home

Scalia's Predictable "Originalism"

That Justice Antonin Scalia does not believe that the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th amendment does not prohibit discrimination on the basis of gender should not come as a surprise to anyone. Via Huffington Post, in an interview with California Lawyer magazine, Justice Scalia confirms what most of us who thought about the question, already knew:

[Q:]In 1868, when the 39th Congress was debating and ultimately proposing the 14th Amendment, I don't think anybody would have thought that equal protection applied to sex discrimination, or certainly not to sexual orientation. So does that mean that we've gone off in error by applying the 14th Amendment to both?

[SCALIA:] Yes, yes. Sorry, to tell you that. ... Certainly the Constitution does not require discrimination on the basis of sex. The only issue is whether it prohibits it. It doesn't.

This has been a central point to the discussion of originalism, original understanding and original purpose constitutional interpretation which I have written about a lot here. But this specific question on gender discrimination and Scalia's view was the subject of a Daily Kos post I wrote in 2006:

Here is a wonderful question that Professor Michael Dorf presents to "originalists that drives home this point:

Even when the evidence of the original understanding is clear, and even when it is simple to locate an appropriate analogy, originalism may still yield bad answers because values change.

For example, the people who wrote and ratified the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment in 1868 thought it was consistent with separate spheres for men and women. In the nineteenth century, and well into the twentieth, women were denied the most basic rights and opportunities because their proper role was understood to be that of wife and mother. Yet the modern Supreme Court has quite correctly held that, given modern understandings, official sex discrimination is presumptively unconstitutional.

How would Scalia answer this question? It is inarguable that the 14th Amendment when adopted, was NOT understood to prohibit discrimination based on gender. That is the clear original understanding of the specific question. Where Dorf goes wrong, in my opinion, is to fail to note that one need not stray from originalism to "breathe life" into the 14th and honor and serve its original purpose - to prevent unequal application of the law. That Americans in 1868 did not understand the gender discrimination constituted unequal treatment under the law does not undermine the serving of the original purpose of the 14th by understanding that this 1868 view is wrong - gender discrimination is indeed unequal treatment under the law. My view is that this is a perfectly appropriate originalist result that is faithful to the original purpose of the 14th Amendment.

Here is Scalia's answer to the question:

Oh, one other example about how not just the judges and scholars believed in originalism, but even the American people. Consider the 19th Amendment, which is the amendment that gave women the vote. It was adopted by the American people in 1920. Why did we adopt a constitutional amendment for that purpose? The Equal Protection Clause existed in 1920; it was adopted right after the Civil War. And you know that if the issue of the franchise for women came up today, we would not have to have a constitutional amendment. Someone would come to the Supreme Court and say, "Your Honors, in a democracy, what could be a greater denial of equal protection than denial of the franchise?" And the Court would say, "Yes! Even though it never meant it before, the Equal Protection Clause means that women have to have the vote." But that's not how the American people thought in 1920. In 1920, they looked at the Equal Protection Clause and said, "What does it mean?" Well, it clearly doesn't mean that you can't discriminate in the franchise -- not only on the basis of sex, but on the basis of property ownership, on the basis of literacy. None of that is unconstitutional. And therefore, since it wasn't unconstitutional, and we wanted it to be, we did things the good old fashioned way and adopted an amendment.

This passage is critical. What Scalia says is that even though the original understanding of the 14th Amendment would, if applied today, prohibit gender discrimination, since in 1868 it was understood not to, then the 19th Amendment was necessary to give women the vote. This leaves Scalia with a significant problem in my view - what of other forms of gender discrimination? To me, Scalia's statements require him to state that other forms of gender discrimination are CONSTITUTIONAL.

Besides being abhorrent, this is also wrong in my view. Why? Because Scalia ignores that which Marshall did not - the common law tradition embodied in the power of the judiciary. The Constitution is sparse in details, written, appropriately, to state general principles and purposes. In my view, the Constitution is written to allow the judiciary to "breathe life" into its specific provsions and application to particular cases. To me this is the only rational view possible.

Back to Scalia:

Or consider the opinions of John Marshall in the Federal Bank case, where he says, we must not, we must always remember it is a constitution we are expounding. And since it's a constitution, he says, you have to give its provisions expansive meaning so that they will accommodate events that you do not know of which will happen in the future.

Well, if it is a constitution that changes, you wouldn't have to give it an expansive meaning. You can give it whatever meaning you want and, when future necessity arises, you simply change the meaning. But anyway, that is no longer the orthodoxy.

Let's be clear what Scalia just said - Marshall was wrong. And Scalia is utterly dishonest in his disagreement. No one says "change" at whim. Expansive in this sense is precisely to give it life to address current circumstances. But intellectual dishonesty is a watchword with Scalia.

But more importantly, it simply does not make sense. Scalia's view of Constitutional interpretation simply does not work.

It's funny how "public intellectuals" all concerned about anonymous Internet commenters have nothng to say about this.

Speaking for me only

< Demanding Accountability: Not From Elites, But From Anonymous Internet Commenters | The Ethos Of The New "Journamalism" >
  • The Online Magazine with Liberal coverage of crime-related political and injustice news

  • Contribute To TalkLeft


  • Display: Sort:
    Intellectual dishonesty is indeed his watchword (5.00 / 2) (#1)
    by ruffian on Tue Jan 04, 2011 at 08:44:07 AM EST
    Scalia:
    And you know that if the issue of the franchise for women came up today, we would not have to have a constitutional amendment. Someone would come to the Supreme Court and say, "Your Honors, in a democracy, what could be a greater denial of equal protection than denial of the franchise?" And the Court would say, "Yes! Even though it never meant it before, the Equal Protection Clause means that women have to have the vote."

    Does he really believe he would rule this way? I'm not so sure.

    I haven't read this in a while (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by andgarden on Tue Jan 04, 2011 at 09:16:41 AM EST
    Wow (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by chrisvee on Tue Jan 04, 2011 at 09:57:46 AM EST
    His 'current preferences of society' are my inalienable rights.  I'm apparently not living in same country as Scalia.

    Parent
    I think he must see the SCOTUS as (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by ruffian on Tue Jan 04, 2011 at 11:21:22 AM EST
    The Wizard of Oz. They give you what you always had all along. You just didn't know it.

    Except if you're a girl trying to get into VMI.

    Parent

    I'm pretty sure I read in a history book somewhere (5.00 / 7) (#17)
    by Peter G on Tue Jan 04, 2011 at 11:35:25 AM EST
    that different methods of counting ballots for President in different Florida counties was just what the Framers of the Fourteenth Amendment had in mind when they drafted the Equal Protection Clause in 1868.  Speaking of intellectual consistency ....

    Parent
    Ha! (none / 0) (#18)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Jan 04, 2011 at 11:46:49 AM EST
    Get over it! (none / 0) (#19)
    by andgarden on Tue Jan 04, 2011 at 12:37:54 PM EST
    ;-)

    Parent
    Here's the illustrated footnote (none / 0) (#23)
    by Peter G on Tue Jan 04, 2011 at 09:24:28 PM EST
    For Andy's response: YouTube link.

    Parent
    Ironically, the argument that the protections (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by Farmboy on Tue Jan 04, 2011 at 09:41:28 AM EST
    of the 14th did apply to women was one of the arguments offered by post-Nixonian "conservatives" to block ratification (and used in support of de-ratification) of the ERA.

    It's going to be a good year (5.00 / 3) (#11)
    by Maryb2004 on Tue Jan 04, 2011 at 11:15:37 AM EST
    when we get to read something on originalism in the first week.

    Next topic (5.00 / 4) (#13)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Jan 04, 2011 at 11:17:00 AM EST
    Preemption . . .

    Parent
    Not necessarily (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by jpe on Tue Jan 04, 2011 at 07:11:21 PM EST
    To me, Scalia's statements require him to state that other forms of gender discrimination are CONSTITUTIONAL.

    I just finished a few books on the history of the 14th amendment, and what struck me as bizarre was the 19th century distinction between political rights on the one hand - viz., voting - and civil rights on the other.  It was widely believed that the 14th would gain civil rights but not political rights (hence the need for the 15th and 19th amendments, 14th amendment notwithstanding)

    very important point (none / 0) (#22)
    by Peter G on Tue Jan 04, 2011 at 08:07:59 PM EST
    to a genuine constitutional textualist, even of the "living Constitution" stripe.  It is one thing to say that women are clearly "persons" (as are the intellectually handicapped, Italian-Americans, gays, and Jews, to cite a few more examples) even if the drafters in 1868 might not have thought about the equal rights of such persons.  It is quite another to make "equal protection of the laws" mean something categorically different from what the drafters meant.  Things which are functionally analogous in the modern world to what the drafters did mean should be treated as covered by their archaic words (hence, e-mail, blogs, and phone calls are, to my mind, "papers" under the Fourth Amendment).  But it is obvious that for whatever reason the drafters did not understand "equal protection of the laws" to encompass voting rights; otherwise, why pass the 15th Amendment at the same time as the 14th?

    Parent
    Is there a problem? (none / 0) (#5)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Tue Jan 04, 2011 at 10:27:42 AM EST

    Is there a problem in charging women lower life insurance premiums than men?

    talk to your local actuary (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by ruffian on Tue Jan 04, 2011 at 10:43:50 AM EST
    If there is anything in this world that is data-based, it is life insurance premiums.

    Parent
    Do you mean is it legal? (5.00 / 0) (#8)
    by Yman on Tue Jan 04, 2011 at 10:56:39 AM EST
    Probably.  Don't know if it's ever been challenged, but (in general) women live longer than men, so the insurance company's risk is less - therefore they charge less.  Are you trying to suggest this is discrimination in violation of some constitutional right to be charged the same amount by a private company?

    Wish my wife's haircuts cost the same as mine.

    Parent

    Or (none / 0) (#9)
    by chrisvee on Tue Jan 04, 2011 at 11:01:51 AM EST
    Her dry-cleaning.

    Parent
    I was thinking (none / 0) (#10)
    by Zorba on Tue Jan 04, 2011 at 11:08:31 AM EST
    the exact same thing, chrisvee.  

    Parent
    From my memory (none / 0) (#12)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Jan 04, 2011 at 11:16:02 AM EST
    someone challenged insurance companies in the state of TN for charging young boys more for auto insurance than girls... And won.

    So the insurance companies raised the rates of the girls.

    Road to hell, good intentions, etc.

    Parent

    Maybe I should (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by Zorba on Tue Jan 04, 2011 at 11:22:33 AM EST
    challenge the dry cleaners of Maryland on their charging more for women's clothing items than the equivalent men's items.  I'm sure, if I win, the men in this state will then pay more for their dry cleaning in order to achieve parity with women.   ;-)

    Parent
    I'm sure the insurance companies (none / 0) (#16)
    by ruffian on Tue Jan 04, 2011 at 11:22:47 AM EST
    really put up a fight on that one!

    Parent
    Just logical (none / 0) (#20)
    by Yman on Tue Jan 04, 2011 at 02:56:16 PM EST
    If there's a TN law prohibiting auto insurance companies from charging different rates based on gender, of course (the previously lower) womens' rate will increase.

    Most states do not prohibit auto insurance companies from charging more for male drivers, because nothing in those states prohibits such discrimination.  Similarly (and back to the original point), insurers charge men more for life insurance.  Just because something is discriminatory does not mean it is illegal ... or wrong.

    Parent

    Not if the actuarial tables used to (2.00 / 1) (#7)
    by Harry Saxon on Tue Jan 04, 2011 at 10:43:56 AM EST
    compute the life span/expectancy/etc of women vs. women support doing so.

    In short, "Do the math!"

    From www.actuary(dot)com:

    Click Me


    Parent