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Amnesty International has released its report on the global use of the death penalty in 2011. The full report is available here. The U.S. ranks 5th in the world for the number of executions. The only countries executing more people were China, Saudi Arabia, Iran and Iraq, Great company we're in.

MegaUpload news: Turns out, the same major studios behind the push to take MegaUpload down tried to make licensing deals with it and have MegaUpload host copyrighted content.

In Toulouse news, slain gunman Mohamed Merah will be flown to Algeria for burial. And footage from his recorded videos of his killings were mailed to Al Jazeera. Police don't know whether he mailed them the night before he was killed or an accomplice mailed them the day he was killed. Al Jazeera turned them over to police.

I'm about to watch The Voice and Smash. This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    The more I hear about MegaUpload (5.00 / 0) (#27)
    by sj on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 04:55:54 PM EST
    The more confused I get.  There has to be a big reason why all that effort was expended on what basically amounts to nothing.  Either he pi$$ed off some one important, or "they" are trying to set a precedent or something.  Because it seems like they were just a company like lots of other companies.

    And it makes me wonder if those companies actually made the push or agreed to take responsibility for making the push.  Not necessarily the same thing.  

    It confuses me, too (none / 0) (#29)
    by Zorba on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 05:51:51 PM EST
    In other copyright infringement cases, it's generally a civil case.  Many companies that have such infringement take it to civil court (same with patent infringements).  McDonalds, for instance, never seems to have a problem going after anyone who "misuses" their copyrighted names, characters, etc- in civil court.  All I can think of is that, indeed, he "pi$$ed off some one important."  TorrentFreak has some thoughts on this.

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    Apple is very (none / 0) (#30)
    by Wile ECoyote on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 08:13:53 AM EST
    also, is quick about going after someone.

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    Authors of books (none / 0) (#31)
    by Zorba on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 10:41:38 AM EST
    are always suing someone or being sued for plagiarism, as well.  I don't notice the feds going after these plagiarists.  I don't recall that the feds stormed George Harrison's mansions and confiscated his belongings when he was sued by Bright Tunes for allegedly plagiarizing "He's So Fine" to make "My Sweet Lord."  All this stuff played or plays out in court.  

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    Less slime in the world now? (none / 0) (#1)
    by Edger on Mon Mar 26, 2012 at 09:57:14 PM EST
    AP reported today that there is now less "pink slime" being produced for human consumption and fed to schoolkids, on the heels of the public outcry that began last month over connective tissue and other "less than edible" pieces of cows mashed and treated with ammonia gas to kill off bacteria producing a substance that was according to RawStory...

    ...nicknamed "pink slime" by a U.S. Dept. of Agriculture (USDA) scientists who blew the whistle once regulators in the Bush Sr. administration began allowing it in the human food supply. It was previously only considered suitable for products like dog food.

    A public outcry over its use began after the U.S. government was revealed to have purchased tons of the stuff for use in school lunches

    "Beef Products Inc. spokesman Craig Letch told AP that only one factory in the country, located in Dakota Dunes, South Dakota, is still producing the stuff. Three others, in Texas, Iowa and Kansas, have reportedly been shut down", says the RawStory article.

    We only need one factory producing this stuff, after all... :-/

    Interesting that it took (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by ruffian on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 08:08:43 AM EST
    the government buying the stuff for there to be an outcry against it. People have been buying it themselves for years in their fast food, prepared burgers, etc.  

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    I quit eating all meat years ago (none / 0) (#4)
    by Edger on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 09:21:04 AM EST
    But I do rememeber when we were young and invincible in our 20's cracking jokes and laughing about ground up nostrils, lips, earlobes, scrotums, sphincters etc, as we scarfed down quarter pounders with cheese washed down with unlimited quantities of beer.

    There are only about half of us left alive now...

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    Edger, don't know if we can blame (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by KeysDan on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 09:56:52 AM EST
    those scrotums too much as they are least likely to wind up in a quarter-pounder. That part of the bull is too valuable and is used for other purposes, such as handbags (a real romantic gift to keep in mind).  And,  chances of cow scrotum winding up in a burger, even less so. :)

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    Hah! (none / 0) (#10)
    by Edger on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 09:58:28 AM EST
    Eyebrows? ;-)

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    Everything but the beak... (none / 0) (#17)
    by fishcamp on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 11:17:35 AM EST
    Rocky Mountain Oysters. (none / 0) (#11)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 10:06:46 AM EST
    Being from Colorado (none / 0) (#13)
    by sj on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 10:44:35 AM EST
    I thought for sure your link would have reference to the "world famous" Bruce's Bar in Severence, CO.

    :)

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    I'm not allowed... (none / 0) (#19)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 11:29:28 AM EST
    in Weld County.  My knowledge of RMO's is limited to the stand at Coors by the Clocktower Bar.

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    Ach (none / 0) (#22)
    by sj on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 01:40:03 PM EST
    That's too bad.  :)

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    errmmm... snark? (none / 0) (#24)
    by sj on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 02:15:43 PM EST
    I'm not allowed... (none / 0) (#19)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 11:29:28 AM EST

    in Weld County.



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    Yes... (none / 0) (#25)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 03:14:26 PM EST
    but I don't have any desire to go to Weld County.  

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    Hey (none / 0) (#26)
    by sj on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 03:34:39 PM EST
    Bruce's Bar is all kinds of awesome.  Or it used to be.  And I say that as a former hippie going into a redneck/live country music/RMO serving/small town bar.  Every one I ever went with had a great time.

    You have to like to dance, though.

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    Ewww. (none / 0) (#20)
    by Edger on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 11:54:42 AM EST
    Ok, now look, that's about enough out of you this morning, ok? Jayzus! Heave. ;-)

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    You can live to 100... (none / 0) (#5)
    by kdog on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 09:32:09 AM EST
    on soy and rice cakes, but why the f8ck would you want to? ;)

    That being said, pink slime has no place in schools.  Real ground beef for the kids, being captive diners and all.

    Free individuals otoh can make up their own mind, all that should be required is an accurate listing of all the nasty bits and nasty chemicals on the label.  I hope I'm never that hard up, or that the cost of decent beef never gets that expensive...but if the only meat I can afford is pink slime I'm pretty sure I'm going there.  Sh*t I'm pretty sure I've been there!

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    Lol. (none / 0) (#7)
    by Edger on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 09:43:13 AM EST
    Everybody needs a dream I guess, eh? ;-)

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    Since I saw that movie Food Inc. (none / 0) (#6)
    by ruffian on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 09:42:22 AM EST
    a few years ago I think I have probably cut my meat intake by half, at least. Just remembering those scenes with the pink slime was enough to keep me away form fast food for a long time. I slip now and then but try to sick with the better places at least.

    I can't fault the schools too much when I see the parents feeding the kids stuff that is just as bad.

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    We avoid (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by Zorba on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 05:08:25 PM EST
    "fast food."  Most of our "meat intake" consists of venison hunted on our property (not by us, but we allow a neighbor to hunt here and he supplies us with a steady supply of venison), and fish caught by Mr. Zorba (and he's very careful about where he fishes).  We have neighbors, whose farms I am very familiar with, that we can get beef, lamb, and chicken from.  Always know your sources.  (And we also have a huge garden every year, and can and freeze and root-cellar a lot of our own produce.)  

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    Kind of disappointed in Smash (none / 0) (#3)
    by ruffian on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 08:12:32 AM EST
    Less impressed with Katherine McPhee as it goes along. And Angelica Huston seems cartoonish.

    Megan Hilty as Ivy is winning me over though. And I like the character of the director and the actor.

    I'll keep watching, but I was hoping it would be better.

    Another one from the local brain trust (none / 0) (#8)
    by ruffian on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 09:52:20 AM EST
    That's acutally nothing to joke about, (none / 0) (#12)
    by Anne on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 10:28:22 AM EST
    unless you would find it amusing to have the pilots of a plane you were on blinded by the beam from a laser pointer.

    In fact, don't take my word for it; check this out:  LaserPointerSafety.com

    Another problem is that the beam is much larger at long distances than you might think. Even though the laser projects a small, millimeter-sized dot close up, at longer distances the beam can be many inches across. When the beam hits the windscreen of a cockpit, or the bubble of a helicopter, imperfections in and on the glass spread the light out even more:

    Laser light in the pilot's eyes causes glare (inability to see past the light). At higher power levels, it can also cause temporary flashblindness and afterimages (like when you look at a bright camera flash, and cannot see for a many seconds afterwards). Since the beam can't be held completely steady on the cockpit, pilots experience one or more of these bright flashes:

    To make things even worse, a pilot being targeted may also be worried about eye damage and eye injuries, and the possibility of the laser being an aiming device on a weapon. A worried pilot is a distracted pilot -- not a good thing during critical flight phases such as landings, takeoffs and emergency maneuvers.

    For all these reasons -- and especially due to the distraction, glare and flashblindness effects -- you should NEVER point a laser towards an aircraft. (It is not even smart to aim directly at stars, since a slow-moving far-away aircraft could look like a star. Instead, if you are pointing out stars at night to others, circle the star as described on the Tips for outdoor use page.)

    There are pictures that illustrate the dangers.

    And there's some guy in Orlando who's been arrested like 20+ times for aiming lasers at planes coming from that airport.

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    Sorry if I was not clear (none / 0) (#14)
    by ruffian on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 10:50:57 AM EST
    I am not criticizing the arrest, but rather the idiot who thought it was a good idea to shine lasers in a pilot's eye.

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    Ohhhh...okay - sorry! (none / 0) (#15)
    by Anne on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 11:03:23 AM EST
    I thought it was a reaction to the arrest and/or the law, not to the brainiac playing with lasers...

    I do wonder about these people, though - too much time on their hands, no common sense?

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    No problem! (none / 0) (#16)
    by ruffian on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 11:07:44 AM EST
    It is amazing to me too. What are they thinking? Why would someone do such a thing? I can find understanding of anyone involved in the Martin case easier than I can understand this guy.

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    How about this one (none / 0) (#18)
    by CoralGables on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 11:19:09 AM EST
    I give up, again (5.00 / 0) (#21)
    by ruffian on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 01:02:55 PM EST
    I will never understand people.

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    Did he continue the attack or was it only one... (none / 0) (#23)
    by redwolf on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 01:49:41 PM EST
    punch?  Kind of important to determine if his life was in danger or not.  Assuming there was more than one punch I would have let this guy walk for the following reasons:
    1. He's old and thus easy to kill through nothing more than punches and kicks.  This makes his fear for his life legitimate.  A 22 attacking an old man is downright evil.
    2. It's his property.  A man's house is his castle and when someone response to a verbal warning to leave is potentially deadly violence then I think violence in turn is the proper response.

    On the other hand if it was only one punch then I don't think the shooting is justifiable, but the person killed has some culpability in creating the shooting in the first place.  Sentence was probably appropriate given his age and unlikeliness of hurting anyone else.  His gun rights are gone and no one benefits from putting a 69 year old man in jail. He should however loose in civil court and have to pay the family restitution.

    Hmm (none / 0) (#32)
    by Euro News Magazine on Wed Jun 20, 2012 at 04:33:48 AM EST