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Posted on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 12:27:02 PM EST
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    Wow, Erick Erickson et. al. (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by observed on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 02:41:45 PM EST
    are explaining that the Norwegian really WAS a Muslim terrorist, because Christians don't commit terrorist acts---Muslims do.

    Sinn Fein is Irish for "The Base", right?

    Bought a Kindle (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 04:50:33 PM EST
    for the Grandson.

    He likes it. I'm thinking of one for me.

    But can anyone post some of the so-called "free sites" I can down load some books on??

    Thanks

    just type "free books for kindle" (none / 0) (#33)
    by Farmboy on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 05:03:05 PM EST
    into a web search box.

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    Good for Barney (4.00 / 1) (#6)
    by CST on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 12:57:19 PM EST
    Calling people out.  Link

    And he is naming names, Tim Geithner.

    "BOYS WILL be boys, and in Washington, sometimes that means girls get run out of town."

    ""Two of the most important women regulators have now left,'' said Frank. He believes they encountered more resistance than is explained by politics or ideology. In the aftermath, he is bluntly calling out Washington, particularly Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, for "gender bias.''"

    Frank has been pretty vocal (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by nycstray on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 01:36:45 PM EST
    these past few days.

    Hasn't it been suggested before that Timmy has a prob with women? Or is it just that I'm so used to hearing this kinda thing, it sounds like I've heard it before? :}

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    how you doing, stray? (5.00 / 2) (#27)
    by The Addams Family on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 03:01:02 PM EST


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    Hangin' in (5.00 / 2) (#39)
    by nycstray on Tue Jul 26, 2011 at 12:02:13 AM EST
    still very sad and depressed. Not the same around here.

    Thanks for checking :)

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    "Get Rid of the Pushy Broad" syndrome (none / 0) (#28)
    by The Addams Family on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 03:06:07 PM EST
    spot on

    good for Barney

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    Kazakhstan interview will be in (none / 0) (#1)
    by observed on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 12:36:08 PM EST
    a little over two hours, or sometime tomorrow if my email arrived too late.
    I did more reading and saw that this is an international Carnegie Mellon school, which looks like a good sign.

    I have to make sure my list of questions is in order!

    Good luck! (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by kdog on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 01:01:44 PM EST
    and say hi to Borat when ya get the gig:)

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    I just had the interview. (5.00 / 3) (#31)
    by observed on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 04:26:54 PM EST
    It was long and very informative.
    I don't want to jinx anything by saying too much, but, academically, this opportunity is far, far better than I had expected---absolutely first rate.
    I'm under consideration. The next stop is an interview at CMU in Pittsburg. As I understand it, that step is going to happen now. I'll know for sure quite soon.
    If I do get the job and choose to go, I could be in KZ by Aug. 15. I hope the temperature is still above freezing then!

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    Practice your spelling for the CMU visit: (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by Peter G on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 07:12:03 PM EST
    Pittsburgh, not Pittsburg.  They're very sensitive about that out there.  Especially since the state capital is Harrisburg!  


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    I was just saying a (none / 0) (#38)
    by observed on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 08:32:53 PM EST
    few days ago that I could not make it as a proofreader.


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    Classes are in English, (none / 0) (#34)
    by observed on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 06:05:53 PM EST
    btw. You need another language for everyday living.


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    Do a great job. (none / 0) (#3)
    by oculus on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 12:42:45 PM EST


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    Thanks. (none / 0) (#4)
    by observed on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 12:47:37 PM EST


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    Tell them (5.00 / 2) (#29)
    by jeffinalabama on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 03:12:28 PM EST
    they'll have to deal with ME if they don't give it to ya, and there WILL be furniture moving in the interview room!

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    The "lean, mean, fighting machine"! (none / 0) (#35)
    by oculus on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 06:14:36 PM EST


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    cool! (none / 0) (#11)
    by CST on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 01:17:24 PM EST
    I went to undergrad there, the Pittsburgh version, and while I was there I had a very good friend from Kazakhstan who is back there today - although we lost touch, since he's living in Kazakhstan and all.  I wonder if you will meet him, probably not, as he isn't in acedemia.  But that would be kind of cool.

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    Oh wow. I have absolutely no idea (none / 0) (#13)
    by observed on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 01:22:31 PM EST
    of the culture there, except to extrapolate the Russian influence. I know it's a mostly Muslim country, but that's not very informative.
    They hunt with golden eagles in Central Asia, which is cool as long as you are not a mountain goat.


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    I actually had 2 friends (none / 0) (#18)
    by CST on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 01:42:43 PM EST
    from there.  One was clearly of Russian descent, and the other one was clearly... not.  He was more Asian looking than anything else, but not like any other kind of Asian that I'd seen.  The Russian-looking one was Christian (I think) and the other was Muslim, but neither was particularly religious and they were both very culturally open - since the country is a bit stuck between east and west.  That being said, it's politically still very closed.  There are those in power, and they stay in power.  And that can translate economically as well.

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    Thanks, that's helpful. (none / 0) (#21)
    by observed on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 02:08:51 PM EST


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    Learned something already today. (none / 0) (#2)
    by oculus on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 12:37:26 PM EST
    When the Knights Templar, after devolving their property under pressure, went to Malta, they were pirates. Juan Cole

    Segue:  statements of accused murderer in Norway.  

    Pamela Gellar at Atlas Shrugs (none / 0) (#5)
    by Farmboy on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 12:53:59 PM EST
    seems unhappy with allegations that her blog was an inspiration to the accused Oslo terrorist. She asks, "Were the Beatles responsible for Charles Manson?"

    My first thought is no, they weren't, and Ms. Gellar, you're no Beatle. However, as Manson just talked about hate and violence but didn't actually kill anyone at the Tate house, isn't a better question, "Was Charles Manson responsible for the acts of Charles Watson and the others in his 'family'?"

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    Those who commit the act... (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by kdog on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 01:22:26 PM EST
    are responsible for the act.

    Of course it ain't cool to instigate with speech and push whackjob buttons...but free speech includes inflammatory speech, and sometimes it is necessary, like when mocking religous or political extremism.

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    Except that (none / 0) (#14)
    by jbindc on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 01:29:05 PM EST
    Manson was convicted of exercising his right to free speech.

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    Conspiracy... (none / 0) (#17)
    by kdog on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 01:39:29 PM EST
    technically...but point taken.  It's a tricky fine line, I like erroring on the side of free speech.  Violent cult leaders are tough cases though.

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    I Just Want to Slap People... (none / 0) (#30)
    by ScottW714 on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 04:05:48 PM EST
    ... who are so fricken stupid.

    Manson, like Berkowitz imagined messages that didn't exist.  This guy understood the message precisely, it's not exactly subtle.

    Free speech, is not the same as responsible speech.  She can can say whatever it is she wants, but when the S hits the fan, and the perpetrator's manifesto names her as an inspiration, she doesn't get to pretend her message was misinterpreted.

    Own it, the guy was nuts, but like everything from that side, they are ashamed of what they actually did/wrote, so lie and spin.

    And of course she has to end her rant by blaming the left, aka The Times, for the propaganda campaign.

    Always the victim.

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    Do you blame the Beatles for Manson's (none / 0) (#36)
    by oculus on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 06:15:25 PM EST
    violence?

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    What next---Charles Martel was a (none / 0) (#10)
    by observed on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 01:15:15 PM EST
    great humanitarian?
    IIRC, he's right up there with Vlad in ferocity and brutality.


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    Martel gets a sympathetic view (none / 0) (#15)
    by oculus on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 01:33:33 PM EST
    from Wiki.  

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    Well, he may have been a hero in (none / 0) (#19)
    by observed on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 02:06:28 PM EST
    terms of saving the West, but I had thought he was known to be incredibly brutal.

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    Of course, Mr. Alighieri explained to me (none / 0) (#20)
    by observed on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 02:07:19 PM EST
    the transcendent virtue of Martel, when I was an undergrad.

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    Different Charles Martel. (none / 0) (#22)
    by oculus on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 02:13:49 PM EST


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    ah, thanks. I thought he was a contemporary (none / 0) (#23)
    by observed on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 02:20:51 PM EST
    of Dante's.. but it's been 30 years since I took the course.

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    I am impressed you remember details (none / 0) (#24)
    by oculus on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 02:24:34 PM EST
    re Dante course, which I never took.  Did just listen to audio of "The Inferno," looked at Botticelli's drawings, and skimmed an annotated edition.  Haven't gotten to "Paradiso" yet.  

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    one of my favorite non-math courses. (none / 0) (#25)
    by observed on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 02:26:36 PM EST
    I also really enjoyed a course on Milton. I bombed that one because of not doing my paper, but I learned a lot.

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    Ezra suggests (none / 0) (#8)
    by lilburro on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 01:08:04 PM EST
    we won't know who "won" the debt ceiling battle until 2012, when the Bush tax cuts are either extended or not extended.  I don't think a spending cuts only debt ceiling package increases the likelihood that the tax cuts will expire.  I'd say if unemployment is above 7% those tax cuts aren't going anywhere for anyone.  And unfortunately it looks like unemployment will be higher than that.

    Is he fcking kidding? (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by observed on Mon Jul 25, 2011 at 01:13:30 PM EST
    Of course there will be no "tax increases" in an election year.

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