Friday Open Thread

Scotland voted to stay in the U.K. "With 31 of 32 constituencies declared, unionists had won 55 percent of the vote while separatists were on 45 percent."

The bill to arm and train "moderate" Syrian rebels has now passed in the Senate.

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    Sad but true Scotland lost the vote (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by fishcamp on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 06:16:59 AM EST
    but Cameron promises reform with taxes, welfare and more.  Unfortunately the English have made these very promises before and not kept them.  They even grumble in the pubs if you pay for a pint with a Scottish pound.  We gave them a scare and if the promises are not kept well, remember the film Braveheart.

    Reliably, (none / 0) (#2)
    by lentinel on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 06:23:22 AM EST
    Cameron, Obama and the Queen all came out against the movement for independence.

    Obama's reason was my favorite.
    He needs a "strong" partner...presumably for his military escapades.


    Yep (none / 0) (#4)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 07:54:51 AM EST
    people were saying last "see ya in a couple of years when the promises are not kept"

    It must have been a bit gratifying to see the Brits so panicked


    And no rioting (none / 0) (#7)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 08:09:30 AM EST
    the union jack@ffs must be disappointed

    Do you see this coming up for (none / 0) (#9)
    by MO Blue on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 08:21:11 AM EST
    another vote some time in the not too distant future?

    One thing (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by lentinel on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 06:32:53 AM EST
    that interested everyone was the size of voter registration, and the size of the turnout. Up near 90% .

    It made me think that people will turn out to vote if they can feel that their vote has an actual bearing on the quality of their lives.

    That is something I haven't felt in quite awhile - despite the exhortations of some people posting here whose opinions I respect, but cannot feel at this juncture.

    Example: Obama v/s McCain. What could be clearer?
    And yet, the fact that Obama actually campaigned for Joe Lieberman against Lamont in 2006 - a time when the entire country was revolted by the war in Iraq - turned my stomach to such a degree that I could not feel anything positive about him - no matter how fkd up McCain appeared to be.

    I suspect others may feel as put off as I - and that would have something to do with the dismal turnouts here in the US.

    Another positive note in the Scottish vote: they have enfranchised voters from the age of 16.

    I believe that should happen here too.
    16 and 17 year olds have a great stake in the policies of our government and should have the right to express themselves at the ballot box.

    That whole (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 08:26:06 AM EST
    Lieberman thing should have been a tip off to a lot of people that Obama was just saying what they wanted to hear.

    HAve to admit (none / 0) (#6)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 08:05:05 AM EST
    the Lieberman/Lamont thing really pi$$ed me off.  And the idea of LIEberman as mentor thing made me shudder.

    In a bit of a spot (none / 0) (#8)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 08:19:12 AM EST
    during the Lamont thing I called and emailed Mark Pryor and said if he backed LIEberman  (which he did) I would never vote for him again.   Looks like I may have to.

    Good to be Flexible (none / 0) (#11)
    by squeaky on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 08:26:26 AM EST
    Things change..

    Union Jacks (none / 0) (#5)
    by Uncle Chip on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 07:55:52 AM EST
    A lot of Union Jacks around the world are happy today.

    Hobby Lobby must be so proud (none / 0) (#12)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 08:36:05 AM EST
    Polygamous religious sect dodges subpoena with Hobby Lobby ruling

    This summer's Supreme Court ruling on Hobby Lobby is having a cascading effect of unintended consequences, this time potentially impacting a radical religious sect facing allegations of breaking child labor laws.

    A federal judge in Utah ruled last week that a member of a Mormon offshoot known as the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (FLDS) was exempted from testifying in a federal child labor investigation, claiming that sharing information on the inter-workings of the church violated his religious vows.

    Lieberman is a pious hypocrite (none / 0) (#13)
    by Mordiggian 88 on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 08:37:06 AM EST
    Who now is a lobbyist even though he had stated previously that he wouldn't be.  

    At least he still takes Saturdays off........."

    His sabbath is friom (none / 0) (#15)
    by MO Blue on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 08:47:46 AM EST
    Friday evening until Saturday evening.

    Other than that, I agree with you that he is a hypocrite playing the part of a pious person.


    So Help Me.... (none / 0) (#14)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 08:39:55 AM EST