Sunday Night TV and Open Thread

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Posted on Sun Jul 10, 2011 at 08:04:03 PM EST
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Big Brother is good this season. How will CBS explain Evel Dick's sudden departure after only one day? They'll tell you Wednesday. Get the real scoop after the show airs tonight from the man himself.

There's a new Food Network Challenge. Can Penny just please leave already? Vinnie has returned to the Jersey Shore house and hopefully will avoid a million dollar lawsuit for walking out. This cast is imploding and Italy did not go well for hem. They are back filming in Seaside Heights -- surely this will be the last season for them.

Only one more week till Breaking Bad resumes. The New York Times has this in-depth article. Sounds like Walter will implode too, but not for good until next season.

How do we watch the new season of Damages without Direct TV? Will it be available on iTunes? And has there ever been a worse season of The Bachelorette? Ashley turned out to be a huge mistake, completely unprepared for the journey and lacking in chemistry with the guys. Did they overplay and overhype bad boy Bentley just to obscure the lack of a love story? I wouldn't be surprised.

This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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USA vs Brazil Women's Soccer today was (5.00 / 1) (#5)
by tigercourse on Sun Jul 10, 2011 at 09:23:11 PM EST

the best game I can ever remember seeing (not that I've seen that many games).

It also had (none / 0) (#13)
by CoralGables on Mon Jul 11, 2011 at 12:01:18 AM EST

one of the biggest flops I've ever seen an athlete make. I thought some NBA players were bad. Thankfully it backfired with the US scoring in the added time from the Erika flop.


: Yes, that was absurd. She laid on the ground (none / 0) (#18)
by tigercourse on Mon Jul 11, 2011 at 01:09:15 AM EST

for about 3 minutes, gets carted off on a board and then jumps up the second she's off the field? Everyone expects a little malingering but that was way over the line.
I was in a bar after work and everyone else was talking about Jeter, but I kept brining up this game. I'm about two steps away from being David Puddy from Seinfeld.

Un-freakin'-believable... (none / 0) (#25)
by kdog on Mon Jul 11, 2011 at 08:42:36 AM EST

what a game, what a finish! Rapinoe's cross to Wambach for the equalizer may be the best ball I've ever seen...absolutely perfect, just over the defender and the goalie's fingertips, and Wambach headed 'er home. The beautiful game at its most beautiful.

Now bring it home ladies! USA! USA!


Yep, this tournament (none / 0) (#27)
by brodie on Mon Jul 11, 2011 at 09:18:33 AM EST

has had a few great games already, and yesterday's US v Brazil was even better than Japan v Germany of a few days ago. Even better than the US v Brazil championship game of 1999 at the Rose Bowl (although I liked the way Brandy Chastain celebrated the end of that one ...)

For Brazil, no one can equal the individual talent of Marta, and Christiane also looked highly skilled. But the US had Amy Wambach, perhaps our most skilled individual player, as well as the skilled passer Rapinoe, the gamine girl from CA with the short blonde hair reminiscent of Jean Seberg.

Also worthy of mention is the very good US goalie, Hope Solo* -- a perfect name for someone playing that position -- who stopped one PK in regular time, only to have the ref make a ticky-tack call against her for coming off her line prematurely, then stopped a Brazil PK in the final shootout for the victory.

(* No, no I don't know whether she's related to the famous American spy from the 1960s, Napoleon Solo .)


hahaha (none / 0) (#29)
by CST on Mon Jul 11, 2011 at 10:01:52 AM EST

just as a heads up - that 1999 game was USA vs China, not Brazil.

Great game though.


: Right -- been 12 yrs (none / 0) (#32)
by brodie on Mon Jul 11, 2011 at 10:27:14 AM EST

and, after looking it up, perhaps I confused with the prior game they played in the semis against Brazil. A rare unforced error by yours truly.
Still, yesterday's, even though not a final, was a far more entertaining and better played game than the 1999 finale which had no scoring at all until the PK shootout. It had everything, including good individual and team play and bad refereeing, unjust calls and non-calls balanced out, in the end, by an amusingly faked injury by a Brazil player leading to more time put on the clock for the US to score the equalizer.

But (none / 0) (#31)
by CoralGables on Mon Jul 11, 2011 at 10:11:15 AM EST

(* No, no I don't know whether she's related to the famous American spy from the 1960s, Napoleon Solo.)

with that personality, she can probably be found in the family tree of Hans Solo.


Obama (none / 0) (#1)
by lilburro on Sun Jul 10, 2011 at 08:29:10 PM EST

and the Overton Window...someone should introduce them sometime...NYT:

White House officials said Mr. Obama was still determined to pursue the boldest package possible -- one that would require new tax revenue as well as cuts in Medicare and other entitlement programs -- but he faced unrelenting opposition from Republicans and growing qualms among Democrats.

You can just tell that Obama walked in that room and demanded a trillion dollars in new revenue. ...

Honestly I think Boehner comes off as fairly reasonable (although his party doesn't at all) for being open to increasing taxes (hypothetically). I think it takes a lot of investment in Obama to see him as the one supporting the little guy and fighting to tax the rich in this negotiation.

: And of course (none / 0) (#2)
by lilburro on Sun Jul 10, 2011 at 08:31:43 PM EST

I know Obama is 10000x more likely to want and to deliver on middle class tax cuts and raising the taxes on the rich slightly than Boehner. But I think Boehner is doing just as good a job at making himself look reasonable as Obama. And apparently, that is the whole point of this bullsh*t.

I hate the thought of missing Damages (none / 0) (#3)
by ruffian on Sun Jul 10, 2011 at 08:36:05 PM EST

I hope there is a waybto see it. I'll look into it.

A new season of Curb Your Enthusiasm starts tonight too. I think that's a fun y show especially as my inner curmudgeon emerges more daily.

: I hope you can find a way to watch it; (none / 0) (#7)
by Anne on Sun Jul 10, 2011 at 10:39:21 PM EST

as a DirecTV subsciber, I can't wait for Wednesday - it looks like it might be the best season yet.
Do you watch The Closer? Its last season starts tomorrow night.
And I have really been enjoying The Glee Project on Oxygen - those kids are so talented, and what an opportunity one of them will have, to get a 7-episode role on Glee.

: Loved the Curb... (none / 0) (#26)
by kdog on Mon Jul 11, 2011 at 08:44:23 AM EST

Larry does it again...funny stuff.
Never judge a lawyer by his or her religion! :)

BTW (none / 0) (#4)
by lilburro on Sun Jul 10, 2011 at 09:02:00 PM EST

if the point of all this negotiation and debt ceiling business is to show that the GOP is intractable, why can't we have that demonstrated around a jobs bill? Wouldn't that be a little more memorable, hit a little more close to home?

God this has just been an utterly obnoxious week in politics.

Apparently nothing hits close to home (none / 0) (#8)
by Politalkix on Sun Jul 10, 2011 at 10:43:16 PM EST

till people get hurt themselves. Many among the 90% who have jobs do not think that any federally funded stimulus is going to help as far as creation of jobs are concerned (but may hurt them through increased taxation). They are just as selfish as many people in TL (where many think that a democratic president should only cater to the economic interests of defense lawyers, public sector unions and senior citizens-i.e. the politically connected interest groups). If defense lawyers, public sector union workers and retired senior citizens had understood the plight of many manufacturing and engineering workers whose jobs got offshored over the last 3 decades (while these politically connected interest groups in the left waxed eloquent about creating a "service economy") and lifted a finger to help them, they would not be in the economic situation that they are in, now. When middle class people in private sector manufacturing started losing jobs through offshoring, these defense lawyers and public sector union employees thought they were immune from layoffs because of their political lobbying power. They were thrilled about buying homes, Asian made television sets and electronics using borrowed money and maximising their incomes through trading stocks, etc while other hapless workers in the private sector lost jobs. Reality has caught up with many of these people now, the same reality that many in the manufacturing sector has been facing for decades.


: latte libel masquerading as an argument (5.00 / 2) (#11)
by andgarden on Sun Jul 10, 2011 at 11:12:19 PM EST

Better luck next time.

: Well that's just phucking insulting (5.00 / 1) (#16)
by nycstray on Mon Jul 11, 2011 at 12:37:41 AM EST

and wrong.

Many among the 90% who have jobs do not think that any federally funded stimulus is going to help as far as creation of jobs are concerned (but may hurt them through increased taxation). They are just as selfish as many people in TL (where many think that a democratic president should only cater to the economic interests of defense lawyers, public sector unions and senior citizens-i.e. the politically connected interest groups).
And yes I bolded part of it because you seem to not know your audience, or DFHs (/s) . . . .
and did it ever occur to you WHY the stimulus didn't work? You might want to do some research . . .

: u forgot to blame (5.00 / 1) (#24)
by observed on Mon Jul 11, 2011 at 05:40:04 AM EST

Womyn in the workforce, bud. They played just as much a role. Oh yeah, and big wild cats.

: why do you include defense lawyers? (none / 0) (#15)
by Jeralyn on Mon Jul 11, 2011 at 12:33:37 AM EST

BTD is not a criminal defense lawyer and I haven't opined on this topic, nor do I think has any other defense lawyer. If you meant insurance company defense lawyers, I'm also not aware of any that comment here.
Nor do I think anyone on TL has ever suggested "a democratic president should only cater to the economic interests of defense lawyers." I think a Democratic President should pay attention to the legal rights of our clients, but that has nothing to do with economic interests or employment of lawyers.

: As a (none / 0) (#30)
by lilburro on Mon Jul 11, 2011 at 10:07:30 AM EST

non-union worker under the age of 30 I am not exactly sure how "selfish" I am for promoting increased employment and the preservation of the social safety net. But I think it's probably a better policy than "I hope you all suffer" which is pretty much all I got out of your comment.
And I'm not sure where the idea that those among the 90% don't care about unemployment comes from. Jobs are still the number one issue. Most people know at least one person either unemployed or underemployed and have helped them out to some degree.

: Ridiculous (none / 0) (#35)
by Yman on Mon Jul 11, 2011 at 01:41:30 PM EST

They are just as selfish as many people in TL (where many think that a democratic president should only cater to the economic interests of defense lawyers, public sector unions and senior citizens-i.e. the politically connected interest groups)
Not a single person at TL has ever advanced such a ridiculous position. You should be careful. All that bitterness might ignite all that straw you're playing with.

I want to like Breaking Bad (none / 0) (#6)
by Dadler on Sun Jul 10, 2011 at 09:33:32 PM EST

But having lived in the inner-city for a decade, and next door to a crystal-meth manufacturer/dealer for several of those, I'm sorry, it's really impossible for me to relate to BB. No fictional show on any American TV network could capture the truth. Narrative is just too structured and digestible to ever come close. But I have been a Bryan Cranston fan since his days on Seinfeld as nutty dentist Tim Whatley.

Anybody with an interest in (none / 0) (#9)
by jeffinalabama on Sun Jul 10, 2011 at 10:59:30 PM EST

"Old Florida" shoot me a message, and I'll give you the contact info for one of the few mom and pop beach hotel/motel's in Cocoa beach. Fridge, cooking utensils, bed and futon, microwave, coffee maker...

20 yards from the beach. Pet Friendly.

Reminds me of the 60's on the Space Coast, my earliest memories from this area.

Also, budget friendly. Quiet.

And a path to the beach, the beautiful Atlantic.

Which part of town? n/t (none / 0) (#12)
by MileHi Hawkeye on Sun Jul 10, 2011 at 11:25:50 PM EST

: southern part. (none / 0) (#28)
by jeffinalabama on Mon Jul 11, 2011 at 09:41:41 AM EST

Near some condos, but just north of the air force base, It's also turtle season!

Re "Midnight in Paris." (none / 0) (#10)
by oculus on Sun Jul 10, 2011 at 11:04:56 PM EST

Worth the price of admission to see the sunset behind the Arc de Triomphe. But, having just done an immersion course in all things Stein and Cone, the whole '20s salon scene in Paris, as depicted in the film, was kind of disappointing.

That's sad (none / 0) (#14)
by nycstray on Mon Jul 11, 2011 at 12:22:58 AM EST

. . . the whole '20s salon scene in Paris, as depicted in the film, was kind of disappointing.

I always love reading/viewing the different times of great art periods and the backgrounds that set the stage.


You'll know what I mean once you see the (none / 0) (#17)
by oculus on Mon Jul 11, 2011 at 12:52:27 AM EST

two Stein exhibits in SF. I also read, before going to the exhibits, Gertrude Stein's "The Autobiography of Alice B. Toklas" and Janet Malcolm's "Two Lives."


Stein exhibits in SanFran (none / 0) (#23)
by caseyOR on Mon Jul 11, 2011 at 04:30:22 AM EST

The SF Museum of Modern Art exhibit is showing incredible art collection amassed by Gertrude Stein and her brother during their years in Paris.

The Contemporary Jewish Museum's exhibit, IIRC, is a more personal history of the Steins, who were from Oakland.

Everything I have read about these two exhibits makes me quite sad that there is no way I can get to SF this summer to see them. If you are going to be in Oakland, they are definitely worth the price of a BART ticket.


SFMOMA: get a timed ticket on line. (none / 0) (#33)
by oculus on Mon Jul 11, 2011 at 12:33:25 PM EST

Contemporary Jewish Museum: ok to walk in. Easy walking distance between the two museums and close to Powell St. Bart.


: All true, although the Malcolm bio (none / 0) (#38)
by oculus on Mon Jul 11, 2011 at 04:39:09 PM EST

includes information about people who helped Toklas financially. I think the Cone sisters bought lots of paintings directly from the artists but also bought some of Gertrude's collection after the raid.

I didn't think Bates inhabited the role of (none / 0) (#34)
by oculus on Mon Jul 11, 2011 at 12:36:52 PM EST

Stein, perhaps because Woody's dialogue wasn't "Steinesque." Plus, Bates' hair wasn't short enough and Bates wasn't stout enough. I did enjoy watching the movie though.
