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Fourth of July Open Thread

Who ever thought that on the 4th of July, the main emotion evoked in millions of Americans would be shame. Shame that our fellow citizens voted to elect the worst leader in the history of our country. I have used every negative adjective I know to describe this awful man. It hasn't changed a single mind. But, he is now losing his grip on voters at a rate that should be alarming to him. Instead of listening to voters, I believe he will ratchet up his tyrannical behavior until the United States is just a blip in the ocean, which some in Russia will claim to see from their bedroom window. 250 years is not old for a nation, and while Anderson Cooper may think we'll be back to normal in 50 years, I don't. I know we won't get there in my lifetime.

But instead of bellowing at the moon, I think we should all look forward, not 50 years, but to 2028. What traits should the leader of this country possess? On the last day of 2016, I wrote:

What feelings should an incoming President invoke in us? My answer is pride in our country, a sense of security, so that when we go to sleep at night we know the world will be there when we wake up, and feelings of trust that our nation's leader will steer the country along the right path, embracing principles of freedom, tolerance and opportunity for all, and act in ways that confirm to the world that the United States is a beacon of liberty, not authoritarianism.

Your turn. What traits should our next leader possess? And for another day, how do we protect ourselves from the clutches of future felonistic fraudsters clawing their way to the pinnacle of power?

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    One word (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 05, 2026 at 08:58:56 AM EST
    Accountability.  There has to be some accountability or our country will not survive.
    My 2 cents.

    I found this bit of gob smacking news yesterday.
    Makes you proud to be a Mercian

    A new Cato Institute poll found that only 53% of Americans could correctly identify the adoption of the Declaration of Independence as the historical event marked by July 4.
    And 46% said they did not know what the day commemorated, including 61% of Gen Z respondents



    If the Trump era has made one thing starkly apparent, it's the pervasive ignorance, widespread stupidity and dogmatic anti-intellectualism that have taken firm root amongst significant portions of our country's citizenry.

    To paraphrase the late Winston Churchill, I had always thought prior to 2016 that at the end of the day, one could always count upon Americans to do the right thing - once, of course, we've exhausted all other available options.

    We kept telling ourselves that we're supposed to be better than this. Well, we've certainly since laid THAT delusion to rest, haven't we?

    (Sigh!)

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    That Cato poll (none / 0) (#5)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Sun Jul 05, 2026 at 08:56:40 PM EST
    A new Cato Institute poll found that only 53% of Americans could correctly identify the adoption of the Declaration of Independence as the historical event marked by July 4.

    Public education is doing a heck of a job.

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    I don't think public education (5.00 / 2) (#10)
    by Chuck0 on Mon Jul 06, 2026 at 11:12:29 AM EST
    is to blame at all. I am the product of public education.

    Rather it the complete lack of interest in the history and ideals of this country. Gen Z and those that have followed were taught all this stuff in public school. They just don't care. They are more interested in some whack job "influencer" toldcthem to do. Or which Kardashian got laid last night. Or who attended Taylor Swifts nuptials.

    Don't blame the education system. Blame the times. Blame social media. Blame the complete lack of intellectual curiosity of Americans aged 25 to 45.

    Parent

    ... not Millenials and Gen. Z youngsters. It's us, their parents and grandparents, who've failed them. They didn't fail us. The so-called "Greatest Generation" of the World War II era begat two of the greediest and most self-absorbed generations in American history.

    Not all of us are to blame, obviously. But we were the Cassandras in our own Iliad, and there weren't enough of us to mitigate the detrimental effect our generations had upon those who'd succeed us. To the extent that our children and grandchildren don't care about civics, it's because we neglected to impress upon them its importance and to show and teach them otherwise. Instead, we elected the mediocre likes of George W. Bush and Donald Trump - and that's one hell of an example to have set for the kids.

    Aloha.

    Parent

    100% (none / 0) (#16)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Jul 06, 2026 at 05:18:57 PM EST
    The people I grew up with are some of the most selfish self centered people that exist. I credit my church and going to a liberal arts college with me not turning out that way. I was a Cassandra too but I might as well have been yelling into the void.

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    The poll quoted just (none / 0) (#18)
    by Chuck0 on Mon Jul 06, 2026 at 05:32:46 PM EST
    Americans. I'm tired of the right wing trope of blaming public education fir everything they don't like or disagree with.

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    It is the result (none / 0) (#19)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 06, 2026 at 06:36:05 PM EST
    of a culture that rejects and attacks expertise and knowledge.   Anti intellectualism.  Anti science. Anti history.

    Its about what kids are taught to value and accept  at home.

    I don't believe for a second that any child past the second grade has not learned what the 4th of f'ing July is.

    Parent

    It would be interesting (none / 0) (#6)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 05, 2026 at 09:15:15 PM EST
    to know what percentage of the respondents were home schooled

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    Probably about 6% give or take (none / 0) (#7)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Sun Jul 05, 2026 at 10:55:36 PM EST

    Per Copilot

    Current Estimates (2024-2025 school year)
    6.262% of K-12 students were homeschooled, representing about 3.4 million children.

    Independent research bodies (NHERI) report similar figures, also placing homeschooling at roughly 6% of the school‑age population.

    Parent

    Yeah (none / 0) (#9)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 06, 2026 at 09:50:38 AM EST
    What I meant was I wonder what percentage of the ones who got it wrong were home schooled

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    Welp (none / 0) (#8)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Jul 06, 2026 at 08:53:36 AM EST
    no child left behind is a miserable failure isn't it?

    Parent
    El Presidente has now busied himself by... (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by desertswine on Mon Jul 06, 2026 at 03:29:55 PM EST
    ruining the World Cup, like everything else he touches.  If the US wins the next contest against Belgium, the victory will certainly be a tainted one.

    We may get booted (none / 0) (#15)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 06, 2026 at 04:38:42 PM EST
    Nothing Can be Done Under Present Constitution (none / 0) (#1)
    by RickyJim on Sat Jul 04, 2026 at 10:09:07 PM EST
    And for another day, how do we protect ourselves from the clutches of future felonistic fraudsters clawing their way to the pinnacle of power?
    Trump, the Supreme Court and Congress have made it obvious to everybody what's wrong with the current document so it's conceivable we will get a new one.  I hope it happens by 2037, the 250th anniversary of the one George Washington predicted would last 20 years.

    There's nothing wrong with our Constitution. (none / 0) (#3)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Jul 05, 2026 at 03:54:08 PM EST
    What we very much do need is a new Supreme Court, one that truly respects and upholds the principle of stare decisis and doesn't have half its members casting all-too-predictable votes that are rooted in their neo-conservative political ideologies, rather than based upon the rule of law.

    On the nominally long-settled matter of birthright citizenship, four of the six right-wing SCOTUS justices took clear exception to the unambiguous wording of the Constitution's Amendment XIV, Section 1, and they made quite obvious their intent to strike it down at some point in the future, if once again given the opportunity.

    Honestly, Justice Alito's quasi-fascist dissent in Trump v. Barbara, a case that would've otherwise likely garnered a unanimous 9-0 decision just 35-40 years ago, should've set off alarm bells in legal circles across the country.

    Not only is the MAGA-curious Roberts Court wholly and uniquely unsuited for the harrowing and challenging times in which we're presently enmeshed, but John Roberts himself is the worst Supreme Court chief justice since Roger Taney (1777-1864). It was, after all, Taney's infamous Dred Scott decision (1857) that greased our country's rapid slide toward sectional upheaval and civil war.

    Indeed, it was Dred Scott that prompted the almost immediate postwar drafting, adoption and ratification of the 14th Amendment in the first place, in order to mute and negate Taney's egregious finding that our country's Black residents had no legal standing before the bar of justice because they could never become citizens of a white and God-fearing country such as ours.

    The answer, therefore, to our present predicament is NOT to pitch the Constitution aside, as though it were some obsolete and outdated relic. Rather, we need to rethink entirely the current composition of the U.S. Supreme Court.

    This would include our serious consideration of SCOTUS's expansion to thirteen members to correspond with our thirteen federal appellate courts, an accompanying member term limit of 10-20 years in length rather than a lifetime appointment, and specific criteria to encourage membership diversification, so that the High Court's future makeup properly reflects that of the country as a whole, rather than the colloquial and often noxious politics of the D.C. Beltway.

    Aloha.

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    Mitch McConnell... (none / 0) (#13)
    by desertswine on Mon Jul 06, 2026 at 03:37:39 PM EST
    Dead?  Or only nearly dead?

    Speaking of the ill or dead (none / 0) (#14)
    by Repack Rider on Mon Jul 06, 2026 at 04:07:18 PM EST
    It just so happens that your friend here is only MOSTLY dead. There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead there's usually only one thing you can do.

    Inigo Montoya: What's that?

    Miracle Max: Go through his clothes and look for loose change.

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    Sounds (none / 0) (#17)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Jul 06, 2026 at 05:22:16 PM EST
    Like Graham Platner is done. All I have to say is better now than October. Khanna has pulled his endorsement. This is the risk of running someone who has never been through the ringer before. I hope someone other than Mills is his replacement