Saturday College Football Open Thread

Today's picks (all 2 units):

Washington State +16 over UCLA, Mississippi State +15 over LSU, Boston College +19 over Notre Dame, Washington +1 over Utah, Boise State -29 over Hawaii, Oregon -28 over California, Kansas State -7 over TCU, South Carolina -14 over Arkansas, Texas A&M +14 over Alabama, Penn State +9 over Nebraska, Louisville -2 over Syracuse, Rutgers -17 over Army, Oklahoma -21 over Baylor, Northwestern +10 over Michigan, Texas Tech -26 over Kansas, Missouri +3 over Tennessee, Auburn +15 over Georgia, Arizona -29 over Colorado, Mississippi -3 over Vanderbilt, Miami (Florida) +1 over Virginia, Oklahoma State -10 over West Virginia, Stanford -4 over Oregon State, Indiana +7 over Wisconsin.

Open Thread.

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    Greetings from Guadalajara... (5.00 / 9) (#8)
    by kdog on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 01:29:40 PM EST
    How goes it kids?  Snake Blisken here, I´ve escaped from mother-f&ckin´ New York to much friendlier confines!  No gas lines, no uber-workstress...just love sweet love and adventure for the next week.

    All my peeps in the NY/NJ, hang in there.  To the TL crew, hope to be back mixing it up in the comments next week.  Vaya con dios!

    Have a great time, kdog. (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by caseyOR on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 03:46:18 PM EST
    Soak up the sun, sip the margaritas, revel in the company of your young lady. New York will still be there, in some form or other, when you get back.

    Glad to hear it kdog! (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by ruffian on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 04:38:01 PM EST
    Get some R&R and we'll look for you back here ready to rock it.

    BTD CFITP (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by CoralGables on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 08:40:00 AM EST
    Another big day for BTD moving back above .500 for the season as he finished the day at 13-7-3 and +12 units

    Season Record:
    (minus 14 units for the season due to a few large wager best bests going horribly wrong several weeks ago).

    When the sun is shining brightly, (none / 0) (#31)
    by NYShooter on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 02:03:46 PM EST
     and Indian Summer is in the Snow Belt, betting against "The Orange Crush" makes a "Broker's frown".... melt.

    I am very happy with the Ducks' win over (none / 0) (#35)
    by caseyOR on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 03:19:43 PM EST
    the Golden Bears. 59-17 is a nice margin of victory. :-)

    I am sad about Oregon State's loss to Stanford. Sean Mannion's knee injury has really thrown the Beavers off their game. :-(

    Now, the Ducks need to win out over both the Beavers and the Cardinal. Finally, to win the Pac-12 championship they need to defeat whoever wins the UCLA-USC game next week. My guys are kind of beat-up physically. Still,  I think they can do it.

    My current thinking has the national championship game being Oregon vs. Kansas State.


    The epic whale fail (none / 0) (#1)
    by Politalkix on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 11:08:55 AM EST
    Read and laugh at the party that touts business and executive competence.

    A name change has been processed (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by MO Blue on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 01:13:47 PM EST
    changing its name from Orca to the "The Beached Whale."

    Indeed. (none / 0) (#2)
    by DFLer on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 12:01:33 PM EST
    Additionally, as I understand it, the campaign's system took over/ pushed aside local control of these GOTV efforts. - from the party of big government is bad.

    Oh! The hubris!


    Yeah, and when you consider that Romney ran for (none / 0) (#4)
    by Angel on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 12:59:36 PM EST
    president for six years, you really have to wonder about his management and financial abilities.  What a dunce.  

    It would be shocking (none / 0) (#7)
    by lilburro on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 01:27:10 PM EST
    if it didn't make perfect sense.  Why wouldn't the party of "Make Money!" have consultants in its upper reaches that only wanted to...make money?  And then you have the Super PACs wasting 400 million (more or less).  As someone said on Facebook, "and you're telling me they can't pay a LITTLE BIT MORE in taxes???"

    3:21 2Q: Florida 3, La.-Lafayette 3. (none / 0) (#3)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 12:47:58 PM EST
    My oh my, but the Gators certainly seem to have their hands unexpectedly full this afternoon. The Ragin' Cajuns actually seem to believe they were invited to Gainesville to play a football game, and not merely be a serving of cupcakes. The longer Florida allows ULL to hang, the more the visitors might be tempted to think that they can steal this thing.

    The Gators always have their hands full (none / 0) (#9)
    by CoralGables on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 01:32:38 PM EST
    They have no offense.

    14:19 4Q: La.-Lafayette 17, Florida 13. (none / 0) (#10)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 02:03:50 PM EST
    You're not kidding! The Cajuns could take this one.

    5:13 4Q: La.-Lafayette 20, Florida 13. (none / 0) (#11)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 02:23:40 PM EST
    If the real No. 6 football team in the country plans to show up sometime today, this would be the optimal time to make their appearance. They can't even afford to give up a first down at this point.

    2:56 4Q: La.-Lafayette 20, Florida 13. (none / 0) (#12)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 02:28:56 PM EST
    Can the Cajun defense stuff the Gators one more time?

    3:21 2Q: Florida 26, La.-Lafayette 20. (none / 0) (#13)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 02:39:49 PM EST
    They showed up. Wow. The Gators can be very proud of those last three minutes. The first 57, not so much.

    Final: Florida 27, La.-Lafayette 20. (none / 0) (#14)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 02:42:22 PM EST
    ULL's now 0-36 against SEC teams. This one's gotta really hurt.

    they showed up to block a punt into the endzone (none / 0) (#24)
    by DFLer on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 08:31:29 PM EST
    with 2 seconds left. they should have lost. LA shoulda maybe run out the clock on a fourth down try.

    mushcamp (none / 0) (#44)
    by Amiss on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 01:47:28 AM EST
    Timed that time-out perfectly!

    kinda like the Pats (none / 0) (#46)
    by Amiss on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 02:02:07 AM EST
    did to the Bills today.
    Funny I only ever hear from you about the Gators when they
    aren't doing so well. Seems you have a mighty big grudge against them for not wanting to travel to Hawaii. Don't you think it's time to grow up and let it go Donald?

    Paula Broadwell's Husband write to NYTimes about (none / 0) (#6)
    by Dan the Man on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 01:19:14 PM EST
    Petraeus affair?

    In Huffington Post and letter to NYTimes:

    "My wife is having an affair with a government executive. His role is to manage a project whose progress is seen worldwide as a demonstration of American leadership. (This might seem hyperbolic, but it is not an exaggeration.) I have met with him on several occasions, and he has been gracious. (I doubt if he is aware of my knowledge.) I have watched the affair intensify over the last year, and I have also benefited from his generosity. He is engaged in work that I am passionate about and is absolutely the right person for the job. I strongly feel that exposing the affair will create a major distraction that would adversely impact the success of an important effort. My issue: Should I acknowledge this affair and finally force closure? Should I suffer in silence for the next year or two for a project I feel must succeed? Should I be true to my heart and walk away from the entire miserable situation and put the episode behind me"

    This is pointless speculation. (none / 0) (#15)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 03:13:11 PM EST
    There are thousands of government executives in D.C. and throughout the country. And honestly, so what if it was actually Scott Broadwell who wrote this letter last July? I liked columnist Chuck Klosterman's answer better:

    "The fact that you're willing to accept your wife's infidelity for some greater political good is beyond honorable. In fact, it's so over-the-top honorable that I'm not sure I believe your motives are real. Part of me wonders why you're even posing this question, particularly in a column that is printed in The New York Times. [...] I halfway suspect you're writing this letter because you want specific people to read this column and deduce who is involved and what's really going on behind closed doors (without actually addressing the conflict in person). That's not ethical, either." (Emphasis is mine.)

    Let's put it this way. If all this is true, and Scott Broadwell really was the anonymous author, then I'm not at all surprised that Paula would be stepping out on this silly little man who's clearly channeling his inner drama queen. You go, girl!

    Aloha. ;-D


    I have just (none / 0) (#17)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 04:19:37 PM EST
    had my fill of conservatives and their whining. They are attacking the majority of Americans in this country calling them all kinds of names and thinking that the UN has now taken over the country.

    Oh, I don't know (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by Zorba on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 05:25:22 PM EST
    I'm kind of enjoying witnessing all the Republican heads exploding.  Ah, schadenfreude.  I love it.   ;-)

    The gloom (5.00 / 1) (#30)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 01:04:55 PM EST
    and doom and it's the end of America just gets really tiresome.

    It's sad. (none / 0) (#39)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 05:33:04 PM EST
    I had a conference call yesterday with new nonprofit clients in Charlotte, NC. It was originally scheduled for Wednesday, but they begged off then, because they were still upset about the election results.

    I was very gracious, listened to them lament what happened, and said nothing deroguatory even though both men know full well where I stand politically. After they were done, I simply said that I was certain that the country will continue to endure like always, and that regardless of who won on Tuesday, we still had a lot of work to do if we're to bulid their organization's service capacity.

    But honestly, these giys are not stupid people, and I can't believe that someone that smart, business-wise, truly thought that Romney and the Republicans were going to romp. Hopefully, it sobered them up, like getting splashed harshly with a bucket of iced water with the ice cubes still in it. I sill have to work with them, regardless.



    Maybe they will wake up and see who has been (none / 0) (#43)
    by ruffian on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 06:02:15 PM EST
    lying to them and who has been telling the truth? I'm an optimist!

    I would enjoy it if some personal (none / 0) (#25)
    by ruffian on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 06:16:36 AM EST
    friends and family were not attacking me about it!

    On what basis are your (none / 0) (#26)
    by oculus on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 06:38:01 AM EST
    f & f attacking you?  

    Basically I'm a flippant fool (none / 0) (#32)
    by ruffian on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 03:10:24 PM EST
    who does not understand that the 'takers' are taking over America.

    Welcome to the Flippant Fool Club, ... (5.00 / 1) (#38)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 05:19:16 PM EST
    ... home to at least 51% of Americans.

    I suppose that some people think it's a shame that the majority of the country is so obviously out of step with the good citizens of Stepford. I don't.

    Don't ever apologize for standing up for what you believe to be right, I don't care who it is who's mad at you. You and I may well be flippant fools in someone else's fact-free parallel universe, but I happen to like sober reality and plan on remaining firmly frounded on planet Earth. How about you?



    Thanks Donald! Luckily I have a large family (5.00 / 1) (#40)
    by ruffian on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 05:57:15 PM EST
    with plenty of people that see it my way, so I did some phone calling yesterday for my fun gloating sessions!

    Not apologizing to anyone and I keep trying to inject some facts into the thicker skulls.

    And as everyone here knows I can't cure myself of the flippant.


    Ha. Note the time of my comment. I (none / 0) (#33)
    by oculus on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 03:13:52 PM EST
    thought your conservative f & f were on you re the General and his biographer/lover!

    LOL, not yet but I'm sure they will find a way (none / 0) (#41)
    by ruffian on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 05:58:13 PM EST
    to make it emblematic of Obama'a America.

    I'm sorry, ruffian (none / 0) (#36)
    by Zorba on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 04:16:03 PM EST
    that you have to suffer these idiots.  They just do not understand that the real "takers" in this country are the 1%.  
    I don't suppose it would help if you pointed out to them what Warren Buffett said:    
    I've had it so good in this world, you know. The odds were fifty-to-one against me born in the United States in 1930. I won the lottery the day I emerged from the womb by being in the United States instead of in some other country where my chances would have been way different.

        Imagine there are two identical twins in the womb, both equally bright and energetic. And the genie says to them, "One of you is going to be born in the United States, and one of you is going to be born in Bangladesh. And if you wind up in Bangladesh, you will pay no taxes. What percentage of your income would you bid to be the one this is born in the United States?" It says something about the fact that society has something to do with your fate and not just your innate qualities. The people who say, "I did it all myself," and think of themselves as Horatio Alger - believe me, they'd bid more to be in the United States than in Bangladesh. That's the Ovarian Lottery.

    Very good! (5.00 / 2) (#42)
    by ruffian on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 06:00:38 PM EST
    I might have at least shut one of them up for a while by showing a simple chart with the Federal budget. Pretty obvious from that where the real money goes - the national security state.

    It has been some week, hasn't it? (none / 0) (#19)
    by ruffian on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 04:42:44 PM EST
    I swear every righty I know has totally lost their marbles. Worse than when Obama was first elected. I think they really thought they had this one in the bag.

    Yes, (none / 0) (#20)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 05:04:22 PM EST
    they seemed to accept that Obama win in 2008 but can't accept this one. I think they thought that 2008 was just a freak thing and that they would take back the WH especially after 2010. A lot of their problem is that they only get their news from places like talk radio which has been lying to them. Unfortunately they believed all that so it has been pretty bad for them. The good thing is though after losing 4 presidential elections in the last 20 years they are finally realizing that they are not entitled to the Presidency.

    can you imagine the size (none / 0) (#45)
    by Amiss on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 01:53:53 AM EST
    of that bubble that they have been living in? It mustard been huge to enclose all of them.

    What some CEOs (none / 0) (#22)
    by Politalkix on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 05:43:19 PM EST
    can learn from Community Organizers on management and leadership link


    FINAL: Texas A&M 29, No. 1 Alabama 24. (none / 0) (#23)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Nov 10, 2012 at 07:16:59 PM EST
    Kansas State will take over the top spot if they beat TCU tonight. The Wildcats currently lead the Frogs, 10-0, with 3:19 in the first half.

    Takedowns of Brooks are always fun (none / 0) (#34)
    by ruffian on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 03:14:20 PM EST
    Josh Marshall gives him a whack.

    Really Brooks, the land of the hardworking founding fathers has been pretty solid blue, purple at worst,  for a long time.  The original settlers understood better than anyone that we are all in this together.

    JM did a good job with that (none / 0) (#37)
    by shoephone on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 05:10:15 PM EST
    With each new op-ed, Brooks proves himself to be sadly out of touch with this nation's realities.