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By Big Tent Democrat, Section Other Politics
Posted on Tue Sep 07, 2010 at 12:43:41 PM EST
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Two months before the 2010 midterm elections, likely voters now favor the Republican over the Democratic candidate in their congressional district by 53-40 percent, the widest GOP margin on record in ABC News/Washington Post polls since 1981.

The economy is why.

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    BottomLine: I can no longer afford to give a sh!t (5.00 / 2) (#10)
    by Ellie on Tue Sep 07, 2010 at 05:25:12 PM EST
    Before, not giving a sh!t about, eg, something splattering Obama's precious image or Some Dem's comity-inducing generosity that some misogynistic choice-nuking, rights-obliterating lying sack of crap rilly rilly believes in that sacred belief ... was merely an option.

    Now, in the middle of desperately clinging to what I've got by my fingernails I discover that Mr. Obama magnanimously has given Mr. Bush credit for sincerely believing that gratuitously invading and occupying Iraq was a good and proper thing

    (while virtually the entire world said "What the m0thrfeck!n' freaking f*ck?????")

    Why yes, yes of course, let's push that mutual ass-pat to the top of the Lazy Suzan News so everyone can have a sweet taste. Not, you know, another honkin' bite of the crap between two deep fried slices of crap sandwich that comprises the main diet of everyone outside DC.

    I'm voting a straght GOP ticket. (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by redwolf on Tue Sep 07, 2010 at 06:06:56 PM EST
    Now I'm not a progressive but I have been unable to vote for the GOP for the last few elections(Corporation, scum bag politics, F-ing Bailouts).  But this election I have decided to vote for them for 1 simple reason:
    GRIDLOCK.

    We need to finish this crash that Washington prevented by saving the banks and borrowing 13+% of our GPD per year to make up for the missing demand. The course forward with the Dems results in something like Japan: More and more spending to bail out banks and waste money on projects why the middle class is destroyed. It's been going on for 20 years now and I don't want to see it here.

    To fix this problem we need to hit bottom and reset the system (as FDR did in 1933 with the bank Holiday). We have to stop propping up the economy with massive borrowing.  The problem is debt.  The solution is too stop borrowing money until we hit bottom and can recover. I'm not advocating austerity, I'm advocating taking our medicine and then picking up the pieces.  The only people we are protecting with bailouts is the rich.  

    I'm hoping with the dumbass GOP in charge we will stop borrowing at a rate of 13% of GDP and allowing the system to finish collapsing (Out of pure spite to screw with Obama).  Yes the pain will be bad, and yes many people who did not cause this problem will be hurt. But I would rather have 18 months of pain than 20 years of slow grinding destruction.

    I have no Faith that Obama will have the guts to do what FDR did when he shut down the bad banks and reset the system.  My only hope is gridlock will do what no one in political system has the guts to do.  So I'm voting for the GOP straight down the line while voting to legalize pot and gay marriage.  

    My advice to the Dems: Get a real leader in charge.  Someone who's not a wall street lackey.

    18 months? (none / 0) (#13)
    by reslez on Tue Sep 07, 2010 at 06:40:20 PM EST
    Why do you think the pain would stop at 18 months? According to your plan, what is it that would cause the economy to start growing at that point?

    A swift and immediate debt repudiation would crater all banks worldwide, along with their deposits. And under your plan governments are not allowed to issue debt which means everybody's savings disappear as if they'd never existed.

    So where does growth come from? I'm genuinely curious. It seems far more likely to me that GDP would immediately plummet 60-80% with accompanying unemployment followed by mass riots and, probably, political revolution.

    Also, why do you think Republicans will suddenly refuse all deficit spending? Is there some secret Republican history of balanced budgets that leads you to expect this result?

    And as for Japan, we should be so lucky. Japan's lost decade: 3% unemployment, universal healthcare, lowest income inequality, highest life expectancy. Thank goodness we escaped that!

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    There's got to be something (none / 0) (#17)
    by NYShooter on Wed Sep 08, 2010 at 07:11:04 AM EST
    in their cigarettes that keep them so healthy.

    So, how do you figure? Highest per capita smoking consumption; no heart disease.

    Puff the Magic Dragon.....


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    I'm afraid (none / 0) (#14)
    by weltec2 on Tue Sep 07, 2010 at 06:45:51 PM EST
    all too many people will respond to the gridlock in this way. I predict people voting against themselves en masse, a very dark forecast indeed.

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    So in Nov the republicans are in control (none / 0) (#1)
    by Saul on Tue Sep 07, 2010 at 01:10:47 PM EST
    Now what?  How does that make the economy better?  Anybody know their specific plan to move the economy.

    I doubt they will fare any better. Probably make it worse.  The people are not happy now so they say lets try the republicans and when they go sour well lets try the democrats.  

    Today in politics which ever party is in power it is the sacred job of the opposing party to disrupt and destroy in any way they can the controlling party's power.

    The prize is the White House and Congress. It's a control thing. Back and forth

    More tax cuts (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by cawaltz on Tue Sep 07, 2010 at 01:21:36 PM EST
    Woohoo! We can never have enough of em'

    Oh and we'll cut the safety nets of millions too. In order to "balance the budget"  and don't forget health care reform reform.

    Sadly, Americans have bad and worse as their two options.

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    Tax cuts R Us (none / 0) (#12)
    by reslez on Tue Sep 07, 2010 at 06:09:10 PM EST
    Tax cuts sure. But let's not forget the hypocrisy. The instant Republicans share any responsibility for the economy their deficit cutting principles will sail out the window. Deficits only matter for Democrats. I expect a bunch of tax rebates like we had under Bush (remember those?) paired with new tax cuts for the wealthy. As we all know, the rich need tax cuts in order to create jobs... in China.

    Perhaps we'd also see anti-immigrant legislation to appease the jobless hordes back home (something to make immigrants themselves suffer -- nothing that would hinder employers from hiring undocumented workers and profiting from their labor). It will be entertaining to see Obama tapdance around that should it appear within spitting distance of an election. If so, I predict an unprincipled, unappetizing compromise followed by yet more hippie-punching.

    But if you want to know the sad truth, a corporate-sponsored Republican Congress will not materially differ from our corporate-sponsored Democratic Congress. The rich will continue to grow richer off the backs of the poor. The middle class will continue to be squeezed into nonexistence. Democrats refused to stop the corporate looting. They refused to stop the foreclosure mills. They refused any meaningful attempt to create jobs. They had both houses of Congress and the Presidency. This is not failure -- this is intent. Cultural issues are a carnival sideshow -- we're in a Depression, not cheering the home team at bat. A vote for the corporate Dems or the corporate Repubs is a vote for economic and environmental suicide. I'll be voting Green, and if I can't, I'm voting for None Of The Above!

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    The most bizarre (none / 0) (#6)
    by JamesTX on Tue Sep 07, 2010 at 02:19:18 PM EST
    thing about American political (non)reasoning is just that. What "the economy" means is that poor people have no jobs, no money, nowhere to live, and nothing to eat. How, in all imaginable universes under creation, do these creatures believe the Republicans, of all people, will give them those things or in any way alleviate their suffering? What kind of crazy do you have to be to believe that? The Republican philosophy is the poverty is a sign of moral corruption, and should not be pampered.

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    The real problem is that (5.00 / 7) (#7)
    by Anne on Tue Sep 07, 2010 at 02:32:28 PM EST
    believing that Dems aren't delivering in ways that improve people's lives does not translate to voting Republican, it translates to not voting at all.

    What's crazy is the assumption that rejecting one party means embracing the other; it doesn't, at all.  I think the numbers of people who stay home, or choose not to vote national races, will be an affirmation that None of the Above was the only choice people had any trust in.

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    You're right, (5.00 / 2) (#9)
    by NYShooter on Tue Sep 07, 2010 at 03:34:53 PM EST
    partially. But some, those who are not tuned in politically on a daily basis, will switch to republicans.

    And the Dems can't afford any switches.


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    Substitute (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by hookfan on Tue Sep 07, 2010 at 02:38:35 PM EST
    "these democrats" for "republicans", seems to work just as well. . .

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    Why not go out with a bang? (none / 0) (#3)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Tue Sep 07, 2010 at 01:47:37 PM EST

    One more mandate.  How about one more mandate that you have to buy a subscription to Newsweek, Nation, or others on a select list of progressive publications or face a big tax penalty.  All in the name of regulating interstate commerce of course.

    Once you have stuck your thumb in the public's eye, might as well give it a good twist.

    PU-LEASE (5.00 / 2) (#5)
    by cawaltz on Tue Sep 07, 2010 at 01:55:52 PM EST
    The problem is the right is full of hypocrites. It's okay to mandate women be required to give birth, it's okay to mandate that marriage be between a man and a woman, it's okay to mandate that welfare recipients have certain requirements, it's okay to mandate prayer in school, etc etc  however heaven forefend we actually mandate that you have health care coverage(although I'm using the term extremely loosely in regards to what was passed).  Both sides of the aisle should get a grip.

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    Heh (none / 0) (#4)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Tue Sep 07, 2010 at 01:54:56 PM EST
    "Progressive" publications. Good one.

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