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By Jeralyn, Section Blog Related
Posted on Tue Jul 05, 2011 at 08:15:13 PM EST
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It's been a long day here. Time for dinner and an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    I find out tomorrow (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by jeffinalabama on Tue Jul 05, 2011 at 09:17:35 PM EST
    if the idiot government will allow my son, a citizen, to enter the USA.

    Oculus, I'm listening to the overture of "Tannhauser."

    It seems appropriate.

    Good luck today (5.00 / 2) (#14)
    by MO Blue on Wed Jul 06, 2011 at 07:36:06 AM EST
    Hope you are able to find someone in the "idiot government" who is able to understand the words U.S. citizen and the fact that a citizen does have a few remaining rights such as entering the country.

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    I'm pretty sure the one thing (none / 0) (#5)
    by andgarden on Tue Jul 05, 2011 at 09:22:41 PM EST
    U.S. Immigration can't do is prevent U.S. Citizens from reentering the United States.

    But then, I haven't really looked into it in a while. . .

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    they already have (none / 0) (#6)
    by jeffinalabama on Tue Jul 05, 2011 at 09:37:49 PM EST


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    Not so much your son, as the adult who (none / 0) (#7)
    by Peter G on Tue Jul 05, 2011 at 09:38:28 PM EST
    will accompany him, right?  As Andy points out, a citizen can always enter and leave the U.S. - it's his constitutional right.  Thus, you (a citizen, right?) could go to Colombia (IIRC?) and return with him, I would think, assuming you could afford to, and that it wasn't in violation of any judicial custody order.

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    Well, you're both mistaken, (none / 0) (#8)
    by jeffinalabama on Tue Jul 05, 2011 at 09:46:02 PM EST
    but I certainly can't offer you the legalities, since IANAL. I can only tell you that the barriers for a citizen to re-enter the country can be substantial. Between the US ICE and TSA my son was forbidden. I've filled out all of the Colombian papers. They were processed months ago.

    Explain it to me.

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    Well, I can't give you legal advice (none / 0) (#9)
    by andgarden on Tue Jul 05, 2011 at 09:54:06 PM EST
    and I'm not competent to advise you on this, but I would have thought that their hands would be tied once your son's citizenship was established.

    You have an immigration lawyer?

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    yep, and (none / 0) (#10)
    by jeffinalabama on Tue Jul 05, 2011 at 10:01:13 PM EST
     a civil rights lawyer. I'm not gonna spell out everything here, but I'm almost ready to renounce over this mess.

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    Seems like you're going in the right direction (5.00 / 2) (#11)
    by andgarden on Tue Jul 05, 2011 at 10:02:23 PM EST
    If it's any consolation, I'm outraged on your behalf.

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    Mind-blowing. Do your lawyers say (none / 0) (#12)
    by Peter G on Tue Jul 05, 2011 at 10:24:46 PM EST
    that TSA and ICE are legally correct, or legally incorrect but bureaucratically powerful and difficult to overcome even when they're wrong?  I'd love to see their rationale (if you have it, you could e-mail it to Jeralyn, who would forward it to me if you asked her); I'm just flabbergasted.  How old is your son - very young, right? And they concede he's a US citizen?  I just don't get it.

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    Peter, I'm waiting for (none / 0) (#19)
    by jeffinalabama on Wed Jul 06, 2011 at 11:17:27 AM EST
    even documents. TSA and ICE refused in COLOMBIA...barred them.

    now my 8 year old can be a handfull. But a terrorist? I don't think so, not even to his pets.

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    There's a lot of things.. (none / 0) (#18)
    by kdog on Wed Jul 06, 2011 at 10:25:39 AM EST
    I thought the government can't do...but they do, often, and to the nicest people.

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    Music as great as that (none / 0) (#13)
    by gyrfalcon on Wed Jul 06, 2011 at 12:57:27 AM EST
    is always appropriate.  Listen also to the pilgrim's chorus later in the opera.

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    Worth waiting in line for: (none / 0) (#2)
    by oculus on Tue Jul 05, 2011 at 08:36:18 PM EST
    "All's Well That Ends Well" @ the Delacorte in Central Park. And free!  

    Seems like you picked a perfect week (none / 0) (#3)
    by andgarden on Tue Jul 05, 2011 at 08:45:02 PM EST
    to be in the city. Usually it's a muggy soup this time of year.

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    Sorry I missed it... (none / 0) (#15)
    by kdog on Wed Jul 06, 2011 at 07:42:54 AM EST
    hope it was worth waiting in, not one, but two lines!

    My crib smells like a Dow Chemical plant, but I think (hope?) we've got the fleas in retreat.  And it was a good excuse to spend the evening with the stereo around the fire pit with a pitcher of 'ritas and the peace pipe post-fumigation.  

    Sorry PETA, ants I can deal with but fleas must die!

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    Fire pit and a pitcher of 'ritas sounds great (none / 0) (#16)
    by republicratitarian on Wed Jul 06, 2011 at 08:30:55 AM EST
    We are getting out on a boat this weekend for the Blue Angels annual beach show here on the gulf coast. Full dress rehearsal on Friday and full show on Saturday.

    Two for the price of none!

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    Nice one mate... (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by kdog on Wed Jul 06, 2011 at 08:43:13 AM EST
    knock a couple back for all us sinners, and enjoy the shows this weekend!

    It was really too hot to be near fire, but I just love staring at flame and listening to wood pop...it is therapuetic.  This may be a psychedelic flashback talking, but I could swear the flame was dancing in rhythym to "Axis Bold as Love" at points.

    And so castles made of sand slips into the sea, eventually

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    To keep the fleas at bay (none / 0) (#21)
    by nycstray on Wed Jul 06, 2011 at 06:44:37 PM EST
    try a eucalyptus spray. I put leaves inside the pet beds and I go around my baseboards and do rugs and furniture with the spray. Had major breakout late winter here (they don't disappear in the winter in CA!) I also have leaves under my couch cushions and put oil on the pet collars. I'm "winning" now, so far :)

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    Gracias Stray... (none / 0) (#23)
    by kdog on Thu Jul 07, 2011 at 07:56:40 AM EST
    I'll keep eucalyptus in mind as a preventitive measure, now that I've gassed the little buggers to near extinction.

    If I see an ant or two I'm unskeeved, and spiders I love, they're welcome to squat anytime...but something about those miniscule fleas grosses me out, can't have it.

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    Can cause serious health issues. (none / 0) (#24)
    by jeffinalabama on Thu Jul 07, 2011 at 11:43:51 AM EST
    Including transmission of intestinal parasites. Not a flea fan here, except the one in the band.

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    Add... (none / 0) (#20)
    by kdog on Wed Jul 06, 2011 at 11:31:36 AM EST
    if you're still in town Oc, a concert in C.P. tonight brought to us by the Latin Alternative Music Conference...a latin rock band from Spain, a Mexican vocalist, and Peruvian DJ doing electronica...I shall be there expanding my horizons.

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    Budget cuts . . . (none / 0) (#22)
    by nycstray on Wed Jul 06, 2011 at 06:49:35 PM EST
    just wiped out one of my fall classes :( It was a Web programing class. So much for trying to advance my skills for the job market here. They better not touch my ceramic throwing class! :P
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