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Scotland voted to stay in the U.K. "With 31 of 32 constituencies declared, unionists had won 55 percent of the vote while separatists were on 45 percent."

The bill to arm and train "moderate" Syrian rebels has now passed in the Senate.

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    Sad but true Scotland lost the vote (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by fishcamp on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 06:16:59 AM EST
    but Cameron promises reform with taxes, welfare and more.  Unfortunately the English have made these very promises before and not kept them.  They even grumble in the pubs if you pay for a pint with a Scottish pound.  We gave them a scare and if the promises are not kept well, remember the film Braveheart.

    Reliably, (none / 0) (#2)
    by lentinel on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 06:23:22 AM EST
    Cameron, Obama and the Queen all came out against the movement for independence.

    Obama's reason was my favorite.
    He needs a "strong" partner...presumably for his military escapades.

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    Yep (none / 0) (#4)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 07:54:51 AM EST
    people were saying last "see ya in a couple of years when the promises are not kept"

    It must have been a bit gratifying to see the Brits so panicked

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    I know Longshanks' (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by kdog on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 08:55:42 AM EST
    notion of promises, one of those and 3 quid will buy you a pint.

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    And no rioting (none / 0) (#7)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 08:09:30 AM EST
    the union jack@ffs must be disappointed

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    Do you see this coming up for (none / 0) (#9)
    by MO Blue on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 08:21:11 AM EST
    another vote some time in the not too distant future?

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    Yes (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by fishcamp on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 09:30:35 AM EST
    No (none / 0) (#21)
    by CoralGables on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 09:19:47 AM EST
    Maybe so! (none / 0) (#26)
    by kdog on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 09:54:53 AM EST
    One more comment (none / 0) (#27)
    by CoralGables on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 09:59:54 AM EST
    and we'll have the perfect range of opinions :)

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    I think, (none / 0) (#35)
    by NYShooter on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 10:51:16 AM EST
    maybe?

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    I am still trying to forget that pathetic movie. (none / 0) (#31)
    by oculus on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 10:43:05 AM EST
    How can you not like Braveheart? (none / 0) (#32)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 10:45:19 AM EST
    Not a fan of Mel. Loved "Rob Roy.". (none / 0) (#34)
    by oculus on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 10:51:13 AM EST
    One thing (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by lentinel on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 06:32:53 AM EST
    that interested everyone was the size of voter registration, and the size of the turnout. Up near 90% .

    It made me think that people will turn out to vote if they can feel that their vote has an actual bearing on the quality of their lives.

    That is something I haven't felt in quite awhile - despite the exhortations of some people posting here whose opinions I respect, but cannot feel at this juncture.

    Example: Obama v/s McCain. What could be clearer?
    And yet, the fact that Obama actually campaigned for Joe Lieberman against Lamont in 2006 - a time when the entire country was revolted by the war in Iraq - turned my stomach to such a degree that I could not feel anything positive about him - no matter how fkd up McCain appeared to be.

    I suspect others may feel as put off as I - and that would have something to do with the dismal turnouts here in the US.

    Another positive note in the Scottish vote: they have enfranchised voters from the age of 16.

    I believe that should happen here too.
    16 and 17 year olds have a great stake in the policies of our government and should have the right to express themselves at the ballot box.

    That whole (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 08:26:06 AM EST
    Lieberman thing should have been a tip off to a lot of people that Obama was just saying what they wanted to hear.

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    HAve to admit (none / 0) (#6)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 08:05:05 AM EST
    the Lieberman/Lamont thing really pi$$ed me off.  And the idea of LIEberman as mentor thing made me shudder.

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    In a bit of a spot (none / 0) (#8)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 08:19:12 AM EST
    during the Lamont thing I called and emailed Mark Pryor and said if he backed LIEberman  (which he did) I would never vote for him again.   Looks like I may have to.


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    Good to be Flexible (none / 0) (#11)
    by squeaky on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 08:26:26 AM EST
    Things change..

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    Hobby Lobby must be so proud (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 08:36:05 AM EST
    Polygamous religious sect dodges subpoena with Hobby Lobby ruling

    This summer's Supreme Court ruling on Hobby Lobby is having a cascading effect of unintended consequences, this time potentially impacting a radical religious sect facing allegations of breaking child labor laws.

    A federal judge in Utah ruled last week that a member of a Mormon offshoot known as the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (FLDS) was exempted from testifying in a federal child labor investigation, claiming that sharing information on the inter-workings of the church violated his religious vows.



    So Help Me.... (5.00 / 2) (#14)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 08:39:55 AM EST
    Praise The Lord :) (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 10:07:55 AM EST
    General Welsh is a General!

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    Yay (none / 0) (#16)
    by squeaky on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 08:52:44 AM EST
    Hope the guy survives the wrath of god.

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    Why the military is needed (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 09:06:38 AM EST
    A spokesman for the government in Guinea said on Thursday that eight bodies were found two days after a group of health workers and journalists went missing in the country.

    The journalists and officials came under attack near the southern city of Nzerekore, close to the Liberian border. One journalist was able to escape and later told reporters that she could hear villagers looking for her.

    The Associated Press said that the group "was doing disinfection and education on prevention methods" when it went missing.

    Doctors and researchers trying to contain the Ebola outbreak, which is deadlier than all previous outbreaks combined, have run up against a population deeply suspicious of medical personnel. Last month, riots broke out in the same Guinean city over rumors that health care workers were infecting people with the virus.



    Going to get worse (none / 0) (#23)
    by Slado on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 09:36:29 AM EST
    before it gets better.

    Frontline had an excellent story on the Ebola outbreak and they showed people in the cities saying that the government was lying about the outbreak and all sorts of other propaganda that will lead to more infections.

    Then in the small villages were the outbreak is worst people were scared to talk to health workers and keep infecting their families and neighbors because they're scared to go to the temporary hospitals.

    It's very sad and more support is needed if the outbreak is going to get better anytime soon.  The local governments and services aren't anywhere near enough to deal with it.

    In fact many of the hospitals are shut down because doctors and nurses have died treating the outbreak.  If the international community doesn't step in it will get worse before it gets better.

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    I think we are past that (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 09:51:35 AM EST
    and at the "How much worse" stage

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    Union Jacks (none / 0) (#5)
    by Uncle Chip on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 07:55:52 AM EST
    A lot of Union Jacks around the world are happy today.

    Lieberman is a pious hypocrite (none / 0) (#13)
    by Mordiggian 88 on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 08:37:06 AM EST
    Who now is a lobbyist even though he had stated previously that he wouldn't be.  

    At least he still takes Saturdays off........."

    His sabbath is friom (none / 0) (#15)
    by MO Blue on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 08:47:46 AM EST
    Friday evening until Saturday evening.

    Other than that, I agree with you that he is a hypocrite playing the part of a pious person.

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    Really? (none / 0) (#18)
    by squeaky on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 08:58:37 AM EST
    He was a politician. Politicians represent their constituents, and change their positions as needed. And now he is a salesman not much different... telling people what they want to hear is the trade.

    All politicians are hypocrites by definition. Hypocrisy is really not relevant, imo. as disgusting as he is as a human being.


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    110% Effort (none / 0) (#20)
    by Uncle Chip on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 09:09:03 AM EST
    Well atleast the Scots left it all on the field -- giving a full 110% effort:

    CNN math geniuses report

    iOS 8 users .... (none / 0) (#25)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 09:54:38 AM EST
    are you finding it's slower ?

    In a word...no (none / 0) (#29)
    by fishcamp on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 10:26:45 AM EST
    since my computers are 10.9.5 and my iPhone is 7.1.2.  You must be speaking about the iPads which I don't have.

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    I'm hoping it gets better (none / 0) (#30)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 10:31:59 AM EST
    but definitely slower iPad.  Especially, but not only, FaceBook
    I like some of the features.

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    Darren Wilson Grand Jury (none / 0) (#33)
    by Uncle Chip on Fri Sep 19, 2014 at 10:50:23 AM EST
    Lisa Bloom interview

    What's going on???