Trump Debate Performance: Fat-Shaming, Sniffling, and Outright False Statements

Devastating to Trump. On Twitter last night, Alicia Machado thanked Hillary for the shout-out during the debate. Here's Alicia telling her story in May, 2016:

Another interview the same month is here. [More....]

Mother Jones reported about this 10 days ago, with links to some news articles at the time. Also, Trump wrote in his book, The Art of the Comeback:

“The [1997 Miss Universe] pageant in Miami Beach, my first as owner, was a huge success. We’d sold out the house; it was a mob scene. From my position offstage, I was able to glance up to the greenroom occasionally. I could just see Alicia Machado, the current Miss Universe, sitting there plumply. God, what problems I had with this woman. First, she wins. Second, she gains fifty pounds. Third, I urge the committee not to fire her. Fourth, I go to the gym with her, in a show of support. Final act: She trashes me in The Washington Post — after I stood by her the entire time. What’s wrong with this picture? Anyway, the best part about the evening was the knowledge that next year, she would no longer be Miss Universe.” (“Trump: The Art of the Comeback”)

To be fair, Trump didn't deny calling her "Miss Piggy" or "Miss Housekeeping." He just asked Hillary three times where she found that.

Even the hackers are upset that he fat-shamed them by saying they weighed 400 pounds and did their hacking from bed. (And what, by the way, is "the cyber"?)

And yes, he did tell NBC News in 2004 that pregnancy is an inconvenience to employers.

Here's his tweet on global warming:

The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.

As mentioned earlier, he told Howard Stern he supported the war in Iraq in September, 2002. You can listen here. Buzzfeed reports it was 17 months before Trump came out against the war in Iraq.

The only possible explanations for his denials tonight that I can think of are (1) he's lying or (2) he has Alzheimer's. Either way, he shouldn't be President.

Check out the #TrumpSniffle. After the debate, Trump said his microphone was defective. Is there any evidence he took illegal substances? No. He may have had a cold or allergies and took too much sudafed or benedryl. He did drink a lot of water and seemed to have a dry mouth. But don't blame cocaine: my cocaine-using clients are more coherent and less rude (they don't interrupt others like he does.)

Another funny meme from last night: Where Was Lester Holt?

Also: Buzzfeed's Fact Check; Trump's Incompetence a Slap in the Face to His Supporters. From Daily Beast, Hillary Clinton Goes the Distance as Donald Trump Punches Himself Out

Here's the debate transcript. My favorite part:

But this is a man who has called women pigs, slobs and dogs, and someone who has said pregnancy is an inconvenience to employers, who has said...

TRUMP: I never said that.

CLINTON: .... women don’t deserve equal pay unless they do as good a job as men.

TRUMP: I didn’t say that.

CLINTON: And one of the worst things he said was about a woman in a beauty contest. He loves beauty contests, supporting them and hanging around them. And he called this woman “Miss Piggy.” Then he called her “Miss Housekeeping,” because she was Latina. Donald, she has a name.

TRUMP: Where did you find this? Where did you find this?

CLINTON: Her name is Alicia Machado.

TRUMP: Where did you find this?

CLINTON: And she has become a U.S. citizen, and you can bet...

TRUMP: Oh, really?

CLINTON: ... she’s going to vote this November.

How many times did Trump interrupt Hillary? The New York Times crunches the numbers and says 29.

Does any of this make Trump's uninformed supporters less likely to support him? No. But it may make them less committed to remembering to mail or drop off their ballots. As to the undecided, there probably aren't many of them left. And I'm sure tonight's debate performance didn't win him many female votes.

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    in another time and place, after a (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by cpinva on Tue Sep 27, 2016 at 08:16:19 AM EST
    "performance" like this, a senior member of the RNC would go to Mr. Trump's office, lay a .45, with one round in the chamber, on his desk and then leave, expecting Mr. Trump to do the honorable thing. his death would be reported as due to a heart attack, condolences to the family, etc. a state funeral would be held, he would be eulogized as a great man, a patriot, etc. the problem would be solved.

    not that I'm at all suggesting this, but if I were in charge of the RNC, I'd certainly be wishing he went for a hike on the Appalachian Trail....................

    I saw Josh Marshall say that Trump always sniffles (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by ruffian on Tue Sep 27, 2016 at 11:13:05 AM EST
    like that, but I sure have never noticed it. I think he must have something going on. It is fun to joke about coke use, but I suspect it is more mundane like a cold.

    I said in the other thread and will reiterate that I was really glad Clinton did not complain about all of the interruptions. As a viewer, it is annoying to watch the person take time to complain about being interrupted. Besides, Trump was digging his own hole, playing into every sexist stereotype by constantly interrupting the woman in the 'meeting'. Lots of us have been there.

    What Deborah Tannen called (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by Mr Natural on Tue Sep 27, 2016 at 11:33:34 AM EST
    "Lecturing behavior."

    (like this)


    Trump seems like the type... (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by kdog on Tue Sep 27, 2016 at 11:35:20 AM EST
    who could actually benefit from some drug use....when your brain is scrambled eggs sober, certain drugs might help unscramble it a little bit.

    Some psychedelic therapy might help with his empathy problem too.  But I'm no Dr. Oz;)


    In Trump's case.. (none / 0) (#8)
    by jondee on Tue Sep 27, 2016 at 11:52:41 AM EST
    it would require a peyote tea colonic administered with a high-pressure fire hose..

    The same treatment I prescribed for Ted Nugent awhile back.


    Like, maybe, say... (none / 0) (#9)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Sep 27, 2016 at 11:59:19 AM EST
    Adderal?  'Cause if the rumours suggesting that's the case, it didn't work very well last night.

    For real... (none / 0) (#10)
    by kdog on Tue Sep 27, 2016 at 12:04:13 PM EST
    Donald Trump could star in an after-school special on the debilitating effects of ADD...well, debilitating if you don't start with a small 14 million dollar loan and easily exploitable corporate bankruptcy laws.

    A different draw in the birth lottery and this f*cking guy would be panhandling and talking to himself hanging around Penn Station...I am convinced.


    The China Global Warming Tweet (none / 0) (#1)
    by smott on Tue Sep 27, 2016 at 07:29:53 AM EST
    Was deleted last night

    Yeah, but Hillary's (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Sep 27, 2016 at 07:41:19 AM EST
    campaign got a screen shot of it before they deleted it.

    Sounds like Team Clinton... (none / 0) (#7)
    by kdog on Tue Sep 27, 2016 at 11:38:45 AM EST
    is more on the "cyber" ball...LOL.

    Trump should put his cyber-genius 10 year old on the payroll as a campaign IT consultant, but he probably already has, as part of his election profiteering model.  Like a mafia "no show" job down at the docks kinda deal.