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Strip Searches of female visitors at Afghan jails

A cop goes undercover at a high school posing as a student for 8 months. Result: 12 kids, ages 15 to 19 are now busted on charges of distributing drugs within 1,000 feet of a school. 8 are juveniles.

Another reporter/news producer who doesn't want to do any research before spouting off. He asks:

Why was [Blagojevich] allowed to arrive at prison in Colorado on his own terms if he was sentenced in Illinois?

[More...]

How about because federal law and Bureau of Prisons allow defendants to voluntary surrender to the designated institution and judges commonly grant it to those who don't pose a flight risk and have been on bond throughout their case? It's a scoring factor on inmates' initial classification form which determines the security level of the facility they go to. Those granted voluntary surrenders get a three point advantage and can end up being designated to a lower security level prison. Geography has nothing to do with it.

It also costs a lot of money to transport an inmate from one area of the country to another on Con Air. (Justice Prisoner and Alien Transportation System (JPATS.) You don't get a direct flight, but usually end up in practical isolation in a transfer center like El Reno for a week. Here's the U.S. Marshal's directive.

The federal court may direct a prisoner to report, unescorted, by a specific date and time to an institution for the service of sentence. The BOP formally designates the institution for service of sentence. The USM is responsible for notifying BOP of a voluntary surrender commitment and for forwarding required commitment records to the receiving institutions. Authority for voluntary commitment is contained in 18 USC 3621 (b).

It's also discussed in 18 USC 3585.

This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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Former Rutgers Student Convicted in Webcam Case (5.00 / 1) (#1)
by ScottW714 on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 11:45:02 AM EST

Indian-born Dharun Ravi, 20, could face 10 years in prison when he's sentenced on May 21 and be deported after he's finished serving his time. He shook his head slightly after the guilty verdicts were read for all 15 counts, including bias intimidation, a hate crime, and invasion of privacy.

I always found it odd how much he hated the fact that his roommate was gay, but then his almost stalker like obsession with his love life didn't seem to be the acts of someone who was repulsed by it. More like a fascination.

Guilty of some forms of bias intimidation (5.00 / 2) (#4)
by Peter G on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 12:58:52 PM EST

but not guilty on most. Nevertheless, it is guilty on at least one theory for each count. Thus, a devastating loss for the defense, particularly considering the no-jail, probably-no-deportation deal the defendant turned down before trial. What devastating consequences the bad (but entirely developmentally predictable) decisions of 20-year-olds can have.


And the devasting consequences... (none / 0) (#8)
by kdog on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 02:43:54 PM EST

of a bad but entirely predictable criminal justice system.

Why mourn one tragedy when you can mourn two...our societal motto.

No sympathy for your Libertarian (5.00 / 1) (#23)
by observed on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 04:21:11 PM EST

nonsense today, K.
Punishment for crime is an essential part of human society. Unfit punishments, or punishments meted out according to class or rank, I object to.
That this disgusting piece of trash was convicted of a crime for his vermin-like behavior, I applaud.


Conviction is not... (5.00 / 2) (#24)
by kdog on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 04:31:35 PM EST

the tragedy I speak of, obviously the kid did a fellow human being very dirty...a possible 10 years in a cage is what I'm on about.

What a civilized response to uncivilized behavior...NOT! One life lost tragically to suicide, and another fixing to get flushed down the drain with maybe 10 years and off to India with you. Pardon me if I don't applaud misery piled on misery.


sorry (5.00 / 1) (#25)
by nyjets on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 04:34:23 PM EST

sorry but the defendent in question is getting exactly what he deserved. If he did not want to get punished, he should not have done what he did


No judge in the known universe (5.00 / 1) (#30)
by Peter G on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 05:14:19 PM EST

is giving this kid ten years. The prosecutors offered probation prior to trial. It might still be a probation case, even after a three-week trial. The Clementi parents wouldn't object, it seems.


I hope you're right... (none / 0) (#51)
by kdog on Sat Mar 17, 2012 at 06:48:31 AM EST

it just really saddens me that ten years is on the table. That it is codified as such.

All it takes is one hard-arse judge...


Let me try to explain what it means (none / 0) (#54)
by Peter G on Sat Mar 17, 2012 at 10:09:16 AM EST

when the press reports (let's assume accurately) that the defendant "faces" a statutory maximum term for a given offense of, let's say, ten years. It means that the legislature, when defining the crime, has established a maximum term that should be available to judges for use at sentencing in the worst imaginable case of this kind, for the defendant with the most aggravating personal history and circumstances (criminal record, bad motive, worst intended impact plus actual impact on the victim, etc.) and the fewest mitigating circumstances (mental issues, family issues, poverty, addiction, age, no prior record, good motive, little harm done, whatever). Assuming that the legislature has not prescribed some mandatory minimum term, then judges at sentencing have available to them, for the least aggravated case (in terms of the offense and offender characteristics, as just outlined), the option of probation. For the average case, the sentence will ordinarily be somewhere in between, with the selection of specific sentence by the judge sometimes guided, in many states, by sentencing guidelines promulgated by an expert commission that try to suggest how to weigh various combinations of positive and negative factors. The press never explains this, when they simply recite the maximum the defendant "faces," as if to imply that imposition of that sentence was somehow likely or normal. Typically, it isn't remotely likely, nor would imposition of a substantially more lenient sentence be somehow suspicious or indicative of any inappropriate decisionmaking on the judge's part.


: Thanks as always Pete.. (none / 0) (#64)
by kdog on Mon Mar 19, 2012 at 11:19:22 AM EST

for sharing in your expertise.
Seems to me judges are buckling to "tough on crime" pressure and handing out the max or near max in more cases than just the "worst imagineable".

As far as i can tell, you don't believe (none / 0) (#36)
by observed on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 05:44:14 PM EST

in any amount of prison time for any crime.
You would make the same complaint if it were 1 year.


Probably true (none / 0) (#46)
by gyrfalcon on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 11:02:27 PM EST

in kdog's case. But FWIW, I think it's also unduly harsh. I hope he gets more than probation, but 10 or 12 years for a prank gone horribly wrong is excessive, IMO, even a crummy prank like this.


: Well, how much time would a person (none / 0) (#49)
by observed on Sat Mar 17, 2012 at 01:06:10 AM EST

get for a KKK cross-burning at the home of a black family?
Seems like a reasonable point of comparison, with this crime being worse.

Not true ob... (none / 0) (#52)
by kdog on Sat Mar 17, 2012 at 06:55:19 AM EST

murder, rape, molestation...the really heinous directly violent sh*t. The repeat violent offenders that give us no other choice.

This kid who did a terrible thing can be dealt with in other ways...I hope the judge agrees at sentencing. Community service helping gay bullying victims sounds perfect. Not a cage with the strong possibility of rape. Forget the convict, what does that say about us?


"The world is divided by love and hate... (none / 0) (#43)
by Mr Natural on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 09:11:09 PM EST

To be on firm ground, one must know whom to love and whom to hate." - J. Goebbels

The prosecutor's role? To nurture and direct our hatreds, to teach us who we may correctly hate.

A lovely system.


What complete and utter hogwash (none / 0) (#53)
by jbindc on Sat Mar 17, 2012 at 09:14:55 AM EST

The proof is in the postings, jb. (none / 0) (#59)
by Mr Natural on Sun Mar 18, 2012 at 09:00:18 AM EST

: Still utter nonsense (none / 0) (#65)
by jbindc on Mon Mar 19, 2012 at 12:23:45 PM EST

Yes, that's all prosecutors are there to do. They lie awake nights thinking of how they can put the screws to everyone they comne into contact with.
Just as a very small minority of proscutors, judges and cops are overzealous, there are also a small minority of completely ridiculous defense attorneys who make the silliest arguments ("twinkie defense", anyone?) in defense of their clients. The state has a higher burden, as they absolutely should, before a person's liberty is taken away, so to paint a broad brush about ALL of them is the dumbest argument I've read here.

Your ire is better directed at (none / 0) (#56)
by oculus on Sat Mar 17, 2012 at 02:22:55 PM EST

state legislators.


Sex deprived male flies choose...the booze (5.00 / 1) (#2)
by Dadler on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 12:38:50 PM EST

Study connects unrequited lust with a craving for moonshine. (link) I can more than relate to their winged distress. Drink up, mates.

Have a great TGIF, my friends. And visit Dadler's Story Blog (link), where I've been posting my brilliant and incomparable, ahem, pieces of short fiction. Give a read, leave a comment, make my day.

GOP loses control of WI State Senate. (5.00 / 2) (#6)
by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 01:59:45 PM EST

Sen. Pam Galloway (R-Wausau) resigns her seat in the face of a recall election, effective at midnight tonight, leaving the State Senate with a 16-16 split:

Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel | March 16, 2012
State Sen. Galloway to resign, leaving Senate split - "State Sen. Pam Galloway, who faces a recall election this summer, is resigning from the Senate effective Saturday, leaving an even split between Republicans and Democrats. [...] Galloway submitted a letter Friday to the Senate saying her resignation would take effect at midnight, according to Assistant Chief Clerk Jeff Renk. Her departure comes at the end of the legislative session. But her leaving will change the makeup of committees, including ones that are active when the Legislature is out of session."

: Stay tuned. Something odd (5.00 / 3) (#7)
by Towanda on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 02:26:13 PM EST

about the GAB deciding that it can just take her off the recall ballot and hold the recall election, anyway. Statutes say otherwise -- that she is past the point of being off the ballot, and that a replacement requires the governor to call a special election. (Which could be the same date as the recall election but not for the GAB to do.)
By the way, unless Walker calls a special session -- which he well may do, of course -- this really has not much effect on legislation, since the current session is to end today (a marathon, now past 28 hours with no end in sight as Democrats are doing everything to delay crucial votes on the Walker agenda; good for them). And then there is no scheduled session until after the recalls, anyway.
But, of course, there are effects in other ways, which could be good for the recall efforts.
Bottom line is that it looks like the legislature will be up for grabs every couple of months for a while now, what with four recall (and/or special) elections next, and regular elections in November. Good. Let every legislator there be be answerable to the people at all times!

: More fun on weekly news dump day! (5.00 / 4) (#22)
by Towanda on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 04:18:34 PM EST

in Wisconsin, where we are rewarded for watching the news break every Friday afternoon for months now. (Seriously, the local blogs make it a pop-the-popcorn scheduled event.)
Prosser, the Walkerite state Supreme Court justice who won his election last year thanks to Waukesha clerk Kathy Nicklaus -- remember that? -- just got slapped with three ethics charges from the state judicial commission for slapping around a woman colleague on the court -- remember that, too?
He's only the third justice in state history to face ethics charges. The other two also were recent and still are on the court, Ziegler and Gableman, also ultra-conservatives, for not recusing in cases in which they were involved for financial compensation. That court is a wreck.

War Of Terror (5.00 / 2) (#50)
by john horse on Sat Mar 17, 2012 at 06:45:11 AM EST

When did our war on terror become our war of terror? Ask yourself this, if you were an Afghan who do you think are the terrorists? Any moment you or your family can be detained, renditioned, tortured, and/or killed by the foreign invaders who further demonstrate their disrespect towards your people by urinating on your dead fighters and burning the holy books of your religion. To borrow a phrase from the comic strip Pogo, "we have met the enemy and he is us."

: dancing in the streets (none / 0) (#58)
by diogenes on Sat Mar 17, 2012 at 08:13:13 PM EST

They were mighty happy in Kabul when we toppled the Taliban. We then stupidly supported the corrupt Karzai instead of doing as in Japan and Germany (where nationbuilding consisted of direct rule by us for a number of years).
Women, gays, and non Islamic fanatics didn't have it so good in the days of the Taliban. Look it up.

Reporters these days (none / 0) (#3)
by Edger on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 12:47:00 PM EST

are supposed to be just stenographers now, since real investigative reporting is only a relic of some past age, aren't they?

It looks like that CBS Denver reporter can't get either method right though. Where do they find these people?

21 Jump Street... (none / 0) (#5)
by kdog on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 01:42:06 PM EST

they know it was a tv show and not a how to guide right? Jesus H!

If I had a kid in that school I'd be raisning holy hell...I hope the narc wasn't packing heat in the halls, at the very least. Beyond the pale.

I Wonder How Many... (none / 0) (#9)
by ScottW714 on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 03:24:15 PM EST

... off campus deals where steered on campus by this clown. I had no idea kids could be charged with 'near school grounds offenses' when they attended the school, that seems crazy.

Boisterous Proclamation:

But more importantly, now the community can be rest assured there won't be any more kids doing drugs in the school...

Me, I'd rather have my kid smoking weed then locked up for it, surely one will ruin his life and the other will give him cotton mouth.

And what kind of a person can deceit kids for a living in hopes of arresting them.


A person of very low moral character... (none / 0) (#12)
by kdog on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 03:46:44 PM EST

thats who. I have no clue how a regular undercover narc looks in the mirror every night, betraying trust and lying for a living...never mind a narc preying on teenagers in school. It's child abuse.


: I May Not Agree With it... (none / 0) (#14)
by ScottW714 on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 03:54:42 PM EST

...but I understand the deception at the adult level, but for kids it's inexcusable.
One of my closest friends was set-up in junior high by his way older neighbor, like 30, to get out of a jam. And even at the time I though is was pathetic for an adult to set-up a kid, now I realize that disparity in thought is so different, it should be against the law.
A kid doesn't stand a chance against an adult, especially ones with badges, in regards to being set-up. And IMO these are set-ups, kids being manipulated by adults, adults who will surely be rewarded financially.

not just weed... (none / 0) (#44)
by diogenes on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 09:22:01 PM EST

"During the eight months, the undercover officer made several purchases of marijuana, cocaine, prescription drugs and other narcotics, Exeter police said."

Legalizing weed wouldn't help this one.


: Who says h.s. kids no longer have (none / 0) (#45)
by oculus on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 09:33:13 PM EST

jobs.

Broncos (none / 0) (#10)
by CoralGables on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 03:24:30 PM EST

offering Manning 5 years and $90 million, with a front loaded contract of possibly $30 million this year? Titans and 49ers willing to match? It could be a three way ebay bidding war at the wire.

Given the 49ers (none / 0) (#11)
by Zorba on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 03:45:48 PM EST

record last year, comparing them to the Titans and Broncos, it seems to me that if Manning would like to retire in a couple or three years with a Superbowl ring, his best bet would be the 49ers. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.


He's Already Got a Ring to Retire With (none / 0) (#16)
by ScottW714 on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 04:07:02 PM EST

The schedule is out, not dates, but opponents are out.

San Francisco 49ers
Home: Arizona Cardinals, St. Louis Rams, Seattle Seahawks, Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions, New York Giants, Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins
Away: Arizona Cardinals, St. Louis Rams, Seattle Seahawks, Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings, New Orleans Saints, New England Patriots, New York Jets

Denver Broncos
Home: Kansas City Chiefs, Oakland Raiders, San Diego Chargers, Cleveland Browns, Pittsburgh Steelers, Houston Texans, New Orleans Saints, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Away: Kansas City Chiefs, Oakland Raiders, San Diego Chargers, Baltimore Ravens, Cincinnati Bengals, New England Patriots, Atlanta Falcons, Carolina Panthers

Doesn't look like there is anyway he will play the Colts unless he goes to Tennessee.


: That doesn't mean (none / 0) (#27)
by Zorba on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 04:52:27 PM EST

that Peyton wouldn't like another ring before retiring . It all depends upon ego versus the money. Doesn't mean that he'll ever wind up with as many Superbowl victories as Terry Bradshaw or Joe Montana (he won't, and he knows it). But I do wonder if he would like the chance to at least have as many rings as his brother Eli. ;-)

I can't see what Peyton brings to the 49ers, (none / 0) (#17)
by caseyOR on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 04:07:57 PM EST

other than all the press that Peyton mailing a decision will bring.

Alex Smith had a great season last year and there is no reason to think he won't have a great season this year. I can't see Manning taking the job of QB #2 with a team. So, what would be the upside for the Niners?

I'd say the downside for the Broncos is the cold and snow. Isn't warm and balmy on Peyton's must-have list?

Tennessee is a sentimental choice. I could see him there. Too bad for Matt Hasselback.


Should read making a decision, (none / 0) (#18)
by caseyOR on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 04:08:38 PM EST

not mailing a decision. Manning never mails it in.


My choice, Tennessee (none / 0) (#37)
by NYShooter on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 07:57:26 PM EST

There was something about the looks on the faces of the local fans, prayers, candles, & posters in hand, lining the streets, welcoming Manning on his car ride from the airport.

Don't know what it means, good or bad, that he stayed only a short while in Nashville. Local stations playing it both ways.

Of course, my hope for Manning becoming a Titan has nothing to do with this NYShooter having just made Nashville his new home:)


Welcome Shooter (none / 0) (#38)
by jimakaPPJ on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 08:24:19 PM EST

Have you tried fried okra at dinner and grits for breakfast, yet?

Nashville was a fun place in my younger days, I hope you enjoy it!


Thank you, (5.00 / 1) (#39)
by NYShooter on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 08:34:37 PM EST

been here two weeks so far and I think I'm going to like it just fine. Of course I don't understand what they're talking about....my New York "accent?" My neighbors, when introducing me to other folks, say, "Shooter, this is so and so, go ahead, say something in New York."

lol, y'all


Just remember to add a "T" (5.00 / 1) (#55)
by jimakaPPJ on Sat Mar 17, 2012 at 12:59:49 PM EST

Like, "I've done this oncet or twicet."

And slide your "S' like, "Oncet upon a time I had a Ssslushie."


Hey, go slow with me (none / 0) (#57)
by NYShooter on Sat Mar 17, 2012 at 03:43:15 PM EST

I'm just getting the hang of how to order a Chik-fil-A, spicy chicken sandwich.

"You want a "side" with that?"

"What's a "side?" I dared ask.

The waitress was sweet as pie explaining it to me, but I think the little evil smile she was trying to hide said, "boy, they grow'm dumb up North?"

I'm get'n there.....slow, but sure:)


Naw... she wasn't dissing you (none / 0) (#60)
by jimakaPPJ on Sun Mar 18, 2012 at 11:21:57 AM EST

We love us some Yankees down here. After awhile they convert and we can't run'em off!

;-)

But what do they call the optional items you have with the main dish in a restaurant in NY?


: simple, (none / 0) (#61)
by NYShooter on Sun Mar 18, 2012 at 03:32:45 PM EST

"and what would you like with your pork chop, peas, carrots, corn?"
But, I was just told by a NY buddy that KFC is now using the term, "sides," with their finger, licken, chicken.
Did you know that "The Colonel" didn't start his business till he was 65? Gives us ole fogies some good hope for the future.

Sounds like he'd prefer to stay in the AFC. (none / 0) (#19)
by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 04:10:59 PM EST

Besides, he can't play his brother in the SB if they're both in the NFC.

Also too, his agent is Alex Smith's agent as well. I'd bet he's steering Peyton away from SF so he can get Alex re-signed there.


: Don't want to jinx it (none / 0) (#62)
by NYShooter on Sun Mar 18, 2012 at 03:38:47 PM EST

but I got a feeling Tennessee is where he'll play. Peyton and his wife both went to school here, vacation here, and have numerous ties here. The weather is perfect for him too. Also, the Titan's owner is playing this thing perfectly. Basically low key, but letting Manning know that "whatever Peyton wants, Peyton gets." Including a lifetime contract.

Get him signed Broncos.... (none / 0) (#13)
by kdog on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 03:49:19 PM EST

for MileHi Hawkeye's sake!

But since Jax signed Henne, who else will take Tebow off their hands?


: Learn to carry a clip-board... (none / 0) (#21)
by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 04:15:49 PM EST

or learn how to play safety/TE/H-Back/RB. Personally, I think Timmay could be a pretty good safety--in the Steve Atwater/John Lynch mold. It's probably the one position that he could rely more on his natural abilities and not on his brain (a big plus for him).

: Timmeh (none / 0) (#47)
by Amiss on Sat Mar 17, 2012 at 12:13:11 AM EST

has been out on the new Jag owners yacht for several days. He had remarked when he bought them he would have gone for Tebow.

Please Take It Mr Manning (none / 0) (#15)
by ScottW714 on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 04:00:03 PM EST

The AFC South has had Manning since day 1, he doesn't need to go to Tennessee.

Let Houston have more than one year of breathing room, please oh please, I'll be good I promise....

Coincidentally, the year Manning wasn't in the AFC South the Texans make it to the playoffs, and flop, but they still made it.


$90 Million is Ludicrous (none / 0) (#20)
by ScottW714 on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 04:12:54 PM EST

Does he even have 5 years left. Probably, but I doubt he has 5 nearly $18M seasons in him.


: Looks like (none / 0) (#26)
by CoralGables on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 04:50:35 PM EST

65 million of the 90 paid in the first two years. Put that alongside the 27 he got for not playing last year and he has a tidy nest egg to last for a dozen lifetimes.

That's how I'm cheering my son up (none / 0) (#29)
by Militarytracy on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 05:10:26 PM EST

Manning has his neck fused too. It isn't the end of the world, just different. Anything definitive that he can play again?


All over the news right now (none / 0) (#28)
by Militarytracy on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 05:06:01 PM EST

President Obama just got to Atlanta. God damn, not kidding a bit, Atlanta might be in the South but it loves President Obama.

Is that, in your opinion, bigger (none / 0) (#31)
by oculus on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 05:17:10 PM EST

news than the arrest of both Nick and George Clooney outside the Sudan Embassy today?


I did not know about this (5.00 / 2) (#32)
by Militarytracy on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 05:23:19 PM EST

Because I'm in Atlanta watching Atlanta news. My first time back at the hotel to shower in two days right now. I had to sneak in and avoid riding elevators with others cuz it isn't pretty.


Supportive thoughts fotr you (5.00 / 1) (#33)
by oculus on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 05:25:19 PM EST

And yours.


Now watching nightly news (5.00 / 1) (#35)
by Militarytracy on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 05:33:40 PM EST

Revealing the soldiers identity. It's very hard for me. My husband has also been chosen tp assist special ops on some missions....breaks my heart


Thanks oculus (none / 0) (#34)
by Militarytracy on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 05:29:15 PM EST

I went and read about George. You know I love that stuff. I admire him for adopting the problems in Sudan.


: I also (5.00 / 2) (#48)
by Amiss on Sat Mar 17, 2012 at 12:15:41 AM EST

admire the father-son duo. Really touched me.

That's why they call them weather chicks (none / 0) (#41)
by CoralGables on Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 08:53:41 PM EST

Meteorologist Kyle Hunter is suing CBS corporation and Los Angeles affiliates KCAL and KCBS for age and gender discrimination, claiming that stations are rejecting wisdom and experience in favor of pretty faces.

Hunter is being represented by lawyer Gloria Allred, who says the case may be the "first of its kind" because a man is claiming discrimination based on his age and gender.

Filing

Some of the quotes (none / 0) (#63)
by Chuck0 on Mon Mar 19, 2012 at 09:18:42 AM EST

from the high school bust are hilarious! "shocked, I tell you, we're all shocked!"

I graduated from high school in central California 35 years ago. Back then, I don't remember anyone doing coke, but there was plenty of LSD, Valium, Quaaludes and reefer being bought and sold on and off campus. Obviously not much has changed in 35 years. How's that "War On Drugs" working out for you, America?