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New Years Day Bowls Open Thread

Happy New Year! New Years Day means college football. Here are my picks:

Cotton Bowl - Texas Tech (-8) over Northwestern.

Outback Bowl - Florida (-3) over Penn State.

Citrus Bowl - Alabama (-10) (5 units) over Mich. State.

Gator Bowl - Miss St. (-2) (2 units) over Michigan.

Rose Bowl - Wisconsin (+3) (7 units) over TCU.

Fiesta Bowl - Oklahoma (-17) over Connecticut.

More college football this week, including the national championship game.

Open Thread.

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    I'm having second thoughts (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 03:14:48 PM EST
    about Wisconsin after watching the Big Ten today

    In the Badgers favor (none / 0) (#22)
    by CoralGables on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 05:14:15 PM EST
    they don't have to play an SEC team like Michigan, Michigan State, and Penn State.

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    What differentiates the SEC from (none / 0) (#30)
    by oculus on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 06:40:51 PM EST
    the Big 10:  the fervency of the fans.  (According to people interviewed by Detroit News before the MSU bowl game.)  Something about no pro football teams in SEC territory for many years.

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    Link: (none / 0) (#31)
    by oculus on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 06:58:26 PM EST
    Warm Weather (none / 0) (#32)
    by CoralGables on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 07:06:01 PM EST
    and college recruits seeing skin when they go on recruiting trips sending more studly players south?

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    Hmmm. Hadn't thought of that. (none / 0) (#33)
    by oculus on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 07:07:03 PM EST
    Actually, the Vols (none / 0) (#37)
    by the capstan on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 08:45:59 PM EST
    (back in national champion days) went mining for players in coal country.

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    Badgers gnawed to death by Horned Toads. (none / 0) (#35)
    by caseyOR on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 07:30:52 PM EST
    What has become of the Big 10? Football behemoths no more. What a dismal bowl season record so far for the conference of the midsection.

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    I guess (none / 0) (#1)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 10:14:07 AM EST
    since New Year's means lots of college football it also means BTD is happy all day?

    Happy New Year!

    Dumbest College Coach Statement (none / 0) (#2)
    by CoralGables on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 10:15:17 AM EST
    headed into the New Year...Jim Tressel at a press conference saying his five players that will be suspended for the first five games of next year can't play in the Sugar Bowl game unless they promise to return to Ohio State next season.

    All promised to return.

    Now you can expect a couple to showcase their skills in the Sugar Bowl, never return to school, and jump to the NFL, making Tressel twist and turn trying to explain what happened at his next press conference.

    Go Badgers! (none / 0) (#3)
    by Maryb2004 on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 10:44:36 AM EST
    Not that I really care, but I have Wisconsin family who care deeply.

    Happy New Year A and all the other Left Talkers. :)

    HAIL (none / 0) (#4)
    by oculus on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 11:16:23 AM EST


    And I always thought (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by CoralGables on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 11:59:30 AM EST
    maize was corn

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    The only reason... (5.00 / 0) (#20)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 04:53:27 PM EST
    ...a team that finished 3 and 5 in conference play is playing on NY's Day is their "storied" past, IMO.  Its certainly not based on their current performance--and it showed today.  

    A bigger surprise to me was Michigan State's tanking today.  Somewhere Steve M. is very disappointed this afternoon.

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    I miss Steve M (5.00 / 3) (#39)
    by IndiDemGirl on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 09:34:23 PM EST
    Used to look forward to reading his comments. There are others on the site, including you, I enjoy reading -- but I miss Steve M.

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    I accosted a man at ice skating this (none / 0) (#7)
    by oculus on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 12:52:53 PM EST
    week.  He was wearing a Michigan sweat shirt.  Hadn't heard of "HAIL" t-shirt and didn't seem all that interested!

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    He must (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by CoralGables on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 01:04:39 PM EST
    have grabbed the sweat shirt at the flea market if he wasn't interested in HAIL

    Parent
    Sounds like... (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 01:22:52 PM EST
    ...it could have been RichRod.

    Parent
    Whose head will roll later today, according (none / 0) (#11)
    by oculus on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 02:09:57 PM EST
    to my usually reliable source.

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    That's the rumor. (none / 0) (#12)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 02:18:37 PM EST
    His buy-out amount gets cut in half today.  I think it may depend on whether or not they can convince Jim Harbaugh to leave Palo Alto to return to Ann Arbor and forsake the lure of the NFL.

    At least he knows what HAIL! means.

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    Usually reliable source has fingers (none / 0) (#13)
    by oculus on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 02:24:40 PM EST
    crossed re Harbaugh.

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    44-14 end of 3rd quarter. Not looking good. (none / 0) (#14)
    by oculus on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 03:02:16 PM EST
    looked good to me! (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by english teacher on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 05:19:09 PM EST
    Hey--no spoilers! (none / 0) (#6)
    by observed on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 12:22:14 PM EST
    don't care about college football (none / 0) (#10)
    by desmoinesdem on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 01:56:37 PM EST
    but I wonder if those who follow it could weigh in on whether it's relatively common or rare for a college football coach's contract to have terms similar to these:

    Kirk Ferentz takes care of his own.Midst the hoopla about the gazillion-dollar "contract" the football coach signed earlier this month with the University of Iowa, there was little note of Section 4 B, "Additional Compensation for Assistant Coaches." But it's worth noting.

    At a time when the university is agonizing over whether to give faculty members a 1 percent raise or a 2 percent raise, at a time when union members and many others were forced to take five-day "furloughs," at a time when Iowa's parents are hit with tuition increases of 6 percent to 12 percent for their kids at the state universities, and at a time when the Legislature has been cutting back on appropriations to the universities, Coach Ferentz talked the university into giving extraordinarily high pay increases for 12 of his 25 or so assistants.

    Annually.

    For 10 years.

    The 12 coaches, who average about $190,000 a year, merely have to coach the team to a mediocre year in order to get an 8 percent annual raise. That is, they have to win just six of the 12 games, be invited to a bowl (any bowl), and make sure that 55 percent of their players graduate within six years, an easy hurdle. If the team finishes in the top 25 in the nation, the raises will be 10 percent. The scale goes up to a maximum of 20 percent if the team is the national champion.

    That's not all. If the team shares the conference championship, the twelve get a bonus of an extra half-month's pay; if they win it outright, they get a month's pay. If they go to a bowl, besides the pay raise they get an additional bonus of at least one month's salary; if it's a BCS bowl, they get a bonus of two-and-a-half-months' salary, and if it's the national title game, they get a bonus of three months' salary.

    There's more. If the team is selected for even a low-tier bowl and finishes at least in the top 25 ranked teams, Coach Ferentz is given a bonus pool of $85,000 to $200,000 to distribute among the coaches and a handful of others. Also, the 12 coaches this year get to share in a $300,000 "signing bonus."

    Oh, one other thing: the coaches all get free membership in the University Club.

    If the raises over the next decade average 10 percent -- and that's probably a low number -- Ken O'Keefe, the offensive coordinator, will be making $675,000 at the end of Coach Ferentz' "contract." That's his base. It doesn't include bonuses that could be in the hundreds of thousands of dollars over the decade.

    Coach O'Keefe currently makes around $260,000, according to state records. The average faculty member at the University of Iowa makes $96,482 a year. Marilynne Robinson, a full professor who won the Pulitzer Prize for fiction a few years ago, earns $141,500 a year, less than the $149,000 paid to the school's coach of the tight ends. Norbert Pienta, a full professor of chemistry who was one of four recipients of the outstanding-teaching award this year, makes $117,000, less than half the $246,840 paid to Chris Doyle, who oversees strength and conditioning for the team. Coach Ferentz is the highest-paid coach in the Big 10. Iowa's faculty ranks seventh in pay in the Big 10. In the fiscal year just ended, the average faculty pay increase was -- zero.

    As for Ferentz himself, his "contract" is no contract at all. The university has agreed to pay him a base of nearly $4 million a year for 10 years and bonuses that could total $1.7 million if Iowa is the national champion, as well as supplying him with two cars (plus insurance for them), 35 hours a year of private-jet travel for personal use, and his own box at Kinnick Stadium, and if the university decides to fire Ferentz without cause -- and "cause" does not include fielding a lousy team -- the coach can collect 75 percent of his annual guaranteed amount for each of the remaining years of the contract. If he gets a big-paying job elsewhere, the university still has to pay.

    But if Ferentz decides to leave on his own -- at any time for any reason -- there is no penalty. He owes the university nothing. His new employer owes the university nothing. That's the "contract." ...



    Is this taxpayer money though? (none / 0) (#17)
    by oculus on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 03:35:49 PM EST
    The program is self sustaining (none / 0) (#34)
    by Raskolnikov on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 07:11:50 PM EST
    Very revenue positive and pays for most of our other athletic programs.  The contract is a bit wild but I'm of the opinion that as long as the program is still making money and paying for our Basketball teams (ha!) then they can do what they want with compensation.  Budget cuts and furloughs in academics don't really have any bearing on what happens in athletics, they're separate pools for alumni donations.  It would be a different issue of course if they were making big cutbacks in other sports to prop up our overpaid coaching staff so they can continue to make bad in-game decisions and end with a mediocre record.

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    For kdog: latest crime news. (none / 0) (#15)
    by oculus on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 03:13:58 PM EST
    CNN

    They're featuring the (none / 0) (#25)
    by Harry Saxon on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 05:30:41 PM EST
    Geezer Bandit on America's Most Wanted tonight, here's his background from abcnews(dot)go(dot)com:

    Nov. 16, 2010

    The FBI and police in California are searching for the "geezer bandit," an apparently grey-haired elderly man who has committed armed robberies at 12 banks, the latest on Friday in Bakersfield.

    The elderly persona -- whether real or donned for
    the robberies -- may be one reason why the bandit
    has been so successful. "People may think that
    because of his overall appearance he may not be as
    threatening," said FBI special agent Darrell Foxworth in San Diego. "But you have to keep in mind that he's an armed bank robber. And he has threatened tellers with the use of that gun -- we have photos where he is actually pointing a gun at a teller."

    Click Me

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    LOL... (none / 0) (#21)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 05:11:43 PM EST
    So You Want to be a Lawyer

    So glad I dissuaded myself of that notion early on.

    University of Pittsburgh (none / 0) (#23)
    by CoralGables on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 05:18:28 PM EST
    coach fired before he makes it to campus.

    The Big Ten??? (none / 0) (#36)
    by Buckeye on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 08:31:54 PM EST
    MY Gawd.  0-4 with 2 blowout losses.

    I see no way we beat the Hogs especially with the off the field problems on top of everthing.

    Speaking of mediocre Big 10 performances (none / 0) (#38)
    by desmoinesdem on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 09:12:46 PM EST
    I see former Iowa coach Hayden Fry was inducted to the Rose Bowl Hall of Fame. What a joke. He did lead the Hawkeyes to three Rose Bowls, but never won one.

    OMG. You are desecrating (none / 0) (#40)
    by oculus on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 11:12:09 PM EST
    an Iowa icon.

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    And I quote: (none / 0) (#41)
    by oculus on Sat Jan 01, 2011 at 11:29:36 PM EST
    "They tackled better than us, they caught better than us, they ran better than us, and that's unfortunate ... that was the ballgame," Rodriguez said.