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Time Person of the Year: The Protester

Good call by Time Magazine. The 2011 person of the year is The Protester.

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    I like the dog. (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by Mr Natural on Sat Dec 17, 2011 at 10:20:31 AM EST


    Meaning (none / 0) (#1)
    by koshembos on Sat Dec 17, 2011 at 02:14:47 AM EST
    What does it mean to be the person of the year? The Egyptian protestors will go into history. Egypt will probably will change very little with the Muslim Brotherhood. Our OWS started a world wide protest against the 21st century form of oppression. We discovered that we are not a democracy anymore. Again, we saw the ruling 1% using force to continue their domination over most of us.

    What does it mean to be the person of the year?

    Here is the source of the... (none / 0) (#3)
    by desertswine on Sat Dec 17, 2011 at 11:36:37 AM EST
    oops (none / 0) (#4)
    by The Addams Family on Sat Dec 17, 2011 at 01:32:31 PM EST
    did OWS just succumb to Circular-Firing-Squad Syndrome?

    Did you read (none / 0) (#5)
    by NYShooter on Sat Dec 17, 2011 at 02:04:49 PM EST
    The entire article?
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    "The criticism of Trinity was coming not only from protesters, but even from some Episcopal priests and other Protestant clergy members.

    "Trinity Church had a fantastic opportunity to be a Christlike presence by openings its doors to the protesters," said the Rev. Milind Sojwal, the rector of All Angels Church, an Episcopal parish on the Upper West Side. "And I believe Trinity blew it."

    On Thursday, some church leaders and protesters brought a Nativity scene to Trinity's main entrance on Broadway, with a sign attached. "There was no room for them in the inn," it read in part. "Trinity has plenty of room."


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    yes, of course (none / 0) (#6)
    by The Addams Family on Sat Dec 17, 2011 at 02:50:13 PM EST
    i read the entire article - i don't see how the portions you've quoted make my original question irrelevant (if that's what you're suggesting)

    if find it rather feckless of OWS to be bickering with a church that has been a supporter instead of, you know, actually occupying the headquarters of Goldman, Chase, et al., or even Wall Street itself instead of a nearby park

    but we may well disagree on this - see also, if you're interested, my links in previous threads to questions about OWS raised by working people & other residents of Oakland, where i live

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    Not irrelevant at all, (none / 0) (#7)
    by NYShooter on Sat Dec 17, 2011 at 03:23:05 PM EST
     But not completely thorough either.

    Look, I find it somewhat distasteful to nit pic and bicker regarding all the inevitable minutia inherent to a huge, spread out, experimental movement such as OWS is conducting. Neither you, nor I, are privy to all the facts necessary in discussing intelligently the various pros and cons of this movement.

    The important thing is, we both are on the same side; we oppose the current tyranny of the 1%, and we both wish for a more humane, fair, and "optimistic" future for our posterity.

    There is nothing wrong with pointing out what you perceive as strategic, or tactical, mistakes OWS sometimes makes. I, simply view things through a different prism than you, or some others, do.

    I said before that one of the tactics OWS is using is to to put Democracy to a test. Are we living under freedom, or simply the illusion, the patina, of freedom? Would Christ have resorted to the meally mouthed pretext  the NYC Church is resorting to to deny these people sanctuary?

    My guess is that helping the down trodden is a wonderful concept....until it becomes, you know, uncomfortable.

    Like you, I find many things about OWS I don't fully understand. But, as a supporter, I will not try to micro manage my support, and extend it, or retrieve it based on them satisfying my concept of what I think they should be doing.

    In my long business career, and in full agreement with Warren Buffet regarding successful management philosophy: "Find someone that shares your goals and policies, and whom you trust....then walk away and let him/her do their job.  


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    the thing is, (none / 0) (#8)
    by The Addams Family on Sat Dec 17, 2011 at 06:10:42 PM EST
    i have not found it appropriate to "walk away" & let the Occupy protesters do "their" job

    for one thing, i have been involved in Occupy here in my own community (Oakland), where Occupy has really been biting it lately

    for another, even if i had not been involved locally, Occupy & OWS do speak for me in many respects, & so i do not regard what they are doing as "their" job alone

    you characterize my comments as nitpicking & bickering & micromanaging, & i find your take on OWS rather quaintly Romantic

    people on the same side of the Occupy phenomenon can disagree on tactics, especially when such disagreement has some basis in on-the-ground experience with the Occupy phenom

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