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Big Tent Democrat and David Waldman debut Daily Kos Radio this morning on Sirius Left Channel 127 from 10 am ET to 1pm ET. Give a listen.

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    Never fails that voices never match up... (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by Dadler on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 09:54:32 AM EST
    ...to what you expect them to sound like.  

    Well, I imagine BTD (none / 0) (#4)
    by observed on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 10:15:13 AM EST
    to have a full voiced baritone without a strong regional accent. Close?


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    To hear his voice (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 11:29:20 AM EST
    Go here:

    Link

    Click on the first link below the video screen.  Click play and scroll about 20ish minutes in.

    Yes, I was curious one day.  Yes, I'm a stalker at heart.  Yes, I heart "teh Google" ;-).

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    Ack (none / 0) (#12)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 11:31:53 AM EST
    I don't know where I got the "20 minutes"...must have been on one of the videos.  Anyway, scroll thru any of the videos at the link and you'll eventually find him...;-).

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    Yeah, I imagined, that with a cool name (5.00 / 2) (#56)
    by Mr Natural on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 11:38:07 PM EST
    like Armando, that he'd sound like Ricardo Montalban, his accent a promise of exotica, his voice as supple as rich Corinthian leather.  lol.

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    Not at all (none / 0) (#8)
    by Dadler on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 10:57:56 AM EST
    At least not to me.  

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    Details yet remain, (5.00 / 4) (#2)
    by observed on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 10:04:17 AM EST
    but I think that within about 10 days, I will be reporting to TL from central Asia.


    should be the former. (none / 0) (#45)
    by observed on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 05:52:18 PM EST
    I am updating Borat.


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    No Sirius (5.00 / 0) (#3)
    by Stellaaa on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 10:05:36 AM EST
    Is there another place to listen?  

    I think (none / 0) (#10)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 11:24:40 AM EST
    BTD said you could sign up for a free trial?  Dunno.

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    Segue: "Fascistic measures." (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by oculus on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 10:40:03 AM EST
    Today I saw a beautiful Beaux Arts house. The Germans took it over and summoned local Norwegians for interrogation and "physical abuse."

    Well (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 11:08:49 AM EST
    my husband has sirius in his car but I'm sorry BTD as much as I'd like to listen, I just can't sit in that hot car today.

    I CAN quit you! (5.00 / 8) (#13)
    by Robot Porter on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 11:41:51 AM EST
    I just realized that a month ago I passed one year without smoking.  That anniversary slipped by without me noticing.

    I initially quit because of the price hikes in NYC last summer.  But I'm glad I did for my health as well.

    I haven't noticed any of the standard things.  Food DOESN'T taste any better.  Air DOESN'T smell any better.  I always had good skin. And I never had any breathing problems, and could run upstairs with ease.  So no change there.

    But in some subtle, hard to define way, I do feel more youthful.

    Good for you! (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by andgarden on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 11:43:37 AM EST
    And BTW, thank you for saying that the price hikes worked.

    I'm certain they will save lives.

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    In principle, I'm against ... (5.00 / 2) (#15)
    by Robot Porter on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 12:00:04 PM EST
    the tax hikes.  Because they're a form of regressive taxation.  

    But I can't deny that they gave me the push I needed to quit.  I looked at the number I would be spending on cigs a month, considered what else I could buy with that money, and I just couldn't justify the expense any more.

    I could afford it.  But I couldn't justify it.

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    I quit when Prop 10 (5.00 / 0) (#50)
    by Jane in CA on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 07:16:21 PM EST
    went into effect in January 1999.

    A 50 cent tax on cigarettes seemed outrageous to me. Agree that it was one of the better personal decisons I've made.

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    NY raised it by $1.60/pack last year (none / 0) (#51)
    by andgarden on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 07:23:31 PM EST
    I gather that a pack of cigarettes in NYC now goes for $11.

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    What? That's insane. (none / 0) (#52)
    by Anne on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 08:19:39 PM EST
    If I were still smoking at the rate I was when I quit - over 30 years ago - I'd be spending over $150 a week to smoke!

    Well, actually, I'd probably have had to quit when I got lung cancer or emphysema.  Or I'd be dead.

    I was as addicted as anyone (except maybe my brother, who has tried every method known, and still can't quit), and for me, it was cold turkey; "cutting down" was never an option - all I did was obsess about when I could have my next cigarette - it ruled my life.

    Have never regretted giving them up.


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    Did your list of friends change? (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 12:46:26 PM EST
    I never intended to leave my smoking friends, I would say that they left me.  I started solving more difficulties instead of smoking.  Smoking was a big crutch for me if something was troubling me, I could always have a cigarette and make everything just go away and never draw the line when lines needed drawing.

    It was strange too in that very suddenly many people who were more acquaintances and nonsmokers became close friends.  It wasn't a conscious effort, and that was really strange feeling to me how that happened.

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    I noticed that many of my smoker (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by easilydistracted on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 01:16:51 PM EST
    friends sort of wafted away (I know...that was bad). Primarily those at work, that shared smoke breaks. Oddly, I think some of them actually held a grudge. Lost my connection to the proverbial "grapevine" when I stopped the smoke breaks.  

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    Maybe (5.00 / 1) (#31)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 01:36:56 PM EST
    Maybe your quitting caused cognitive dissonance for them because they are likely in denial that smoking is really bad for them.  The only way to continue with the denial was to blame you, hold a grudge against you for your "bad" decision ;-).

    The doctor is in/out.  And my name isn't even Lucy!

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    Interesting ... (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by Robot Porter on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 01:19:17 PM EST
    I have lost some friends/colleagues in last year.  They weren't smokers.  But they were ultimately very negative people in my life.

    I wonder if the crutch of smoking allowed me to tolerate them?  And not smoking caused me to see them more clearly, and sensing that, they took a powder?

    I never connected this with quitting smoking.  But your comment makes me think there might be a correlation.  

    Either way:  Good riddance to bad rubbish.

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    Last cigarette for me -- three years ago. (5.00 / 3) (#20)
    by easilydistracted on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 12:50:55 PM EST
    Lost 68 lbs over 10 month span beginning two years ago. Started running. Now up to 4 to 5 miles four times weekly. The motivation: the economy.  Figured if I'm going to be working into my 80s, I'd better get in shape.

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    There is no better (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by CoralGables on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 01:10:18 PM EST
    stress reliever, or way to work through problems than running. After about 2 miles, as the breathing begins to regulate again, the cobwebs leave the brain cells and everything comes into focus.

    If you're doing this outside rather than on a treadmill it works even better (less chance of a misstep and the scenery changes). And for the record, if you ever want to kick back and say damn can't believe I did that... when the weather is nice and it's your best time of day for running, anyone that can regularly turn in a five miler can turn in a ten spot.

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    Spot on about the stress reliever. (none / 0) (#29)
    by easilydistracted on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 01:25:35 PM EST
    I wish I started years ago. Started on the treadmill but now outside, weather and schedule permitting. 4:30 AM Start time (otherwise too darn hot in the DFW area for me and Charlie, my dalmation running partner). I envision that ten spot coming sometime in September. Good comments. Thanks.  

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    Running's not my thing ... (none / 0) (#32)
    by Robot Porter on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 02:26:43 PM EST
    but I have upped and intensified my exercise regimen. And it has given me more lean muscle, and generally made me a happier person.

    Over the next sixth months, I'd like to get my waist from a 33" back to 31". It seems doable.  Of course, you can't target weight loss.  But I think with the right adjustments in my diet and exercise I can get there.

    Not as easy to do in my forties as it was in my twenties and thirties.  But I get more emotional benefit from exercise than I did back then which gives the motivation to keep at it.

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    Also a nonrunner (5.00 / 1) (#35)
    by brodie on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 04:14:29 PM EST
    Vigorous one hour daily walk is all that's needed to maintain or lose extra lbs and give oneself that feeling of wellbeing. Running tends to lead to high-impact physical problems over time, at least for me.

    As for spot reduction or area toning there is probably quite a lot of how-to info on the net.  I use tips from a manual on health written in the 70s which works for me, though it's probably too quirky in other aspects of health to be recc'd easily on this board.

    Good luck with the exercise program.

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    Ok, now you've got me curioius (5.00 / 1) (#61)
    by sj on Sun Aug 14, 2011 at 10:54:53 AM EST
    If it's quirky, I'm interested. LOL

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    I'm also into health writing ... (none / 0) (#41)
    by Robot Porter on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 05:35:51 PM EST
    from the seventies and earlier.  Because most of the stuff they've come up with in the last few decades has been proven wrong, or is in the process of being proven wrong.

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    Congratulations!!!! (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by desertswine on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 01:09:53 PM EST
    On your one yr anniversary.  I quit myself a few years ago and know from personal experience just how tough it is. It's no small feat, and your going to live longer and better.

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    Daily Dose of Cute via digby (5.00 / 3) (#16)
    by MO Blue on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 12:07:35 PM EST
    A rare baby Sand Cat was born to Israel's Safari Zoo recently. Once a common cat in the dunes of Israel, the cat has become basically extinct in the region. The newborn has given hope to conversationalists who hope one day to reintroduce the Sand Cat to the wild. digby

    more pictures

    Stellaaa and I are figuratively (none / 0) (#5)
    by oculus on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 10:30:04 AM EST
    in the same boat. Hoping someone will help us find a way to listen (for me, after Sept. 1). BTW, BTD's voice has gravitas, at least on the long ago blogger conference call w/Hillary Clinton.

    And the Xanax is a Godsend (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 12:54:10 PM EST
    Josh would usually be very quiet and withdrawn during this phase of traveling for surgery.  I always knew he was nervous, who wouldn't be?  But the throwing up and not being able to eat was too over the top.  While I was packing this morning, he was calling GameStop about a new game to pick up while leaving.  He watched a new iCarly episode this morning and laughed through the whole thing, and a pepperoni pizza is on its way because he is hungry.  He did wake up tearful and frightened though knowing we were leaving today before he had some Xanax.

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    MT can you please repost (5.00 / 1) (#36)
    by Jeralyn on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 04:47:07 PM EST
    this comment and leave out the Xan* word or use asterisks. It brings spammers like crazy. Thanks!

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    Done Jeralyn (none / 0) (#60)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Aug 14, 2011 at 10:30:34 AM EST


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    I attempted to sign up for the (none / 0) (#19)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 12:49:35 PM EST
    trial this morning online and the site said that they were having some kind of difficulty, and thanked me for my patience.  I wonder if there wasn't a huge run to the free trial this morning.  I needed to get us all packed for traveling anyhow so scrapped struggling with the subscription and I will also be hoping to be able to hear it after the fact.

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    Josh's new med has been a Godsend (none / 0) (#59)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Aug 14, 2011 at 10:30:20 AM EST
    Josh would usually be very quiet and withdrawn during this phase of traveling for surgery.  I always knew he was nervous, who wouldn't be?  But the throwing up and not being able to eat was too over the top.  While I was packing this morning, he was calling GameStop about a new game to pick up while leaving.  He watched a new iCarly episode this morning and laughed through the whole thing, and a pepperoni pizza is on its way because he is hungry.  He did wake up tearful and frightened though knowing we were leaving today before he had some medication.


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    The Philly Curfew? (none / 0) (#6)
    by Robot Porter on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 10:32:19 AM EST
    Has there been any talk about this here yet?  Last night 50 people were arrested in violation of it.

    It seems the government(s) in the U.S. are making as many activities illegal as possible.  So they can harass us at will.  

    Yes, this law only applies to "children", but they're always one of the first groups to be used as a test of such Fascistic measures.

    At last, a solution to crime from the Brits-- (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by KeysDan on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 12:48:44 PM EST
    Apparently seeing a parallel with the Middle-east tactic of evicting families of suicide bombers, Prime Minister Cameron is proposing to punish looters and vandals by kicking them and their families out of their government-subsidized homes. Asked if that would not render them (and their grandmothers etc) homeless, Mr. Cameron replied that "they should have thought of that before they stated burgling."

    Mr. Pickles, Minister for the Communities, not to be outdone in the sternness department, said that it was "not time to pussyfoot around."  Mr. Pickles would also like to broaden the eviction policy to not only crimes in their own neighborhoods but also, to wherever the offenses were committed. When Mr. Pickles was asked how those so penalized would live, the Minister intoned the obvious that  "they could get a job."   (based on NYT article, by John F.Burns, Saturday, August 13).

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    I said to a Brit friend ... (5.00 / 5) (#33)
    by Robot Porter on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 02:31:34 PM EST
    that the looters just didn't think big enough.

    Had they looted billions, not only would have been able to keep all they took, but the Government would have given them additional billions to get more.

    The looting needed to become too big to fail.

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    I heard this argument A LOT ... (none / 0) (#44)
    by Robot Porter on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 05:49:08 PM EST
    in the eighties when I lived in a very tough neighborhood.

    Didn't buy it then, don't buy it now.

    It implies that crime rates go up and down among youths based on the quality of the parenting.  Not only is that unproven, it's frankly ridiculous.

    The crime rates dropped drastically in that neighborhood in the nineties.  And, trust me, the parents were no better.  And the kids were no less adolescent.

    There were some adjustments in community policing.  That probably helped a little.  But most of it was due to what it's always do to:  Increased economic opportunity.  End of.


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    They took my call, so I can't complain (none / 0) (#22)
    by andgarden on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 12:55:13 PM EST
    I'm not sure I'm going to be willing to shell out for radio with ads, though.

    Pay Radio (none / 0) (#25)
    by CoralGables on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 01:11:37 PM EST
    just feels wrong.

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    Well, I pay more for TV with lots of ads (none / 0) (#26)
    by andgarden on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 01:16:16 PM EST
    so cable feels wrong too. But I'm not willing to give up what I like about it. And in any case, Time Warner has me boxed in: if I tried to cut the TV service, they'd just raise the price of my Internet connection.

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    I've been a huge radio fan ... (none / 0) (#34)
    by Robot Porter on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 02:43:03 PM EST
    from the time I was little.  But in the last ten years my radio listening has dropped to nothing, replaced by podcasting.  Much of it from radio via BBC, NPR, WBAI,etc..  But some of it amateur as well.

    I still listen to just as much "radio",  but now it's on my terms.  And there's either no advertising or, what there is, I can just fast forward through them.

    I'm sure BTD will be great on Sirius, but I won't be listening until it becomes a podcast.

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    I know what you mean (none / 0) (#62)
    by sj on Sun Aug 14, 2011 at 10:56:01 AM EST
    but the freedom from ads is worth it.  Every now and then the DJs talk too much, but that's rare.

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    what was your (none / 0) (#30)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 01:31:37 PM EST
    question? And what was the answer?

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    the ads were ridiculously (none / 0) (#37)
    by Jeralyn on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 04:51:02 PM EST
    prominent. Every time I got in the car and turned on, it was to an ad. I thought the whole deal with Sirius was it was ad free? Really disappointing. If it wasn't an ad for Sirius, it was an ad for breath mints or something else just like on FM. I thought the ads on Sirius were just on the cable tv stations like CNN and Fox -- when the TV went to break, the radio played an ad to avoid silence. I had no idea they were also on regular channels.

    I won't watch a video that begins with an ad, or a news article that automatically plays a video, I'm not going to pay for radio that does the same thing.

    Since I have a new car, I'm not paying for Sirius for another 11 months, but I won't be renewing then.

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    Really? (none / 0) (#63)
    by sj on Sun Aug 14, 2011 at 11:02:49 AM EST
    I love Sirius because of no ads.  But I have caveats:  

    1. For convoluted reasons, I've been without Sirius for a couple of months and just re-activated yesterday (afternoon, alas) so I don't know if there's a change there.  I DO know that there was a lineup change while I was on hiatus.

    2. I have it for the music and previously never listened to talk radio on it so I don't know about those channels.


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    It does depend on the station (none / 0) (#64)
    by ruffian on Mon Aug 15, 2011 at 01:21:34 PM EST
    If they get the content from someplace instead of produced by Sirius, it has ads. The Sirius left station does have so many ads that it drives me nuts to listen to it sometimes.

    The music stations Sirius/XM produces themselves do not have ads. I mostly listen to those, and the NPR and BBC news stations, and CSPAN.

    I was out of town and missed BTD this weekend. Will try next Saturday.

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    Order of finish in Ames (none / 0) (#46)
    by CoralGables on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 06:35:28 PM EST
    1. Bachmann 4,823
    2. Ron Paul 4,671
    3. Tim Pawlenty 2,293
    4. Rick Santorum 1,567
    5. Herman Cain 1,456
    6. Rick Perry 718
    7. Mitt Romney 567
    8. Newt Gingrich 385
    9. Jon Huntsman 69
    10. Thad McCotter 35


    since the GOP (5.00 / 3) (#48)
    by The Addams Family on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 06:55:42 PM EST
    has Republican mole Obama in the White House, they might as well nominate someone completely unelectable

    they can simultaneously throw a lemon at the Tea Party & get Bachmann out of the way for good, making Jeb a shoo-in for 2016, with virtually no losses on the policy front between now & January 2017

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    That (5.00 / 1) (#57)
    by lentinel on Sun Aug 14, 2011 at 02:35:44 AM EST
    is the sort of 11 dimensional chess that I can believe in.

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    Surprised TPaw finished so high up. (none / 0) (#47)
    by caseyOR on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 06:55:34 PM EST
    I expected Bachman and Paul to do well, but not ole" Tim. And even though this is Iowa, and the far right rules the GOP there, I did think Mitt would have a better showing. I mean, geez, Herman Cain polled better than Mitt.

    Always happy, of course, to see it rain on Newt's parade.

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    Actually, pretty much as predicted (none / 0) (#49)
    by NYShooter on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 07:11:52 PM EST
    The "craziest always get the top spot. Remember Pat Robertson won in '87. Ron Paul, as #2 was as expected (a well known favorite there). Tim Pawlenty, from the get-go, made Iowa his Waterloo. He spent tons of money, and as the news reports tell, has practically moved there this past year.

    As for Romney, he's just following his game plan, lay low, no gaffes, Iowa not his constituency.  


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    True only for Repubs (none / 0) (#53)
    by Towanda on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 09:50:21 PM EST
    that the craziest always get the top spot in Iowa straw polls, or is that true of Dems, too?  If so, who took the Dem top spot last time?

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    The Dems (none / 0) (#54)
    by Zorba on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 09:58:09 PM EST
    don't have a straw poll in Iowa- only the Repubs do.

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    Dems do not have a straw poll in Iowa (none / 0) (#55)
    by Politalkix on Sat Aug 13, 2011 at 11:14:55 PM EST
    However Iowa caucus participants have made very reasonable choices for Democrats
    2008 - Barack Obama (38%),
    2004 - John Kerry (38%),
    2000 - Al Gore (63%)
    1996 - Bill Clinton (unopposed)
    1992 - Tom Harkin (76%)
    1988 - Dick Gephardt (31%), Paul Simon (27%), 1984 - Walter Mondale (49%)
    1980 - Jimmy Carter (59%)
    1976 - "Uncommitted" (37%), Jimmy Carter (28%)
    1972 - "Uncommitted" (36%), Edmund Muskie (36%)

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    Thanks, yes, I then took me to the toobz (none / 0) (#58)
    by Towanda on Sun Aug 14, 2011 at 07:29:22 AM EST
    of the Internet, as I ought to have done before posting, and refreshed my memory about Iowa and its place in our national politics.  Always amazes me that we allow that, as it's so atypical a state and so unwilling to pay for primaries and more.

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