Rudy Giuliani on Biden: Two-Faced As Usual

Rudy Giuliani today said Joe Biden is "too unbalanced" to be step into the role of President should that become necessary.

"I don't think he's nuts. I'm just saying I wonder if he's got the kind of balance - probably what I should have said is the balance to be president of the United States," Giuliani said. "This guy is like one gaffe after another, and he's a joke on late-night television."

Earlier this week he said Biden isn't too bright. He was referring to Biden's comment on Tuesday, when speaking to a predominantly African American group, that "Mitt Romney's regulatory policies would "put y'all back in chains."

In 2008, when Sarah Palin used the words "blood libel" in responding to media reports that she may have contributed to the Arizona shootings, which many regarded as anti-Semitic, he defended her. [More...]

Palin used it to criticize many in the media who said her political rhetoric may have contributed to the shootings. She later said her critics were taking issue with the phrasing in hopes of derailing her overall message.

Giuliani said "except for the use of the word, (she was) absolutely right on." "I mean it's a bad word to use, a bad connotation, going back to the whole history of anti-Semitism. This wasn't at that level," Giuliani said.

After Giuliani's remark on Biden today, Obama campaign deputy manager Stephanie Cutter responded:

"I would like to point back to (Guiliani's) glowing introduction of Sarah Palin during the 2008 convention," Cutter said on ABC. "So if he wants to criticize the capacity of the vice president to take hold of this country, he should go back and look at those remarks and whether he still believes that they're true."

What did Giuliani say about Palin at the RNC in 2008?

In choosing Governor Sarah Palin as his running mate, John McCain has chosen for the future. The other guy looked back. John looked forward.

Gov. Palin represents a new generation. She’s already one of the most successful governors in America and the most popular.

And she’s already had more executive experience than the entire Democratic ticket combined. She’s been a mayor. I love that.

I’m sorry — I’m sorry that Barack Obama feels that her hometown isn’t cosmopolitan enough. I’m sorry, Barack, that it’s not flashy enough. Maybe they cling to religion there.

Well — well, the first day — as far as I’m concerned, the first day she was mayor, she had more experience as an executive than — than Obama and Biden combined.

Then she became governor. She’s reduced taxes. She’s reduced government spending. She’s encouraged more energy exploration.

She’s been one of the most active governors — she’s been one of the most active governors in the country, and Alaska can be proud of having one of the best governors in the country.

She’s got an 80 percent approval rating. You never get that in New York City, wow.

As U.S. attorney, a former U.S. attorney, I’m very impressed the way she took on corruption in Alaska, including corruption in the Republican Party. This is a woman who has no fear. This is a woman who stands up for what’s right.

She — she — she is shaking up Alaska in a way that hasn’t happened in maybe ever. And with John McCain, with his independent spirit, with his being a maverick, with him and Sarah Palin, can you imagine how they’re going to shake up Washington?

Rudy Giuliani as a judge of balance or brightness? I don't think so.

Also, if you are going to criticize Joe Biden, there are plenty of policy reasons to do so, such as his role as architect of many of the most oppressive and punitive crime laws this country has enacted over the past 30 years while he was in the Senate. Of course an authoritarian like Giuliani can't do that, since his views on crime are even more distorted and reactionary than Biden's, so he resorts to personal attacks on his emotional stability and intelligence.

Giuliani's comments on Biden highlight how two-faced he is. And, like most attacks that resort to baseless claims about a candidate's emotional and mental state, they reek of desperation.

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    Really (5.00 / 4) (#1)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 01:50:42 PM EST
    who cares what Mr. 9/11 a noun and verb cares? What is with this stuff about Biden? I think they are looking for something to attack Biden on because Ryan has so many negatives and according to Gallup polling was a very unpopular pick among voters.

    It's this week's GOP marching orders (5.00 / 2) (#6)
    by shoephone on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 03:14:59 PM EST
    Attack Biden! Romney is clearly is trouble, and the tax-returns-issue-that-won't-go-away has coupled with the flip-flopping on ending Medicare for everyone 55 and younger clearly has the party spooked. Ryan is looking more and more like Romney's beard. I turned on Meet the Press for 30 seconds this morning only to hear David Gregory hawking the Biden comments as number one story of the week.

    The media playing footsie with their GOP brothers in arms. Same as it ever was.


    Todd Akin (5.00 / 2) (#9)
    by CoralGables on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 03:45:32 PM EST
    GOP Senate candidate from Missouri has put all other comments to shame today. He easily captures the Knuckle Dragger Prize

    Rape victims don't get pregnant. "If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down."


    I know some idiot said that in the past... (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by unitron on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 04:22:03 PM EST
    ...but is this a recent quote?

    Do they never learn?


    Very recent (none / 0) (#21)
    by CoralGables on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 06:36:48 PM EST
    as in

    broadcast this morning

    I'd sure like to see the complaining about Claire McCaskill come to an end now that we know this guy is the other option for Missouri.


    Seriously? (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by sj on Mon Aug 20, 2012 at 03:34:29 PM EST
    People should uncomplainingly accept a very, very bad just because there is something even worse?  No wonder the Dems are where they are.

    Not that it's really news to me...


    She is (none / 0) (#22)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 07:02:55 PM EST
    a big disappointment but she's not crazy.

    I think Todd is merely a contender (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by KeysDan on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 04:35:46 PM EST
    for the Knuckle Dragger Prize.  Maureen Dowd writes in today's column that Paul Ryan has been   "...pushing endless anti-abortion bills, like one undercutting an exemption from the ban on using federal money for abortions in the case of rape or incest, and narrowing the definition of rape to "forcible rape."  Dowd continues,"..  what on earth is non-forcible rape?  It's like saying nonlethal murder.  Why redefine acts of aggression against women as non-acts of aggression?"

    His State Is Charging Rape Victims... (5.00 / 1) (#35)
    by ScottW714 on Mon Aug 20, 2012 at 11:39:13 AM EST
    ...for the rape kits.

    In Wisconsin, when someone is raped, usually, the victim's health insurance company is billed for the cost of the rape kit. When a rape victim does not have health insurance, the State of Wisconsin has set up a Sexual Assault Forensic Exam Fund, which is funded by Wisconsin taxpayers, to pay for the costs of rape kits for victims who are uninsured. However, because of billing confusion and lack of education, some Wisconsin hospitals have billed uninsured victims for the cost of rape kits despite the availability of public funds to cover those costs.

    That is crazy, they aren't treating an injury, why is insurance being charged for costs that should be paid like any other criminal investigation costs ?  It's like sending me, or my insurance company, a bill for ballistics after I get shot.


    Wonkette's response to this creep's comment (none / 0) (#17)
    by shoephone on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 05:39:31 PM EST
    is right on the money.

    Now let's wait for someone in the news media to challenge him on it...and for someone in the Democratic leadership to make it into at least as big an outrage as the phony Biden "ya'll" outrage.

    Well, a girl can dream, can't she?


    It's quickly becoming big news (none / 0) (#27)
    by CoralGables on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 08:40:59 PM EST
    The Kansas City Star:
    "Akin: Pregnancy rare after `legitimate rape'"

    St Louis Post-Dispatch:
    "Akin's rape comment threatens to alter U.S. Sen. race"
    "Akin says 'legitimate' rape won't cause pregnancy"

    NY Times:
    "Candidate's Comments on Rape Draw Criticism"

    Washington Post:
    "`Legitimate rape' rarely results in pregnancy, McCaskill challenger says"

    Nate Silver suggests this comment could have staying power and lead to as much as a ten point swing. With Akin currently leading by 5 points according to the RCP average, Akin's Knuckle Dragerry may have just guaranteed the GOP doesn't take over the Senate.


    That's a good start (none / 0) (#33)
    by shoephone on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 10:00:46 PM EST
    But I really want to see the guy challenged in person, say in a televised senate debate, and have to answer the question before a live audience.

    How is it even possible that anyone (none / 0) (#28)
    by Anne on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 08:53:01 PM EST
    actually believes this nonsense?  Much less someone who's running for the Senate?

    I shudder to think this man might have children, sons or daughters he would teach this garbage to.

    Isn't there a cave this man should be calling home, or a rock he'd be more comfortable living under?



    If he does have children (none / 0) (#29)
    by christinep on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 09:05:09 PM EST
    he (Akin) isn't going to give them a school lunch either, since--in recent days--this Republican Senatorial candidate has stated his opposition as to school lunch programs & wants them terminated.

    Apparently, he (Akin) was heartily endorsed by another like-minded type, Paul Ryan.

    There is a difference between McCaskill and this Akin.  There is a difference between the parties.


    Yes, and that too memorable line of (none / 0) (#5)
    by KeysDan on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 03:13:32 PM EST
    Biden's on Rudy (there's only three things he mentions in a sentence, a noun, a verb, and 9/ll) must still smart.

    Defending Palin (1.50 / 2) (#10)
    by David in Cal on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 04:21:28 PM EST
    Palin's use of the term "blood libel" was reasonble, because she was being accused of somehow contributing to the Arizona shootings. And, the accusation was utterly preposterous, by the way. Liiberals should be embarassed by that accusation.

    No, you are wrong (5.00 / 2) (#32)
    by NYShooter on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 09:55:45 PM EST
    Palin was never accused of causing the Arizona shootings. She was accused of contributing to the toxic, violence prone atmosphere which has grown ever more prevalent since she, and her like minded agitator cohorts came upon the scene.

    Even insane people don't operate in a vacuum. So, when Palin, a National figure, further pollutes the air on the common stage we all must function in, we shouldn't be surprised when some of the actors carry out their roles in an "improv" fashion.

    All we need is for the Director to yell, "Lock `n load."


    Not Her Fault... (5.00 / 2) (#36)
    by ScottW714 on Mon Aug 20, 2012 at 11:47:29 AM EST
    ...but when you keep telling people the other side isn't American and they are trying turn the country into communist Russia and put them into internment camps because the love Nazi's... don't be shocked when a person close to the reality line takes their inflammatory words as truth.

    Giuliani (none / 0) (#2)
    by lentinel on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 02:13:53 PM EST
    is a mess. A self-righteous fool. A right-wing idiot. A demagogue.
    A dangerous man.

    But that doesn't mean that Biden is not a dangerous fool who is quite willing to trample on the rights of others. A man who reveals the depth of his shallowness almost every time he is let out of the box.

    I had not heard of Biden's having said to a predominantly African American group, that

    "Mitt Romney's regulatory policies would "put y'all back in chains."

    but I must say that it is one of the dumbest, most elitist and racist pieces of verbiage that I have seen coming out of this increasingly dreadful campaign.

    He was responding to a Republican call... (none / 0) (#12)
    by unitron on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 04:23:29 PM EST
    ...to "unchain Wall Street" or something equally stupid using the word unchained.

    But... (none / 0) (#19)
    by lentinel on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 06:09:39 PM EST
    he added the "y'all".



    palin lowered taxes? i think not. (none / 0) (#3)
    by cpinva on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 02:41:54 PM EST
    in fact, as gov. she raised taxes on the very energy companies she supposedly helped. she did this for socialist/communist reasons: to increase the royalty checks that all alaskan residents get, as their share of the profits from the oil extraction industry. guliani can't even get his basic facts correct.

    as for biden's comment, it was spot on. the more power corporations have, the more those of us not in the 1% will become enslaved by them. funny thing, his audience picked right up on that. maybe they're smarter than the entire republcan party.

    Two faces. (none / 0) (#4)
    by lentinel on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 03:05:55 PM EST
    Biden is the
    architect of many of the most oppressive and punitive crime laws this country has enacted over the past 30 years while he was in the Senate.

    Giuliani's ... views on crime are even more distorted and reactionary than Biden's, so he resorts to personal attacks on "Biden's emotional stability and intelligence.

    I don't think either of these guys are emotionally stable. And if they have intelligence, it is of a quality that is not of a very high order.

    The thing is, only one of these guys is running on a national ticket this year - thankfully - but regrettably it is on the democratic ticket.

    True, of these two, only Biden is running (none / 0) (#7)
    by KeysDan on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 03:23:50 PM EST
    on a national ticket--and Rudy is pretty much a political has-been left to hawking his wares.   However, the choice is between Biden and Ryan, whose social, economic and defense policies are grounded in what appears to be, at best,  a vestigial conscience.

    Yep. (none / 0) (#20)
    by lentinel on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 06:14:22 PM EST
    That's our choice.

    For the republicans, Ryan.
    For the democrats, Biden.

    So - it is up to us to decide which one of these gargoyles is more scary.


    From my perspective, (none / 0) (#23)
    by KeysDan on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 07:44:51 PM EST
    Biden has been vice president for almost four years and I am not too scared of him.  Ryan has been vice president for zero years, but the very prospect scares me.

    It's (none / 0) (#24)
    by lentinel on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 07:53:26 PM EST
    good that you're "not too scared" of Biden.

    Should make voting easier.


    So...you're satisfied with Ryan??? (1.00 / 1) (#30)
    by christinep on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 09:08:55 PM EST
    'Cause it is one or the other.  Like it or not.  With each passing day, we get closer to one or the other for those having issues with the decision-making process.

    <Yep, I couldn't resist.>


    Being unhappy with Biden doesn't translate (5.00 / 1) (#31)
    by Anne on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 09:19:53 PM EST
    to being satisfied with Ryan.

    Yes, we get that, for all intents and purposes, there are two choices on the ballot, but there's also one that isn't there: none of the above.

    And I can't speak for lentinel, but I, at least, will have to go with "not" if the choices are "like it or not."  I don't like it, and no one's going to make me.  So there.

    No question I'm not interested in the Neanderthal Party of Paul Ryan and Todd Akin. Biden, though?  He's no shining star of progressive thought and agenda, is he?  Not even close.  He's law and order and authoritarianism.  

    Not much of a choice, really.


    Well...there is a difference (none / 0) (#34)
    by christinep on Mon Aug 20, 2012 at 06:53:30 AM EST
    We both know that.  There is & has been a real difference with real effect in policy and in life.  I understand the point about not being taken-for-granted and about being given what some perceive to be a limited choice.  And, I also understand the important differences between the two parties on several issues that count to so many.  

    There may be a difference (5.00 / 1) (#38)
    by sj on Mon Aug 20, 2012 at 03:41:08 PM EST
    but these days it's a only a matter of degree IMO.  

    And that one little sentence had like six typos I had to correct.  ::sigh::


    Granted, it may just be degrees (none / 0) (#39)
    by christinep on Mon Aug 20, 2012 at 09:35:13 PM EST
    in a number of instances.  Yet, like the weather, those differences in degrees are felt & have real significance.

    BTW, just wanted to let you know, sj: The "1" is really childish. I will continue to state the obvious...whether you deal with it or not :)


    wev (none / 0) (#40)
    by sj on Mon Aug 20, 2012 at 11:23:26 PM EST
    vestigial... (none / 0) (#8)
    by fishcamp on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 03:45:17 PM EST
    great word Dan, especially when combined with conscience.  Vestigial:  forming a very small remnant of something that was once much larger or more noticeable.  Dan the Man.

    Check out Ryan in 2002 loving gubmint stimulus... (none / 0) (#13)
    by unitron on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 04:26:24 PM EST
    unitron, your links have to be in html format (none / 0) (#15)
    by Jeralyn on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 05:21:33 PM EST
    here, long ones skew the site and I have to delete your comment as I can't edit comments.

    Unitron, I'm posting (none / 0) (#16)
    by shoephone on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 05:34:27 PM EST
    your link from Huffpo on the Ryan/Bush stimulus for you so it doesn't go into the ether.

    But posting the links here in HTML is easy: Just copy your desired link from the other site, then click on the link icon above TL's commment box and paste in the link there. Voila.


    You mean... (none / 0) (#18)
    by unitron on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 05:59:37 PM EST
    ...like this?

    The same way I'd have done it by hand if I'd done it by hand?

    I just didn't want to make it look like I was hiding to where the link leads.

    Of course if it was long enough to wordwrap a time or 3 I'd have gone ahead and put anchor tags around it myself.

    But from here on out we'll do it your way, regardless of length.

    Like this other one (also on HuffPo) where Ryan was more practical than principled where the auto bailouts (and a GM plant in his district) were concerned.


    this method doesn't hide (none / 0) (#25)
    by DFLer on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 08:25:24 PM EST
     the link destination. At least on my system, all I have to do is mouse over the condensed link and Mozilla shows where it is going. I think that in IE...you have to make sure the "status bar" is on in "view"

    "I'm just saying I wonder ... (none / 0) (#26)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Aug 19, 2012 at 08:26:07 PM EST
    ... if he's got the kind of balance - probably what I should have said is the balance to be president of the United States," says THIS GUY.

    Sometimes, I'm wondering whether or not we're all trapped inside a Fellini film.