Thursday Afternoon Open Thread

Busy day at work. I'm posting this from my iPad. Here's an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    Class sex toy demonstration (none / 0) (#1)
    by Capt Howdy on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 02:13:05 PM EST
    causes controversy

    "Northwestern University faculty members engage in teaching and research on a wide variety of topics, some of them controversial and at the leading edge of their respective disciplines. The university supports the efforts of its faculty to further the advancement of knowledge."

    tooltime at the college leve.

    btw (none / 0) (#2)
    by Capt Howdy on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 02:14:18 PM EST
    if you are not clear on the "tool" google the term in the article.  its the first pic.

    Nepalese Government... (none / 0) (#3)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 02:27:00 PM EST
    raining tyranny on the parade at the big hindu festival in Katmandu.  At least they aren't bustin' the holy men's chops for enjoying the sacrament, just their suppliers.  For shame Nepal...for shame.

    Sorry Mr. Seger...but I must disagree.  If I ever get outta here, it'll have to be someplace other than Ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-katmandu.

    Other end of spectrum (none / 0) (#4)
    by mmc9431 on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 02:27:25 PM EST
    Evidently none of those teachers will be working at BYU any time soon!

    "Davies was kicked off the team for engaging in premarital sex with his girlfriend, a violation of the university's honor code that states all students must remain "chaste and virtuous." According to the Salt Lake Tribune, Davies admitted to the violation on Monday".

    I really wonder how many sophmores or juniors in college today have remained virtuous?

    Not many:)... (none / 0) (#5)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 02:35:36 PM EST
    Harsh honor code at BYU...thats gotta hurt recruiting.

    When I heard honor code I assumed cheating on a test or something...last thing I woulda thought of was consensual boot-knocking...weird freakin' school that BYU.


    BYU is what it is (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by Slado on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 02:38:46 PM EST
    He knew what he was getting into.

    This isn't something they force onto student athletes.  It is explained to them that they must live a certain way, the Mormon way, if they want to attend a school named after a key Mormon.

    While the whole situation is regrettable it's nothing more then that.  It's a shame he broke the honor code but it's an arrangement he willingly entered into.


    I hear ya... (none / 0) (#11)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 02:44:11 PM EST
    I heard they can't even drink tea or coffee per the honor code...really weird school that BYU:)  

    But you're right, the kid signed the stupid thing...shoulda came to St. Johns bro! :)


    So... (1.00 / 1) (#26)
    by ScottW714 on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 05:27:47 PM EST
    Does that mean super star Steve Young played it straight, not only did he attend BYU, he is direct descendant of Brigham Young.

    I also have a hard time believing his predecessor, JimmyMac, wasn't corralling every piece of tail at BYU.


    He Broke the Code Just Being Born (none / 0) (#33)
    by ScottW714 on Fri Mar 04, 2011 at 09:26:08 AM EST
    If this story is any indication, BYU doesn't care if the athlete is a star, or if the team is doing well, they will cut them.

    Or the obvious answer, the code is a non-sense code that is only used when they can't use another.

    I guess I am just having a hard time believing that this college actually enforces a no sex policy, that has to kill their recruiting abilities.


    New Ipad? (none / 0) (#6)
    by Slado on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 02:36:16 PM EST
    Is it the new Ipad Jeralyn or the older version?

    I am a hardcore Apple guy and I delayed getting the Ipad and waited for this one.  Still not sure if I'm going to pull the trigger.

    Maybe I should to help the economy?

    Must be her original since the new ones aren't (none / 0) (#8)
    by ruffian on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 02:39:32 PM EST
    on the street yet.

    I'm not tempted by this upgrade, though 33% lighter would be just about perfect. I don't care about the camera, but if they upgrade the display next time around I'll think about it!


    I have no need for one (none / 0) (#10)
    by Slado on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 02:43:27 PM EST
    Basically i need it to surf the web in bed.  And the occasional airplane trip so I can play Thomas the Tank Engine for my boys.

    In other words it is a splurge but gosh darn I want one.


    Definitely a splurge (none / 0) (#12)
    by ruffian on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 02:53:45 PM EST
    and not a necessity. But it is fun.

    Such a dilemna: opera and plane tickets (none / 0) (#13)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 03:13:30 PM EST
    or iPad.  

    if it were me (5.00 / 2) (#14)
    by CST on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 03:19:43 PM EST
    opera and plane tickets.

    But I like "experiences" a lot more than I like "things"


    No brainer imo... (5.00 / 3) (#15)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 03:23:32 PM EST
    see the opera...that lasts forever, the new I-thingie will be an antique in 2 years.

    I wouldn't trade the concerts I've seen for all the I-thingies at the factory.


    Such good advice, espec. since I've (none / 0) (#16)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 03:41:06 PM EST
    already bought the opera tickets!   BTW, Joyce DiDonato (mezzo soprano), who I heard sing a recital in Santa Monica recently, is one of the reasons I just had to get a ticket to Rossini opera in April.  Today I found out she is singing at Le Poisson Rouge later in April.  Surely would enjoy hearing that too.

    Also, check out "Second Stage."  New play (world premiere comedy) by Lynn Nottage.  Opens April 6.  I'm going.  Not sure when yet.


    Somehow I doubt you are really (none / 0) (#18)
    by ruffian on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 03:57:06 PM EST
    conflicted there!

    I like both! I save money in other ways...there is a bright side to being childless and dying alone.


    No question kids are expensive! (none / 0) (#19)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 04:01:20 PM EST
    And I fully anticipating dying alone.  But happy.

    I don't mean to imply I planned it that way (none / 0) (#20)
    by ruffian on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 04:10:53 PM EST
    iToys, or kids? Hmmmmm....

    Just worked out that way and making the best of it.


    it's the first one (none / 0) (#21)
    by Jeralyn on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 04:55:00 PM EST
    I don't see any reason to get the new one (and it's not out yet.) I love the iPad and use it constantly. I also take it everywhere. I rarely take my laptop anywhere anymore. It's great for watching TV and movies too.

    You've convinced me (none / 0) (#22)
    by Slado on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 04:56:14 PM EST
    Luddite, pretty much describes me..... (none / 0) (#28)
    by vml68 on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 06:10:19 PM EST
    Having said that, my husband got an Ipad through work and after using it, I was hooked.

    Im getting one (none / 0) (#23)
    by Capt Howdy on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 04:57:52 PM EST
    just for the slingbox function.  well not just but mostly

    Collective Bargaining polls (none / 0) (#9)
    by Slado on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 02:41:38 PM EST
    Amazing how two polls can have completely different results.

    I'm always amazed how the way a question is asked dramatically affects the results.  Nothing to say for who they ask and who they sample.



    Except (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by christinep on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 05:03:08 PM EST
    that Gallup, Pew, NBC/WSJ, and now--ta da--the R Rasmussen show strikingly similar results: Support unions & collective bargaining, agree that the teachers, etc. could pay into the pension/health system a bit more (something that they have already said they would do), and typically do not agree that budgets should be balanced on the backs of teachers & public employees.

    oops. Add CBS/NYTimes w/similar results too. (none / 0) (#29)
    by christinep on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 07:08:47 PM EST
    How do you feel about Rassmussen? (none / 0) (#25)
    by Harry Saxon on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 05:03:20 PM EST

    A new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Wisconsin voters shows that just 39% favor weakening collective bargaining rights and 52% are opposed. At the same time, 44% support a 10% pay cut for all state workers. Thirty-eight percent (38%) are opposed. That's partly because 27% of Wisconsin voters believe state workers are paid too much and 16% believe they are paid too little. Forty-nine percent (49%) believe the pay of state workers is about right. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

    Click or Excoriate Me


    the fake Rahm Emanuel tweetster (none / 0) (#17)
    by Capt Howdy on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 03:48:14 PM EST
    paid 5 large to come out.

    the tweets are pretty funny.

    And though Sinker's tweets were usually expletive-laden, Emanuel admitted, "He expressed my sentiments exactly."

    Who will play Jeralyn in the movie? (none / 0) (#27)
    by Tony on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 05:50:12 PM EST
    Just read that they are making a film based on the story of a member of Tim McVeigh's defense team.  Directed by Barry Levinson, no lightweight.  I hope it's good.

    slashfilm (none / 0) (#35)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Mar 04, 2011 at 09:40:23 AM EST
    Deadline says the film is written by Clay Wold, whose brother was on the McVeigh defense team, and that "he clerk's determination to expose the truth led to a bigger conspiracy and nearly destroyed the young man."

    I'm going to say one thing: if this movie has any intent to clear the name of Timothy McVeigh or otherwise shift blame from him to someone else, it will be infuriating beyond belief. But that probably (hopefully) isn't the intent.

    Deadline's article mentions the goal of the film involving "the real circumstances" behind the bombing, and given that the screenwriter's brother was on the McVeigh defense team I suspect that the `real circumstances' involve one of two oft-cited theories about the bombing: that McVeigh was involved with a far-right white supremacist group, or that there were Middle Eastern ties to the bombing. Both theories are tied to circumstantial evidence and lines of official inquiry that were begun then closed down during the investigation into the bombing.

    Timothy McVeigh is exactly the sort of guy a lot of people would like to forget. A white, small-town, military kid who believed in small government, he could have been a Tea Partier right up until that point where he massacred his fellow citizens. But if he can be tied to a Middle Eastern group it would all be OK, because ultimately it would all be the fault of `regular' terrorists, right? (Shudder.) Needless to say, we'll be following this one. I'm very curious to see how it turns out.

    btw (none / 0) (#42)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Mar 04, 2011 at 11:27:17 AM EST
    was that a joke?  was Jeralyn involved in the defense or is that a reference to her tireless defense of defendants and their rights.

    Our fine hostess... (none / 0) (#43)
    by kdog on Fri Mar 04, 2011 at 11:36:45 AM EST
    represented the man, you bet.

    I was thinking Diane Lane could play her in the film.


    I had no idea. (none / 0) (#44)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Mar 04, 2011 at 11:48:32 AM EST
    I suggest Jaime Murray   

    Senate orders arrest of missing Democrats (none / 0) (#30)
    by Babel 17 on Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 07:18:32 PM EST
    http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_8d9ad090-45bd-11e0-bf68-001cc4c0328 6.html

    Sounds like a nasty task for whoever gets assigned to do it. Maybe they can refuse as the legality is shaky?

    Removing asbestos (none / 0) (#34)
    by Harry Saxon on Fri Mar 04, 2011 at 09:27:27 AM EST
    pays better than being a skinhead, apparently.

    And removing asbestos... (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by kdog on Fri Mar 04, 2011 at 09:49:22 AM EST
    is less toxic.

    Okay, Dog (none / 0) (#45)
    by Zorba on Fri Mar 04, 2011 at 11:54:29 AM EST
    Great line.  I wish I could rate this a "10."  ;-)

    something I have believed (none / 0) (#36)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Mar 04, 2011 at 09:42:35 AM EST
    for many years.  based on simple observation

    Are the long nights and financial burdens of parenting really worth the emotional benefits? New research is saying no: When confronted with the real economic costs of having children, most parents will exaggerate their happiness to validate their choice to have children.

    "Many people believe that to be truly fulfilled in life, it is necessary to experience the joys of parenthood. Children are considered an essential source of happiness, satisfaction, and pride,"  Richard Eibach and Steven Mock of the University of Waterloo, wrote of their study in the March 2 issue of the journal Psychological Science. "However, the idea that parenthood involves substantial emotional rewards appears to be something of a myth."

    All of my childless by choice friends (none / 0) (#39)
    by oculus on Fri Mar 04, 2011 at 10:49:47 AM EST
    would agree.  But, then, they have many opinions on raising children!

    whatcha mean (none / 0) (#40)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Mar 04, 2011 at 11:01:08 AM EST
    many options?

    I thought the part was interesting that talked about the difference placed on the "joy" between groups depending on if cost or reward was discussed.
    it always seemed to people were trying to convince themselves how wonderful it was more than anyone else.

    dont get me wrong.  Im sure parenthood is a wondrous thing.  just not what its cracked up to be.
    and it always galled me that childless people, like me, were often expected to have less of a life than people with children.  I reject that idea.  my home time is just as valuable as anyones.


    in the work place (none / 0) (#41)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Mar 04, 2011 at 11:18:04 AM EST
    I mean.  at least that is my experience.

    March is (none / 0) (#38)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Mar 04, 2011 at 10:09:01 AM EST
    Colon Cancer Awareness Month!

    (Lookin' Up My) Back Door

    wow (none / 0) (#46)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Mar 04, 2011 at 12:44:11 PM EST
    The Someone You're Not (none / 0) (#47)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Mar 04, 2011 at 04:21:05 PM EST
    Our packed prisons are starting to disgorge hundreds of mostly African-America men who, over the last few decades, we wrongly convicted of violent crimes. This is what it's like to spend nearly thirty years in prison for something you didn't do. This is what it's like to spend nearly thirty years as someone you aren't. And for Ray Towler, this is what it's like to be free.