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Is Jesse Jackson, Jr. in trouble? A new report on the Blagojevich senate seat for play scandal may implicate him in a plan involving $6 million. The source: Oak Brook businessman Raghuveer Nayaka.

Maybe he shouldn't have been so cocky about it last week.

In a radio interview about the mayor's race last week, Jackson challenged federal prosecutors to "bring it on" if they have evidence he was a conspirator in Blagojevich's corruption case.

In TV news, who will be the first to go home on DWTS tonight?I'll guess David Hasselback, Florence Henderson, or Margaret Cho. A new season of Biggest Loser starts, and a new cop show, DETROIT 1-8-7, starring Michael Imperioli from the Sopranos. Do we need more cop shows? I don't think so.

This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    Stan Greenberg (5.00 / 2) (#2)
    by andgarden on Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 08:06:20 PM EST
    has a memo (via Lux):

    Don'ts:
    --    Try to convince people things are good/getting better - that is out of step with what they see and feel everyday.
    --    Read your resume of accomplishments. Things as they are aren't good enough - explain how we will do better.
    --    Talk a lot about spending - when most important is who you are fighting and who the Republicans are defending.
    --    Run on the past. People are more concerned with how we get out of the mess than how we got here.

    The first and second points seem most important.

    Agree on points one and two (5.00 / 4) (#13)
    by Romberry on Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 09:53:48 PM EST
    Trying to make either of those arguments is just out of touch. Yet when that woman at the town hall event yesterday talked about being exhausted from defending Obama and her obvious worry for the future, those two things (moving the right way but just too slowly and a list of "accomplishments" that really didn't address her question) are exactly what the president chose to rely on in his response. Maybe he should read the memo.

    I don't think talking points from a memo are enough now. We are past that point. People don't believe what they are being told. They feel as if they were sold out, that hope and change were just slogans, and that our government is not really on their side even if our pols resort to skillful rhetoric to try and say that it is. And frankly, it's not hard to understand why people feel that way. I feel that way myself.

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    I liked what Bill Clinton had to say (none / 0) (#49)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 09:23:16 AM EST
    Respect the American people (Obama has a problem with that), they are concerned and frightened.  Acknowledge where things really are, tell them we have only had 20 months to turn this around while Republicans spent 8 years getting us here.  Ask for two more years, and if things are not better throw us out.

    I just love it.  It is exactly what would sell me hard and send me racing to the polls.

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    Definitely a better than (5.00 / 2) (#52)
    by MO Blue on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 09:37:25 AM EST
    the "blame the voters" strategy Obama is employing.

    Obama is at it again. Per Jake Tapper on Sept. 20:

    Last night at the Pyramid Club in Philadelphia, President Obama said "when I hear Democrats griping and groaning and saying, `Well, you know, the health care plan didn't have a public option;' and I don't know, `The financial reform -- there was a provision here that I think we should have gotten better'; or, `You know what, yes, you ended the war in Iraq, the combat mission there, but you haven't completely finished the Afghan war yet'; or this or that or the other -- I say, folks, wake up."



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    Jesus Christ what an idiot (5.00 / 6) (#53)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 09:43:01 AM EST
    Makes me just throw my hands in the air.  Nobody told him to run.  It was obvious this was going to be a one of the most challenging Presidencies in history.  Who does he think he is?  The most powerful man in the world, who is also an elected official and never had this imposed upon him, playing the victim card is Bull$hit in my opinion.  MAN UP!

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    Exactly (5.00 / 3) (#56)
    by ruffian on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 10:09:14 AM EST
    Why is he making jokes at the expense of his supporters? PPUS run amok.

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    What's even more interesting to me, (5.00 / 5) (#59)
    by Anne on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 10:39:31 AM EST
     in a train-wreck kind of way, is that this is almost word-for-word what he said at the Connecticut fundraiser - so that tells me one of two things: his remarks in Conn were ad-libbed, but he thought they went over so well that he's now incorporating them whenever he speaks to the high-rollers - or - he planned all along to say what he did in Conn., and it's now a standard talking point.

    Either way, it makes me wonder if he knows we can see, hear or read what he's saying - and that we can note that when he speaks in more open venues (i.e., "free"), he may be throwing in a few more I-know-you're-hurting lines, but the tone of why-can't-you-be-grateful is still there.

    I don't think this is post-partisan unity, at all.  I think this is genuine resentment that his adoring crowds are not just shrinking, they aren't nearly as adoring, that people actually have the nerve to question his and the Dems' performance.  

    And think about this: two years is about the longest he's stuck with anything before he's set his sights elsewhere and been ready to move on, and move up.  He's always gotten out before the glow could fade and the criticism could start, so he may be chafing at having to face an increasingly critical populace and media, and he has nowhere to go to get away from it.

    I expect a lot more whining, which won't help anything or anyone.

    It's not going to get any better, I don't think.  The 2012 presidential campaign won't be anything like the 2010 campaign - he's not going to get the media darling treatment, the softball questions - and it makes me wonder if he's really going to sign on for another 4 years.

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    What it sounds like to me (none / 0) (#60)
    by gyrfalcon on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 10:55:18 AM EST
    is that he apparently doesn't see any of these things he's chosen to do as a judgment call that may or may not prove out to have been the way to go and on which people may legitimately differ.  He seems to see them as unquestionably correct and therefore not legitimately subject to criticism.

    There's an authoritarian streak in that thinking that I'm not at all happy with.  He can't simply disagree, he has to ridicule.

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    What could you expect of someone (none / 0) (#69)
    by observed on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 11:43:51 AM EST
    who publicly gives another candidate the finger??

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    When did this happen (none / 0) (#74)
    by Socraticsilence on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 12:06:12 PM EST
    you know besides in your imagination?

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    Let's not forget the orwellian (none / 0) (#80)
    by observed on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 06:03:26 PM EST
    supporters, who tell you what to think, and tell you that Obama flipping the bird in plain view  didn't happen because you can't see it from a side angle..spare me.

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    flipping the bird in plain view.. (5.00 / 1) (#81)
    by jondee on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 06:10:45 PM EST
    cuz that would've been just such a brilliant strategic move; what self-serving pol could resist?

    But I know what you mean: a particularly oppressive cumulus cloud formation gave me the bird just the other day..

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    God Is Mean (none / 0) (#82)
    by squeaky on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 06:32:48 PM EST
    He is not getting my vote, I saw the same cloud and it was a clear f'you.

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    I think these are part of the prepared (none / 0) (#64)
    by ruffian on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 11:10:41 AM EST
    'jokes', and I use that term loosely. Maybe it is meant to look off the cuff, but I doubt that it is. I was not sure who the audience was in this one, that's why I thought it might be part of the PPUS. Maybe he is going after $$$ from Independents also.

    I am more and more doubting that he will run in 2012. He is not getting the appreciation he expected, and also I think the whole experience is even harder on the family than Michelle imagined, and she was not real thrilled with the idea to begin with.

    On the other hand maybe he thinks things will turn around post-2012 and he can bask in some glory.

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    I really don't get (none / 0) (#68)
    by lilburro on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 11:42:39 AM EST
    the idea that Obama is not going to run in 2012.  There has to be like, a 0.00004% chance of that.  IMO...

    I think these remarks are 100% planned, and are a reflection of what Obama thinks about his "legacy to be."  The thing I find most worrying about them is that they indicate his Admin is sort of fine with long term unemployment.  He should be getting checks for promising to do more, rather than receiving them for all the work he's already done.


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    probably right (none / 0) (#76)
    by ruffian on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 12:34:54 PM EST
    I guess once you've survived four years four more look ok. I just don't see what is in it for him personally anymore.

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    Ego. No way he can let (none / 0) (#78)
    by oldpro on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 01:13:57 PM EST
    himself be perceived as a quitter or a loser at this level -- if he didn't run for reelection, he'd be seen as both.  Imagine the press!

    His senior staff and his initial supporters will never let him off the hook.  Too much invested in the brand already to let it go after only 4 years.

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    I think not running would be extraordinarily (none / 0) (#75)
    by Socraticsilence on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 12:08:11 PM EST
    dumb- considering at this point he's probably still a 75-25 shot at re-election- like Clinton he's going to benefit from a fractured opposition and the ability to triangulate off a GOP congress and appear to be the most reasonable man in the room.

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    He hears "wah" from us (none / 0) (#58)
    by lilburro on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 10:28:37 AM EST
    we hear "wah" from him.

    Digby's post on why people are "exhausted of defending him" is a keeper.

    I'd also note that these comments from Obama are obviously part of a pattern, despite what his defenders think.  And not only a pattern, more likely a media strategy.  They just don't give two sh*ts about whether anyone hears them bashing liberals.  As Kevin said a few days ago:

    I know why Jane and Glenn and plenty of others are angry at Obama. Some of their disappointments I share, some I don't. And there's some history here. But still: come on, folks. It's a campaign fundraiser. It's a place where you rouse whichever troops are in the audience and reel off a list of your accomplishments, not one where you hang your head and talk about your failures. It's a place where you tell a few jokes -- like acknowledging the fact that liberals have been devotees of the circular firing squad for as long as liberals have existed. It's lighthearted after-dinner stuff, not an address to the nation.

    Uh-huh.  

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    BTW, (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by andgarden on Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 08:12:10 PM EST
    major kudos to TL for fixing access to the user comments page. It's back to 2010 speed now!

    Or, um, not (none / 0) (#8)
    by andgarden on Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 08:59:20 PM EST
    Major database problems still, it seems.

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    You jinxed it. (none / 0) (#9)
    by oculus on Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 09:01:58 PM EST
    It's going in and out (none / 0) (#10)
    by andgarden on Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 09:06:13 PM EST
    Hopefully this means someone is working on it!

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    Hope you are correct. Thought my (none / 0) (#12)
    by oculus on Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 09:23:34 PM EST
    laptop was dying--but--maybe not--yet.

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    working on what? (none / 0) (#17)
    by Jeralyn on Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 10:17:52 PM EST
    Since I don't even know what problems you are referring to, there is no one working on anything. What seems to be the problem? I'm not seeing anything odd.

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    Accessing user comments pages (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by andgarden on Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 10:24:15 PM EST
    has been slow for weeks. (e.g., here). Previously, it was a great way to keep track of responses.

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    that's probably because (none / 0) (#25)
    by Jeralyn on Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 11:57:35 PM EST
    you have so many comments and they all have to load. Try setting them to show more or less comments per page and see if that helps.

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    It was never a problem before (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by andgarden on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 12:43:53 AM EST
    and Oculus says that she started having the same problem around when I did.

    I'll give your suggestion a shot, though.

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    Me three on that (none / 0) (#61)
    by gyrfalcon on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 10:56:39 AM EST
    Used to be lickity split, now I'm playing solitaire while I'm waiting.

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    Though I don't see where to do that (none / 0) (#28)
    by andgarden on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 12:45:29 AM EST
    When you're on a comments page (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by Harry Saxon on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 08:40:35 AM EST
    you'll see right under the commentators' name the word "Results" along with the number of comments on that page.

    You can change it from the default of 30 to more or less using the drop-down arrow next to the number.

    Hope this helps!

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    Plus, andgarden hasn't been (5.00 / 1) (#67)
    by oculus on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 11:26:59 AM EST
    commenting here all that much as of late.  Unfortunately.

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    More responsibilities (5.00 / 2) (#83)
    by andgarden on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 08:29:26 PM EST
    I'm editing a journal now (and looking for a job. . .)

    But I appreciate that you've noticed my absence!

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    Speaking of Comments ... (none / 0) (#29)
    by Ellie on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 12:56:31 AM EST
    Is anyone else having probs with Echo comments?

    I'm trying the IE9 Beta browser and can't load the Digby (Echo, not Haloscan) comments at all now, even though Hullabaloo (and the Echo site) are trusted sites on my security options.

    Weird thing is that it's also happening on my Firefox.

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    I can't get (5.00 / 1) (#54)
    by Zorba on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 09:48:39 AM EST
    the Echo comments on Hullabaloo to load, either, Ellie.  I tried on both Firefox and Internet Explorer.  This has happened (at least, for me) in the past.  I'll try again later, and if it's still a problem, will email Digby.

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    Same here (5.00 / 1) (#62)
    by gyrfalcon on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 11:00:00 AM EST
    I'm not seeing the log-in or registration, either.  Also using Firefox, btw.

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    I emailed (5.00 / 1) (#70)
    by Zorba on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 11:54:32 AM EST
    Digby.  Maybe it will be fixed soon.  Told her a couple of people were having problems, not just me.

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    I e-mailed (none / 0) (#71)
    by Zorba on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 11:55:12 AM EST
    Digby.  Maybe it will be fixed soon.  Told her a couple of people were having problems, not just me.

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    Sorry for the double post. (5.00 / 1) (#72)
    by Zorba on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 11:56:15 AM EST
    Please delete one, TL.

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    I received a reply (5.00 / 1) (#77)
    by Zorba on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 12:36:36 PM EST
    to my e-mail to Digby- they're working on it, and the comments should be back up later today.

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    This farmer sounds like a regular (5.00 / 2) (#20)
    by andgarden on Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 10:35:14 PM EST
    Salmonela Republican? (5.00 / 1) (#30)
    by Rojas on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 07:27:33 AM EST
    "Tyson and Foster Farms brand chickens had the worst records, with less than 20 percent free of either pathogen."
    I guess it should not occur to people that when you empower the worst industry practitioners that they may in turn poison people for profit. And with the lowest common denominator staking the deck it becomes the standard in which that business is done.  

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    In Which I Cut Steny Hoyer a Tiny Bit of Slack (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by ruffian on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 08:56:09 AM EST
    this mortning on the Bill Press XM radio show I heard Steny Hoyer explain his 'I'm open for tax cuts for the wealthy' remarks. He said politely he was a little misinterpreted - the reporter he was talking to was wonder boy Luke Russert (is he an official reporter now?), who apparently asked him a few times if he was willing to compromise. It sounded like it was phrased in the family style, like 'for the love of god, aren't you willing to compromise?' and Hoyer finally said well, I'll sit down and talk to anyone.

    I prefer the Rangel style of telling any Russert he is asking stupid questions. Wish that tradition had started 20 years ago.

    Definitely a tactic all Dems need to adopt (none / 0) (#40)
    by MO Blue on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 09:04:09 AM EST
    ... the Rangel style of telling any Russert he is asking stupid questions.


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    I wish they would (5.00 / 1) (#46)
    by ruffian on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 09:18:14 AM EST
    We are long past the time when being nice to the press did any good.

    Hoyer made another good point (maybe I just caught him on a god day) - when the Gallup poll showing Dems down by 10 points came out a few weeks ago, it was shouted from the rooftops. Gallup yesterday showed Dems up by 1 - and you can hear the crickets chirping.

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    JJJr (2.00 / 1) (#1)
    by BTAL on Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 08:00:48 PM EST
    is just as despicable as his dad.  The apple didn't fall far from the tree.

    As this ball of yarn plays out, more of the seedy under belly of ChiTown politics will be revealed.

    May I be so bold as to enquire what (5.00 / 2) (#6)
    by oculus on Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 08:54:59 PM EST
    you have against Jesse Jackson, Sr.?

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    the whole civil rights (5.00 / 2) (#21)
    by Socraticsilence on Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 10:46:56 PM EST
    movement thing probably- I mean look at those pictures of him with that known Communist MLK.

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    Jesse Jackson was probably a (none / 0) (#23)
    by oculus on Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 11:03:11 PM EST
    mole, though.

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    ..you hope. (none / 0) (#24)
    by jondee on Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 11:28:30 PM EST
    Also of interest on Jackson, Jr. (none / 0) (#4)
    by MO Blue on Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 08:23:35 PM EST
    from AP

    Jackson also addressed Nayak's claim to the FBI that he purchased plane tickets for a woman Nayak identified as a "social acquaintance" of Jackson.

    "The reference to a social acquaintance is a private and personal matter between me and my wife that was handled some time ago," Jackson said. "I ask that you respect our privacy."

    His wife, Chicago Alderman Sandi Jackson, who also is considering a mayoral run, issued her own statement later Tuesday saying the issue was one her family had been "privately addressing for two years."

    More details on social acquaintance in Jeralyn's  Sun Times link.

    No tears to shed for JJJr,

    Gallup poll showing (none / 0) (#5)
    by MO Blue on Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 08:27:57 PM EST
    a majority of Americans from all political ideologies now support a third party.

    Americans' desires for a third political party are as high as they have been in seven years. Fifty-eight percent of Americans believe a third major political party is needed because the Republican and Democratic Parties do a poor job of representing the American people. That is a significant increase from 2008 and ties the high Gallup has recorded for this measure since 2003.

        [snip]

    The desire for a third party is fairly similar across ideological groups, with 61% of liberals, 60% of moderates, and 54% of conservatives believing a third major party is needed. That is a narrower gap than Gallup has found in the past; conservatives have typically been far less likely than liberals and moderates to support the creation of a third party.

    Left Coaster



    San Francisco is playing the Cubbies (none / 0) (#7)
    by oculus on Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 08:58:02 PM EST
    and San Diego is about to take on the Dodgers.  Who needs a "reality" show?  This is the real deal. Hope we aren't rained out at tomorrow's game at Dodger Stadium. Beat L.A.!!!!!

    The hits keep coming (none / 0) (#15)
    by glanton on Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 09:59:43 PM EST
    Just another day in GOP Land

    J (none / 0) (#19)
    by CoralGables on Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 10:30:04 PM EST
    Perhaps a little confusion between David Hasselhoff and Elisabeth Hasselbeck leading to the above typo?

    Has challenging people (none / 0) (#22)
    by Socraticsilence on Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 10:48:26 PM EST
    to "Bring it on" ever worked out well outside of movies?

    Nobody could fill a suit on a balcony (none / 0) (#26)
    by Harry Saxon on Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 11:59:20 PM EST
    in Hawaii like Jack Lord.

    Youtube Intro from the original series.

    Click Me

    Hawaii Five Ho

    Dear Gawd (none / 0) (#31)
    by MO Blue on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 08:40:20 AM EST
    Might just be time to check out the immigration criteria in other countries. It is bad enough when people like Levi Johnson, Angle and O'Donnell are taken seriously as people qualified to run local and federal political positions but this is beyond what is even crazy.

    To prep for a what he believes will be a 2012 presidential run, John Bolton is getting much more outwardly political and election oriented. He's now partnering with something called the 'Nationwide Tea Party Coalition' to sponsor a big election day event, the Election Day Tea Party. TPM


    OMG. I'm with you. Where are we moving? (none / 0) (#34)
    by ruffian on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 08:47:21 AM EST
    Open to suggestions (none / 0) (#43)
    by MO Blue on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 09:11:54 AM EST
    A reasonably sane population reflected in the government they chose.

    Must be affordable (Midwest affordable not NYC affordable) as I have a limited income.

    Good health care a must.

    Would prefer warm but could do cold if necessary.

    Don't do well with languages (even English) so it would be nice if there were people that could understand me or were patient with my bungling their language.

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    New Zealand is (none / 0) (#63)
    by gyrfalcon on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 11:01:58 AM EST
    pretty much all there is, not that it's perfect.

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    I would like that! (5.00 / 1) (#65)
    by ruffian on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 11:12:45 AM EST
    I'd love to get back to a mountainous land.

    Also thinking of an old beaux from NZ....

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    Who do the Republicans have at this time? (none / 0) (#36)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 08:52:44 AM EST
    Mittens.....but the South isn't going to be happy with a Mittens.  Everyone else has too much crank factor though to garner a dependable Indy vote.

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    Even the Republican can not be that desperate (none / 0) (#39)
    by MO Blue on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 09:01:23 AM EST
    Bolton is beyond nuts. Talk about too much of a crank factor though to garner a dependable Indy vote. World War III would be more than possible within 6 months of his election.

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    Damned thing about him though (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 09:10:30 AM EST
    is that I think he could actually hold some appeal for indies, since the U.N. is seen by some as just another corrupt failure.  And he's butthead dispicable enough to those who are less than that the South could stomach him, even though in many respects is not "of their kind".

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    If Bolton could actually appeal (5.00 / 1) (#44)
    by MO Blue on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 09:13:35 AM EST
    to indies, this country may be beyond saving.

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    I think only indies that break right (none / 0) (#45)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 09:17:10 AM EST
    not those that break left.  Could he beat Obama?  I can't seriously see how but I never thought Dubya could win a second term either.  He seems to me to have the personality of a cockroach.

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    The Arkansas governor/preacher. (none / 0) (#79)
    by oldpro on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 01:26:42 PM EST
    Good New Yorker profile covers him well.

    Major flaw...can't raise $$$.  So far.

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    Holy Mother of God... (none / 0) (#48)
    by Anne on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 09:23:06 AM EST
    John Bolton?  That's chilling.  And stomach-turning.

    Probably good news for Mitt Romney, though - Bolton makes Romney look normal and sane.


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    Democratic insanity (none / 0) (#33)
    by MO Blue on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 08:47:18 AM EST
    Sen. Ben Nelson (D-NE) now tells TPM he's "not inclined" to filibuster an extension of the Bush middle-income tax cuts, even if they're not paired with a tax cut for the wealthy. He does, however, want a temporary extension of the high-income tax cuts at a minimum -- and he wants it to be paid for with unspent stimulus funds. TPM

    Shorter version: F@ck people without jobs, I support only the rich.  

    I watched Michelle Pfeiffer (none / 0) (#35)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 08:50:23 AM EST
    and Kathy Bates in 'Cherie' last night.  I loved it, my husband went to sleep.  I'm recording 'The Young Victoria' for tonight.  They are havesting the peanuts and cotton now, everyone is sick around here.  We could use a rain to rain all the gunk out of the air.  It hasn't rained in a month.  The soil is much drier than usual.  I hear it is making for a great harvest but it is also throwing all sorts of stuff in the air and wiping people out.

    i'll get that one (none / 0) (#38)
    by ruffian on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 08:57:25 AM EST
    I liked 'the Young Victoria' a lot - hope you like it!

    Also, I watched 'Taking Woodstock' the other night with some friends and we all loved it. Very well done.

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    I will reserve that (none / 0) (#41)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 09:07:17 AM EST
    I've been starving for a few decent flicks :)

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    Can't be! (none / 0) (#47)
    by NYShooter on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 09:23:00 AM EST
    Cuomo's lead down to 6 points 49-43 over Paladino.  NYT

    NY loves.. (none / 0) (#66)
    by kdog on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 11:13:21 AM EST
    corporate welfare recipient con-artists...who knew?

    Totally figures that the person who has made the most honest living in the race is the ex-con, Kristin Davis...I hope her and Charles Barron get in on the debates, if you're on the ballot you deserve a spot in any debates.

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    never watch CNN (none / 0) (#50)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 09:34:45 AM EST
    but last night for some reason I happened to catch this.  it was like a train wreck.  I couldnt stop watching:

    Accused pastor crusaded against homosexuals

    the most virulent anti gay crusader from the religious segment of anti gay gets caught with his, hands, in the cookie jar.

    so to speak.


    On Tuesday, two young men who were members of Long's New Birth Missionary Baptist Church filed lawsuits claiming he used his position as their spiritual counselor to coerce them into sexual relationships.


    more on the wages of sin (none / 0) (#51)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 09:37:06 AM EST
    Hey, Capt (none / 0) (#55)
    by Zorba on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 09:56:44 AM EST
    If you're looking for news of the very, very weird, check this out.  Unbelievable.  
    Hey, at least she wasn't texting or using a cell phone while driving.   ;-)

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    wow (none / 0) (#57)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 10:15:52 AM EST
    auto erotic

    pfft

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    You could tell from the previews (none / 0) (#73)
    by nyjets on Wed Sep 22, 2010 at 12:00:30 PM EST
    You could tell from the previews that Hawaii 5-0 was going to be an ultra-violent cop show, IOW shows that I try to avoid whenever possible.
    I prefer the cops shows that actual has some kind of real story behind it and tried not to make me sick to my stomach ie the law and orders show, (mostly), flashpoint, castle, the glades, and even the mentalist, when jane is not ticking me off.