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    Who else here is on Daily Kos? (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by Repack Rider on Sat Aug 15, 2015 at 03:25:59 PM EST
    Daily Kos is one of the biggest member supported political blogs, with 1.3 million registered users.  Of that number, my UID is #207, which means I signed up on the first day of registration.

    I noticed that TL member Military Tracy is following me on DKos, so now I am following MT there.  

    I was wondering whether any of the others here are also on DKos.

    BTW, the reason I am such a dedicated Kossack is that DK seems to get the news about three weeks before anyone else.  In 2003 the site busted Colin Powell for lying to the UN security Council.  Powell presented a paper that he called the "latest intel," but which DK members  identified as a decade old masters thesis presented at the University of California before he had even finished speaking.

    Apparently Powell found out that he had presented bogus intel only AFTER DK busted him for it.  DK has proven more accurate and trustworthy than any member of the previous administration or any aspect of the so-called "liberal" media, so I remain a loyal Kossack.

    I'm not. (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Aug 15, 2015 at 05:26:29 PM EST
    Repack Rider: "Who else here is on Daily Kos?"

    I turned my back on DKos seven years ago during the 2008 primary campaign for obvious reasons, and I haven't regretted that decision at all. The only exception is for BTD's occasional podcasts. Other than that, life's too short to bother with the self-marginalizing leftist equivalent of the Tea Party.

    Anyway, and speaking of self-marginalizing, I'm taking the week or so off from the blogs, starting today. Elder Daughter's getting married next Saturday afternoon, and we have lots of family coming into Honolulu for the occasion. We're flying over there tonight.

    I'll see you all again sometime next week. Aloha.


    Not sure (none / 0) (#10)
    by Repack Rider on Sat Aug 15, 2015 at 06:04:10 PM EST
    ...what the "obvious reasons" might be.

    I am aware that there are discussions I don't care to take part in, but I'm hardly throwing out the baby with the bathwater.  Where else can you find a million liberals under one roof?  Compared to the discussions on the conservative imitation site RedState, the most hateful DK discussion is barely even impolite.  You want venom, you gotta go with the conservative bloggers.

    There are great DK discussion groups outside politics, including several of my personal interests.  When I post on DK, a million people see it, and I get a ton more feedback than I do here.

    Those are the "obvious reasons" I follow DK.  


    please don't shill for another blog here (none / 0) (#11)
    by Jeralyn on Sat Aug 15, 2015 at 08:01:00 PM EST
    If you'd rather comment there, then do so.

    33108 (5.00 / 1) (#68)
    by BarnBabe on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 06:04:23 PM EST
    Just had to go look up my number. I last posted Feb, 2008. I loved DK, but some of his front pagers begin to act like the top dog and not realize other people had opinions other than theirs. I was just a small fry just like here but a lot more vocal there. Use to write diaries and loved Bill in Portland every morning. But I came head to head with someone who questioned my existence as I spoke up about Hillary. So I followed Armando over to TL and enjoyed all arguments here during that time but the DK put down broke the spirit for sure. At least I still am registered there. It was so much fun and newness. I believe I joined DK right after Kerry lost. Nov 5,2004. I was part of the deflocking of a Press Core mole. That was a fun weekend. Rarely go there unless my friend sends me over an article, The funny thing about the friend is that I use to beg her to join DK as she is so political but she lost all her excitement for a couple of years until Obama. In the last couple of months she has 'discovered' DKos. She got the bug, Heh,

    32080 (none / 0) (#70)
    by MKS on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 07:53:14 PM EST
    check in every once in a while.

    Joined on election day (5.00 / 1) (#72)
    by MKS on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 07:59:34 PM EST
    looking for polls and election results....Ha...what a night that was...

    I don't think Armando ever recovered.


    You were always the voice of reason (none / 0) (#113)
    by BarnBabe on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 04:21:46 PM EST
    I always respected your opinion and the way you would interject some 'intelligence' at the moment it was needed. We must have found DK on the same night of the election. I did not know how blogs worked at the time so I took a couple of days watching before I joined. Hard to believe 2004 was the beginning. I believe that I was so annoyed over the Gore SCOTUS thing in 2000 and then when Kerry did not win after what GW was doing, the blogs offered a way of joining in the big conversations. Better than chat rooms, they opened up a whole new world. I remember Tweety and Chuck Todd talking about them. Chris was so excited over the name of his new blog. I can not remember it but it was cute. I believe I found DK in a news article. Armando wrote wonderful no hold back diaries. I have to smile at how small a community DK was at the time. 33000 compare to a million. Good memories but like most things there is always a handful of people who want to ruin a good thing with disception.  

    Well thank you (5.00 / 1) (#130)
    by MKS on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 05:34:53 PM EST
    And that was something back then.

    Dkos really opened a door for participation by so many.....


    I'm there (none / 0) (#2)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Aug 15, 2015 at 03:29:20 PM EST
    but there are many days I think I must stay away.

    There are commenters and then (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by KeysDan on Sat Aug 15, 2015 at 04:13:45 PM EST
    there are commenters.  The former SNL comedian, Don Novello, had several funny characters, the most acclaimed was Father Guido Sarducci, who performed in a monsignor's get-up including a big, floppy, black hat that might be found on Ida Lupino's head in an old Turner Classic.  

    "Father Sarducci" had a lot of gags, such as guessing the number of Popes in the Pizza, or wheeling out a bishop-clad dummy in a wheelchair that he introduced as his boss, the 108-year old Cardinal Fungi, who, he said, became as sharp as a tack with just a little quaalude.

    But, some commenters make me think of his character, Lazlo Toth (after the deranged vandal of Michelangelo's Pieta, in St. Peter's Basilica)-- a pen name he used to write letters to people (mostly famous or celebrities) pretending to be misinformed or obtuse so as to provoke or tweak the noses of the unsuspecting correspondent.

     It was with glee when he nabbed someone and the correspondence charade was continued at length. The longer the better.   Novello published collections of the correspondence as "Lazlo's Letters," and "Bush to Bush."

    Unlike "Lazlo Toth,"  some commenters are not pretending to be misinformed or obtuse--they are the real deal.  There is much to discuss and even debate among liberals, centrists and independents.  It is a waste of time to engage wingers in their dishonest game. They become well-known and are as easy to spot as Father Sarducci's clerical hat.  


    Don Novello was one of (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by fishcamp on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 07:46:19 AM EST
    four stars I worked with on a TV series in Venice, Italy.  The others were Dick Cavett, Susan Sullivan, and Angie Dickinson.  In one of the scenes Father Guido was a gondolier taking Angie for a ride down a canal.  Everything was fine until we took a left onto the Grand Canal.  Father Guido is not a gondolier and we started spinning 360's in a very busy canal.  We were rescued and finally towed to a dock.  The whole scene was both dangerous and hilarious.  I spoke to him about the "Lazlo"s Letters" and he gave me an autographed copy.  He still receives letters, years later, from some of the heads of state to whom he wrote.  It was great to be a cameraman with those people in Venice, except it rained every day.

    Susan Sullivan. (none / 0) (#23)
    by oculus on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 08:55:39 AM EST
    I'll google.    

    She is the series Castle (none / 0) (#25)
    by Mordiggian 88 on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 09:01:00 AM EST
    according to the Wiki, since it started 6 years ago.

    Susan Sullivan (none / 0) (#36)
    by fishcamp on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 10:03:34 AM EST
    Was a star in The old TV series "Dallas".  More gossip.  She was dating one of the owners of Lorimar, who produced Dallas.  He lived in Aspen and Hollywood and was a ski friend.  

    Wasn't (none / 0) (#38)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 10:25:13 AM EST
    she in Rich Man Poor Man with Richard Chamberlain? I seem to recall that though I could be entirely wrong.

    Peter Strauss and Nick Nolte (none / 0) (#40)
    by MKS on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 10:52:38 AM EST
    Not Chamberlain.  He was in the mini series The Thorn Birds...Same genre, same era, though.

    Susan and Father Guido (none / 0) (#41)
    by fishcamp on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 10:52:54 AM EST
    Were with us only one day, so I didn't really get to know them.  Angi was great.  We did another sequence with her, out on Murano isle in a blown glass factory.  Dick Cavett turned out to be a very funny guy.  The next sequence was on the Orient Express, from Venice to Innsbyuck, Austria, which is only a five hour trip.  Dick played an Austrian train conductor.  It turns out he writes for German, Austrian, and Swiss TV Guide.  The next stars in Innsbruck, were Robert Urich and his wife Heather Lee Menzies, who was the little girl in pigtails in The Sound of Music.  She is still wildly popular and famous in Austria.  I'm remembering what a great job that was.  

    Susan Blakely (none / 0) (#42)
    by MKS on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 10:54:40 AM EST
    was in Rich Man, Poor Man.

    Okay. (none / 0) (#44)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 11:08:53 AM EST
    LOL. I got those mixed up apparently.

    MKS (none / 0) (#45)
    by fishcamp on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 11:19:49 AM EST
    You seem to know about the shows and their stars.  I wish I'd known you when we did shows with stars I'd never heard of from shows I'd never seen.  It made interviews difficult.

    Just coincidence (none / 0) (#49)
    by MKS on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 12:05:49 PM EST
    My Mom loved those two mini series....

    She wasn't (none / 0) (#52)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 12:18:27 PM EST
    the only one. IIRC they were very popular however I believe when they were popular I was in high school and didn't watch a whole lot of TV.

    Susan Sullivan was not in Dallas. (none / 0) (#57)
    by caseyOR on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 01:45:38 PM EST
    She was in Falcon Crest, the nighttime soap about a wine producing family in Napa Valley. Jane Wyman also starred. It was of the same era as Dallas.

    Sullivan also played Greg's mother in the sitcom Dharma and Greg. She now plays the mother of Nathan Fillion's character on the ABC show Castle.


    She was also in something else more in the (5.00 / 1) (#61)
    by ruffian on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 03:41:36 PM EST
    Rich Man, Poor Man time frame...I will have to look it up cuz it will bother me...hang on.

    Aha - Rich Man Poor Man, PART II!!!!

    I loved all the Rich Man, Poor Mar..what a great soap.

    Kind of related, did anyone else read Taylor Caldwell novels back then, 60s, 70s? So good!


    It's funny you should mention (none / 0) (#67)
    by sj on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 05:56:22 PM EST
    Taylor Caldwell. I was looking her up just last week and saw that a lot of her books are finally available for the kindle.

    I seem to always lose my copy of "Grandmother and the Priests" and I'm happy to see it available as ebook. I think I recommended to christinep at one time. She was such a good writer -- each of those stories are told in a different voice depending on the priest's origin. And such an interesting way to view the balance of good and evil.

    I have my eye on a couple of others as well.


    I'll look that one up - did not read it (none / 0) (#96)
    by ruffian on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 11:21:15 AM EST
    in my youth. I loved 'Captains and the Kings' and 'Testimony of Two Men'. Will have to look up more if they are on Kindle now!

    Yes Casey, that's correct (none / 0) (#59)
    by fishcamp on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 03:01:34 PM EST
    I was not sure which show she was in and couldn't remember Falcon Crest. They were both Lorimar productions and very popular..  Good catch, thanks.

    How would Novello have (none / 0) (#6)
    by oculus on Sat Aug 15, 2015 at 04:20:20 PM EST
    Impersonated a typical DK Bernie Sanders devotee?

    I think Novello would be (none / 0) (#7)
    by KeysDan on Sat Aug 15, 2015 at 04:34:04 PM EST
    more comfortable impersonating one of the Republican contenders.  Probably, check with Johnny Knoxville to see if he could borrow  from his movie, "Jackass."

    I read there too. But find (none / 0) (#3)
    by oculus on Sat Aug 15, 2015 at 03:54:35 PM EST
    the current atmosphere quite polluted.

    It is (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Aug 15, 2015 at 04:12:12 PM EST
    toxic and there are a lot of GOP trolls posing as Bernie supporters.

    Does Koz make these (none / 0) (#37)
    by NYShooter on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 10:17:30 AM EST
    alleged GOP trolls stamp a hammer & cycle tattoo on their foreheads? Or, is a patch sewn onto their breast pockets sufficient?

    (BTW, never mind, I just spoke to your source over there, and she told me Koz is through fooling around; those "trolls" now have to sew the patches onto their foreheads.)


    LOL (none / 0) (#39)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 10:26:19 AM EST
    No, but the catch is they are easy to spot because they sound just like Jimppj. They all have the same talking points and give the same reply no matter what the question is.

    I'm in and out at DK (none / 0) (#12)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Aug 15, 2015 at 09:03:01 PM EST
    Usually check in every few days and read the diaries on my following list. Armando has been putting some good diaries up so checking in a couple of times a day right now. Saw your dairy, read it, liked it, then checked the author...hey, I know that guy!

    i visit a few times (none / 0) (#16)
    by zaitztheunconvicted on Sat Aug 15, 2015 at 09:50:19 PM EST
    I visit a few times a year . . . based on your recommendation and the fact that they busted Colin Powell for using bad intel, maybe I should visit more often  .  . .

    7209 (none / 0) (#82)
    by ding7777 on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 09:50:42 AM EST
    Stopped being a regular during the 2008 primary. I just started going back again

    Dadler's Economics 101 Thought of the Day (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by Dadler on Sat Aug 15, 2015 at 09:42:29 PM EST
    If you think Goldman Sachs was too big to fail on the economic scene, what ton(nage) of flesh do you think China will be able to harvest? Not that I begrudge them, just that, you know, I'm just sayin'...  So it goes in the Ubu Roi of 21st Century power plays. Merde!

    I'm usually pretty good (5.00 / 2) (#18)
    by NYShooter on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 12:03:40 AM EST
    at reading between the lines, or, at least I think I am. But, dog-nab-it, you blew that one right past me.

    "you know, I'm just sayin'..."

    Actually, no, I don't know. Sayin' what, exactly? (for us, slower thinking elders.)  

    Care to re-write whatever point you're trying to make?


    He's referring to the problems (none / 0) (#19)
    by Mordiggian 88 on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 12:54:45 AM EST
    the Chinese Communists have been having managing their economy.  If they sneeze, those around them could come down with economic SARS:

    Bungling Beijing's Stock Markets
    The response of the Chinese authorities was remarkable: They pulled out all the stops to support the market -- suspending trading in many stocks, banning short-selling, pushing large investors to buy, and instructing graduating economics students to chant "Revive A-shares, benefit the people."

    All of this has stabilized the market for the time being. But it is at the cost of tying China's credibility to its ability to keep stock prices from ever falling. And the Chinese economy still needs more support.

    So this week China decided to let the value of its currency decline, which made some sense: While the renminbi was clearly undervalued five years ago, it's significantly overvalued now. But Chinese authorities seem to have imagined that they could control the renminbi's descent, taking it a couple of percent at a time.

    They appear to have been taken completely by surprise by the market's predictable reaction; namely, the initial devaluation of the renminbi was "the first bite of the cherry," a sign of much bigger declines to come. Investors began fleeing China, and policy makers abruptly pivoted from promoting currency devaluation to an all-out effort to support the renminbi's value.

    The common theme in these wild policy swings is that China's leadership keeps imagining that it can order markets around, telling them what prices to reach. And that's not how things work.

    I'm not saying governments should never interfere with markets, or even set limits on prices. There is, as I've written in the past, a strong case for raising the minimum wage and in general for promoting higher wages for American workers; there's an even stronger case for effective financial regulation.

    There's even a case for occasional intervention to prop up asset prices. Three years ago, the European Central Bank's promise to do "whatever it takes" to safeguard the euro -- generally interpreted as a promise that it would buy government bonds if necessary -- worked wonders. Back in 1998 the Hong Kong Monetary Authority purchased large amounts of stock to beat back a hedge fund attack on its currency, and scored a notable success.

    But these were short-lived actions, taken at times when markets seemed to have lost their bearings. Staffers at the Federal Reserve used to call these moves "slap in the face" interventions. That's very different from the kind of sustained intervention and political dictation of prices China seems to imagine it can pull off. Do the country's leaders really not understand why that won't work?

    If they really don't, that's a big concern. China is an economic superpower -- not quite as super as the United States or the European Union, yet, but big enough to matter a lot. And it's facing tough times. So if its leadership is really as clueless as it has been looking lately, that bodes ill, not just for China, but for the world as a whole.

    With a nifty reference (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 06:33:16 AM EST
    to avant garde theater which we don't get enough to of.

    The (none / 0) (#31)
    by FlJoe on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 09:38:45 AM EST
    Republican race comes close, real close. "King Turd" does seem rather fitting.

    They had King Log (none / 0) (#34)
    by Mordiggian 88 on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 09:54:25 AM EST
    in 2012 courtesy of Mitt Romney, and may end up with Donald Trump as King Stork next year.

    Bubble, bubble, Chinese trouble... (none / 0) (#33)
    by Mr Natural on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 09:53:56 AM EST
    Their economy is a supercavitated froth of bubbles.

    My nephew's wife is Chinese.  Her parents and in her words, everyone, is invested in apartments and ghost city real estate.


    Ah, o.k. Thanks, Mordi & Howdy, (none / 0) (#48)
    by NYShooter on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 12:03:53 PM EST
    I guess I could've done the Google and figured it out myself. But, then that's what I've got you guys for. lol.

    But, in all seriousness, the Chinese Leadership's management of this stock & real estate disaster is as frightening as it is fascinating. This story, unfortunately, is just in its early chapters. In a lot of ways it's reminiscent of the Tiananmen Square mess. It's really amazing how naïve their leaders are. They really believed they could mix a little dictatorship with a little democracy, and everything would come out really swell.

    Guess what? It won't.

    To be continued.............


    Yikes! (none / 0) (#26)
    by TrevorBolder on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 09:21:24 AM EST
    Not a very comforting thought, at all.

    Sigh (none / 0) (#75)
    by TrevorBolder on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 06:29:44 AM EST
    Child Actors Recreate GOP Debate (5.00 / 1) (#43)
    by Mr Natural on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 10:55:10 AM EST
    - wearing oversize flag pins. - Daily Mail

    In particular the video makes fun of Rand Paul's slip-up during his heated exchange with New Jersey Governor Chris Christie.

    Paul said: 'The Fourth Amendment was what we fought the Revolution over.'

    However the Fourth Amendment was ratified in 1791, about a decade and a half after the American Revolution began.

    totally reasonable statement, imho (none / 0) (#53)
    by Peter G on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 01:12:00 PM EST
    "The Fourth Amendment" is completely acceptable shorthand for "protection against arbitrary and unreasonable police searches, seizures, and arrests." (Just like people use "First Amendment" to mean "freedom of speech," even in contexts that a constitutional scholar would say were not governed, strictly speaking, by the Amendment.) John Adams once said, iirc, that when James Otis spoke (in the mid-1760s?) against colonial writs of assistance, "then and there, the child Independence was born." The Revolution can be said to have been fought, in part, to achieve the liberty that is presently guaranteed by the Fourth Amendment. I would not call that a gaffe at all, unless Rand Paul was teaching a college class in American history or a law school class in constitutional law ... which he wasn't.

    This is a better place... (5.00 / 5) (#56)
    by desertswine on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 01:41:31 PM EST
    thanks to people like Julian Bond. I met him when we were working in Fla. in '69 or '70.

    I remember watching him (none / 0) (#71)
    by MKS on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 07:57:04 PM EST
    during a Democratic Convention decline the favorite sun  votes for VP.  "Mister Chairman, I am too young."  (He was not the required 35 years of age to be President.)

    1968 I think.


    Yes, that was the 1968 Dem convention. (5.00 / 1) (#102)
    by caseyOR on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 02:29:50 PM EST
    Just one of the many stunning memories of that event.

    I have long admired Julian Bond.


    So (5.00 / 1) (#74)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 09:44:08 PM EST
    Mark Cuban even trashes the GOP.

    Forbes just released (5.00 / 1) (#83)
    by CST on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 10:00:08 AM EST
    a list of Top cities for female entrepreneurship.

    Chicago comes in at #1, and my hometown is number 2!

    The U.S. holds down the top 4 spots in the world, so I guess in some places we're doing alright.

    Mind you, none of these percentages are good.


    Trump Gets His Military Advise... (5.00 / 2) (#92)
    by ScottW714 on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 11:13:59 AM EST
    ...from watching the TV.

    Chuck Todd asked Trump who he would turn to for military advice. The billionaire gave a disastrous answer, "Well, I watch the shows. I mean a really see a lot of great. You know, when you watch your show and all of the other shows and you have the generals."

    LINK w/video

    I feel safer already.

    I saw this, too, and almost couldn't (5.00 / 1) (#97)
    by Anne on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 11:27:44 AM EST
    believe my eyes.

    It feels like - to me, anyway - that he's convinced that it's really not that hard to make military decisions, so all he really needs is a little Sunday morning time with the TV generals from the comfort of his own home.  He doesn't need their advice, don't ya know, but maybe there's a morsel of information he could use, right?

    His answer actually did put me in mind of the Katie Couric what-magazines-and-newspapers-do-you-read? question to Palin, who then answered, "all of them."

    We know, don't we, that even if he doesn't get the nomination, he will have parlayed the quest into a billion more ways to make billions of dollars?  

    All I can say is that Dems better get their sh!t the hell together - and not with Joe Biden, for God's sake.


    I Would Like to at Least Know... (5.00 / 2) (#101)
    by ScottW714 on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 12:32:33 PM EST
    ...what shows, what are we dealing with here, Band of Brothers, Platoon, Hogan's Heroes, the Hurt Locker, or MASH ?

    Anne, he's a BUSINESSMAN!!! (none / 0) (#98)
    by ruffian on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 12:08:23 PM EST
    Don't you know that is all the knowledge you need to do anything in the world? Get a little advice about logistics from some out of service for 20 years TV general, and you are good to go!

    Ha ha - how could I forget? (5.00 / 1) (#99)
    by Anne on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 12:23:05 PM EST
    Trump tells people what to do, and they do it, by God; he doesn't lower himself to asking anyone for advice or assistance.

    I'm convinced that he envisions himself installing nothing but yes-men in a Trump administration, if he even deems it necessary to have a cabinet at all.  What's wrong with Trump being President and Secretary of all the various departments?  And Attorney General?  Maybe he could put himself on the Supreme Court while he's at it.  And get rid of the other justices - who needs all those old guys/gals?

    I can't stand it, or him.  I have no idea why people are attracted to him as leader of the free world, or how they could possibly think he would be good for the country or good for the people who live in it.  

    It's just horrifying, like Stupid has gone viral.

    Someone make it stop.


    The people (none / 0) (#100)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 12:30:15 PM EST
    that are Trump supporters are people that have existed in a world of news where everything is either dumbed down or full of conspiracy theories. Everything he says could have been reported on Fox News or talk radio. These people fed on the diet of that kind of media truly think there's an invasion of Hispanics coming across the border and that they're all murderers and rapists. Trump is telling them what they want to hear and that's all they care about.

    I really think he is just tapping (none / 0) (#106)
    by ruffian on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 03:07:41 PM EST
    into the frustration of everyone who thinks all politicians are full of BS. Ironically, these same people have been watching the most full of BS 'news channel' and voting for the most full of BS politicians out there, so no wonder they are frustrated! At least deep down inside they still have a BS detector - it is just not sensitive enough to detect Trump's particular varietal.

    I don't think they think in terms of how he would actually govern.


    Won't (none / 0) (#95)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 11:20:45 AM EST
    make one iota of difference to his tea party supporters though.

    Right... (5.00 / 1) (#143)
    by ScottW714 on Tue Aug 18, 2015 at 08:28:18 AM EST
    ...even our local dough/dough head who claims to vote for the person that will keep us the safest, doesn't care trump gets military advise from Hollywood's greatest product, 'the shows'.

    I was actually looking forward to his explanation as to how watching 'the shows' makes Trump qualified to lead the US military, and of course, will keep us all safer than the rest.  

    But I guess Fox News hasn't told him what he should think about Trump's newly discovered military credentials.


    Fountains of Paradise (5.00 / 2) (#110)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 04:00:45 PM EST
    Arthur C Clark - 1952

    In the 22nd century visionary scientist Vannevar Morgan conceives the most grandiose engineering project of all time, and one which will revolutionize the future of humankind in space: a Space Elevator, 36,000 kilometers high, anchored to an equatorial island in the Indian Ocean.

    Going up? Space elevator could zoom astronauts into Earth's stratosphere
    Canadian space firm granted US and UK patents for elevator designed to take astronauts 20km (12 miles) above Earth so they can then be propelled into space

    "Trump" is a verb (5.00 / 1) (#126)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 05:06:55 PM EST
    Hillary just got off a one liner (5.00 / 2) (#140)
    by MKS on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 09:17:33 PM EST
    that is just priceless:

    All the Republican candidates are just like Trump but without the pizazz and the hair.

    She should get out there more.  She is good at this stuff.

    Many a truth (none / 0) (#141)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 09:20:38 PM EST
    is told in jest and that is true about the pizzazz. They all look like washed up has beens next to him.

    Breathable booze (none / 0) (#9)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Aug 15, 2015 at 05:35:14 PM EST
    this gave me a WTF moment.  

    Londoners, instead of drinking alcohol, why don't you just inhale it? Bompas & Parr's new pop-up bar - called Alcoholic Architecture - allows customers to get drunk by breathing in and absorbing booze through their skin and eyes.

    Located in Borough Market, Alcoholic Architecture is a "fully immersive alcohol environment" where customers inhale and absorb vaporized spirits and mixers at a ratio of 1:3 in an enclosed space. According to Bompas & Parr's website, "the cocktail cloud is made using powerful humidifiers to super-saturate the air."

    Fast Company reports that the vaporized alcohol is so powerful guests have to wear protective ponchos to limit their skin from absorbing too much of the stuff. The vaporized alcohol will get customers drunk 40% quicker than just drinking the booze as its standard liquid form.


    So soaking tampons in Vodka is out of style :)? (none / 0) (#14)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Aug 15, 2015 at 09:17:51 PM EST
    Better Watch Out... (none / 0) (#76)
    by ScottW714 on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 09:14:43 AM EST
    ...or they going to start seeing subatomic particles.
    Cloud Chamber

    Subatomic particles such as cosmic ray muons, alpha particles, and high energy electrons are striking our bodies all the time. In the cloud chamber, these particles ionize air molecules, creating delicate cloud trails by condensing supersaturated alcohol vapor. This is similar to the way condensation trails are formed in the sky behind airplanes.


    I wonder if when you leave (none / 0) (#85)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 10:08:01 AM EST
    you smell like a dog that's been dipped for fleas.

    Doesn't seem that attractive to me but who knows what the kids are into these days.


    Nor is Sealing Up a Room in College... (none / 0) (#87)
    by ScottW714 on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 10:25:15 AM EST
    ...and smoking weed for hours, but we weren't the only ones doing it and I am sure we didn't smell like fresh flowers.

    Seems like I remember even sealing up a car or two in high school, as well.

    I would give it a spin, but the older I get the more alcohol acts like a sleeping pill than a social lubricant.


    Some people (none / 0) (#89)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 10:33:15 AM EST
    like the smell of weed.   I do.

    I suspect fewer people like the smell of vodka.  And are you damp?


    I have no idea.  Just asking.


    I Do Too... (none / 0) (#108)
    by ScottW714 on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 03:48:20 PM EST
    ...but I don't like people who reek of it.

    But I also like the taste, and presumably the smell, of a good stiff drink, and for me that is Sweet Bourbon.  Although getting pulled over and reeking of booze might not be good.

    Perfumes & colognes are powered with alcohol, can't imagine that the smell would be anything but sweet.

    Powdered Alcohol Now Legal in U.S.


    "sealing up a car or two" (none / 0) (#107)
    by Mr Natural on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 03:34:49 PM EST
    yeah, I remember that, and when at the end of those car rides, we reeked.  But so did our current president at one point.

    NSA gives Nazified Name to premier AT&T Spy (none / 0) (#13)
    by Mr Natural on Sat Aug 15, 2015 at 09:08:45 PM EST
    program.  Stormbrew.  Ya can't make this stuff up.  

    In 2011, AT&T began handing over 1.1 billion domestic cellphone calling records a day to the NSA after "a push to get this flow operational prior to the 10th anniversary of 9/11," according to an internal agency newsletter cited by the Times.

    Gov admits No Fly list is Complete Speculation (none / 0) (#60)
    by Mr Natural on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 03:40:43 PM EST
    i.e., Based on Bogusity - The Guardian.

    In a little-noticed filing before an Oregon federal judge, the US Justice Department and the FBI conceded that stopping US and other citizens from travelling on airplanes is a matter of "predictive assessments about potential threats", the government asserted in May.

    "By its very nature, identifying individuals who `may be a threat to civil aviation or national security' is a predictive judgment intended to prevent future acts of terrorism in an uncertain context," Justice Department officials Benjamin C Mizer and Anthony J Coppolino told the court on 28 May.

    donald's great plan (none / 0) (#17)
    by zaitztheunconvicted on Sat Aug 15, 2015 at 09:53:08 PM EST
    I see that Donald has a great plan to deal with the troublemakers who are black lives matter protestors . . .  He or helpers will beat them up . . .

    Ain't that just the thing?!

    Is that too far? (none / 0) (#22)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 08:51:52 AM EST
    Will his numbers take a hit now? I can't tell on this issue.  I don't think I know how Conservatives around me feel about such things because I have too many big emotions about it and they want to avoid my full scale public freakout.

    He's got the Archie Bunker vote sewn up. (none / 0) (#35)
    by Mr Natural on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 09:54:40 AM EST
    Show Me A Hero (none / 0) (#24)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 09:00:24 AM EST
    appears to have mad potential.

    From PreviouslyTV-

    When Is It On?

    Sundays at 8 PM on HBO. (This is a miniseries, with two one-hour segments airing back-to-back on three consecutive Sundays.)

    Why Was It Made Now?

    Perhaps you've heard that racism is still a problem in America? Show Me A Hero would like to engage you in a discussion about that. Plus, it's based on real events -- Wasicsko was a real (and very troubled) Yonkers mayor -- which makes the relevance of the story even clearer.

    What's Its Pedigree?

The show is written by David Simon, who became a modern TV god after using The Wire to look at the ugly side of various political systems in Baltimore. All six episodes are directed by Paul Haggis, who won several Oscars, fled Scientology, and recently admitted that his own explorations of American race relations have not always resulted in great art.

    The cast, meanwhile, is overflowing with fancy people: Oscar Isaac plays Wasicsko, and his co-stars include Catherine Keener, Jon Bernthal, Alfred Molina, James Belushi, and my beloved Winona Ryder. Many of the smaller roles are played by Hey! It's That Guy!s like Bruce Altman, Terry Kinney, and Rene Auberjonois.

    David Simon is a gem, and I am very (none / 0) (#27)
    by Anne on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 09:25:46 AM EST
    much looking forward to this series - I already have it set to record.

    In the middle of my first viewing (none / 0) (#28)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 09:27:42 AM EST
    of The Wire.  I'm excited.  I like Oscar Isaac a lot. Something about him.  

    Wire (none / 0) (#29)
    by TrevorBolder on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 09:30:18 AM EST
    I saw it maybe 10 years ago, borrowed the DVD collection from the library.
    When I watched it, thought it was the best TV I had ever seen.

    Being a functioning TV addict (none / 0) (#30)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 09:37:50 AM EST
    its interesting seeing it for the first time all these years later.   I do love it.  And I completely understand the cult following it has developed.  
    The interesting part is that by current standards it's still good but other current stuff is better, which stuff owes much of its existence to The Wire, The Sopranos, Carnival.and those other pioneers.

    You have to keep reminding yourself when it was made and what else was out there at the time to really appreciate how brilliant it is.  

    Treme was good but never hooked me.


    TV addict (none / 0) (#32)
    by TrevorBolder on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 09:53:44 AM EST
    I do not have any premium cable channels, and do not watch any current shows on TV.
    Utilize my library , and saw 1st 2 seasons of Homeland last winter (very very good) and 1st 3 seasons of GOT over the winter. (Read all of the GOT books, I hear the HBO series veers off from the books).
    Spring through Fall is for surfcasting.

    Someone at work has mentioned something called Jetstream, a legal? (for now) box, that allows you access to all streaming video, with no monthly fee. I believe $300 for the box (need a internet connection). Don't know if I really could use it, but sounds like a TV addicts heaven


    Check out its reviews on Amazon (5.00 / 1) (#46)
    by Mr Natural on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 11:26:04 AM EST
    There are many unhappy people out there.

    Jetstream (none / 0) (#47)
    by TrevorBolder on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 11:57:48 AM EST
    On Jetstream?

    I have been talking about it with the IT guy at work, he is thinking about getting 1 for 1 TV , and keeping the full cable for the main room. As a test, and he would still reduce his monthly cable bill.
    Someone else at work knows someone that went all in and bought 4 for the house.
    Needs more investigation before I consider taking  the plunge, I am hoping the IT guy goes ahead and gets one, he could answer my questions.
    Just hate paying the cable company


    Unfortunately, I still remember (5.00 / 1) (#50)
    by fishcamp on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 12:06:49 PM EST
    When there was no television.

    Lived in Japan (5.00 / 2) (#73)
    by Chuck0 on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 08:57:38 PM EST
    from 1968 to 1972. I was 12 or 13 when we left. No TV during those years. We didn't speak fluent enough Japanese to watch local television so we didn't even have one in the house. But every night at 9 p.m. FEN (Far East Network) out of Tokyo broadcast radio shows from the 40 and 50's. So I grew up with Fibber McGee and Molly, The Great Gildersleeve, Have Gun Will Travel, Lights Out, The Shadow, etc. etc. etc. I subscribe to Sirius in my car just for the Radio Classics station. I still love listening to those old radio shows.

    Lol (none / 0) (#58)
    by TrevorBolder on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 01:59:56 PM EST
    Early memories, Black and White TV,
    Sunday night..Walt Disney,
    And maybe a little of Ed Sullivan before bed

    Jetstream (none / 0) (#65)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 04:54:59 PM EST
    dont know about this but there have been other services promising the same thing that turned out to be just an app that centralizes all the streaming services that are already free.

    You can now have HBO (the Show Me A Hero network) without cable.   Others will follow.  It's inevitable.


    Really good point (none / 0) (#63)
    by ruffian on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 03:55:45 PM EST
    I do remember the days when I barely watched TV at all. Then my friend at work told me about The Sopranos and I have had my Sunday nights booked by one HBO show or another ever since.

    I was late to the game to several series, like Mad Men, Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, The Wire...for whatever reason they did not capture my attention at the time they were new and I caught up with them on Netflix and then finished the series in real time.

    What has fallen off is my live movie going - I used to go to at least one movie every weekend. Now weeks or even months go by.  Part of that is my current location in Orlando where it is all multiplexes and only one theater showing smaller indie films - and it is one of those movie-cafe places that I don't like. And I can't stand the comic book franchise movies. Just not interested.


    Me too, looking forward to it very much (none / 0) (#62)
    by ruffian on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 03:45:03 PM EST
    Anything with that pedigree has to at least be worth watching.

    Oscar Isaac has so much potential - I've only seen him in the Coen bros movie about the folk singer, and loved him in that. Really looking forward to seeing him in this extended form story.


    Oscar Isaac (none / 0) (#64)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 04:39:59 PM EST
    had a great small part in the Bourne Legacy.   Maybe the best Bourne movie.   The first time I remember remembering him was in a movie called Sucker Punch.  A wild ride of a Zack Snyder movie and probably not for everyone.  But I loved it and he was perfect.

    So, what did you think? (none / 0) (#93)
    by ruffian on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 11:16:50 AM EST
    I loved the straight forward story telling. Seemed almost quaint - no flashbacks or flash forwards, no possible supernatural stuff, etc.  

    Like a real film from the 80's.

    Really interesting plotlines, maybe too many? But I'm interested in all the characters so I don't know what I would cut. Waiting to see how the stories intersect.

    Isaac meets all my high expectations. Keener was a little jarring at first playing someone older and buried under the wig and makeup,  but by the end she had me. I had to IMBD to see who was playing the mayor - did not recognize Jim Belushi at all.

    And of course politically relevant since these stories are still playing out today. Loved the actual use of the term 'not in my backyard'. Waiting to see if the Isaac character changes from a legalistic position to a moral one, or goes the other way (I don't want to look up the real story).


    Only saw the first half, but yes. (none / 0) (#109)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 03:53:18 PM EST
    being sunday I had to see The Strain and the season finale of Humans.   Which was great.



    Btw (none / 0) (#131)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 05:39:01 PM EST
    the season finale of HUMANS means next Sunday AMC will premier the long awaited spinoff Fear The Walking Dead.

    For those interested the story is about the beginning of the plague.  Which is a brilliant window because if you know the original series you know we know nothing of how it started.  The main character was injured, woke up in a hospital weeks later and the would had gone to sh!t.  Fear The Walking Dead is about those weeks.   And how the world ended.

    I am very looking forward to it and I urge those who have avoided Zombies to give it a shot.  The original series is IMO one of the best written and acted series ever.


    WSJ review (none / 0) (#134)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 05:57:32 PM EST
    "The Walking Dead" - a cable show based on a gruesomely violent horror sub-genre that is somehow one of the most popular shows on television -- is literally a monster hit. Its Sunday night rebroadcast is a top-10 rated show. "The Talking Dead," a talk show about "The Walking Dead," is a top-10 rated show.

    So why would AMC gamble on wrecking this undead golden goose with a spinoff, "Fear the Walking Dead," which premieres this Sunday?

    We had our fears when we first heard about a "Walking Dead" spinoff, and it had nothing to do with a zombie plague, or Woodbury flashbacks. It sounded like AMC was pushing its unlikely hit one step too far. How much story is there to really tell? Zombies eat people, people run, people fight, some die, some live to fight again. Moreover, myriad zombie stories have already lumbered over this ground. One of the refreshing things about "Walking Dead" is that it hasn't spent any time on the outbreak, but plunged the viewer right into the aftermath. Why essentially reverse that decision by producing an entire new show about the pre-plague days?

    After seeing the first two episodes of the new series, we can say this: "Fear the Walking Dead" has a legitimate shot at being as good as or even better than its older sibling. It doesn't feel like a money grab. At times in fact it almost seems as if "The Walking Dead" were a dry run of sorts for this show, that all the kinks had been worked out on the first series. We don't expect there's going to be any repetitive debates down on the farm with this new show.

    Prosecutor that Loves to Spend our Money (none / 0) (#51)
    by RickyJim on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 12:07:39 PM EST
    Also, Johnson County District Attorney Steve Howe twice turned down offers from Miller to plead guilty to first-degree murder if the death penalty were taken off the table. Howe is under a gag order and declined to say why he didn't accept Miller's plea deal in a state that hasn't executed anyone in 50 years.
     Link.  Of course he is hardly the only one.  As long as his job is not swallowed up by the civil service (as in most other countries on the planet) and he has to run for election, expect more of the same.

    Mike (none / 0) (#54)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 01:20:17 PM EST
    Huckabee thinks that 10 year old girls that are raped should be turned into birthing slaves link

    The Mighty Kwami... (none / 0) (#55)
    by Mr Natural on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 01:28:09 PM EST
    ... has struck out.  

    A three-judge appeals panel in Cincinnati said [ex Detroit Mayor] Kilpatrick failed to prove his trial lawyers had a conflict of interest and failed to show that his lawyers were ineffective. Kilpatrick and Detroit contractor Bobby Ferguson also failed to show they were prejudiced by testimony from federal agents during the trial, according to the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.

    all those people saying Donald should be (none / 0) (#66)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 05:47:40 PM EST
    We (none / 0) (#69)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Aug 16, 2015 at 06:24:15 PM EST
    think it's insane. The GOP base is going to lap that stuff up.

    The plan is to partially repeal the 14th Amendment (5.00 / 2) (#104)
    by Peter G on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 02:54:49 PM EST
    -- specifically, the clause in that Amendment which overturned the decision in Dred Scott. I am not one to throw the word "insane" around lightly, but for this, I could make an exception.

    the chattering class (none / 0) (#77)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 09:16:56 AM EST
    seems to have rounded the corner on the subject of Donald.  They have finally figured out he could win Iowa.  That he could in fact win the nomination.

    He can win Iowa, but at some point (5.00 / 1) (#115)
    by ruffian on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 04:24:20 PM EST
    the 75% that is not for him will coalesce around whoever the GOP bosses decide that favorite establishment candidate is - Jeb! or Walker or Kasich.

    Kasich seems to be the one getting the most positive chatter these days - I may have to switch my bet form Walker to him. In my defense, he was not in the race when I made my Walker-Rubio ticket prediction.

    I do stand by Rubio as VP pick. Nothing will sway me from that!


    I think they'll go for Carly (none / 0) (#117)
    by CST on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 04:26:48 PM EST
    Especially assuming Hillary is the nominee.

    I honestly think it will be Trump-Carly.

    I think the Republicans have created a beast beyond their control


    That would be awesome (5.00 / 1) (#119)
    by ruffian on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 04:30:14 PM EST
    Carly can definitely make Hillary look warm and approachable by comparison.

    Reminds me of when they thought Palin would attract the Hillary voters into voting for McCain. Ugh, no.


    Not buying that number (none / 0) (#118)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 04:30:01 PM EST
    if you add the support of (currently) Trump, Carson and Huckabee (1st, 2nd and 4th) it's over 50%.

    I don't see the supporters of candidates like those going to Jeb.


    Well...they went to Romney last time when they (none / 0) (#120)
    by ruffian on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 04:32:08 PM EST
    were told to fall in line...

    but this is definitely a wilder year.


    It's not just a wilder year (5.00 / 1) (#122)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 04:36:04 PM EST
    its Donald.  He has all the money in the world, says he plans to spend a billion, and the honest truth is, I understand the appeal.  

    Left out Cruz (none / 0) (#121)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 04:34:27 PM EST
    (CNN)A trio of Republican establishment favorites -- Jeb Bush, Scott Walker and Marco Rubio -- are all losing ground in the party's 2016 presidential field, a new Fox News poll shows.

    Donald Trump, meanwhile, continues to dominate the race, earning 25% support nationally, while another outsider, retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson, is running second at 12%. Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, known for locking horns with Republican congressional leaders, is third at 10%.

    In the new Fox News poll, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee tied with Walker for fifth at 6%.

    Trump, Carson, Cruze and Huck is 53%


    Trump (none / 0) (#124)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 04:59:54 PM EST
    definitely would pick up Cruz support and maybe Carson but I seriously doubt he would pick up any of Huck's.

    How can anybody be surprised that Rubio, Walker and Bush can be sinking in the polls after that debate? All three of them were perfectly awful.


    The fact (none / 0) (#125)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 05:05:28 PM EST
    that the media is pushing Kasich is precisely why he won't be the nominee. Kasich has a problem in that he took the Medicare expansion and actually embraces it and says it's a good thing. He's going before people who think Obamacare is socialism and the end of the world.

    That 75% number (none / 0) (#127)
    by NYShooter on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 05:13:54 PM EST
    will come down as, one by one, the lesser candidates start dropping out.

    You know, this Trump phenomenon is really quite fascinating. If you recall, we ("we" meaning the TL Community) have expressed the feeling over the past several year that things have gotten so bad that the question of whether the U.S.A. is even fixable has become a real concern. Piece by piece, office by office, agency by agency, all the levers of Government have become so completely corrupted that the term, "opposite sides of the same coin," has taken on a true sense of validity.

    The general public, whether the Far Left, or, the Tea Party Right, are united on, at least, one point: The corruption has become so total, the "capture" so complete, the .01% - .99.9% spread so imbedded, that there is, simply, no possible way to fix our country. The attitude of, "Blow it up, and, start all over again," is not as far-fetched today as it might have been just a few years ago.

    And, that's the unifying force that Trump has tapped into, and, that's why his candidacy, as inconceivable as it might have been just a short while ago, is not so unconceivable any more.

    And, why not, nothing else is working. Americans have seen the country auctioned off, Lock (The Presidency,) Stock (Congress,) and, Barrel (The Supreme Court) to a small group of Billionaires, that they don't even have the strength to "hope" for a better future.

    Trump, with his Trademark, "I can't be Bought," has a real appeal for people who, truly, have no reason to feel optimistic under the current system.

    That's why Trump has a better chance for success than we thought, and, unfortunately, that's also why Hillary has a real reason to be concerned.

    You're looking at an electorate that's "Got nothing else to lose." Strange things have happened to Old Power Structures under those conditions.


    The thing (none / 0) (#129)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 05:32:44 PM EST
    is the tea partiers are not against the 1 percent like perhaps the democrats are. They think the government is the problem and if we just got rid of the government then everything would be okay. In reality a lot of those tea partiers don't make a whole lot of sense.

    It is all very interesting (none / 0) (#138)
    by ruffian on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 06:54:09 PM EST
    Fasten your seatbelt..

    I'm very skeptical, or maybe just still have a misbegotten shred of faith in this country.


    Well (none / 0) (#139)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 06:58:33 PM EST
    I understand. Bush was able to lie to the entire country and get away with it. So I know where you are coming from.

    Yes but nobody will come right out and publicly (none / 0) (#150)
    by jondee on Mon Aug 31, 2015 at 12:50:25 PM EST
    say the country's been auctioned off (nobody but Bernie and Nader, that is.) And why the eff is that? Are our politicians all living in such absolute mortal fear that the cushy lobbyist jobs and speaker fees will dry up if they say the emperor has no clothes?

    Even the ACLU is now saying money is speech and corporations are people (never trust a lawyer..)


    Baa waa waa (none / 0) (#78)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 09:24:23 AM EST
    You and I predicted this a while back. It's hysterical that you and I can make better predictions than the moron pundits.

    With as many people that there are in the field in the GOP primary Donald's 30% is enough to win quite a few states and then when some of the kiddie table drops out there is no guarantee that he won't pick up some of their support.

    The real story that the stupid pundits are not discussing is the collapse of Jeb Bush.


    IMO it might also (none / 0) (#79)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 09:37:06 AM EST
    help explain MsClintons rather unconcerned approach to e-ghazi.
    Donald could get the nomination.  And even if he doesn't he will have done so much damage to the republican that if Hillary is not caught in bed with a live girl or a dead boy by Election Day, she will be president.

    And it's iffy on the girl.


    Frankly (none / 0) (#80)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 09:40:44 AM EST
    I think she's not concerned about e-ghazi because there is nothing there. I mean even conservative pundits like Douhat are starting to warn the GOP base off this story because as you know we've been there a ton of times before.

    Yeah well (none / 0) (#81)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 09:44:42 AM EST
    when have the ever cared if any of it was true.

    Maybe Doughat has forgotten about the web sites dedicated to all the people the Clinton's murdered.


    Oh (none / 0) (#84)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 10:03:00 AM EST
    I agree. The whole email thing will continue in the fevered minds of the GOP conspiracy nuts. I was really more talking of Douhat trying to get some of them to stop to make the GOP look more reasonable but I think that ship has sailed long ago. Obviously they aren't listening to the GOP elders with regards to The Donald so they're probably not going to listen to anybody. I just found it interesting that one was trying to tamp down on the crazy and say hey, people Hillary is not going to be indicted for anything.

    A very smart republican (none / 0) (#86)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 10:23:57 AM EST
    Bruce Bartlett, has said exactly what I - and I guess, you - have said-

    As a moderate Republican who voted for Obama, I should be Donald Trump's natural enemy. Instead, I'm rooting for him.
    The Republican establishment foresees a defeat of Barry Goldwater proportions in the unlikely event Trump wins the Republican presidential nomination. As Trump's lead in the polls grows, so too does their panic. Yet, for moderate Republicans, a Trump nomination is not something to be feared but welcomed. It is only after a landslide loss by Trump that the GOP can win the White House again.
    Trump's nomination would give what's left of the sane wing of the GOP a chance to reassert control in the wake of his inevitable defeat, because it would prove beyond doubt that the existing conservative coalition cannot win the presidency. A historic thrashing of the know-nothings would verify that compromise and reform are essential to recapture the White House and attract new voters, such as Latinos, who are now alienated from the Republican Party.



    Btw (5.00 / 1) (#88)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 10:28:55 AM EST
    i just hope I. Still alive when Donald's book comes out explaining how his goal from the beginning was to flush out moon bats and reform the republican party to make it a national party again.

    It will happen.   True or not.  It will happen.


    TV critic David Zurawik had some (5.00 / 1) (#90)
    by Anne on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 10:36:07 AM EST
    interesting observations and insights in his latest column:

    "He's the best deflector," said Chris Cuomo, co-host of CNN's "New Day" morning show. "He deflects better than white bounces off the sun. He is so good about making it about something else that he reminds me of the kid who, as soon as the glass breaks, quickly looks at his mom and says, 'It wasn't me.' He is that guy."

    Cuomo, who went 30 minutes with Trump last week and held his own as well as or better than any TV interviewer to date, said, "So, I ask him, 'What about those things you said about women?' And he says, 'I'll tell you who has real trouble with women: Jeb Bush.'"

    Acknowledging that the deflection worked to some extent, Cuomo said, "I didn't ask him about Jeb Bush, but he's brilliant at it. ... He is fast. He is nimble and he knows what works for him and what doesn't. And he knows a fundamental, almost hidden mystery of reporting: They never write down the questions; they write down the answers. He is very smart at making sure that he says what he wants to be on the record about."


    "When it comes to interviewing Trump, existing wisdom in the craft states as follows: A televised interview of a leading candidate like Trump should cover a range of issues -- not just one or two -- move the candidate off his talking points, and put the tough questions forward, following up when necessary to get answers," Rosen said.

    But with Trump, he said, "You can succeed at putting tough questions to the candidate and fail at any 'checking' function because the controversy he generates off your display of toughness overwhelms the original check. The resolution of the controversy becomes the story, and Trump surges on."


    I have been on this beat long enough to know the smell of fear from network and cable operations. And for all her early success in the polls and ability to generate massive online blowback against her critics, I didn't see any such fear of Sarah Palin in 2008. I think that's why the major flaws in her candidacy were exposed by Katie Couric and others by the time voters went to the polls. The TV press did its job.

    I think we should all be afraid, very afraid -- not of Trump, but of the timid, tail-between-the-legs turn that too much TV coverage started taking this week.

    That last paragraph is the real takeaway, in my opinion.


    Thanks for posting this (5.00 / 2) (#103)
    by Towanda on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 02:49:04 PM EST
    as a reminder to read Zurawik more often.  

    We were high school classmates and friends -- on the school newspaper staff, his start and mine in the media biz -- and he was so smart, even then.


    Oh - that is so cool! I have always (5.00 / 2) (#105)
    by Anne on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 03:02:58 PM EST
    found his critique to be spot-on, and really enjoy reading him.

    Yes, exactly (none / 0) (#91)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 10:41:17 AM EST
    when the press finally gets on board, and the sure looked like they were booking accommodations to me this morning, it's over.

    Once he starts getting positive coverage, which FOX was only the first network to fully understand is in their interest, watch out.


    Agreed, the media (5.00 / 1) (#111)
    by KeysDan on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 04:08:26 PM EST
    has been intimidated by Trump taking on Fox--and coming out ahead (hope Megyn Kelly is enjoying here vacation).  The Clinton campaign may have initially seen Trump as a summertime frolic that would go with the ebb tide- thereby, continuing  their critical focus on Jeb!

    The Jeb! attack is, in any event, a focus with a double vision:  One vision of Jeb! being washed ashore to live again necessitating Mrs. Clinton to critique Jeb! with confidence that he will fumble along, including re-fighting his brother's battles,  and the other that requires Jeb! to open his bags of  money in three early primary states to overcome devastating results for him at Trump's hands.

    Trump, at this point, seems to be firmly and indelibly smitten with his prospects for president.  The media treats him gingerly, and he seems happy--which I guess most would be if they got so far with so little substance. It will not go away,he has the bug.  His supporters are fanatical and rabid, and will help with the heavy lifting on his Republican contenders.  

    Mrs. Clinton, therefore, appears to have positioned herself well for Jeb! in the increasingly unlikely event that he should make it, and let Trump move in for the kill with the other Trumpettes.

    Mrs. Clinton, on the other hand, has a civilized challenge from Senator Sanders (less so with some of his supporters).  The big issue for Mrs. Clinton will be down the road when she is the successful Democratic candidate and the need exists to bring Sander's energetic supporters together in unity,

    Sanders' policies are and will continue to help shape those of Mrs. Clinton, but a Clinton/Sanders ticket is not one that would work.   It may well be that, the Captain and my thinking, that  Clinton/Warren would bring a united and bold ticket to a  Trump/Trump, or if necessary, a Trump/Susana Martinez/Kelly Ayotte/Palin??? Republican mess.


    Please Jeb! open up that bank vault (5.00 / 2) (#112)
    by ruffian on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 04:18:45 PM EST
    and unleash some negative ads about Trump. Can't wait for Christmas!

    Jeb! (none / 0) (#114)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 04:23:55 PM EST
    has apparently done that.  Don't know about the content but it seems he plans to drop some change on ads-

    (CNN)The super PAC supporting former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush's bid for president will spend $10 million on its first major TV ad campaign starting next month.

    But for the life of me I can't imagine (5.00 / 2) (#116)
    by ruffian on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 04:26:42 PM EST
    what a negative ad about Trump would look like -he is his own negative ad as far as I'm concerned. But I know the GOP ad folks have more imagination.

    It is a pickle (5.00 / 3) (#123)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 04:37:54 PM EST
    like satirizing satire.

    Jebya will provide. (none / 0) (#128)
    by Mr Natural on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 05:22:53 PM EST
    Yes, difficult to draw a (none / 0) (#132)
    by KeysDan on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 05:42:14 PM EST
    caricature of a caricature.  But, you know, we have those calls to run the government "like a business," as if it was one.   And, of all businessman, a developer.  It is the rare developer who never gets sued when the Homeowners take over. But, he is a celebrity, like Arnold S. who would surely be a great leader of Caleefornia. After all , he was a strong leader in those action movies.

    And, don't waste time trying to talk to his committed supporters (no pun intended).   I am a fan of ridicule as a political weapon, but that needs to be aimed at undecided.  Trump has the advantage of being the "mouth that roared."  And, no record. Why not start as president?   No governmental experience, not even dog catcher (at least the dogs are safe), to see how he did in a situation that was not a one-an show, run from the  top down.  Although, I fear Trump would like to adopt that business model.


    Maher was on fire this weekend (5.00 / 1) (#136)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 06:12:47 PM EST
    I imagine (none / 0) (#133)
    by FlJoe on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 05:48:19 PM EST
    the oppo research will find some shady deals and or characters in his past. I expect some "independent" PAC's to start launching some attacks in the fall, not sure if any of the candidates have the gonads to take him on the directly, at least not the ones who still have half a chance.

    I am still waiting for the Koch Bros to man up and fight back. Trump to his credit has called them out. Battle of the Billionaires part deux. I wish I was joking............


    Well (none / 0) (#135)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 06:09:45 PM EST
    apparently some stuff is bubbling up from the right wing accusing him of having mafia connections in NYC. Again, probably won't matter to his supporters but whether it would affect anyone else I don't know. The GOP is so crazy these days.

    The bullying and (none / 0) (#137)
    by KeysDan on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 06:21:59 PM EST
    braggadocio of Christie wore thin, but it took a while and needed a trigger such as the Bridge to Not Going Anywhere. And of course, there is Christie's abysmal record of governance in New Jersey  to analyze.

    A good business man can be a jerk.  It is not uncommon. And, what do you do with what is customary and usually considered a gaff, but is a shining example of something wonderful?  Or, how do you analyze a policy such as "I will repeal Obamacare and replace it with--something terrific."   Trump is mining Jerzy Kosinski's 'Being There."


    Donald Trump is Peter Sellers (none / 0) (#142)
    by MKS on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 09:29:08 PM EST
    "I like to watch T.V."

    Too funny.....


    Yeah (5.00 / 1) (#94)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Aug 17, 2015 at 11:19:47 AM EST
    that's been one of my theories from the beginning however I never imagined it would be The Donald that would be carrying the banner.

    Bartlett is right though. It is going to take a landslide loss for the GOP to reform and probably not even one with the Donald at the top of the ticket. It might take two landslide losses in a row.

    IMO people like Mitch McConnell are not worried about losing a presidential election so much as this kind of thing puts his own senate seat in danger.


    Jeb! and Donald tonight (none / 0) (#144)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Aug 19, 2015 at 03:05:55 PM EST
    holding dueling town halls at the same time a few miles apart.

    What could go wrong?

    Donald's crowd in Mobile (none / 0) (#145)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Aug 21, 2015 at 06:28:16 PM EST
    looks very young

    It would be interesting (none / 0) (#146)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Aug 21, 2015 at 06:36:03 PM EST
    if he chooses to mention the violence in Boston.   It would be very smart to say this is not good.

    Thank you (none / 0) (#147)
    by TrevorBolder on Fri Aug 21, 2015 at 06:57:28 PM EST
    For watching it for me. Do not have the patience for political speeches, even by entertainers, this far out from the election.

    Although, the age of the crowd might be in line with a anti government candidate.


    Just heard very loud (none / 0) (#148)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Aug 21, 2015 at 07:51:52 PM EST

    China (none / 0) (#149)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 31, 2015 at 08:10:43 AM EST