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    Brady played with a chip on his shoulder (5.00 / 0) (#2)
    by MKS on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 06:39:26 PM EST
    which is not uncommon....

    But Brady looked like he had had enough of Tebow time....and he wanted to show the upstart a thing or two.

    You all, in a few short comments (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by ruffian on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 06:59:19 PM EST
    have told me all I need to know about today in football. Thank you!!!

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    Michael Corleone (5.00 / 2) (#16)
    by NYShooter on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 07:55:23 PM EST
    "All family business was settled today."

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    Brady was great (none / 0) (#3)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 06:46:18 PM EST
    And the Broncos helped by (none / 0) (#22)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 08:23:47 PM EST
    what... 4 turnovers???

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    What happened to the Packers? (none / 0) (#5)
    by caseyOR on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 06:46:38 PM EST
    They lost to the Chiefs. A team that fielded the much vilified QB Kyle Orton. A team whose head coach has already been fired. A team helmed by temporary coach Romeo Crennel.  How did this happen?

    As an aside, for what should be painfully obvious reasons, I will have no comments on the Bears loss to, of all teams, the Seahawks. :-(

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    Yes, the Packers (none / 0) (#10)
    by Zorba on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 07:06:25 PM EST
    really scr*wed the pooch today.

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    Jennings on the bench (none / 0) (#19)
    by Towanda on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 08:10:40 PM EST
    with his injury was a big setback; he doesn't get enough attention (but who does, when there is Tebow?), as after all, Rogers can't both throw and catch the ball.

    But I await more post-mortems as to what happened to the rest of the offense today, with Rodgers' worst record of the season -- although he did top the TD record of that ex-QB we don't talk about, but he sure still tries to be the talk of the town.

    Crennel is getting a lot of credit from the Pack's analysts already for well-directed misdirection.  I want to see more reruns of some of those plays.

    Anyway:  Amazing, isn't it, that the Dolphins' record still stands, after three decades?  Looks like it will stand for a long time to come, too.

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    The very good but not great (none / 0) (#70)
    by brodie on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 12:22:34 PM EST
    Dolphins of 1972 played only a 14 game schedule and that against only two opponents with a record above .500, 9 of them below .500.  Iow one of the easiest paths to the SB in history.

    No wonder that record has held for this long.

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    Oh, and as for Finley (none / 0) (#20)
    by Towanda on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 08:13:04 PM EST
    it's fine with me if this shuts him up, at least for this week.  Four dropped passes in the first half?  Drop the 'tude, dude.

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    The Giants AND the Eagles (none / 0) (#56)
    by Yman on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 08:12:42 AM EST
    Actually, the whole NFC East has been completely inconsistent this whole season.  Might be one of those years where the division winner is 8-8 and it's not sorted out until the last game is played.

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    Big TV finale night (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by ruffian on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 07:02:57 PM EST
    In honor of the Survivor finale I prepared a dinner I called LambShank Redemption Island.  For the Dexter finale I will put the bone is a trash bad and throw it in the pond.

    And finally, for the Homeland finale, I will go off my meds, roll my eyes out of their sockets,  and seduce a Marine.

    Sounds like you have an interesting, albeit (none / 0) (#12)
    by caseyOR on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 07:18:36 PM EST
    unnerving, evening planned, ruffian. If you are still alive and coherent tomorrow, please let us know how it went.

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    The Homeland finale (none / 0) (#21)
    by Towanda on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 08:14:23 PM EST
    is going to be great but frustrating, leaving us hanging for months until the series returns, I predict.  But I'm grateful for a lot of good, gripping hours on my Sunday nights this fall.

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    Waiting for show to start (none / 0) (#24)
    by MKS on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 08:47:00 PM EST
    in 20 minutes here on West Coast.....

    Great show....Great acting....Claire Danes is riveting as agent consumed by her Ahab-like mania, when she is on her medication, and totally bonkers when she is not.

    I watched the last show twice, and the second time around listened to the substance of what she said rather than the manic cadences.....everything she said made sense and was right....Shows that the impression of being bonkers is solely because of Danes's performance.....Showcases the idea that true genius may be a bit bonkers....

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    I am very conflicted about Danes in this part (none / 0) (#40)
    by ruffian on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 11:19:44 PM EST
    I do find her riveting, but at the same time I find the character absolutely unbelievable. I don't believe there would ever be such a person at such a level in the CIA.  So while I'm riveted I am saying to myself 'this is total BS'. I don't know how much of it is Danes and how much is the writing.

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    Just as unlikley that (none / 0) (#41)
    by MKS on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 11:22:14 PM EST
    we would elect a homicidal maniac as Vice President who would control foreign policy.

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    Ha! Touché (none / 0) (#43)
    by ruffian on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 11:28:20 PM EST
    That part I have no problem believing.

    I guess I should be comforted to know that a CIA agent can hide a crippling mental issue from the bosses that have known her for years. All privacy is not lost.

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    Saul is the mole imo (none / 0) (#26)
    by MKS on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 08:52:23 PM EST
    He was failing his polygraph when he stopped it;  and there is something off with his wife......

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    Show's errors (none / 0) (#27)
    by MKS on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 09:03:42 PM EST
    They show Brody with a different number of stripes on his shoulders while in uniform: 3, 4 or 5.

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    Homeland, wow, that was (none / 0) (#35)
    by MKS on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 10:27:27 PM EST
    unsatisfying.  

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    I had a taping snafu....have not watched it yet (none / 0) (#38)
    by ruffian on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 11:14:32 PM EST
    Sorry I will be disappointed. I was happy with the Survivor outcome though.

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    OK, watched it. I see what you mean. (none / 0) (#89)
    by ruffian on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 08:33:03 PM EST
    Hmmmmm...so how do they posit that Nazir knew it was the VP that gave the order? I guess we still do not know who the mole was.

    And the very end....really bad.

    Damian Lewis rocks, however. Will weigh the pros and cons before deciding to invest any time in Season 2.

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    He is good (none / 0) (#90)
    by MKS on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 08:48:35 PM EST
    He was so much the All American hero in Band of Brothers....and here really captures edge of creepy.

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    Holy Frankenf*** (none / 0) (#30)
    by ruffian on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 09:16:57 PM EST
    This is going to be really bad for Deb's luck in love.

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    now its on to January (none / 0) (#57)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 09:00:23 AM EST
    and the return of Spartacus.  

    ps
    I, for some reason, recorded the entire season of Dexter and have not found the time to watch it.  looking forward to it over the holidays.  and the other series I am excited about is American Horror Story.  it was nominated for a Golden Globe.  really hope it wins.

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    Wish I had watched American Horror Story (none / 0) (#67)
    by ruffian on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 10:42:40 AM EST
    Maybe I will be able to catch up on reruns.

    Not the best season of Dexter, but it wrapped up in an interesting way!

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    Pretty much as expected... (5.00 / 0) (#8)
    by Addison on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 07:03:14 PM EST
    If you don't have an offense capable of putting up 30+ points on anyone, and Brady and his TEs are clicking, it's hopeless.

    It's weird, because the Patriots are a very vulnerable team against certain kinds of teams. Denver is the exact opposite of that kind of team.

    Tonight's dinner. (5.00 / 2) (#13)
    by caseyOR on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 07:24:04 PM EST
    My mom and sister arrive tomorrow on Amtrak's Empire Builder, and we are then driving over to the Oregon Coast for the holidays. So, I must consume the last vestiges of foodstuffs in my fridge.

    In service to that end, tonight's dinner will feature savoy cabbage sautéed with onions and garlic and the last remaining bits of bacon, served over brown basmati rice. Also, there is an open bottle of red wine, from the Languedoc region of France, that I must finish off tonight.

    you poor thing n/t (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by The Addams Family on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 09:12:38 PM EST
    yum (none / 0) (#33)
    by ZtoA on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 09:59:55 PM EST
    Hope you have a great holiday. Oregon coast is beautiful. Not as craggy and forsaken as northern California - more beaches and fewer cliffs - but still, a wild, lost, endless feel. Less exotic than the sound further north. Great tide pools at Cannon Beach and a really nice artist community at Manzanita. Hope you have a nice time at the coast! You should have some good (as in, not horrid) weather.

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    I'll be happy if the pavement on 26W is (none / 0) (#34)
    by caseyOR on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 10:17:58 PM EST
    dry all the way to the coast. I hate the thought of having to put chains on the car somewhere in the Coast Range. And it looks like it will be dry.

    December has been so dry. If this keeps up we will break the record for least amount of rain in December, a record that dates back to the late 1800s.

    The long-range forecast is calling for a very, very wet January-March. And I'm okay with that. Give me dry weather through the end of this year, and it can pour for those three months in 2012. I support a heavy snowpack. I just would prefer that it not mess with my plans. :-)

    I love the Oregon coast. It is so different depending on where you are. In Southern Oregon, Bandon and Gold Beach are nothing like Yachats and Newport on the central coast, which are different from Cannon Beach on the north coast.

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    Hopefully (none / 0) (#39)
    by CoralGables on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 11:19:34 PM EST
    you'll get the perfect weather for spouting horns as you pass the small bridge across Depoe Bay harbor.

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    From Philadelphia (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by Peter G on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 07:52:22 PM EST
    How 'bout dem Iggles?

    Yo! (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by NYShooter on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 09:04:16 PM EST
    you won, no need fer dat

    now slither away.

    :)

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    That was brutal... (none / 0) (#73)
    by kdog on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 12:40:29 PM EST
    the annual get blown out after Jim Leonhard goes down game.  

    Amazingly we still control our own playoff destiny...just gotta beat the G-Men and the Fish.  

    F*ckin' Eagles might win their division, talk about back from the dead...another crazy season going down to the wire.

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    I'm a Jets fan next week (none / 0) (#74)
    by Yman on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 01:01:53 PM EST
    The only way the Eagles can get to the playoffs is if Big Blue loses to the Jets next week and beats the Cowboys the following week - and, of course, if they (Eagles) win their last two games.  They would win the NFC East at 8-8 ... go figure.

    Not much of a chance, but you never know.

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    I like your squad's chances... (5.00 / 1) (#81)
    by kdog on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 02:14:36 PM EST
    they looked good yesterday, fumbles aside.  Winning out looks very possible.

    And the Jets simply have to beat the Giants next week.  If anything we will sh*t the bed against the Dolphins.

    Then Romo and the 'Boys in a Week 17 playoff game?  I don't see that happening.

    Ladies and Germs your 2011 NFC East Champion Eagles!

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    I don't like them or what (none / 0) (#25)
    by MKS on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 08:49:58 PM EST
    Landry called the "Gints"....

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    I'm very happy (none / 0) (#45)
    by lilburro on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 11:50:43 PM EST
    excited for a not so relaxing but very festive evening of yelling at the television on Christmas Eve.

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    Kim Jong Il is dead (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by The Addams Family on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 09:57:18 PM EST
    was it the panthers?

    Great Leaders (none / 0) (#36)
    by markw on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 10:53:25 PM EST
    Looks like it's a bit day for the other Great Leader too.  Gingrich falling like a stone in Iowa

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    whoops (none / 0) (#37)
    by markw on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 10:53:49 PM EST
    Mean to say "bad day"

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    So, does it matter the Chargers (5.00 / 0) (#42)
    by oculus on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 11:22:58 PM EST
    won?  (Not to me.)

    Saw disc one of HBO "Angels in America."  What a cast.

    Now listening to Humperdinck's "Hansel and Gretel" on KUSC FM.  Fun.  

    AIA is amazing (5.00 / 1) (#59)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 09:02:48 AM EST
    I watch it when I just want to feel better.  Streep is astonishing.  have you seen her as the ancient Rabbi yet?

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    Yes. At the opening funeral. (none / 0) (#66)
    by oculus on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 10:30:24 AM EST
    Loved that HBO 'Angels' (none / 0) (#44)
    by ruffian on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 11:30:52 PM EST
    The big names got the kudos, and they deserved them, but I liked Justin Kirk the best.

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    Al Pacino as Roy Cohn. Terrific. The (5.00 / 0) (#46)
    by oculus on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 12:18:38 AM EST
    actor in the stage production I just saw was kind of a caricature.  Meryl Streep is excellent so far.  The actor playing Belize is a lot more subtle than the actor in the staged production.  

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    Streep has more than one (5.00 / 1) (#47)
    by caseyOR on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 12:59:01 AM EST
    part in the HBO production. She is excellent in both.

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    Exactly (none / 0) (#48)
    by oculus on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 01:29:47 AM EST
    i think Streep played 4 parts, no? (none / 0) (#49)
    by The Addams Family on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 01:32:34 AM EST
    Hannah Pitt, Ethel Rosenberg, the rabbi, & the angel Australia

    again, excellent in all of them

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    One actress playing those four parts (5.00 / 1) (#61)
    by Peter G on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 09:22:53 AM EST
    is how Tony Kushner wrote it.

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    Yes, Streep did play those four (none / 0) (#50)
    by caseyOR on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 01:48:16 AM EST
    parts.

    Tonight on 60 Minutes Morley Safer interviewed Streep. The interview seemed to be part of the PR for Streep's new movie about Margaret Thatcher. They showed clips from the movie. It is quite startling how very much like Thatcher Streep looks in the movie.

    She was completely charming when talking with Safer. She seems like a lovely woman.

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    I heard her described once as 'merry' (5.00 / 0) (#55)
    by ruffian on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 06:01:11 AM EST
    It seems to fit.  

    Can't add muh else- of course she is a favorite and I'll see anything she is in!

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    "lovely woman" (5.00 / 1) (#60)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 09:06:14 AM EST
    IMO that is the secret of her success.  it comes through in every character she plays.  from the cranky nun in Doubt to Ethel Rosenberg to her hilarious turn in Death Becomes Her.

    she is a treasure.

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    You know, many actors (none / 0) (#83)
    by NYShooter on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 03:19:59 PM EST
    have played disparate roles, but, in my non-expert opinion, most seem to "force" those roles.

    Streep, on the other hand: You hand her a script, and she "becomes" the person she's portraying.

    "she is a treasure?"

    She certainly is.


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    Seasons Greetings to all. (5.00 / 3) (#65)
    by caseyOR on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 09:41:10 AM EST
    I will shortly hit the road for a Christmas trip and will be off-line for several days. So, before I go I want to wish everyone here at TL a very happy holiday, be that Chanukkah or Christmas or Kwanzaa or a very personal holiday that you made up for yourself.

    Have fun. Be safe. Surround yourself with love and joy and laughter.

    Unlike many sites, TL is, for me at least, like an on-line family. Oh sure, sometimes we squabble. And we have our share of characters (what family doesn't?). Still, as much as is possible in a virtual setting where most of us use fake names, the TL community is caring and kind and supportive. I am so glad I found this place.

     TL is the very best political, criminal defense,sports, cooking and TV critiquing site anywhere on the intertoobz.

    I just left a comment (none / 0) (#1)
    by Zorba on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 06:39:00 PM EST
    on the Saturday Afternoon Open Thread, BTD.  Denver got clocked by the Patriots.  And my son calls the Broncos the "Denver Tebows," and not in a positive way.   ;-)

    So, will Tebow have the integrity (5.00 / 3) (#14)
    by Peter G on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 07:51:34 PM EST
    to say that Jesus wanted him and his team to lose, perhaps to teach them some humility?

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    LOL! (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by Zorba on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 08:03:18 PM EST
    No, no, Peter.  Obviously, Tebow ticked off the Flying Spaghetti Monster, who touched him with his noodly appendage.  And not in a good way.      ;-)

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    Hey, in Maryland (5.00 / 0) (#31)
    by sj on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 09:57:06 PM EST
    Snark right? (none / 0) (#18)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 08:08:00 PM EST
    Muy astuto (none / 0) (#23)
    by Peter G on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 08:30:29 PM EST
    Brady was unbelievable (none / 0) (#4)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 06:46:34 PM EST
    Yes, he was (none / 0) (#11)
    by Zorba on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 07:09:41 PM EST
    What has yet to be seen is if Tebow has the chops to become a great quarterback, or if his previous successes are due to the fact that the Denver defense has come a long way this season.  (Obviously, not today, but it is just one day.)

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    Tebow did his job (none / 0) (#9)
    by richj25 on Sun Dec 18, 2011 at 07:05:47 PM EST
    The offense put up 23, which is respectable for a
    ball control offense. We still need a few more
    playmakers on the defense to stop a team like the
    Patriots.

    waiting for the Muslim (none / 0) (#58)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 09:01:34 AM EST
    Tebow here.  cant wait for the reception to that.

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    Question (none / 0) (#63)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 09:29:53 AM EST
    Q: What's the difference between Tim Tebow and Barack Obama?

    A: One is a phony messiah who fooled a bunch of people after a couple of convincing performances in Denver.

    The other plays football


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    a (5.00 / 0) (#85)
    by Addison on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 03:54:55 PM EST
    Even within the hack genre of unfunny, on-the-nose "political" jokes, this one is pretty lame.

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    You first. (none / 0) (#88)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 04:23:11 PM EST
    great day for football (none / 0) (#62)
    by CST on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 09:23:20 AM EST
    the patriots win!

    and the packers lost.

    Pats won about as I expected (none / 0) (#68)
    by brodie on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 10:49:49 AM EST
    -- by their offense outscoring Denver's.  Pats offense will be tough to stop so long as they continue to spread the wealth around, espec to their tight ends.

    Tough break for the Pack but it might improve their chances to repeat as SB champs.  Carrying an undefeated record for too long seems to be more of a burden than not.  I just wish they'd lost to a team other than the Chefs, whose ownership I've never liked.

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    this game reminded me a little of (none / 0) (#75)
    by CST on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 01:09:34 PM EST
    the Bears game last year.  Sometimes watching the Pats every week you lose sight of how good they really are.  Especially when you see the defense struggle, and they lose a few games.  Brady is capable of struggling every once in a while, so you can forget the fact that on an average day he's one of the best.

    Sometimes you (me) get caught up in the hype of another team, since you haven't really seen them play yet.

    In the early years of Pats dominance there was an arrogance associated with being a fan.  That was checked in 2007, and now it's like every time the team is playing well you (me) are just waiting for the axe to fall.  But most of the time, it doesn't fall.  Because they are still really freaking good.

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    Pat's D came around after horrible 1st Q (none / 0) (#64)
    by BobTinKY on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 09:35:38 AM EST
    Brady & Hernandez were great and the Bronco's helped when needed tih penalties and fumbles.

    Really liking Pat's running back Ridley.

    and now (none / 0) (#69)
    by CoralGables on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 12:01:23 PM EST
    for the rest of the story of the end of
    Tim Tebow's day

    I may have no interest in his religion, but he is one hell of a damn fine human being.

    That's (none / 0) (#72)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 12:35:44 PM EST
    a positive story on Tebow though I don't think that "polarizing" is really a good description of him. At least he backs up some of his stuff with works unlike a lot of other evangelicals.

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    From the file (none / 0) (#71)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 12:31:02 PM EST
    of I told you so:
    Newt Gingrich implodes in IA

    Even funnier is Ron Paul is rising. Maybe the rank and file is even sick of the Neocons?

    And with (none / 0) (#77)
    by jbindc on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 01:29:39 PM EST
    The endorsement of the state's 2 largest newspapers, why are folks fighting so hard to see what's been obvious fir 2 years?  That Mitt will be the nominee?

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    because Mitt Romney (none / 0) (#78)
    by CST on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 01:44:09 PM EST
    is bo.ring.

    And it's way more fun to watch the loonies scramble between Trump, Cain, Newt, etc... than it is to talk about the fact that the Republicans will probably end up nominating a life-size version of a Ken doll for president.  Although I would expect them to be more happy with a doll.  Afterall, you can make him do whatever you want.

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    Right (none / 0) (#79)
    by jbindc on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 01:49:04 PM EST
    And the Left has certainly been instrumental in the pushing of the crazies.

    Boring isn't necessarily a bad thing to many voters.

    And hey, we've already got that - Obama is also one that you can get him to do whatever you want too (if you're a member of the Republican leadership, that is).

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    not buying it (none / 0) (#80)
    by CST on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 02:02:29 PM EST
    "pushing"?  If you mean we keep talking about them, sure, but I believe when they are polling likely voters in a republican primary, or raising money, I seriously doubt that is coming from the left.  We aren't the ones supporting these people in the polls, and they do keep getting support.  But if you want to think the rabid right is a vast left wing conspiracy, go for it.  Jim sure is working his little heart out to proove you wrong.

    Your third paragraph was very predictable.  Needless to say, I don't agree.  But hey, don't we all just not hate Mitt!

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    Hilarious comment (none / 0) (#87)
    by jbindc on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 04:21:31 PM EST
    That was a tremendous leap of logic you made there - bravo!

    Please prove to me where the crazy of the week was not being pushed as "ooh - scary!" in left-wing circles - Rachel Maddow, Huff Po, TPM, Kos,  Digby, even this site etc,. (How many posts and comments have been about scary Sarah Palin!, even after it was long clear [circa November 2008] that her political career was done?)

    Of course, what you missed is the fact that it is not a mutually exclusive proposition that while the crazies on the right were generating interest among their base and pushing the flavor of the week, as always happens in a long primary season with a horse race, so was the left.

    I never said it was a "vast left wing conspiracy", but there's that leap of logic again.  But even you cannot deny that it is in the Democrats' best interest to keep pushing the crazies.  I'm going to go out on a limb here (well, not really, since there already is a history of it) and say there will be many crossover Democrats going to vote in the upcoming primaries.

    And my third paragraph was "predictable", as you put it, well, because it's true.  

    Thanks for the laugh your comment provided - I needed a good chuckle at the end of the day!

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    Mitt is not a good enough actor on too many levels (none / 0) (#82)
    by ruffian on Mon Dec 19, 2011 at 03:11:19 PM EST
    They don't trust that he really believes their nutjob policy positions. He has not been able to convince them of that.

    Plus, they have spent 30 years convincing themselves that their filthy rich northeastern and Californian pols are really down home Texan cowboys. Reagan pulled it off by virtue of being a professional actor. Apart from some wardrobe changes, Mitt isn't even trying to act the part.

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    and my younger son's team lost in OT to the best team in the league. Until the Giants decide to show up for a freakin' game, that's the only football I'm interested in.

    Oh yeah, remember Ahnold's love child?

    Turns out he went to my kids' schools (grade and middle school) up until about a year or so ago. He was a year ahead my oldest.

    Can't say I ever met him or his mom, though that would have been pretty interesting in hindsight...