Perry Goes Birther

By Big Tent Democrat, Section Other Politics
Posted on Mon Oct 24, 2011 at 11:16:28 AM EST
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Via TPM, Perry does not even code his birther outreach:

[PARADE] Governor, do you believe that President Barack Obama was born in the United States?

[PERRY:] I have no reason to think otherwise.

[PARADE} That’s not a definitive, “Yes, I believe he”—

[PERRY: ]Well, I don’t have a definitive answer, because he’s never seen my birth certificate.

[PARADE]But you’ve seen his.

[PERRY:] I don’t know. Have I?

[PARADE:] You don’t believe what’s been released?

PERRY:]I don’t know. I had dinner with Donald Trump the other night. [. . .] That came up. [. . .] He doesn’t think it’s real.

[PARADE:] And you said?

[PERRY:] I don’t have any idea. It doesn’t matter. He’s the President of the United States. He’s elected. It’s a distractive issue.

Heh, distractive.

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Perry is an idiot. (5.00 / 3) (#1)
by Angel on Mon Oct 24, 2011 at 11:20:32 AM EST

A desperate (5.00 / 2) (#2)
by cal1942 on Mon Oct 24, 2011 at 11:28:14 AM EST

idiot, reaching out to lunatics.


Actually (none / 0) (#15)
by gyrfalcon on Mon Oct 24, 2011 at 12:53:45 PM EST

I don't think he's quite clever enough to be "reaching out." I think he genuinely hasn't followed any of this carefully and doesn't know it'll all been crashingly debunked.


I suspect that there was (none / 0) (#16)
by jondee on Mon Oct 24, 2011 at 12:59:43 PM EST

some mutual agreement beforehand that Parade would ask the question (perpetuate the meme), which Perry would then publicly downplay..


Mainstream media doesn't work that way (none / 0) (#42)
by gyrfalcon on Wed Oct 26, 2011 at 03:59:43 PM EST

Sorry, but it just doesn't.


not even at a place (none / 0) (#43)
by jondee on Wed Oct 26, 2011 at 04:07:59 PM EST

like, say, Fox?

I think you're a little naive.

But you also said, as I recall, that the choice of site and date of Beck's rally had nothing whatsoever to do with King's speech in the sixties..


If you want to count Fox (none / 0) (#44)
by gyrfalcon on Thu Oct 27, 2011 at 01:23:24 AM EST

as "mainstream media," you're in your own world and I can't help.


: Define mainstream (none / 0) (#47)
by jondee on Thu Oct 27, 2011 at 03:22:26 PM EST

do they have a completely different type of corporate sponsorship than other media outlets?

And yes, I think Beck didn't/doesn't (none / 0) (#45)
by gyrfalcon on Thu Oct 27, 2011 at 01:25:03 AM EST

have a clue when King made his speech. Neither did I, and most likely neither did you, nor did 99 percent of the country, including all the chattering pundits. If they dind't know and we didh't know, why on earth would you imagine an utter idiot living in a fantasy world like Beck know?


: Beck is part of his (none / 0) (#46)
by jondee on Thu Oct 27, 2011 at 03:20:42 PM EST

own little consortium. Take a look at one of his books: he usually has a "with help from" and a list of anywhere from five to ten co-authors. Just because they're nutcase ideologues doesn't mean they don't talk to a lot of people, and don't have a clue about when and where possibly the most famous speech in the last fidfty years took place..
Complete coincidence, eh?

Oh, dear lord... (5.00 / 2) (#9)
by Anne on Mon Oct 24, 2011 at 12:13:39 PM EST

Dye Rick Perry's hair white, and he could be Ted Baxter.

Hell, we know the birther nonsense holds appeal in some quarters, but I sure hope this isn't going into Trump-as-VP territory; I won't know whether to wet my pants laughing or sob with the realization that America really has gotten that dumb.

Oh, who am I kidding, I'll probably do both.

how about the bottom-feeders (none / 0) (#10)
by jondee on Mon Oct 24, 2011 at 12:24:45 PM EST

at Parade? Why are people giving them so much slack?

Aren't they sort of doing what John McLaughlin did why his "issue one: is Barak Obama a marxist?" queries? Planting meme-seeds to further a particular agenda in the guise of asking 'innocent questions'..


: Never thought I'd see BTD (5.00 / 1) (#14)
by oculus on Mon Oct 24, 2011 at 12:47:18 PM EST

referencing Parade mag.

Looks like Rick is (5.00 / 1) (#20)
by brodie on Mon Oct 24, 2011 at 01:59:10 PM EST

trying to re- kindle the early enthusiasm for his candidacy by going back to some simple plays which tend to work with many in his far right base. There is a certain non- stupid political logic to this even as the underlying charge is stupid.

Go Rick!

: Yes, he was trying to appeal too much to the (5.00 / 1) (#27)
by ruffian on Mon Oct 24, 2011 at 04:43:17 PM EST

intellectual elite with his earlier utterances!

: But. but. ..but. When H. Clinton sd. she (none / 0) (#24)
by oculus on Mon Oct 24, 2011 at 02:30:27 PM EST

had no reason to doubt Obama's claim (was it re "natural born" or not being Muslim, can't remember), this helped Obama.

Makes perfect sense (5.00 / 2) (#36)
by lentinel on Mon Oct 24, 2011 at 08:32:18 PM EST

to me.

Perry is simply saying that he is uncertain about where Obama was born because Obama hasn't seen Perry's birth certificate.

What's the problem?

Heck.

I'm not even sure where I was born because neither Perry nor Obama has seen my birth certificate.

In fact, if you really think about it, nobody knows where anybody was born - or even if they were actually born.

Hey, it could work! (none / 0) (#3)
by andgarden on Mon Oct 24, 2011 at 11:30:18 AM EST

Talk about a strawperson: he hasn't seen mine. (none / 0) (#6)
by oculus on Mon Oct 24, 2011 at 12:07:04 PM EST

: That line makes NO sense (none / 0) (#11)
by Dadler on Mon Oct 24, 2011 at 12:35:28 PM EST

Me Thinks the Repuclic Base Cliff Notes... (none / 0) (#4)
by ScottW714 on Mon Oct 24, 2011 at 11:52:21 AM EST

...edition given to Perry last month was, at the very least, skimmed through.

Perry has not been a bad governor, not exactly good from a liberal view, but for Texas he is not all bad. Make that 'is' a 'was'.

It's why he looks like an idiot, his normal views are simply too far left for the base. So now he's having to reconcile common sense with the views of the people he needs to vote for him,m which are quite frankly, crazy.

It's what happened to McCain, he's was decent guy until he got presidential aspirations, and now, like Perry will so be, a bad joke stripped of all principle by his own party.

The guy is a walking disaster (3.00 / 1) (#12)
by Rojas on Mon Oct 24, 2011 at 12:43:27 PM EST

But to play him as out of the mainstream is just silly.
If you loved Clinton you should like Perry.


"Word bomb." (none / 0) (#13)
by oculus on Mon Oct 24, 2011 at 12:46:28 PM EST

: Twenty-two years ago, Perry was a Democrat. (none / 0) (#34)
by Mr Natural on Mon Oct 24, 2011 at 06:57:10 PM EST

He chaired, for example, the Texas component of Al Gore's 1988 campaign.

Simple (none / 0) (#22)
by Ga6thDem on Mon Oct 24, 2011 at 02:15:50 PM EST

desperation is all it is.

: Simple but perhaps necessary (none / 0) (#26)
by brodie on Mon Oct 24, 2011 at 02:40:05 PM EST

desperation since Rock has been bleeding in the polls in the past month. Gotta do something or else he's done. And he knows there are still plenty in the far right of the GOP who fall for this line of attack.

A Birther is Born (none / 0) (#28)
by ruffian on Mon Oct 24, 2011 at 04:44:00 PM EST

....from the discarded headlines file

Lunch with the Donald? (none / 0) (#35)
by DFLer on Mon Oct 24, 2011 at 08:13:59 PM EST

That must have been a bouffant banquet. I wonder who picked up the tab.

Misprint. (none / 0) (#37)
by lentinel on Mon Oct 24, 2011 at 08:34:39 PM EST

What Perry actually said was that he had lunch with Donald Duck.


ha ha (none / 0) (#38)
by DFLer on Mon Oct 24, 2011 at 08:55:34 PM EST

he's such a quack


: and so THAT'S who got the bill (5.00 / 1) (#39)
by DFLer on Mon Oct 24, 2011 at 08:56:30 PM EST