So is this line that you meant?

Remember Red, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies.

I knew 20+ years ago our "system" was not all that, when I was working manual labor, 40+ hours a week, sweating and exhausted when I got home to try to write, and I was NEVER, even living very low on the hog, able to have any financial security at all.  None.  I was always paycheck to paycheck, barely, and an emergency away from disaster.  I remember thinking, if people working hard as hell can't even be paid enough to cover living expenses and have a little left over, then what the hell are we all doing?

BTW, emailed Jeff last weekend, haven't heard back, so I'm a little concerned, you heard from him at all?

I mean seriously, you try to change the conversation in such an obvious way that it's tres amusing when it isn't ridiculously annoying.  Greece, EU, the S&P... you're sounding rather desperate here; throwing out topics like monkeys throw feces -- hoping something will stick.

Face it.  That's not what it's all about.  And you're not going to swing the issue.  No matter how much foam is dribbling down your chin.

That was a group of several hundred pilots who went to Wall Street on Tuesday to stage their own separate protest against their management. It elicited mostly admiration, nothing like the criticism that has been visited upon the Occupy Wall Street protestors, who are involved in a larger, more disparate and less tidy affair.

All they've got, really, is misdirection and a prayer that we won't notice what they're doing.

Here you are, standing on the outskirts huffing, and puffing. "hurry up!" ":Hurry up!" "Where is your list of demands?" "NO, no, a specific, comprehensive, coherent list of demands." "8½ x 11 paper, double spaced, Ariel font, bold italic lettering. "C'mon, c'mon what's the hold up?"

Lemme ask you, Angry, when the orchestra starts into a Brahms violin concerto, are you the guy in the back yelling, "Hurry up! Get to the point!" I bet, when you put a bagel into your micro, you yell at the door, what's taking so long? How long does it take to warm a bagel?"

...making decisions by consensus and without official leadership....On Monday night, the General Assembly of Occupy D.C. had a fairly quarrelsome debate about how to or whether or not to have a discussion about why they were there. Nonetheless, though debates may be taxing on one's patience they do get resolved and decisions do get made.

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."

It's wilful ignorance ABG is displaying.  And it always will be.

I can't believe that the Administration does not really know what is at the heart of this movement, and with more detail than offered by the early Tea Party.  As for any individual interviewee, certainly a Tea Party guy or two, may have had trouble coming up with a good answer to group concerns other than for the government to keep its hands off his Medicare.

From aljazeera english:

AJE: Can you explain, as simply as possible, the purpose of Occupy Wall Street? What statement are you making, and what does it mean to have a protest without a defined goal?

ET: Occupy Wall Street is a growing movement of people who came together for a lot of different reasons - it's pretty broad and there haven't been any explicitly stated demands, although implicitly, by being on Wall Street and by taking over the space and all the actions that have been coming out of it, it's people who are angry about the way that corporations and politics and money controls their lives and controls the way that they live and breath and function in society, and who have some sort of vision for a different world that exists outside of greed, racism, patriarchy, corporate power and political oppression.

MS: It's an expression of frustration at the feeling that the political process is being run by economic interests and by giant corporations in particular.

MM: When people use the word 'occupy' what they mean to say is: Bring the public into a role where they actually advance decision-making, most importantly the decision-making of our economic well-being. The way that the institutions operate in the type of society we live in, is not very conducive to high levels of democratic participation. I think often people feel disconnected. We have these elites in our society that really make us question whether we do indeed live in a democracy, or do we really live in a plutocracy - a country controlled by elites? In this case, the economic elite.

JAM: It should be reasonably clear to anyone who looks at what's going on at Occupy Wall Street that the goal is ending the corrupting influence of extreme wealth on democratic politics. I don't really buy that people don't understand what this is about. Wall Street controls America, and we oppose that.

Just because there aren't demands for a certain bill to be passed or a certain law to be repealed, that shouldn't make us believe that it is somehow un-unified or a meaningless gesture. The meaning is clear.

[Occupy Wall Street] is not only a political protest, but it's also a model society, which I think is the really interesting political protest - that it is itself the demand.

And stop with the Obama behind the them idiocy, he can't get behind the group protesting his financiers to re-election.  He's not part of the solution no matter how bad you want him to be, he is the problem.

Same illness quite prevalent on the Brand D side as well though...if we ever cured that one, imagine the numbers the protests would be garnering!