FOIA Documents Show Vast FBI Biometric Database Underway

By Jeralyn, Section Civil Liberties
Posted on Mon Nov 14, 2011 at 11:02:58 PM EST
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Secure Communities is not just about Homeland Security, ICE and immgrants. It's also about the FBI and you.

The latest information revealed in documents obtained through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit by the Center for Constitutional Rights and Benjamin Cardozo Immigrant Justice Clinic: The FBI “views massive biometric information collection as a goal in itself” as a part of the Next Generation Identification (NGI) system."

The NGI system aims to collect fingerprints, palm prints, iris scans, identifying marks, scars, tattoos, facial characteristics and voice recognition. These are not necessarily collected from arrested suspects but also from mobile biometric scanning devices and fingerprints left anywhere and everywhere.

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....Worse than the FBI accessing all your personal data, when NGI becomes fully operational in 2014, other federal agencies will gain access to the bio-data without your knowledge or consent.

The documents are here.

More analysis here.

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Note to my government (5.00 / 2) (#1)
by Romberry on Mon Nov 14, 2011 at 11:19:53 PM EST

George Orwell's 1984 was intended to be a warning, not a how-to guide.

This is Obama's (5.00 / 1) (#2)
by lentinel on Tue Nov 15, 2011 at 03:51:58 AM EST

FBI is it not?

He must believe in this kind of thing.

It further diminishes any expectation on my part that he would appoint any Justice to the Supreme Court that is uncomfortable with institutionalized repression of our civil liberties and civil rights.

: Not really (5.00 / 1) (#3)
by Edger on Tue Nov 15, 2011 at 06:04:12 AM EST

It's more that Obama is the FBI's president. The CIA's, too. Wall Street's, also. And the Pentagon's.
Certainly not yours.
You're allowed to protest this, but you cannot bring a tent or a sleeping bag. You can go to the park, but you have to sleep in the cold and the snow this winter. And forget about food.

Has anyone given any thought... (5.00 / 1) (#8)
by Mr Natural on Tue Nov 15, 2011 at 09:08:20 PM EST

... to just how dull this world will be if nobody can get away with anything?

Is this a bad thing? (none / 0) (#4)
by diogenes on Tue Nov 15, 2011 at 10:05:41 AM EST

"The NGI system aims to collect fingerprints, palm prints, iris scans, identifying marks, scars, tattoos, facial characteristics and voice recognition."

This makes it easier to solve crimes, removing criminals from the streets and thus decreasing recidivism.
This decreases the pressure to "solve unsolved crimes" with dodgy eyewitness evidence by increasing more objective evidence.

These are bad things?

Depends (5.00 / 1) (#5)
by Romberry on Tue Nov 15, 2011 at 10:25:53 AM EST

If you want to live in a surveillance society cum totalitarian state, these are good things. If not, they are bad. Ever hear of the East German Stasi? Americans used to know that giving over too much information and too much power to governments which governments then used to monitor and control their citizenry was inherently bad. Why don't you know this?


And, off course, (5.00 / 1) (#6)
by NYShooter on Tue Nov 15, 2011 at 02:58:40 PM EST

Why stop there?

Why not take this idea to its logical conclusion?

Simply inject all new borns with a computer chip itemizing all vital identifying characteristics, and emitting a gps signal to a national police data collecting center?

Ipso-Bingo, Crime eliminated forever more.

(What's the definition of a "slippery slope" again?)


: Big Brother (none / 0) (#7)
by Zorba on Tue Nov 15, 2011 at 05:42:18 PM EST

will be watching you. War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength. You will learn to love Big Brother. :-(

it's happening (5.00 / 1) (#9)
by womanwarrior on Tue Nov 15, 2011 at 09:26:48 PM EST

I had a young woman client, arrested after pretext search which revealed personal use marijuana and a pipe aka paraphernalia. She was ordered to report for fingerprinting and mug shot. They asked about tattoos, and when she admitted to them, basically had her disrobe to take pictures of all the tattoos. Now why don't people call their lawyers when this is happening?
