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    Last year sometime I commented on the (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed May 29, 2013 at 06:26:07 PM EST
    observation that the "kids these days" don't have their own music.

    Well, after driving the other day with my son and 6 other 14 y/o friends of his, I found out they do, and it's pretty good music too.

    My son dialed radio to 104.3 MYfm, and every kid in the car knew every word of the song that was playing.

    Very nice light pop. Not 100% my style, but certainly a decent alternative.

    Yay! My kids have their own music!

    Just wait, (none / 0) (#6)
    by NYShooter on Wed May 29, 2013 at 08:35:04 PM EST
    they have a lot more that's "their own" coming down the pike.



    I'm sure you are right about that! (none / 0) (#36)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu May 30, 2013 at 12:37:43 PM EST
    Don't leave us in suspense... (none / 0) (#26)
    by kdog on Thu May 30, 2013 at 10:25:28 AM EST
    what artist?  

    I think it was Pink? Anyway, (none / 0) (#33)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu May 30, 2013 at 12:30:06 PM EST
    here's a playlist from their website:


    Bruno Mars When I Was Your Man

        Kelly Clarkson Catch My Breath

        Rihanna / Mikky Ekko Stay

        Pink Try

        Justin Timberlake Mirrors

        Pink Give Me A Reason

        Emeli Sande Next To Me

        Lumineers Ho Hey

        Phillip Phillips Gone Gone Gone

        Ed Sheeran Lego House

        Maroon 5 Love Somebody

        Maroon 5 Daylight

        Pitbull / Christina Aguilera Feel This Moment

        Kelly Clarkson Stronger

        Fun. Carry On

        Kelly Clarkson Darkside

        Icona Pop / Charlie Xcx I Love It

        Mumford & Sons I Will Wait

        Goo Goo Dolls Rebel Beat

        Calvin Harris / Florence Welch Sweet Nothing

    Great to see some musicians... (none / 0) (#40)
    by kdog on Thu May 30, 2013 at 01:25:54 PM EST
    who play actual instruments on the kiddies play list...all that is old becomes new again.

    Lumineers are on the Mountain Jam bill...I think they're the only act my 13 year old niece knew.  But she's all about One Direction;)  The two younger ones love them some "Skin & Bone" by The Kinks.

    Fat flabby annie was incredibly big
    She weighed just about sixteen stone
    And then a fake dietician went and put her on a diet
    Now she looks like skin and bone.
    Do the meditation and yoga
    And she's thrown away the good food guide
    And she's given up the alcohol and pizzas
    And the pies and now she looks as if she's ready to die,
    You can't see her walk by.

    Don't eat no mashed potatoes,
    Don't eat no buttered scones
    Stay away from carbohydrates
    You're gonna look like skin and bone.

    I like this playlist (none / 0) (#68)
    by sj on Sat Jun 01, 2013 at 01:43:13 PM EST
    The songs are familiar to me from SiriusXM channel Hits 1. I sometimes listen to the Morning Mashup.

    And I actually bought P!nk's CD instead of downloading a couple of songs.  I really like it.


    Last night I was watching PBS, (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by desertswine on Wed May 29, 2013 at 10:52:08 PM EST
    and they had some kind of tribute to Carole King. Pres. Obama was giving her an award for writing pop music, the Gershwin award it was called.  Anyway, she did a couple of songs with James Taylor. And I suddenly realized that I saw them perform together in West Palm, it must have been '70 or '71. My Lord that was 42 or 43 years ago, and we're still alive! I'm suddenly very tired.

    lol!~ (5.00 / 2) (#8)
    by nycstray on Wed May 29, 2013 at 11:38:38 PM EST
    I have a childhood friend that I have gone through life with. We used to say we've know each other for 10, 20yrs. Then it became, we've known each other since first grade. Now, we just say we used to make mud pies together. Much easier and less tiring than thinking actual years :) I'm kinda the same with music. I remember things by album/concert and just ignore what year it was if I don't want to get tired (or remember what I was wearing/my haircut!) ;)

    Carole King (5.00 / 2) (#69)
    by sj on Sat Jun 01, 2013 at 01:57:34 PM EST
    goes back even further than that.  She and Gerry Goffin wrote "Will You Love Me Tomorrow" for the Shirelles in the early sixties.

    She's just remarkable.

    I'm not only tired, my knees hurt.


    Turkey (5.00 / 2) (#12)
    by ScottW714 on Thu May 30, 2013 at 08:52:23 AM EST
    Finally cemented my trip to Turkey.

    Originally, we booked the flight with the intentions of island hopping in Greece.  The problem is all international flights go through Athens, which is a half day wasted both ways.

    Anyways, spending a week going down the Turkish Coast to Antalya for the rest of the time.  I had no idea Turkey had THIS.

    We booked the flights like 3 months ago because the price was beyond ridiculously and it's a direct flight from here.  I never really thought about staying in Turkey for the whole trip, but after researching it, I am pretty hyped about it.

    OMG - that's gorgeous. Please tell us all about (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by Angel on Thu May 30, 2013 at 09:00:29 AM EST
    it when you've returned!

    Gorgeous is right.... (none / 0) (#21)
    by kdog on Thu May 30, 2013 at 10:00:10 AM EST
    looks sick Scotty, have a blast!  

    And don't forget to report on the local hashish;)  


    They call the real good stuff... (none / 0) (#22)
    by Dadler on Thu May 30, 2013 at 10:09:42 AM EST
    ...Midnight Express. Ahem.

    Sounds like a lot of fun. (5.00 / 1) (#50)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu May 30, 2013 at 02:49:19 PM EST
    I've never toured Turkey, but I accompanied my mother, aunt and cousin on a trip to Greece in 2000, and we started our trip with two full days in Istanbul. My mother paid my way, so I couldn't complain -- but I really think the real reason she brought me along was just so I could carry the heavy Turkish rug she bought on the very first day we were there.

    Antalya is a wonderful small (none / 0) (#55)
    by oculus on Thu May 30, 2013 at 03:29:10 PM EST
    and beautiful city w/a wonderful, small museum. Enjoy.

    As we head into summer (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by jbindc on Thu May 30, 2013 at 08:54:29 AM EST
    Some new rules for sunscreen for you to consider, for example:

    ■ Look for products with an SPF of 15 to 50, and that are labeled "broad spectrum protection," meaning they protect against both UVA and UVB rays. Higher SPF values are misleading. "It's like the gas mileage sticker on a car. It's based on test conditions that you'll never achieve in the real world," said Ms. Lunder.


    ■ Avoid sunscreen sprays. The F.D.A. has banned sunscreen powders (though some products may still be available) and has asked for more data on sprays. The concern is twofold: that not enough sunscreen makes it onto the skin, and that the spray may be inhaled into the lungs.

    every day. Friends comment that the SUO family always smells like the beach!

    The inside scoop on Fox News ... (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by Yman on Thu May 30, 2013 at 09:07:28 AM EST
    ... from a liberal mole.  Some interesting stuff.

    Obama nominates James Comey, former (5.00 / 3) (#20)
    by Anne on Thu May 30, 2013 at 09:58:25 AM EST
    Bush DOJ lawyer,  to be the new head of the FBI.

    Yeah, the same Jim Comey who threatened to resign if Alberto Gonzales and Andy Card strong-armed the hospitalized John Ashcroft into signing off on the legality of the NSA wiretapping program.


    It was Comey, along with Ashcroft, Mueller, and Goldsmith, who threatened to resign if it did not stop, and they deserve credit for that. But the reason they didn't end up resigning was because Bush officials "modified" that NSA program into something those lawyers could and did endorse: the still-illegal, still-radical NSA eavesdropping program that spied on the communications of Americans without warrants and in violation of the law. And this was accomplished by inventing a new legal theory to accompany the old one: that Congress, when it enacted the 2001 AUMF, silently and "implicitly" authorized Bush to eavesdrop in exactly the ways the law expressly forbade.

    Thus, it was Comey who gave his legal approval to enable that NSA eavesdropping program to spy on Americans without warrants: the same program that produced so much outrage and scandal when revealed by the NYT. How can any progressive who spent the Bush years vehemently denouncing that domestic spying program as the symbol of Bush radicalism and lawlessness now cheer when the lawyer who approved it is about to be put in charge of the FBI?

    Then there's Comey's mixed and quite murky role in authorizing Bush's torture program. Internal DOJ emails released to the New York Times in 2009 show Comey expressing serious reservations, and even objections, to the willingness of Albert Gonzales to legally authorize any interrogation techniques the White House wanted, and he warned those officials that their involvement would be condemned by history. But even as he did so, Comey, as the New York Times explained, eventually, albeit reluctantly, gave his legal approval to those techniques:


    Comey will run the FBI alongside Obama's chief of the CIA, John Brennan, who spent the Bush years advocating multiple torture techniques and rendition. The Agent of Change reaches deep into the bowels of the Bush National Security State and empowers them to run two of the most powerful agencies. Then again, the Bush NSA program is hardly controversial in the Age of Obama: it was Obama who first voted to immunize the telecoms from all legal liability for their illegal participation in that program, then the Obama DOJ succeeded in having all lawsuits over that program dismissed on secrecy and immunity grounds, and then Obama himself succeeded in first enacting and then renewing the law that legalized most aspects of that Bush NSA eavesdropping program.

    Hey, maybe now we know why Obama didn't want to hold any of these former Bush officials accountable - he wanted the option to hire them to work for him.  Yay!

    "Conscious vs. Subconscious" vol. 14 (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by Dadler on Thu May 30, 2013 at 10:12:52 AM EST
    John Kiriakou's letter from prison. (5.00 / 2) (#25)
    by Anne on Thu May 30, 2013 at 10:13:37 AM EST
    You may remember Kiriakou as the guy who was "rewarded" for blowing the whistle on the CIA's torture program with a 30 month prison sentence.

    He sent a letter from prison to FDL - it's well woth reading, here.

    Here's link for those who can't open pdf documents.

    Kiriakou is (5.00 / 1) (#35)
    by Zorba on Thu May 30, 2013 at 12:36:26 PM EST
    "a threat to public safety"?  Really?  Really???
    I'm shaking my head here.
    He shouldn't be in prison at all.  He should get a medal for blowing the whistle on the torture program.

    Good but tragic news (5.00 / 1) (#44)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Thu May 30, 2013 at 02:36:49 PM EST
    Who Has Problems with Shotguns (5.00 / 3) (#49)
    by ScottW714 on Thu May 30, 2013 at 02:48:23 PM EST
    You should forward this to your 'we need assault riffles and endless clips to protect ourselves' buddies letting them know good ole fashion shotgun will protect them from intruders.

    A shot gun can certainly be effective (none / 0) (#70)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Sun Jun 02, 2013 at 10:40:49 AM EST

    However, the heavy recoil and difficulty in maneuvering it in the typical residence make a shorter, lighter, and lower recoil AR15 pattern rifle a better choice for many.  Particularly those with lesser upper body strength.


    You Don't Need a 12 Gauge... (5.00 / 1) (#86)
    by ScottW714 on Mon Jun 03, 2013 at 10:37:37 AM EST
    ...a 20 gauge may not be as effective, but it certainly as effective as an assault riffle with about the same recoil.

    The difference are more of a personal choice than a necessity.  One does not need an assault rifle to protect their home, one might prefer it, but then again, some would probably prefer C4 and motion activated machine guns.

    And of course it worked for the woman in your link.


    I'll see you (3.67 / 3) (#47)
    by jbindc on Thu May 30, 2013 at 02:41:36 PM EST
    And raise you the reported gun deaths just from today.

    And now (5.00 / 3) (#66)
    by jbindc on Fri May 31, 2013 at 02:53:07 PM EST
    The number of gun deaths in this country since the Newtown shootings, now surpasses the total number of Americans killed in Iraq.



    Single ledger bookkeeping (none / 0) (#71)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Sun Jun 02, 2013 at 10:45:08 AM EST

    Just for comparison, how many lives were saved from the threat of lethal force force in the same time period?  

    It seems your source chooses to ignore those altogether.


    I guess you can just make up (5.00 / 2) (#72)
    by MKS on Sun Jun 02, 2013 at 11:44:52 AM EST
    a number.

    Any evidence to support such a claim?


    Your NRA buddies don't want to know (5.00 / 2) (#73)
    by Yman on Sun Jun 02, 2013 at 12:56:49 PM EST
    Which is why they've prevented the use of federal funds to study gun issues for the past couple of decades.  For some reason, they'd rather use made-up numbers than actually find out.

    The Myth of Millions of Annual Self Defense Uses - A Case Study of Survey Overestimates of Rare Events


    An interesting article (none / 0) (#74)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Sun Jun 02, 2013 at 02:06:36 PM EST

    But even so, it still offers no difintiive count of defensive gun use, just another estimate.

    Then how can you argue (5.00 / 1) (#75)
    by MKS on Sun Jun 02, 2013 at 02:23:19 PM EST
    that statistics regarding self defense gun use be included?

    Apparently there are no such stats, or even an interest in having such stasts compiled.


    That's the point (none / 0) (#77)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Sun Jun 02, 2013 at 04:38:52 PM EST
    It is like arguing that ambulances should be banned because of the number of traffic deaths they cause every year without counting the lives they save.

    If you can't come up with both numbers you are arguing from ignorance or bias.


    Ah, so because your side won't (none / 0) (#79)
    by MKS on Sun Jun 02, 2013 at 08:10:54 PM EST
    fund any studies, then you can't argue it all....

    There have been studies (3.00 / 0) (#81)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Mon Jun 03, 2013 at 07:48:06 AM EST

    The problem is that regardless of who does the study getting an accurate estimation, much less an accurate count is quite difficult.

    BTW, the CDC is getting behind the curve on bed bugs, whooping cough, and TB.  It should keep focus on disease.  

    Perhaps a non-partisan outfit like the IRS would produce a study more to your liking.


    Perhaps we can get Darrell Issa to convene (5.00 / 0) (#82)
    by Angel on Mon Jun 03, 2013 at 07:53:07 AM EST
    Congressional hearings to discuss the matter.  

    As opposed to Mary Rosh ... (none / 0) (#83)
    by Yman on Mon Jun 03, 2013 at 07:53:09 AM EST
    ... or the NRA?

    Any day of the week and twice on Sunday ...


    Of course it doesn't (none / 0) (#76)
    by Yman on Sun Jun 02, 2013 at 04:08:02 PM EST
    Even if it did, what you'd really need to know is how many of those uses were legitimate/necessary and what the result would have been without the firearms, and then compare that with all the crimes committed with firearms, as opposed to just killings.

    Either way, it's just guessing when it comes to alternative results.  In real life, we already know how many people are injured and killed with firearms every year (accidentally and intentionally), not to mention all the other crimes committed with firearms.  These fairy tales about defensive use of firearms are nothing more than (at best) guesses.


    Nice inclusion of "necessary" (none / 0) (#84)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Mon Jun 03, 2013 at 08:00:15 AM EST

    Once you include "necessary" you can dismiss almost every defensive gun use as not 100% necessary.  

    For example, that shotgun blast that ended the threat of lethal force by an armed home invader may be deemed unnecessary by some because the home invader might have decided to grab the TV and leave without harm to anyone.  You can be sure of one thing, the Brady bunch at VPC has every incentive to deem any particular defensive gun use as not necessary.



    If you include UNnecessary ... (5.00 / 2) (#85)
    by Yman on Mon Jun 03, 2013 at 08:19:34 AM EST
    ... defensive uses of firearms, you'll include a lot of yahoos whose "defensive" use of a gun is anything but "defensive" (27% in this study).  Not to mention the studies showing that "most of the reported self-defense gun uses were hostile interactions between armed adolescents."

    When you put a gun in some peoples' hands, they start having Bruce Willis fantasies and seeing deadly threats everywhere - even when the threat could be avoided or only exists in their mind.


    Necessary, unnecessary (none / 0) (#87)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Mon Jun 03, 2013 at 11:56:53 AM EST

    To include either means making subjective decisions with no established criteria.  We have a process that does have established criteria.  If the defensive gun use is legal there is has a process to discover the truth.  Necessary/unnecessary is just somebody's opinion.



    The study has criteria (5.00 / 1) (#88)
    by Yman on Mon Jun 03, 2013 at 12:21:07 PM EST
    The determination of whether the gun use was legal also requires personal/subjective assessments of circumstances and evidence by police and attorneys, if such a use even gets that far.

    Legal does indeed require assesments (none / 0) (#89)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Mon Jun 03, 2013 at 12:29:34 PM EST

    But there is an adversary process in each case to determine the validity of those assessments plus an appeal process to boot. Not so for necessary/unnecessary opinionating.

    "In each case"? (none / 0) (#90)
    by Yman on Mon Jun 03, 2013 at 01:05:22 PM EST
    Heh - if you think that, you have no idea how these cases are counted or investigated.

    Read the studies.


    Many are not investigated (none / 0) (#91)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Mon Jun 03, 2013 at 01:40:08 PM EST

    Investigating legal behavior is not a priority for most law enforcement organizations.  So there is no way to determine necessity in those cases.  OTOH, not reported can be an indication that no one involved thought there was anything illegal to report.

    Take the George Zimmerman case for example.  Assuming he is found not guilty and his actions were legal, there will always be sizable numbers on both sides of the necessary/unnecessary opinion.  However, we will know for a fact certain (not mere opinion) whether his actions were legal or not.



    Speaking Anecdotally (5.00 / 1) (#94)
    by ScottW714 on Mon Jun 03, 2013 at 02:05:45 PM EST
    If I were to ask everyone I know, the times a gun has been pulled on them versus the number of times they could have used one to keep themselves out of harm's way, it would be about 100:1.  Speaking for just me, it would be 5 guns pulled on me to never needing a gun to protect myself.

    While I do have one, the ridiculous claims, with no shred of proof, that there are these vast numbers of folks who have guns to thank for their lives is nothing but pure wanton speculation.  As if someone isn't going to report that their life was in harms way to the cops because the person they believed to be dangerous got chased away.


    Neither is investigating ILlegal behavior (none / 0) (#93)
    by Yman on Mon Jun 03, 2013 at 01:51:14 PM EST
    When you only have Joe Rambo telling his side of the story - or exagerating a threat, or imagining a threat, etc.

    Read the studies - you should be able to figure it out.

    Either way, if you want to include these self-defense uses, it's up to you to provide the data/studies.


    Women as breadwinners - the horror (5.00 / 4) (#53)
    by Yman on Thu May 30, 2013 at 03:09:36 PM EST
    According to several Fox News pundits, it's practically the end of civilization as we know it:

    Lou Dobbs - On his Fox business program, Dobbs described the Pew study as "showing that women have become the breadwinners in this country, and a lot of other concerning and troubling statistics." He went on to call the report suggestive of "society dissolv[ing] around us."

    Juan Williams - What we're seeing with four out of 10 families, now the woman is the primary breadwinner. You're seeing the disintegration of marriage, you're seeing men who were hard hit by the economic recession in ways that women weren't. But you're seeing, I think, systemically, larger than the political stories that we follow every day, something going terribly wrong in American society, and it's hurting our children, and it's going to have impact for generations to come.

    Erik Erikson - When you look at biology, look at the natural world, the roles of a male and female in society, and the other animals, the male typically is the dominant role. The female, it's not antithesis, or it's not competing, it's a complimentary role. We as people in a smart society have lost the ability to have complimentary relationships in nuclear families, and it's tearing us apart.

    Coincidentally, all men.

    Go figure.

    Any one of those guys is more than (5.00 / 3) (#60)
    by nycstray on Thu May 30, 2013 at 04:01:46 PM EST
    welcome to start supporting me so I can stay home and act like a girl . . .

    No, no, no... (5.00 / 2) (#63)
    by kdog on Fri May 31, 2013 at 10:22:21 AM EST
    that's my job now!  I'm just happy to hear there are at least three less dudes in competition for a sugar momma;)

    Personally, I've always wanted a (5.00 / 2) (#67)
    by MO Blue on Fri May 31, 2013 at 09:13:09 PM EST
    "Male Working Wife."

    Can We Send Them Back to Mexico... (5.00 / 1) (#61)
    by ScottW714 on Fri May 31, 2013 at 09:09:06 AM EST
    ...back to Mexico with all the other wage depressors.

    My brother is a stay at home dad and he fricken loves it, but more importantly, he's really good at it.  I am shocked when I see the nitwit grew up with, doing all the stuff it takes to raise two kids, he's like, a real like, adult.

    I give props to the person who pours over right wing idiocy to come up with kind of stuff.  Cause even those 3 quotes drove me completely bananas.  

    The fact that they are even discussing women bread winners proves just how much progress we have made in spite of idiots like them.

    It would be nice to discuss what is really going on, us white males have become rather complacent, and as the job market drifts closer to an actually free market, turns out a lot of other groups are just as good, if not better, doing the same work.  The horror...


    "Conscious vs. Subconscious" vol. 12 (none / 0) (#1)
    by Dadler on Wed May 29, 2013 at 04:29:00 PM EST
    My mind is screaming Sarah Palin on this one. (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by Angel on Wed May 29, 2013 at 05:24:39 PM EST
    "Conscious vs. Subconscious" vol. 13 (none / 0) (#2)
    by Dadler on Wed May 29, 2013 at 04:30:33 PM EST
    6th Circuit rules on Federal death penalty case (none / 0) (#5)
    by TycheSD on Wed May 29, 2013 at 07:19:08 PM EST
    I am wondering if this will have an effect on other cases in states without the death penalty, particularly the Tsarnaev case.  

    Why would it? (none / 0) (#9)
    by jbindc on Thu May 30, 2013 at 08:11:30 AM EST
    The panel found (correctly, in my opinion, which is not to say I agree with the death penalty, just that the logic is sound):

    "That Michigan lacks a death penalty has nothing to do with these things," the Court of Appeals wrote, in a decision released Tuesday, May 28.

    "It has nothing to do with Gabrion's background or character. It has nothing to do with the reasons why he chose to kill Rachel Timmerman. It has nothing to do with the utter depravity of the manner in which he killed her. And above all it has nothing to do with his culpability for that offense or with any other consideration the Supreme Court has ever flagged as mitigating. Gabrion does not even argue the contrary."

    Now, the Gabrion case was unusual in that it appears it was the first federal death sentence imposed in a state that forbids the death penalty.

    What kind of effect do you think this ruling would have on jurors in Massachussetts, if Tsarnaev is found guilty?


    Here's (none / 0) (#11)
    by jbindc on Thu May 30, 2013 at 08:21:28 AM EST
    First federal death sentence in non-death state (none / 0) (#30)
    by TycheSD on Thu May 30, 2013 at 11:37:04 AM EST
    The precedent of imposing a death penalty for a crime committed in a non-death penalty state is established here.  I think it's wrong.  I think Michigan law should prevail, despite the murder being committed in a national park.  I'm wondering if law enforcement encouraged the Feds to take the case because of the death penalty option.  It seems like a technicality to me.

    If you don't think federal law should apply (none / 0) (#32)
    by jbindc on Thu May 30, 2013 at 12:01:53 PM EST
    to a crime commmitted on federal property, then where would you say federal law should apply?  

    Ultimate gun fail? (none / 0) (#10)
    by CoralGables on Thu May 30, 2013 at 08:20:34 AM EST
    With the mental drain of reading of kids being killed in accidental shootings with their parent's gun (bought for safety of course), this accidental shooting has to be classified as the ultimate gun fail. (no kids involved)

    An active-duty serviceman accidentally shoots his mother in the leg....on Memorial Day...at Arlington National Cemetery.

    ARLINGTON -- A woman was injured after an accidental shooting in the parking lot at Arlington National Cemetery on Memorial Day.

    Sharon Walker, a spokeswoman for Joint Base Myer-Henderson Hall, which responded to the incident, said the gun fell out of a cemetery visitor's car. Walker said the gun fell under the car and the owner, an active-duty serviceman, tried to retrieve it.

    Walker said a shot went off and struck the serviceman's mother in the leg.

    If you prefer your gun fails sickening, a 2 year old near Lake Palestine, Texas shot and killed himself yesterday with a 9mm handgun.

    Obama to name ex-Bush aide to head FBI (none / 0) (#16)
    by MO Blue on Thu May 30, 2013 at 09:27:03 AM EST
    WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Barack Obama is prepared to nominate James Comey, a former Bush administration official with bipartisan credentials, as the next FBI director. In a possible warning sign, the top Republican on the Senate committee that would review the nomination said Comey would face questions about his ties to Wall Street.

    Three people with knowledge of the selection said Wednesday that Obama planned to nominate Comey, who was the No. 2 official at the Justice Department under President George W. Bush. Comey was general counsel to Connecticut-based hedge fund Bridgewater Associates from 2010 until earlier this year and now lectures at Columbia Law School. link

    And many Republicans dislike him (none / 0) (#17)
    by CoralGables on Thu May 30, 2013 at 09:41:05 AM EST
    According to a source talking about the Valerie Plame investigation and the indictment of Scooter Libby...
    Dick Cheney would call in every chit he has to torpedo Jim Comey.

    Question may be who can call in (none / 0) (#19)
    by MO Blue on Thu May 30, 2013 at 09:57:37 AM EST
    more chits - Cheney or Wall St.

    The White House may hope that Comey's Republican background will help him through Senate confirmation at a time when some of Obama's nominees have been facing tough battles. But Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley, the top Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, indicated Comey's confirmation hearing would raise questions about the Obama administration's investigations of Wall Street.

    Grassley said in a statement late Wednesday he had not heard from the White House about Comey's nomination but said Comey possessed a lot of important experience on national security issues.

    "But, if he's nominated, he would have to answer questions about his recent work in the hedge fund industry," Grassley said. "The administration's efforts to criminally prosecute Wall Street for its part in the economic downturn have been abysmal, and his agency would have to help build the case against some of his colleagues."

    Now that's some serious BS (none / 0) (#31)
    by CoralGables on Thu May 30, 2013 at 11:44:14 AM EST
    coming from Grassley. If he uses that argument the entire GOP would be behind the nomination.

    What he really means is, Obama likes him we must block him.


    Ditto on the Libya Vote... (none / 0) (#56)
    by ScottW714 on Thu May 30, 2013 at 03:39:17 PM EST
    ...what kind of republican votes against helping the people who wanted to remove Gaddafi, a serious thorn in their most cherished idols side.

    Obama could be playing these clowns so easily.


    Let's all drink... (none / 0) (#23)
    by kdog on Thu May 30, 2013 at 10:12:01 AM EST
    to the Death of a Clown.

    Dave Davies was a real treat last night.  He is a little worse for the wear and tear after his stroke, and his voice was pretty shot after gigging a few nights straight, but it's still got soul & feeling, and the crowd was happy to pitch in!  Dave was never known for his singing, but for his revolutionary guitar work...of which he showed flashes of his brilliance.  He was in great spirits and seemed moved by the audience's adulation.  

    Took a lot of requests but paid my howling for Wicked Anabella no mind...but he did give us Strangers, such a beautiful song.

    Next stop Mountain Jam! Choo-Choo!

    Best Xmas Song Eva... (none / 0) (#34)
    by ScottW714 on Thu May 30, 2013 at 12:35:15 PM EST
    Father Christmas
    Father Christmas, give us some money
    Don't mess around with those silly toys.
    Well beat you up if you don't hand it over
    We want your bread so don't make us annoyed
    Give all the toys to the little rich boys

    Huge fan of the Kinks, not sure about Dave, but Ray was one of the guys that really seemed to encompass teenage angst in his songs.

    Houston's most infamous dive bar is called Lolas.


    I concur... (5.00 / 1) (#39)
    by kdog on Thu May 30, 2013 at 12:59:55 PM EST
    best Christmas song ever, hands down.  

    The Kinks have never gotten their due...Ray Davies is as great as song writers come, and Dave changed the rock-n-roll world with his little green amp. Records like Village Green Preservation Society, Muswell Hillbillies, Lola vs. Powerman, and Low Budget are all desert island discs in my book, and thats just to name a few.


    I feel so lucky, music-wise, to have (5.00 / 2) (#46)
    by caseyOR on Thu May 30, 2013 at 02:39:25 PM EST
    come of age when I did. While we have certainly seen good music since that time, nothing compares to the 1960s and 1970s, that period often referred to simply as "The Sixties."

    There was so much great music bubbling up and in so many different genres. Rock and folk and pop, it was a veritable feast of music.

    Just a small list of the music I listened to in high school and college: the Beatles (together and individually), Bob Dylan, the Band, the Who, the Kinks, the Animals, Joan Baez, Otis Redding, Roy Orbison, the Rolling Stones, the Drifters, the Shirelles, Aretha, Smokey Robinson, The Four Tops, The Temptations, Sam Cooke, Marvin Gaye, Crosby and Stills and Nash and Young, and Neil Young by himself, Joni Mitchell, Carole King, James Taylor, Roberta Flack (most memorable concert ever for me), B.B. King, Muddy Waters, Etta James, Cream, the Zombies, The Four Seasons, The Beach Boys, the Yardbirds, Led Zeppelin.

    There is no other musical era that tops The Sixties. And, you know, I miss really good FM radio. FM radio with live DJs who would play an entire side of an album, or the whole album, in one go. And it was over-the-air, so it was free if you had a radio.

    It was a helluva time to me a lover of music.


    True... (5.00 / 1) (#54)
    by ScottW714 on Thu May 30, 2013 at 03:28:36 PM EST
    ...but the portability of music makes this generation a pretty damn good one.  There is literally no place music can not be taken to, work, planes, underwater, you name it, it's there.  I mean seriously, even the CD revolutionized how music was listened to.

    I also really like bands being able to skip the entire industry and put music out to the masses without many funds.

    I have a lot of vinyl, but it's so rare that I actually listen to it, the work and the care that goes into listening to an album just can not compete with grabbing my phone and selecting a playlist and having it come through my stereo, it's revolutionary.

    And while we are flooded with endless crap, there are always some damn great bands out there and there is nothing like moment you hear a song that you just know is like nothing else and just pulls you in and makes life so much grander.

    And while I love the music you listed, many of those bands did a lot more work post 69, so I would add at least the fist half of the 70's, maybe even the entire decade.

    And coming of Age in the 80's wasn't that bad.  A lot of crap, but damn there was some real choice music, stuff I hear all the time in movies that takes me back.  funny thing is lot of it I hated then, but now I really like it, now that's it's not being played 50 times a day on MTV.  Did I mention MTV, that was at the time pretty damn revolutionary and for a good decade they played damn good music, still do, but only on MTV-U.


    You're right about the '70s. I included the '70s. (5.00 / 2) (#57)
    by caseyOR on Thu May 30, 2013 at 03:39:47 PM EST
    For whatever reason, when either politics or music is the topic, that period ( the'60s and '70s) often gets lumped together as The Sixties.

    And, hey, nothing beats the convenience of today's portable music players. Still, the sound is not nearly as good as you get with vinyl. It seems that each tech generation removed from vinyl, cassette then cd then digital (iPod), the lower the quality of the sound.

    Of course, who is going to take a turntable to the gym or on their morning run?  And queuing up the music for a party? Once again, the iPod playlist beats having to mind the turntable.

    It's a trade-off, convenience or quality? I think we can agree, though, that live music tops every other music delivery system.


    Yes... (none / 0) (#59)
    by ScottW714 on Thu May 30, 2013 at 03:53:37 PM EST
    ...and that the music you listed a whole beats any era since.  Great bands pop-up, but as an industry it's never been better than what you listed.

    My phone, if you can believe it, has Beats audio.  I did some experimenting between bit rates on music downloaded and that Beats is no joke.  It's hard to compare vinyl on home speakers to the phone and buds, but I can say, it's the best sounding set-up I have had on a portable devise.


    Yup. I Melt With You by Modern English (none / 0) (#58)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu May 30, 2013 at 03:40:54 PM EST
    on the Valley Girls soundtrack takes me back every time.

    Love the Kinks. They were an excellent (none / 0) (#41)
    by caseyOR on Thu May 30, 2013 at 02:02:27 PM EST
    I highly recommend... (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by kdog on Thu May 30, 2013 at 02:18:17 PM EST
    Ray Davies autobiography "X-Ray", it is written in the most interesting way.  The setting is a dystopian future, and the narrator is a young writer sent by "The Corporation" that rules the world to interview Ray Davies, who is then a very old hermit holed up in the remains of Konk Studios.  Very cleverly done, a novel and an autobiography all rolled into one.  

    Thanks. I'll check it out. (5.00 / 1) (#43)
    by caseyOR on Thu May 30, 2013 at 02:20:11 PM EST
    Don't know why I didn't know about this book, but I didn't.

    Funny... (none / 0) (#45)
    by ScottW714 on Thu May 30, 2013 at 02:37:34 PM EST
    ...I went to Amazon to check it out and it's official title is 'X-Ray: The Unauthorized Autobiography' by Ray Davies.

    I really like the Kinks, they were not nearly a smooth as the Stones, more legible than the Sex Pistols, softer than Zeppelin, and not nearly as deep as Pink Floyd.  

    They had that 'lonesome poor kid to struggling musician fighting and mostly losing endless demons', music that I love to the core.  The Black Lips remind me of the Kinks.


    My all-time favorite Kinks song is ... (none / 0) (#51)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu May 30, 2013 at 03:00:51 PM EST
    ... "Lola" -- but I've also got a real soft spot in my heart for "Celluloid Heroes," their 1972 homage to a now-passed generation of movie stars from Hollywood's so-called golden years, such as Greta Garbo and Bette Davis.

    Stop and frisk (none / 0) (#27)
    by jbindc on Thu May 30, 2013 at 10:44:37 AM EST
    There's more than one... (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by kdog on Thu May 30, 2013 at 10:51:46 AM EST
    Weiner in the race, to be sure.

    Well, I'll certainly (5.00 / 2) (#38)
    by Zorba on Thu May 30, 2013 at 12:40:14 PM EST
    be letting Daughter Zorba and her husband, who live in NYC, know about this.
    "Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right."

    New Rules (none / 0) (#29)
    by jbindc on Thu May 30, 2013 at 11:01:19 AM EST
    Regarding ACA and employer sponsored-health plans.
    The Obama administration issued a final rule on Wednesday that gives employers greater leeway to use employee wellness programs, with financial rewards and penalties for workers worth up to 50 percent of the premium as an incentive to exercise, quit smoking, lose weight, eat more healthful food and lower cholesterol and blood pressure.

    Tens of millions of workers could be affected. More than 90 percent of employers with 200 or more employees have programs to promote healthful behavior or prevent disease, the Labor Department says.

    The rule allows employers to reward or penalize employees who meet specific standards related to their health. Such "outcome-based wellness programs" could, for example, reward employees who do not use tobacco or who achieve a specific cholesterol level, weight or body mass index.

    However, an employer-sponsored health plan must provide "a reasonable alternative standard" so that employees can qualify for rewards if they fail to meet the initial standard.

    Lawyer: Zimmerman prosecutor withheld evidence (none / 0) (#37)
    by David in Cal on Thu May 30, 2013 at 12:39:44 PM EST
    What is the significance of this article?

    A court employee who retrieved photos and deleted text messages from Trayvon Martin's cellphone has been placed on administrative leave after an attorney testified that prosecutors didn't properly turn over the evidence to the defense, an attorney said Wednesday.

    Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/05/29/3422519/lawyer-zimmerman-prosecutor-withheld.html#storylink=cp y

    Thanks again Nazi's (none / 0) (#48)
    by Slado on Thu May 30, 2013 at 02:47:28 PM EST
    Something else we can blame them for.


    Didn't know this.

    We should call WWII... (5.00 / 1) (#62)
    by kdog on Fri May 31, 2013 at 09:55:11 AM EST
    the Speed War...the Axis and the Allies were all getting hopped up on speed;)

    I blame cocaine prohibition for the meth problem more than anything...when prohibition drove the price of popular cocaine sky high, the market looked for cheaper alternatives that could be produced domestically...voila, we have meth, a far more harmful & nasty drug.


    I Wouldn't Go That Far... (none / 0) (#64)
    by ScottW714 on Fri May 31, 2013 at 02:18:24 PM EST
    ...they use it all kinds of cold medications, variants are used to help a lot of kids and adults, it has a beneficial uses, but like nearly all drugs, the method of ingestion usually dictates how the bad the users get wrapped up in it.

    Snorting, smoking, and nearly nay substance is far worse that swallowing it.

    I believe we can thank the CIA for LSD, maybe not inventing it, but surely they propagated it's use.  they of course did a lot of testing on unsuspecting people is 1000x worse than giving soldiers speed, IMO.  But when used in a normal dosage, by folks who actually want to use it, it's not nearly as dangerous.


    I can't speak (5.00 / 1) (#78)
    by NYShooter on Sun Jun 02, 2013 at 06:40:51 PM EST
    to the misuse of LSD by the CIA, but, I do know a little something about the promising research that was being done on it by the medical profession prior to the government drug enforcement agencies getting involved.

    I've spoken here before about my father's involvement in helping American POW'S assimilate into normal society after having gone through the horrific experience of communist prison camps, especially North Korean camps. Pop was a psychiatrist, and a registered expert in things like the brainwashing techniques our soldiers were exposed to. One particular assignment he worked on that I remember had to do with the POW  bodies we the recovered where the autopsies showed no reason for their deaths. Something the North Koreans did affected the soldiers autonomous systems in such a way that they simply "gave up" the will to live.

    My dad was working on this perplexing problem, and LSD was an exciting breakthrough in getting into that part of a soldiers brain activity and all the doctors thought they were very close to understanding the wonderful therapeutic uses LSD could be used for.

    Then came Timothy Leary, the DEA & news media got involved, and they reclassified LSD as a controlled substance. Anyway, I don't know all the politics that was involved, but, all I know is that all the publicity effectively killed a very promising program. My father was furious with our government as he and his team felt that the health of our returning soldiers were being sacrificed for political reasons.    


    Not knockin it really... (none / 0) (#65)
    by kdog on Fri May 31, 2013 at 02:34:57 PM EST
    whatever gets you through the night, or through the war.

    Just saying we might not have the meth problem we have today if not for cocaine prohibition, and if not for both we could still get those good cold meds over the counter instead of the bum sh*t they subbed to ward off the cookers from buying their ingredients at CVS.


    Wisconsin Appeals Court (none / 0) (#52)
    by jbindc on Thu May 30, 2013 at 03:01:39 PM EST
    SITE VIOLATOR!!! (none / 0) (#92)
    by caseyOR on Mon Jun 03, 2013 at 01:48:19 PM EST