Halloween Open Thread

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    MO Blue.... (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by kdog on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 12:45:15 PM EST
    Sick costume you had last year...musta been hard work to make such a good egg look so spooky!

    Happy Halloween kiddies...but the real fright comes next Tuesday, Election Day...few things scarier than a no win situation.

    Applying the makeup took over 2 hours (5.00 / 2) (#3)
    by MO Blue on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 12:56:07 PM EST
    I also spent an hour or so on youtube researching how to apply the makeup for the look I wanted . Finally decided I liked the eyes on one video, the face contouring on another and the lips on another one yet again.

    For anyone who missed it:

    MO Blue's 2013 prize winning Halloween costume.

    I definitely agree with you on the real fright:

    the real fright comes next Tuesday, Election Day...few things scarier than a no win situation.


    wow, that is very scary! (none / 0) (#9)
    by ruffian on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 01:42:52 PM EST
    Well done! I hope those are not your real teeth!

    Those are definitely not my real teeth (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by MO Blue on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 02:06:31 PM EST
    Only wore them long enough to smile at the judges and members of the audience when we paraded around to show off our costumes. They were not comfortable at all and they should make them in a different flavor other than plastic.

    Most people who stood too close backed up real quick when I smiled at them.


    speaking of which (none / 0) (#2)
    by CST on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 12:52:46 PM EST
    Other news outlets... (none / 0) (#4)
    by kdog on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 01:06:21 PM EST
    use the truth to tell lies, but our beloved Onion uses lies to tell the truth.

    Long live The Onion!


    Hows about some good jokes for Halloween (none / 0) (#5)
    by Uncle Chip on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 01:06:46 PM EST
    I'm told by people who move to St Louis from other parts of the country that having the kids tell jokes for their Halloween treats is a St Louis thing -- no joke and no bones about it.

    So if anyone has anyone good Halloween jokes, post away --


    Knock Knock.... (5.00 / 2) (#7)
    by kdog on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 01:34:45 PM EST
    Who's there?


    9/11 who?

    You said you'd never forget!


    That was the practice many years ago (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by MO Blue on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 01:34:58 PM EST
    In my neighborhood but I don't think it is still being done on a regular basis here in my subdivision.

    I haven't been home on Halloween the last couple of years but I gave up asking for a trick years ago when too many kids didn't know what I was talkng about and were completely unprepared to do a trick.

     Many  years ago my daughter came up with the perfect way.

    Halloween came a couple of months before her 2nd birthday. I spent some time teaching her to say "Trick or Treat." Dressed in her costume and  armed with her pumpkin for treats, we started through our neighborhood. All went well at the first two houses. She put out her pumpkin and  said a understandable version of "trick or treat." Well things went downhill at the 3rd house. Out went the pumpkin along with a one word demand for "CANDY."  Nothing I said convinced her that she should go back to saying the correct refrain and it was candy for the rest of the night.


    Oh, Lord! (none / 0) (#17)
    by Zorba on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 02:24:14 PM EST
    This used to happen way back in the Pleistocene, when my siblings and I went out on Halloween.  We either used to be expected to come up with a joke when asked, or, for the younger kids, it was expected that they would sing a funny little song or something.
    Yes, I think it's a St. Louis thing.
    The other thing I remember is that the police used to drive around in our area, and pass out bags of chips and other goodies to the kids.  Yes, I know that they were patrolling for any Halloween mischief, but I always used to think that it was nice that they passed out treats to the kids, smiled at them, complimented the costumes, and so on.
    I'm betting they don't do that any more.

    Best guess that we are around the same age (none / 0) (#18)
    by MO Blue on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 02:31:38 PM EST
    give or take a few years.

    I don't think that the police did that in any of the neighborhoods where I lived as a child. Never saw them giving out candy in the neighborhood where I live now and where my children grew up.


    Well, they did (none / 0) (#23)
    by Zorba on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 02:47:10 PM EST
    do that in my suburb, but that was probably peculiar to our particular area.
    And as I said, I'm really betting they don't do that any more.  
    Especially not in Northern St. Louis County, where I used to live.  Not Ferguson, but not all that very far from there.

    Wasn't doubting your account (none / 0) (#38)
    by MO Blue on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 03:32:25 PM EST
    It just never to my knowledge happened where I lived.

    As to Ferguson this year:

    FERGUSON, Mo. - Concerned parents and residents of one St. Louis community prompted an idea to change a holiday tradition.

    'I Love Ferguson' is planning an alternative Halloween celebration for some families who felt unsafe opening their doors and letting children walk the streets this year.

    "I started hearing concerns from parents about, should they send their children out at night on Halloween, and they didn't want to open their door for trick or treaters like they normally do, and it really saddened me to hear that," Brian Fletcher, chairman for the "I Love Ferguson" Committee said.

    "I think that nobody would harm our children, but I can't change the way people feel, and so I came up with an alternative," Fletcher said.

    Give up (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by jbindc on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 02:12:13 PM EST
    That is a great costume (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by MO Blue on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 02:22:19 PM EST
    Some Republicans might find it scarier than mine

    That really made my laugh out loud (none / 0) (#34)
    by ruffian on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 03:10:18 PM EST
    Wish I had a baby to dress up!

    No quaranteen for Kaci Hickox (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by MO Blue on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 02:14:38 PM EST
    Judge rejects Ebola quarantine for nurse

    FORT KENT, Maine (AP) -- A Maine judge has given nurse Kaci Hickox the OK to go wherever she pleases, handing state officials a defeat in their bid to isolate her.
    The judge is requiring only daily monitoring and said she's not a threat to the public. In his ruling, the judge wrote that "people are acting out of fear and that this fear is not entirely rational."

    I am so glad to hear this. (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by Anne on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 03:02:56 PM EST
    The whole thing, from her being hustled into an unheated tent upon arrival in the US to being harassed and treated as if she represents a biological weapon, is just appalling.  I'm embarrassed, actually, that in a country that likes to claim it is so advanced, the voices of reason and science have been drowned out by the Neanderthals perpetuating the idea that simply by being in the presence of someone who was physically located in a region where Ebola is present is so dangerous we have to essentially jail people for weeks at a time.  "Can't be too careful," right?  "Better to be safe than sorry!"  Easy for someone to say who isn't going to have to give up three weeks of his or her life out of an abundance of caution.

    Yes, I know Hickox actually treated Ebola patients, but the woman isn't sick.  She's tested negative each and every time she's been tested.  She has no symptoms, no fever, nothing.  No one who has been in her presence, sat next to her on an airplane, stood in line with her for coffee or to board a plane, has fallen ill.  

    The way they've treated this woman, I keep expecting someone to suggest that maybe the reason she isn't sick is because she's...a witch!  Seriously, when do we light the bonfires and hold witch trials?

    Finally, someone in authority has acted in a manner befitting the facts - and surprise, surprise! - it wasn't a politician.  

    Really, it's just embarrassing.


    Thank You Your Honor... (none / 0) (#22)
    by kdog on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 02:47:01 PM EST
    Suck on that Lepage!

    Wise Guy and Maine Governor, Paul LePage: (none / 0) (#30)
    by KeysDan on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 03:07:01 PM EST
    October 30, " Right now she can come out of her house if she wants, but we can't protect her when she does that.  The reason there is a police car there when she does that is to protect her. Cause the last thing I want is for her to get hurt.  But at the same token her behavior is really riling a lot of people and I can only do what I can do. And we are trying to protect her, but she 's not acting as smart as she probably should."

    Translation:  Yeah, and that sure is a nice boyfriend you have there Kaci, a shame if anything happened to his knee caps.   Nothing much I can do, I just hope no one comes over to your place at 525 Willow, NE, and removes those red shutters and crawls in your unlocked window to the left of the red door,  with an axe or something.   Our folks are real nervous and all, even quarantining anyone who has been in Dallas, and I can't blame them, at least until after the election.


    CNN Health, (none / 0) (#35)
    by KeysDan on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 03:10:56 PM EST
    What a classy guy - not (none / 0) (#40)
    by MO Blue on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 03:50:10 PM EST
    Surprised he didn't start out by saying that he was making her an offer she couldn't refuse.

    Definitely deserves to lose his election this year.


    From our "Heads A-Poppin" file: (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 02:44:43 PM EST
    "I'll be very, very honest with you. The South has not always been the friendliest place for African-Americans. It's been a difficult time for the president to present himself in a very positive light as a leader."
    - Sen. Mary Landrieu, to NBC News (October 30, 2014)

    White Republicans are now demanding that Sen. Landrieu apologize for her remark, because she hurt their feelings by stating the painfully obvious. Well, if she won't express her regrets, then I will.

    I'm very, very sorry that white America is still chock full o'Crackers.

    Honestly, there are still days when I couldn't be more sorry.


    If you're a Dem in Colorado.... (none / 0) (#6)
    by magster on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 01:10:42 PM EST
    Deliver your vote by hand to drop-off box. It's too risky to mail. Gardner and Beauprez will be horrid representatives for Colorado.

    Beauprez is horrible - he was (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by ruffian on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 01:45:07 PM EST
    already horrible when I lived there. The thought of him on a national stage is truly frightening.

    Soooooooo, I used to have high speed (none / 0) (#11)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 01:46:07 PM EST
    Internet.  But we have had problems in the past few months, mostly visited Joshua and online gaming.  Time Warner called me today to make me an offer so that I can have the "high speed" internet.  The salesperson said that the internet difficulties we have experienced are probably to do us not having their highest speed internet.  I guess I have low speed internet right now...for $70 a month.  But I get this marvey upgrade for free if they take over my television service, which in the end saves me nothing when compared to what I am currently paying the services we are being provided.

    I told her I must investigate this offer.  I am getting a call back on Tuesday.

    How did I move from high speed internet for $70 a month to low speed internet for $70 a month?

    Forget it, MT (none / 0) (#14)
    by Zorba on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 02:14:26 PM EST
    It's Time Warner.   :-(
    Sorry about that, but they all seem to do sh!t like this.  Promising one thing, then delivering another.
    Cable companies offering high-speed Internet and changing the terms.  (And they change the offerings on their cable TV, as well- you think you're getting certain channels, and then they disappear and others that you don't really want are added).
    Cell phone companies offering "unlimited data plans" that aren't really unlimited.
    What can I say?  

    40 Bucks for 12MB/sec... (none / 0) (#25)
    by ScottW714 on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 02:48:42 PM EST
    ...is pretty standard with $10 in fees.

    Go HERE to see what speed you have, run it when it's slow and run it after dinner when the web is busiest.  It should be the same.

    12Mb/sec is fast enough to run Netflix on two TV's, but most of that isn't 1080p.

    How old is your router ?  Every time I think there is a internet speed issue, first thing I do is reset my router, which can be done from your computer.  That fixes it 95% of the time and the correct way, unplugging it can corrupt the settings.

    This should be done once a month if you have a lot of devises connected.  At any given time, I have two computers, two phones, two TV's, Direct TV, and DVR connected.  I think, but don't know, that creates IP issues and resetting it clears the cache.  Even when they aren't used, they stay somewhat connected so when you do use them it doesn't take 5 mins to reconnected.

    The other 5% has been the router getting old.

    You can also test your modem by connecting direct to it with a laptop using the cord that goes to the router, if that is fast, but the wireless isn't, get a new router.  I would say I have replaced my router every 2 years.

    I would say 6 is slow, 12 good, and 24 fast.

    12Mb is 1.5MB, the number used in your file manager.

    Speedtest also has an app that can test your data on your phone or your wireless at home.

    Comcast doesn't even charge $70 for their BLAST, which is 50mb/sec.


    I got (none / 0) (#29)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 03:04:47 PM EST
    60. Is that good? It's supposed to be high speed internet but if they gave me something else I probably would not know.

    All their pricing games.... (none / 0) (#33)
    by ruffian on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 03:08:51 PM EST
    my cable co is coming out with what they say are higher speeds for everyone at every tier....I'm sure price hikes will follow..

    Two thoughts (none / 0) (#39)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 03:33:43 PM EST
    1. What was high speed in the past is no longer high speed today. The question is, did it work ok before gaming? If so, the gaming is what's sucking up a lot of bandwidth.

    2. If you get a higher speed for the same price as you were paying for a lower speed that's a good deal.

    Surprised no one posted this (none / 0) (#19)
    by jbindc on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 02:34:18 PM EST
    But not really.

    On the Other Side of Ferguson's Protest Lines, Officers Face New Threats

    Just 11 weeks ago, on the morning of Aug. 9, the Ferguson Police Department was an unremarkable Midwestern force, with 54 officers -- 50 of them white -- in a city of 21,000 that is two-thirds black. By nightfall, it had been transformed into something approximating the occupying force of a white power structure.

    Since then, frustration from years of racial profiling and harassment, perceived and real, has poured out. Ferguson has become a flash point, its police department now a symbol of jackbooted oppression.

    Some of the actions taken by the Ferguson police after Mr. Brown's death certainly fueled the ensuing outcry: leaving the body in the street for several hours, for example, and using heavy-handed force during the protests, at which hateful things were said from both sides of the so-called skirmish line.

    But there is another side to this tragedy's aftermath. It is not the only side, or the opposite side. Just another side.

    "What I can't understand is the constant hate," Ms. Johnson said. "And the failure to be patient until there's a thorough investigation."

    These days, Ferguson police officers say that they live as though someone out there intends to do them harm. They no longer wear their uniforms to or from work. They vary their routes back home. A few have relocated their families.

    Even a simple stop for a soda at the Circle K has become unsettling, because of what the police describe as social-media talk about catching Ferguson officers off guard at the convenience store -- and shooting them in the head.

    "You are constantly wondering," Sgt. Mike Wood, a Ferguson native, said. "I know I didn't sign up with Burger King, but...."


    The chief said people should not forget that some of the protests over these past two and a half months have been violent. "The reality was, it was a deadly-force situation," he said. "And nobody got hurt."

    But Chuck Wexler, the executive director of the Police Executive Research Forum in Washington, said that the Ferguson Police Department was paying a price for failing to develop a stronger relationship with its African-American constituency.

    "They're trying to build trust from a defensive position instead of having done it beforehand," Mr. Wexler said. "They have a difficult job."

    That job will not get easier anytime soon. The expectation in the basement police headquarters is that if the grand jury indicts Officer Wilson, there will be unrest, and if it does not indict Officer Wilson, there will be unrest.

    Seems like a no-win situation.

    I wonder how (none / 0) (#20)
    by sj on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 02:41:43 PM EST
     many warrants are out there for the cops

    A report issued just last week by the nonprofit lawyer's group ArchCity Defenders notes that in the court's 36 three-hour sessions in 2013, it handled 12,108 cases and 24,532 warrants. That is an average of 1.5 cases and three warrants per Ferguson household. Fines and court fees for the year in this city of just 21,000 people totaled $2,635,400.

    As soon as I find my teeny-tiny (none / 0) (#36)
    by Anne on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 03:20:09 PM EST
    violin, I will play a sad little tune for the poor, benighted members of the Ferguson Police Department.

    Yes, I'm sure there are good cops in Ferguson, but even they bear some responsibility for the current state of affairs, to the extent their silence or denial has enabled the culture there to thrive.  Not saying it's right for citizens to issue death threats, or threats of violence - it's not - but it just seems to me that the anger of those who haven't been abusing their power ought to be directed at the fellow members of the FPD who have been.

    The feelings expressed in your excerpt remind me of the ones expressed by Chief Jackson, in the immediate wake of the Michael Brown shooting: that this was also a tragedy for Darren Wilson.  Poor Darren.  Let's all shed a tear for him.

    Kinda sounds like this: "We know we've been treating you people like dirt for years and years, taking your money for ticky-tack reasons, making it hard to resolve the tickets and citations, stopping you whenever we wanted and making your lives miserable, and now, thanks to that thug Michael Brown, the whole world knows what we've been up to, but golly, you don't have to snap at us like that - we're people, too!"

    And the FPD wonders why they have a problem.


    Long before Brown (none / 0) (#37)
    by MO Blue on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 03:24:09 PM EST
    Police Officers Are More Likely to Shoot Black Men, Studies Suggest

    That study was conducted in 2001.

    Wilson claims he killed an unarmed black teenager because he feared for his life. Was that fear based on the actual deaths of Ferguson police officers while on duty? Anyone want to take a guess of how many on duty police officers were killed by black men since the data was tracked sometime around 1836?

    Well Wilson came from the Jennings Police Department. Maybe there was a large number of police officers shot down in the line of duty while he was there. Anyone want to guess how many on duty police officers were killed by black men in the last 25 years?


    It's so freakin cold here (none / 0) (#24)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 02:47:51 PM EST
    going to be low 20s tonight.  If I went Trick or Treating it would be as an Eskimo.
    Here is my contribution to the mood

    Victorian photography of the dead

    Adding (none / 0) (#26)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 02:51:50 PM EST
    i had a childhood friend who lived with his grandmother.  Evertime I would stay over she put us in a room filled with these creepy a$$ed photos of dead children.  I suspected she didn't like me.

    There is so much pathos (none / 0) (#27)
    by sj on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 03:00:43 PM EST
    in some of those photographs.

    I have this friend (none / 0) (#31)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 03:07:54 PM EST
    who enjoys Halloween a lot.  He has an annual event described in this YouTube video.  This is his current FaceBook profile photo.  Yes that's him.  Also the host of the video.

    Brandywine Cemetery has a website.

    Well (none / 0) (#32)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 03:08:46 PM EST
    I bought 100 pieces of candy. My husband says is that enough? I frankly have no idea. He said last year you ran out. I said well, there are years when I have had a ton left over. It's going to be cold here so I've probably got enough candy. Cold weather seems to keep them away.

    Just saw a really (none / 0) (#41)
    by oculus on Fri Oct 31, 2014 at 03:55:28 PM EST
    puzzling costume. Quailman