Wednesday Night Open Thread

Really long day at work -- just getting home, haven't seen the news and I'm going to watch the X-Factor and Harry's Law and call it a night.

Here's an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    I'd rather this not be news, but, (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by oculus on Wed Nov 16, 2011 at 09:16:28 PM EST
    unfortunately, it is.  Stimulus, I suppose.

    LAT re Massive Ordnance Penetrator

    Best of all, these (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by Mr Natural on Wed Nov 16, 2011 at 10:25:51 PM EST
    penile shortfall compensators are cheap at only $15 Million apiece.

    Preview of What We are Going to Drop (none / 0) (#32)
    by ScottW714 on Thu Nov 17, 2011 at 08:52:24 AM EST
     ... on Iran ?

    Anybody see this (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by me only on Wed Nov 16, 2011 at 09:53:42 PM EST

    Oh, this really burns me.  People seriously can't take a day and not shop?  Really?  As if being a retail worker during the holiday season wasn't bad enough, now open on Thanksgiving.

    Newt (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by CoralGables on Wed Nov 16, 2011 at 10:29:21 PM EST
    comes out on top in another poll. On Monday it was PPP and today FOX

    Before (none / 0) (#33)
    by ScottW714 on Thu Nov 17, 2011 at 09:02:19 AM EST
    His consulting firm took money from Freddie Mac while preaching how Freddie and Fanny used funds to influence politicians.

    It's over a million bucks.  Conservative may not care if you are smart, know where Russia is, like to degrade women, or have a ranch called something racial.  But they will not put up with anyone with ties to Freddie.


    Yes, but conservatives are (5.00 / 1) (#35)
    by KeysDan on Thu Nov 17, 2011 at 09:35:19 AM EST
    enamored by Newt's social positions.  Newt apparently believes, for example, that marriage is between a man and a woman who is healthy.

    Tornadoes in my town today. (5.00 / 2) (#10)
    by jeffinalabama on Wed Nov 16, 2011 at 10:47:34 PM EST
    Am i a tornado magnet? second town this year i live in to get hit. nobody killed in this tornado, though, but a trailer park was evacuated because of damage, gas leaks, trees down, etc...

    geez. If tornadoes happen in Romania or Colombia after i get there, then it's me, not global warming!

    70' Black Locust (5.00 / 2) (#25)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Nov 17, 2011 at 07:55:12 AM EST
    down across drive and yard into privacy hedge...

    Had to fire up the trusty chain saw and cut out the portion across the driveway.. To wet to do any cleanup work....

    So I did the logical thing, took off for a poker tournament.

    First things first I always say.


    too wet (none / 0) (#26)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Nov 17, 2011 at 07:56:06 AM EST
    too knuckled headed this AM

    We had warnings (none / 0) (#12)
    by Amiss on Wed Nov 16, 2011 at 11:09:06 PM EST
    of tornadoes for hours, went outside and calm as it could be. But here in Kings Bay, anything puts us on high alert, and I do mean anything.

    No tornados, but high winds. (none / 0) (#15)
    by caseyOR on Thu Nov 17, 2011 at 12:10:16 AM EST
    Gusts of 60-70 MPH. The trees just outside my apartment are being slammed around something fierce.  Also, lots of rain.

    We had (none / 0) (#23)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Nov 17, 2011 at 06:08:44 AM EST
    tornado warnings here too but I don't think any hit.

    dirty f'in hippie - tell her to get a f'in job! (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by Edger on Thu Nov 17, 2011 at 07:12:43 AM EST
    Eighty-four-year-old activist Dorli Rainey spoke to Countdown host Keith Olbermann on Wednesday night after being pepper sprayed by police the previous night during an "Occupy Seattle" protest.

    The protest was formed in downtown Seattle in solidarity with "Occupy Wall Street" after it was raided by authorities. Police claimed they gave warnings to protesters for blocking streets during rush hour before trying to disperse them

    Rainey said the protesters had decided to leave the intersection, and that police almost certainly knew this because of the protester's "people's microphone" method of communication. But before they could leave, police moved in and fired pepper spray at the crowd.
    Rainey, who grew up in Nazi Germany, expressed her displeasure with the mainstream American media, who only reported "soft, fluff entertainment" instead of hard-hitting news.
    "It would be so easy to say, `Well I'm going to retire, I'm going to sit around, watch television or eat bonbons,' but somebody's got to keep 'em awake and let 'em know what is really going on in this world," Rainey said.

    -- video at RawStory

    Open question. (none / 0) (#2)
    by Addison on Wed Nov 16, 2011 at 09:48:17 PM EST
    At what point do left-oriented voters decide that the federal government has lost it's ability to get anything of worth done -- including progressive reforms and laws -- and start to move towards devolution of power/taxation and a "states' rights" ideology?

    Not "it's" -- "its" (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by Addison on Wed Nov 16, 2011 at 09:49:38 PM EST
    Why doesn't Google Chrome autocorrect grammar!?!

    Ditto for Firefox (none / 0) (#34)
    by ScottW714 on Thu Nov 17, 2011 at 09:07:43 AM EST
    And the answer to your question, when the bomb-makers decide the planet is flat enough, aka never.

    As soon as the scariest state (5.00 / 2) (#8)
    by andgarden on Wed Nov 16, 2011 at 10:26:39 PM EST
    less bad than the Federal government.

    I decided... (5.00 / 2) (#31)
    by kdog on Thu Nov 17, 2011 at 08:33:31 AM EST
    the federal government was hopelessly dysfunctional 'round 1998...just never figured out what to move towards...I just gave up on representation in government.

    Then OWS hit the scene, and giving up didn't seem like the only play anymore.


    Never (none / 0) (#4)
    by jimakaPPJ on Wed Nov 16, 2011 at 09:50:48 PM EST
    as soon as the individual states prove (none / 0) (#22)
    by cpinva on Thu Nov 17, 2011 at 01:20:22 AM EST
    we should have remained under the articles of confederation. in other words, never.

    Penn State (none / 0) (#6)
    by markw on Wed Nov 16, 2011 at 10:23:23 PM EST
    A good NYT article on history of investigation into Sandusky.  According to the article, even coaches on other teams had heard rumors about Sandusky.  Supports the argument I made previously that it it is simply not believable that Paterno hand't heard about previous issues with Sandusky prior to 2002.

    Remember net neutrality? (none / 0) (#11)
    by jeffinalabama on Wed Nov 16, 2011 at 11:05:16 PM EST
    Another over-reach by congress coming to the internet soon.

    Have I mentioned lately (5.00 / 0) (#18)
    by sj on Thu Nov 17, 2011 at 12:33:42 AM EST
    that I hate these people?

    I'll see your net neutrality and raise you (none / 0) (#16)
    by Mr Natural on Thu Nov 17, 2011 at 12:19:06 AM EST
    Our DOJ trying to criminalize lying on the internet!

    lying about your age, lying about your weight, it's all good for a persecution in Jailkeeper-in-Chief Obama's postmodern world.


    Saw that earlier today (none / 0) (#19)
    by nycstray on Thu Nov 17, 2011 at 12:49:34 AM EST
    I used to think the only think I could get arrested/ticket for was jaywalking. OY, so what if I add a few pounds on my weight!

    But wait! I added those same pounds on when I got my ID. Does that make my online weight legal?  ;)


    I added weight too, but that was (5.00 / 0) (#20)
    by observed on Thu Nov 17, 2011 at 12:55:17 AM EST
    after my ID was issued. Does that make the issue of me losing a few pounds a federal case now?

    The same people who can't (none / 0) (#29)
    by jimakaPPJ on Thu Nov 17, 2011 at 08:01:33 AM EST
    develop an energy plan that will bring down the price of gasoline now want to screw up the Internet.

    Just what we need. Another Dept. of Energy.


    Watching the protesters attempting (none / 0) (#27)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Nov 17, 2011 at 07:58:41 AM EST
    to stop the ringing of the stock exchange bell.  It is already getting bad out there.  Will today be our day of sorrow?

    I said the other day that I thought we were headed into a horrible violence.  Our retired military intel guy said last night that in other countries in a situation such as the one we are in right now, if there is a highly organized strike against protesters such as the one we just witnessed....that the only place you can go after that is violence.  I had not shared with him my thoughts about it before he said that.  He has witnessed other countries though in similar situations go through the motions.  I think it is hard for most Americans to grasp that this can happen to us, but what makes us more special than any other nation?  Nothing.  In the wake of what is happening should we be more special, just swallow the take over by the ultra rich?  God forbid

    OWS protesters are "losers" ... (none / 0) (#28)
    by Yman on Thu Nov 17, 2011 at 08:00:30 AM EST
    ... (among other things) says Rep. Peter King.

    Another Republican who can't do math? (5.00 / 2) (#30)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Nov 17, 2011 at 08:25:30 AM EST
    How many of them?  How many of us?  Didn't he learn anything in Iraq either?  If you now start to kill us, it only breeds more of us no matter what you say from the podium in Qatar.  I know, in the Republican party ignorance is a virtue.

    I suppose David Petraeus will have to work some COIN on us, get a big big big chunk of change from the coffers and "create" some infrastructure projects and some jobs.  Oh yeah, and the troops will have to respect the people and highly esteem them to stop the breeding of insurgents.

    Living all of this in my own phucking country really really really helps me understand how stupid and/or corrupt every member of the Washington elite is :)


    COIN has been in place (5.00 / 0) (#36)
    by jeffinalabama on Thu Nov 17, 2011 at 01:28:20 PM EST
    here for years and years already, MT... let's thank dear Woody Wilson for giving it a jump start during the leadup to The Great War, just in time to dismantle the socialists, the anarchists, the IWW, etc...

    Sigh, some days there's just not enough rocks.