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Thursday Open Thread: Aspen Bound

I'm off to NORML's annual Aspen legal conference. My talk this year: "Getting High With Someone Who Dies: Defending Drug Users Charged With Complicity and Enhanced Penalties in Drug Overdose Cases." Here's the entire agenda, it's a privilege to be included with these impressive lawyers.

I'll be back Saturday night, after the annual Owl Farm picnic.

This is an open thread, all topics welcome.(I'll put up new open threads if this one fills up.)

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    save the whales (1.00 / 1) (#16)
    by gloriad on Thu May 28, 2015 at 09:44:06 PM EST
    obama is a goddamn nigger and his wife is a crack whore. not proud of america? why do you fucked up liberals hate america so much? what this country needs is a white president that will whip the black nigger's ass.

    Site violator (none / 0) (#36)
    by oculus on Thu May 28, 2015 at 11:04:47 PM EST
    I must be getting old (none / 0) (#1)
    by CoralGables on Thu May 28, 2015 at 04:48:33 PM EST
    because it's beginning to feel like the annual Owl Farm picnic comes up about four times a year.


    I am watching (none / 0) (#2)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu May 28, 2015 at 06:11:28 PM EST
    Bloodline right now on Netflix. I watched Frankie and Hope and does anybody have any suggestions about other Netflix original series?

    Hear good things (none / 0) (#3)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu May 28, 2015 at 06:59:31 PM EST
    about Marco Polo

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    okay. (none / 0) (#4)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu May 28, 2015 at 07:06:34 PM EST
    Thanks. I was also thinking about watching Narco I think it's called.


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    Orange/black starts again soon (none / 0) (#29)
    by nycstray on Thu May 28, 2015 at 10:15:25 PM EST
    The Dennis Hastert thing (none / 0) (#5)
    by christinep on Thu May 28, 2015 at 07:49:59 PM EST
    Other than having the day's big laugh, I was also offended ... remembering Hastert and all the other sanctimonious Repubs who voted to impeach President Clinton in 1997.  The offense heightened as I remembered the Congressman from Florida (Foley?) who, hypocritically, sought male pages for whatever almost routinely; the wide-stance Senator from Repub Idaho (Craig?) and his soliciting situation; and the Repub mayor of Spokane who trolled for boys on the Internet after taking a public posture against gays.

    Since Hastert has long put himself in the public sphere, I have little concern here with lambasting him on a number of levels.  Am I missing something?  Ah yes, I missed the latest iteration that appears to involve the Duggars and their self-righteous Repub supporter, Huckabee.  What is wrong with these people?  It really is more than "the lady doeth protest too much."  Foremost in my mind is the lessor of Hawthorne's "The Scarlet Letter" and the much later "father of political science" Harold Laswell with his observations about sex and the allure of political power.  The only real question I have about these examples at this point: Do these people really believe what they say when they preach about the evils of everyone else OR are they so far gone that they are oblivious to their far worse practices?

    As for Hastert:  Yes, I am making an assumption about the latest allegations in the indictment ... but, what is worth his 1.5M payments over years if it weren't blackmail & if it weren't at a level <in the reported high-school environment> that would be so scandalous as to comply with extortion or other demands over a period of years?  (BTW: Compared to the latest phony scandals re the Clintons pushed by the Repubs and their buddies in some press, these allegations--if anywhere near true--are what would really constitute a "scandal.")

    I'm guessing (none / 0) (#33)
    by Repack Rider on Thu May 28, 2015 at 10:51:49 PM EST
    ...there is an adult offspring who shares DNA with Mr. Hastert and a former HS senior.

    If I had to guess.  

    It has to be pretty freaking juicy to take down a guy who isn't even in the public eye any more.  We'll know soon enough.  You can't dangle this much bait without someone doing the math and blowing the whistle, if you know what I mean and I think you do.  

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    Prosecutors want more restrictions on Apperson (none / 0) (#6)
    by McBain on Thu May 28, 2015 at 07:55:50 PM EST
    http://tinyurl.com/pz24nk2

    They want Apperson to wear a GPS monitor.  They claim he was released from a mental hospital 3 weeks before he tried to shoot George Zimmerman.  They say GZ had his tinted window rolled up at the time of the shooting.  

    It will be interesting to see what Judge Nelson does.

    Hastert ! (none / 0) (#7)
    by FlJoe on Thu May 28, 2015 at 08:04:00 PM EST
    another rascally Republican.
    Individual A and defendant discussed past misconduct by defendant against Individual A that had occurred years earlier" and Hastert agreed to pay Individual A $3.5 million "in order to compensate for and conceal his prior misconduct against Individual A," the indictment says.
    Let the speculation begin!

    In the words of the great Republican word-smith, (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by leap on Thu May 28, 2015 at 08:28:13 PM EST
    "Great Republican" (none / 0) (#14)
    by CoralGables on Thu May 28, 2015 at 09:37:06 PM EST
    isn't that phrase obsolete now?

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    not if one is being (none / 0) (#15)
    by leap on Thu May 28, 2015 at 09:39:08 PM EST
    sarcastic. Shoulda put that in scare quotes, I guess.

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    How about we don't speculate (none / 0) (#8)
    by CoralGables on Thu May 28, 2015 at 08:23:55 PM EST
    and instead wait for the facts.

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    The (none / 0) (#10)
    by FlJoe on Thu May 28, 2015 at 08:48:22 PM EST
    talking heads already are, Anderson Cooper came right out and suggested illicit sex, but you are correct it would be irresponsible of us to speculate. Almost impossible not to though, human nature and all.

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    You are correct, of course, CG (none / 0) (#11)
    by christinep on Thu May 28, 2015 at 08:56:02 PM EST
    But, darn it, the irony and the "wouldn't you know" and all is surprising even in this day of non-surprises.  Before I sit back correctly and await the facts, all I can see in my nasty-minds-eye is what kind of issue of the categorical "moral turpitude" would cause one to pay that amount of $$$$ for that long.  Forgive me for leaping so soon....

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    The bigger crime (none / 0) (#13)
    by CoralGables on Thu May 28, 2015 at 09:33:36 PM EST
    would have been committed by the person getting paid. Technically, if what people here speculate is true, Hastert is the victim.

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    Or both are perpetrators (none / 0) (#26)
    by christinep on Thu May 28, 2015 at 10:03:36 PM EST
    Victim? (none / 0) (#37)
    by Repack Rider on Thu May 28, 2015 at 11:17:04 PM EST
    Technically, if what people here speculate is true, Hastert is the victim.

    Hastert is accused of money laundering and lying to the people who asked him about all this cash he seemed to need.  Is he a "victim" of his own acts?

    Whatever the scandal he needed to hold at bay, it must be pretty juicy, and there must be another "victim" somewhere.

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    You mean not act like (none / 0) (#28)
    by nycstray on Thu May 28, 2015 at 10:13:33 PM EST
    Republicans and their bullhorn media? What fun is that?! 😋

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    I'll be feeling NORML (none / 0) (#12)
    by Repack Rider on Thu May 28, 2015 at 09:04:07 PM EST
    ...in a few minutes.

    fuck you niggers (none / 0) (#17)
    by gloriad on Thu May 28, 2015 at 09:44:19 PM EST


    go to hell obama (none / 0) (#18)
    by gloriad on Thu May 28, 2015 at 09:44:33 PM EST


    i am a nigger, fuck my michelle (none / 0) (#19)
    by gloriad on Thu May 28, 2015 at 09:44:52 PM EST


    i agree (none / 0) (#22)
    by gloriad on Thu May 28, 2015 at 09:48:37 PM EST
    you are so right. god bless you.

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    obama should be ......a tree (none / 0) (#20)
    by gloriad on Thu May 28, 2015 at 09:45:37 PM EST


    there are a lot of black qualified to be president (none / 0) (#21)
    by gloriad on Thu May 28, 2015 at 09:47:19 PM EST
    but hopefully there will never be another nigger with his crack whore in the white house.

    re think that (none / 0) (#23)
    by gloriad on Thu May 28, 2015 at 09:51:53 PM EST
    who will clean the turds from the obama bowl? we need the obamas to do the shit work.

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    Wow (none / 0) (#24)
    by CoralGables on Thu May 28, 2015 at 09:54:00 PM EST
    Someone forgot to close the barn door.

    Barns don't stink as bad as gloriad (none / 0) (#27)
    by christinep on Thu May 28, 2015 at 10:07:28 PM EST
    Please (none / 0) (#35)
    by nycstray on Thu May 28, 2015 at 10:53:52 PM EST
    That's an insult to the gentle barn creatures!

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    i agree with al jabbo sharpton (none / 0) (#25)
    by gloriad on Thu May 28, 2015 at 09:55:23 PM EST
    we be sum fucked up niggers. we is stoopid. we wants reperrattiioonss, cause we spel so good. who cotton dat is? masser, why michelle scream 'masser you sho good, lawd'

    A SITE VIOLATOR if (none / 0) (#34)
    by caseyOR on Thu May 28, 2015 at 10:53:13 PM EST
    ever there was one.

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    Clean up in Aisle 7... (none / 0) (#30)
    by Anne on Thu May 28, 2015 at 10:21:18 PM EST


    That would be a sewage leak in aisle 7 (none / 0) (#31)
    by CoralGables on Thu May 28, 2015 at 10:25:33 PM EST
    On a happer note (none / 0) (#32)
    by CoralGables on Thu May 28, 2015 at 10:27:42 PM EST
    Donald Trump has penciled in June 16 for his jump in the pool 2016 announcement.