trump is too much to make you stay? Fine. Atrophied in the mind, but fine. Trump is a piece of sh*t, who could argue that? And Hillary's new emails just revealed her to believe Wall Street should write their own regulations (literally an impeachment level opinion by here there) and that the Catfood Commission was right to suggest cutting social security, which she will never have to live on, wealthy corporate kneepadding wretch that she is. We are faced with a psychopath vs. a sociopath. No one wins in the long run. But nobody cares about the long run in America, so...good luck to us all.
    I didn't see any suggestion in J's post (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by Peter G on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 11:07:24 AM EST
    that her bringing up this topic was election-related. She has repeatedly stated that she does not believe Tr*mp will or can win.

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    The graphic in the post (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by CST on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 11:15:23 AM EST
    Says where would you move if Trump wins.

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    You're right, of course (none / 0) (#25)
    by Peter G on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 11:28:27 AM EST
    I am way too verbal, and not visual!

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    BTW, Obama is a sociopath to me, too (none / 0) (#7)
    by Dadler on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 07:35:48 AM EST
    So don't play the gender sociopath card on me. When you crave THAT level of power over peoples' lives, the ability to kill at will, you get no quarter, no benefit of the doubt, ever. Which is how it should be in a democracy.

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    Hoping DC :) (none / 0) (#13)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 09:56:27 AM EST


    Military friends in Honduras just visited Belize (none / 0) (#14)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 09:59:10 AM EST
    For all the hype they were shocked. They said it reminded of them of combat zones they've survived and no thanks!

    They are all in Haiti now delivering supplies. They say the Western peninsula severely damaged.

    No for Belize? (none / 0) (#19)
    by TrevorBolder on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 10:51:07 AM EST
    About 15 years ago I started scouting out potential retirement locations.
    Costa Rica topped the list,
    But Belize also made the list.
    A mate on a party boat I knew worked down there during the winters
    Also the home of the John McAfee affair.
    From what I understand the cost of living in Costa Rica has dramatically risen over the last 15 years, as it has become a leading retirement location.

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    Yes Trevor Costa Rica's (none / 0) (#33)
    by fishcamp on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 11:57:37 AM EST
    Cost of living has gone up, but it's still low compared to here.  The U S has always helped, or subsidized CR, so the stores in the cities have familiar products.  San Jose has excellent tap water, since we built them a big new system.  Remote area stores are quite different.  Once on a fishing trip we needed some canned tuna fish, and they had cans simply marked fish.  The bread is named Bimbo.  It's also one of those places where they don't know how to cut up beef properly, they just hack chunks with a machete.  But you get over all that soon.  I keep a 26' boat in Quepos, Cr, which is on the central Pacific coast.  Anything south of there is too hot and buggy.  Flamingo in Guanacaste state farther north is a good place too.  The 3rd world odors seem to get to me after about a month.  It's still the best choice though.  All it takes is money, just not quite as much.  

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    Except for the lack of an ocean, (none / 0) (#36)
    by oculus on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 12:04:08 PM EST
    maybe Guanajuatos.

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    Guanajuato is both a city (none / 0) (#44)
    by fishcamp on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 12:44:26 PM EST
    and a state in Mexico.  The city of Guanajuato has literally miles of under ground tombs where tens of thousands are buried.  It's quite an unique place, but like you mention, too far from the ocean.

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    Guanajuato? (none / 0) (#49)
    by Mr Natural on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 01:07:22 PM EST
    lol.  The best tombs are in the display cases above ground.  Pay the rate or they pull your mummified remains and sell tickets.

    Ok, it's been years since I've been there.  Do they still do this?

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    Speaker Ryan and House GOP members ... (none / 0) (#34)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 12:00:09 PM EST
    ... have scheduled a conference call today to discuss Trump, according to Capitol Hill sources, indicating their concern that a now-prospective Clinton landslide could have a potentially serious coattail effect on down-ballot races across the country.

    They should've had this call ten months ago.

    Wish Putin would hack and (none / 0) (#38)
    by oculus on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 12:05:16 PM EST
    send to Wikileaks.  

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    Agreed Donald (none / 0) (#48)
    by fishcamp on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 01:06:17 PM EST
    I'm sure the GOP is quite worried about what you mentioned, and the Donald's attempt at calmness last night failed miserably due to his lurking sociopathic demeanor.  His grammar is atrocious.  At least twice he used her instead of she, and his sentence structure is horrible.  Mine is not very good either, but at least I know that. I don't think he even realizes how bad he really is with the English language.  

    Congratulations to your Huskies, who gave the poor Ducks a true shellacking.  I did like the word webfoots on the jerseys and helmets.

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    Being an OSU BEAVER, I was pleased... (none / 0) (#51)
    by Cashmere on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 01:12:17 PM EST
    with the Husky win, and in Eugene to boot!


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    Yeah, that was some serious a$$-kicking. (none / 0) (#52)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 01:38:52 PM EST
    But given the can of whoopa$$ that Washington State opened on the same Stanford team demolished by the Huskies the week prior, I still have to wonder if the Huskies are really that good, or whether the Cardinal and Ducks were seriously overrated by preseason prognosticators, as were Notre Dame and Florida State.

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    Belize is ok, but (none / 0) (#37)
    by fishcamp on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 12:04:32 PM EST
    the good places, like Ambergris Cay are over crowded, and it rains too much for me.  Too many mosquitoes,  the tarpon and bonefish seem to be miniature varieties of the ones we have hero in the keys.  Belize city is a very messy place.

    Not a good place (none / 0) (#41)
    by KeysDan on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 12:21:51 PM EST
    for gays.  Although, Belize has made some progress with their Supreme Court overturning anti-gay law as unconstitutional.  Of course, still a lot of attitude promulgated by the Belize Prayer Network.

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    One casualty of Trump's explicit banter ... (none / 0) (#39)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 12:11:06 PM EST
    ... over a hot mic on the "Access Hollywood" video is his then-cohort Billy Bush, who's since been suspended by NBC from his duties on "The Today Show." Reportedly, many of his female co-workers are now agitating for his permanent dismissal.

    Quenca and Medellin are too (none / 0) (#42)
    by fishcamp on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 12:35:13 PM EST
    far from the ocean for me, but they are both quite lovely.  Panama is way too hot and buggy, but the fishing is excellent, and the girls love to go dancing.  The Algarve is truly beautiful, but no matter what they say, you need to know Portuguese, and that's a tough language.  You can speak Spanish to them and they understand perfectly, but they answer in Portuguese.  Montevideo, Uruguay is ok, but it's a crowded city.  Uruguay does have Punta del Este where many European movie stars seem to love, and it has the longest whitest sand beach in the world.  So there it is.  They are all very nice places, but I'll take CR over all of them.  Wonder who is using my boat today?  I have Roger, a type of boat manager, I hope.

    Lol (5.00 / 1) (#50)
    by TrevorBolder on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 01:08:05 PM EST
    I have Roger, a type of boat manager, I hope.

    I have looked into Costa Rican Fishing and Yoga vacations.  Saw some nice kayak fishing spots advertised..
    Also looked at the Peacock Bass trips into the Amazon. The Amazon alone would be an enticement to visit.

    Had to laugh about the boat manager, from reading up on Costa Rica years ago, saw the possible dangers of buying property and not living there. Had best have a very well trusted "manager"

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    costa rica vacation (5.00 / 2) (#57)
    by Jeralyn on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 03:40:36 PM EST
    go to the Osa peninsula and the Iguana Lodge -- owned by two former public defenders in Colorado and all the lawyers here who go just love it and return several times. It's in the rain forest, has the yoga (and I assume fishing) and it's reasonably priced, great food and camraderie.

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    Yes the Osa and Iguana Lodge (5.00 / 1) (#82)
    by fishcamp on Tue Oct 11, 2016 at 11:52:54 AM EST
    are wonderful places, and the fishing is excellent.  Those places are a bit too nice for me.  Quepos, where I usually go, and hope I still have a boat, has Wicked Wanda's Bar, and is self explanatory.  Quepos also has a casino, but I never go there...ha.

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    Costa Rica is beautiful. (none / 0) (#61)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 05:23:41 PM EST
    As vacation spots go, it's very affordable. It must be pretty popular, as Alaska Airlines just expanded its route system down there last winter to both Liberia and San Jose. They've been advertising the destination pretty heavily via email.

    Alaska also recently announced that they are introducing daily nonstop service between Los Angeles-LAX and Havana, starting in early January. My mother and aunt saw their ads and now want to go to Cuba, and they asked if we'd like to join them. If we can arrange the trip to coincide with spring break in March (my wife is a 4th grade teacher), we're gone. I'd love to see the country in its present time-warp state, before it becomes commercialized.

    Happy trails.

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    The upper Amazon (none / 0) (#53)
    by fishcamp on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 01:47:16 PM EST
    does have excellent Peacock bass fishing as well as Pavones, another type of bass.  Years ago a group of us fished at Lake Guri, Venezuela.  At that time the dam that created the lake was the largest hydro electric dam in the world.  They had built a resort type area for the engineers and honchos, that included a golf course, movie theater, bowling alley, and tennis courts.  When they finally finished the dam, they did turn it into a fishing resort.  Along with the Peacock bass the lake also has a strange, large fish named Paiyara, and they have two large fang teeth that protrude through the top of their heads.  Quite ugly.  They are caught with live Piranha, that are caught by jigging lunch meat on a small hook.  We soon had a bait well full of live Piranhas.  That was definitely the strangest fishing trip evah.

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    Had to look those fish up, Paiyara are cra cra! (none / 0) (#55)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 02:55:06 PM EST


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    Jim, one more insult to (none / 0) (#56)
    by Jeralyn on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 03:37:58 PM EST
    another commenter and you are back in time out, probably until after the election is over.

    I rarely disagree (none / 0) (#60)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 04:56:13 PM EST
    but this time I do.

    GA attacked me after I made a completely non political comment. My only response was to rightfully and accurately point out that she is 100% political at all times.

    Do what you want but I just wrote the truth.

    That's great (none / 0) (#15)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 08:59:14 AM CST
    if you're willing to live among people who think totalitarian dictatorships are admirable and apparently believe that eliminating freedoms for the majority of Americans is a good thing.

    Mexico is cheaper and the people are nicer

    .

    Why don't you (none / 0) (#28)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 10:32:34 AM CST
    tell them you are voting for Trump before asking and see what they say?

    You are correct. (none / 0) (#27)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 10:31:17 AM CST
    My reasons are majority/minority. I'm speaking of the majority of people in TN at least according to the polls.

    And these aren't insults?? Not only to me but to the entire state.

     My only response was to rightfully and accurately point out that she is 100% political at all times.

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    Rudy is on the campaign trail (none / 0) (#65)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 07:32:20 PM EST
    Telling the crowds there are certain words he'd like to say about someone, but he has to play nice. Maybe he'll say them in the locker room though.

    Uhhhh Rudy, that sucking sound? It isn't the support that abandoned you this weekend returning and it certainly isn't any one undecided choosing your candidate. Keep circling the drain though...booyah

    Here's one crowd that ain't buyin' Rudy's shtick: (5.00 / 2) (#68)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 08:26:11 PM EST
    The thousands of Ohioans who turned out tonight for Hillary Clinton in Columbus. Women will have their due, and history will be made.

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    I think Hillary takes Ohio (5.00 / 1) (#84)
    by pitachips on Tue Oct 11, 2016 at 02:01:57 PM EST
    The media underestimates just how much people despise Trump. Even in solidly Democratic Ilinois I'm constantly running into people who are dead set on dragging themselves and family to vote. These are people who probably skipped out in past elections bc the GOP never has a chance here.

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    Keith Olbermann sounds off. (5.00 / 1) (#70)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 08:35:34 PM EST
    It's vintage O. at his ranting and raving best, raging about something which dearly needs to be said and yet isn't being said nearly enough.

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    Meanwhile, at Trump HQ in NYC: (5.00 / 1) (#72)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 09:06:20 PM EST
    "This campaign is going to be so terrible, we're all going to smell like it for the next seven to eight years."
    - Michael Caputo, New York GOP operative

    Yes, Michael, you will -- but then, who's fault is that?

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    And it won't make J entirely happy (none / 0) (#75)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Oct 10, 2016 at 11:38:58 PM EST
    But Gloria A has been called by those who have been grabbed.

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    Gloria Allred is a bulldog. I love her for that. (5.00 / 1) (#78)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Oct 11, 2016 at 03:48:23 AM EST
    Women and men alike will turn to her when they feel they've been mistreated badly, and they see that nobody else is listening to them. They know that Ms. Allred's a fighter who knows her way around L.A. media, and she has a real knack for finding some way to level the playing field for her clients when facing off with the wealthy and well-connected. Personally, I think a lot of the animosity directed toward her is almost entirely superficial, based upon perceptions of personality and, to be frank, no small amount of sexism.

    Ms. Allred is passionate, she's aggressive, she stands up for people who often have little or no voice, and she gets results. All that runs counter to the white male-based narrative of how real ladies ought to behave and if need be, lose both nobly and graciously when other men's egos are at stake. Were she a man, she'd be described in flattering terms as real go-getter and unyielding advocate. But since she's a woman who not only plays a so-called "man's game" but actually does it better than most of her male colleagues, she's dismissed by many as a bi+ch or worse.

    Aloha.

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    There are dozens of lawyers who do the same (5.00 / 4) (#80)
    by Peter G on Tue Oct 11, 2016 at 10:23:25 AM EST
    but are not publicity hounds. That's why you know GA's name and not the others'. That said, I have been waiting and hoping that many former Miss USA contestants (or is it Miss America, I can't keep it straight), Apprentice and Access Hollywood staff and/or performers, etc., would now (finally) come forward with their first-person accounts. Let's see how their credibility stacks up against Broaddrick's, Willey's, and so forth.

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    Her past publicity and how she has handled (none / 0) (#83)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Oct 11, 2016 at 12:00:50 PM EST
    Others in the past I think is reassuring for those who are scared to death, embarrassed. If you come forward your life will never be same. She has evidence that it can be survived, maybe even healed.

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    Well, maybe they ought to take a page ... (none / 0) (#85)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Oct 11, 2016 at 02:09:49 PM EST
    ... from her playbook and become publicity hounds, too. Some wealthy and well-connected parties can only be brought to bay by taking the case public and shining a very bright spotlight on them.

    Conduct your litigation deferentially with such people out of the limelight and behind closed doors, and to paraphrase J.J. Gittes' associate Mr. Walsh in the film "Chinatown," they're likely to soon be having lunch with the judge who's hearing the lawsuit.

    Sometimes, your chances of obtaining some measure of justice depend upon your willingness to actually "go there" and blow bad actors up in front of everybody else. Gloria Allred doesn't hesitate to go there when necessary. She may be unpopular with establishment types in the legal community and elsewhere, and resented for her high-profile and often unorthodox (and even obnoxious) tactics. But she's seen by the little guys as one of their champions, and rightly so.

    Aloha.

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    I like that she has created a safe space (none / 0) (#79)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Oct 11, 2016 at 10:05:39 AM EST
    For womend dealing with sexual predators. She seemed key in getting Cosby victims to feel safe enough to come together, find support, and get some healing. It must be twice as a difficult to come forward when your assaulter is famous.

    I am not surprised her phone rang on this one.

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    And of course, what happened was inevitable. (5.00 / 1) (#88)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Oct 11, 2016 at 09:49:48 PM EST
    Gloria Allred and several women's groups mounted a public protest today in front of MGM headquarters in Beverly Hills, and took to the airwaves to demand that the company and producer Mark Burnett release unaired footage of Donald Trump from "The Apprentice."

    Given her record, I wouldn't discount Ms. Allred possibly delivering the final coup de grace to Trump and the GOP for 2016, just as she did to Meg Whitman's 2010 California gubernatorial campaign.

    Aloha.

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    Maybe it takes a publicity hound to put the (none / 0) (#94)
    by ruffian on Wed Oct 12, 2016 at 12:06:25 PM EST
    final nail in publicity hound's campaign.

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    It's the end of an era in San Francisco, ... (none / 0) (#86)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Oct 11, 2016 at 04:52:19 PM EST
    ... as Modern Times Bookstore Collective in the Mission District announces that it's closing its doors after 45 years.

    Interestly, just after you Jeralyn (none / 0) (#98)
    by Chuck0 on Wed Nov 09, 2016 at 01:17:22 AM EST
    suggested Ecuador, I received an email from my ex-pat sister in China to check out Ecuador. Says the country is friendly to ex-pat Americans. I need ro look at cost of living in Quito as a prefer to stay urban as I have special health needs.

    health care is free (5.00 / 1) (#100)
    by Jeralyn on Wed Nov 09, 2016 at 02:12:07 AM EST
    and excellent. Immigration for U.S. retirees is easy. All you need is a social security check of at least $800 a month. It has very nice, new and modern places to live very cheap. It's a World Heritage site. It's got great weather. It is in the mountains though, so if you can't do elevation, you might want to try a place on the coast. It is a 4 hour flight from Miami.

    It is not going to have all the comforts of the U.S. but you probably don't need them.

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    I'm not old enough (none / 0) (#106)
    by Chuck0 on Wed Nov 09, 2016 at 11:34:36 AM EST
    for Social Security and I have an old marijuana conviction so Ecuador may not be an option. I am only 80 miles north of DC so a trip their embassy may be in order to get more info.

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    Here's a list of the (5.00 / 1) (#101)
    by Jeralyn on Wed Nov 09, 2016 at 02:20:04 AM EST
    hospitals. The Ecuador health system was ranked in the top 20 of efficient healthcare systems by the the Bloomberg analysis of World Health Organization (WHO) information-- here's a list of the hospitals -- there are several good ones in Cuenca, as well as Quito and Guayacil.

    Here's the website for one.

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    Cuenca has no airport, (none / 0) (#102)
    by fishcamp on Wed Nov 09, 2016 at 07:22:34 AM EST
    and while it is a lovely city it is a nerve wracking six hour drive to Quito, the nearest airport.

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    Wiki says Cuenca does (none / 0) (#103)
    by fishcamp on Wed Nov 09, 2016 at 07:40:13 AM EST
    have the third largest airport in Ecuador.  It wasn't there when I was, years ago.

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    Nowhere (none / 0) (#105)
    by vicndabx on Wed Nov 09, 2016 at 11:11:49 AM EST
    I've got a mortgage and young brown children to worry about, um, er, I mean defend.

    #thankswhitepeople

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