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Tin Soldiers and Nixon Coming... The curfew is over but the National Guard is on its way.

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    Amnesty Int'l.... (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by magster on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 02:07:51 PM EST
    sending delegation of monitors/observers to Ferguson; first time they sent this type of team to USA.

    "Nixon Calls in National Guard" (5.00 / 5) (#2)
    by unitron on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 02:51:11 PM EST
    Thus proving that even those of us who never dropped acid can still flashbacks.

    Not that it matters one iota... (5.00 / 2) (#14)
    by kdog on Tue Aug 19, 2014 at 10:13:50 AM EST
    but Michael Brown may have paid for those blunts.

    Regardless, it's all character assassination and irrelevant to the shooting and occupying jackboot army response to the protests.  But wouldn't it be something if the authorities just made that bullsh*t up?

    If he paid or not (5.00 / 2) (#15)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Aug 19, 2014 at 10:22:18 AM EST
    This

    How, then, did police get the tape? According to St. Louis News, the attorney said, "`during the course of Ferguson's investigation, the police department from Ferguson, came to the store and asked for to review the tape." In other words, the tape was not viewed by police until after Michael Brown was dead in the street.

    Is sort of important.

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    Indeed... (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by kdog on Tue Aug 19, 2014 at 10:29:05 AM EST
    the whole thing stinks on multiple levels, a plethora of levels.

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    Everyone is sweating the prosecutors (none / 0) (#18)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Aug 19, 2014 at 10:36:34 AM EST
    Decision to bring or not bring charges.  If he say he will not things will explode.  That could be why the National guard arrived.

    A grand jury will begin an investigation of the police shooting death of Ferguson, Missouri, teenager Michael Brown tomorrow, said Ed Magee, a spokesman for St. Louis County prosecuting attorney.

    objectivity of prosecuter questioned

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    Speaking of distrust... (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by kdog on Tue Aug 19, 2014 at 10:45:21 AM EST
    trust is what allows "civilization" to exist, maybe more than any other element.  Without trust, the house of cards has no foundation.

    Trust in the rule of law, law enforcement, the government & assorted societal systems may be at an all time low in the USA.  And frankly I don't know where we would even start in regaining the trust required for society to function and prosper.  It's feeling like the last days of the Roman Empire more than ever.

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    It is (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Aug 19, 2014 at 10:55:25 AM EST
    I know one thing, nothing about the way this incident has unfolded should inspire trust.  More importantly it is far from isolated.

    The decision seems to have been made that it is better to be feared than trusted.

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    And it goes way beyond... (none / 0) (#26)
    by kdog on Tue Aug 19, 2014 at 11:05:46 AM EST
    the arena of law & order...no trust in the fairness of our economic system, no trust in the political process...sh*t you'd have to be crazy to trust any of it.

    Monumental task to rebuild it, if it can be rebuilt at all.  B*tch might be too far gone, the fairy tale version of America too exposed as a fraud.  

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    FERGUSON, Mo. (AP) - The friend (none / 0) (#31)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Aug 19, 2014 at 11:31:03 AM EST
    FERGUSON, Mo. (AP) - The friend who was with Michael Brown when he was shot and killed by a police officer near St. Louis over the weekend is reportedly confirming that he and Brown had taken part in the theft of cigars from a convenience store that day.

    That word comes from the attorney for Dorian Johnson, speaking to MSNBC.



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    In an interview with msnbc (none / 0) (#32)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Aug 19, 2014 at 11:39:38 AM EST
    In an interview with msnbc shortly after the report was released, Johnson's lawyer confirmed that Brown had taken cigars from the store.

    "We see that there's tape, that they claim they got a tape that shows there was some sort of strong-armed robbery," said Freeman Bosley, Johnson's attorney. "We need to see that tape, my client did tell us and told the FBI that they went into the store. He told FBI that [Brown] did take cigarillos. He told that to the DOJ and the St. Louis County Police."



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    as far as civil unrest goes, this whole thing... (none / 0) (#3)
    by crimebird on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 09:24:31 PM EST
    has been rather tame...nine days of protests and no one (police, protester, civilian, looter) has been killed.  I've read of riots and civil disturbances in other places and other times where boatloads of people have gotten killed...for example the Rodney King riots where over 50 people got killed.

    I'm not saying that Ferguson is a nonstory when it so obviously is a BIG story but in the annals of civil unrest, it isn't going to merit more than a footnote.

    The first night with the (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 09:37:19 PM EST
    National guard seems a bit early to make that judgement.

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    "Nothing to see here...move along?" (5.00 / 2) (#5)
    by Anne on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 09:51:12 PM EST
    How...dismissive of you.

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    Things seem to be happening (none / 0) (#6)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 10:09:50 PM EST
    In Ferguson.  It's been noted that many more people are wearing masks tonight.

    week or so. I think I know why masks are so popular.

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    WTF? (5.00 / 2) (#12)
    by squeaky on Tue Aug 19, 2014 at 07:08:59 AM EST
    Now protesters=looters in your mind?

    Is that because many of them are black?

    Seems to me that with the NSA domestic spying issues, and facial recognition software, anyone protesting would want to have their identity protected from getting put on a NSA watch list.

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    Where does the commenter state that (none / 0) (#30)
    by Anne on Tue Aug 19, 2014 at 11:27:20 AM EST
    "protesters = looters?"

    Had you not considered that maybe he was actually looking at footage of people, you know, looting?  I mean, there has actually been looting.

    [ooh, careful you don't step in that pile you just left!]


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    Insults Again? (none / 0) (#33)
    by squeaky on Tue Aug 19, 2014 at 11:43:49 AM EST
    Glad to see how the feigned TL aristocrat avoids the vulgar, or imagines she does.

    SUO's comment was in response to this:

    Things seem to be happening In Ferguson.  It's been noted that many more people are wearing masks tonight.

    The context is not looting. SUO was trying to be funny, or something.

    Maybe check your browser to show nested comments so you can better follow the thread.


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    You wouldn't know context if it (none / 0) (#34)
    by Anne on Tue Aug 19, 2014 at 12:00:39 PM EST
    jumped up and bit you on the a$$.

    Howdy said he saw more people with masks.  "Masks" prompted SUO to say that he had been looking at pics of looters wearing masks.

    The context was masks.

    You were the one who went out-of-context to accuse SUO of equating protesters with looters; we've seen you do this kind of thing on a regular basis, so I would suggest that you spend more time working on reading comprehension.

    Right after you GFY.

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    Me, too (none / 0) (#35)
    by sj on Tue Aug 19, 2014 at 12:05:48 PM EST
    I lost context on that thread also, unfortunately.

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    Really Anne? (none / 0) (#36)
    by squeaky on Tue Aug 19, 2014 at 12:08:27 PM EST
    What were the people wearing masks doing in Ferguson that night the first night when the National Guard was out?

    Looting or Protesting.

    The latter, which is the context.

    The protesters are wearing masks because they do not want to protect their identity. One reason they may be wearing masks is that they do not want to be recorded by the National Guard and put on terrorist lists.

     

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    Correction (none / 0) (#37)
    by squeaky on Tue Aug 19, 2014 at 12:10:22 PM EST
    The protesters are wearing masks because they do not want to protect their identity.

    should read:

    They are wearing masks because they want to protect their identity.

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    The web is full (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Aug 19, 2014 at 10:48:48 AM EST
    Of how-to not be facially recognized information and why it's a good idea .  If I was there I would be covering my face.

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    To conceal that... (none / 0) (#11)
    by unitron on Tue Aug 19, 2014 at 07:03:14 AM EST
    ...they're from out of town?

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    So (none / 0) (#7)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 10:31:37 PM EST
    I'm watching this live and the riot squad arrived and are blasting loudspeakers telling people who are just standing there that they are unlawfully assembled and must disperses.

    If there is no curfew hiw is that legal?

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    There is a Zone to Lawfully Protest (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by ScottW714 on Tue Aug 19, 2014 at 10:56:48 AM EST
    I believe it's a half mile long.  

    Not sure how that works, they walk to the end, turn around and walk to the other end ?  All with stormtroopers in their battle regalia making sure no one dare protest in an un-designated area, which seems to be the rest of the United States.

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    They were also told (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Aug 19, 2014 at 10:59:12 AM EST
    The had to keep moving.  No standing.  No "assembly".  Isn't that supposed to be one of our "rights".

    Several protesters said last the intent if that was to wear them out.  I can't think of another reason.

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    Protest (none / 0) (#25)
    by squeaky on Tue Aug 19, 2014 at 11:04:06 AM EST
    Now the man is telling us how we are allowed to protest.

    Sounds like it is time to protest those rules.

    Wonder if that means getting shot?

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    The right to get beat, gassed, or shot... (none / 0) (#27)
    by kdog on Tue Aug 19, 2014 at 11:08:09 AM EST
    is the last one we got man!

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    Sure is Looking that Way (none / 0) (#28)
    by squeaky on Tue Aug 19, 2014 at 11:08:54 AM EST
    Depends (none / 0) (#8)
    by squeaky on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 10:39:17 PM EST
    If they are authorized to shoot the people.

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    Amnesty international (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Aug 19, 2014 at 10:46:28 AM EST
    Says even though there was no official curfew last night the police effectively enforced one.

    Yep.  That was my impression too.

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    Snark? (none / 0) (#9)
    by oculus on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 11:09:01 PM EST
    There are many types (none / 0) (#13)
    by jbindc on Tue Aug 19, 2014 at 07:30:03 AM EST
    Thus it has always been (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Aug 19, 2014 at 11:08:56 AM EST
    Is anyone disputing this?  

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    Ezell Ford autopsy (none / 0) (#17)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Aug 19, 2014 at 10:29:50 AM EST
    delay linked to Brown

    The delay on the Ford autopsy report comes after two autopsy reports were released regarding the fatal shooting of 18-year-old Michael Brown by Ferguson, Missouri, police officer Darren Wilson. The autopsy revealed Brown was shot six times.

    Brown, who was unarmed, was killed on Aug. 9. More than a week of unrest has rocked the St. Louis suburb following his death.

    Earl Ofari Hutchinson, president of civil rights community forum the Los Angeles Urban Policy Roundtable, questioned the LAPD's decision to delay the report, and linked Ford's killing to Brown's.

    "The blocking of the autopsy report of Ford comes on the heels of the release of the autopsy report on Michael Brown which contradicted the police version of how Brown was killed," Hutchinson said late Monday. "The blocking of the release Ford autopsy report further fuels suspicions about the LAPD's version of the Ford killing."

    LAPD says that on Aug. 11, shortly after 8:10 p.m., two anti-gang officers shot Ford after a struggle ensued during an "investigative stop" and Ford tried to grab one of their firearms.