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    Testing (5.00 / 2) (#5)
    by NYShooter on Fri Jun 11, 2010 at 06:10:04 PM EST
    How to Link.

    My first time; I'm sooo excited.

    Can't believe THIS is America?

    yahoo! I think I got it.

    Well linked...:) (5.00 / 0) (#11)
    by kdog on Fri Jun 11, 2010 at 06:58:20 PM EST
    and ain't it funny how the people who love them some surveillance equipment balk when the tables are turned.

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    Nice (none / 0) (#7)
    by squeaky on Fri Jun 11, 2010 at 06:32:36 PM EST
    And it's like riding a bicycle, once you have it.......

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    good job linking..... (none / 0) (#12)
    by ZtoA on Fri Jun 11, 2010 at 07:46:18 PM EST
    extremely chilling link! Mechanical reproduction is changing systems.

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    Well done! (none / 0) (#13)
    by ruffian on Fri Jun 11, 2010 at 09:05:22 PM EST
    You make us proud!

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    Mov'n on up (none / 0) (#14)
    by NYShooter on Fri Jun 11, 2010 at 09:44:45 PM EST
    Now, how would one link to a picture, or photo, let's say off of your desktop, or picture folder? It doesn't have a url, does it?
    What does one do??

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    Hmm (none / 0) (#15)
    by squeaky on Fri Jun 11, 2010 at 09:56:51 PM EST
    I think you have to set up an account with flicker or something like that and upload your pic, then link.

    You can't link to your desktop.

     

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    Yep (none / 0) (#16)
    by ruffian on Fri Jun 11, 2010 at 10:04:50 PM EST
    Capt Howdy does that. I forgot which picture sight he uses, but there are several free ones.  If you have mobile me with Apple you can do it to. When you upload the picture the page will hav a URL.

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    capt howdy has used imageshack (none / 0) (#23)
    by The Addams Family on Fri Jun 11, 2010 at 11:13:00 PM EST


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    Use Photobucket (none / 0) (#20)
    by Inspector Gadget on Fri Jun 11, 2010 at 10:50:03 PM EST
    if you use Flickr people can scroll through all of the photos you save there.

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    Thank you (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by NYShooter on Fri Jun 11, 2010 at 06:15:32 PM EST
    Squeaky, Capt, Ruffian, waldenpond

    Don't know why I've had such a hard time with this "link" stuff.

    I mean, I can dress myself in the morning, even have a pilot's license, but linking? Yuch.

    Thanks again, y'all.

    its ok (none / 0) (#24)
    by Capt Howdy on Sat Jun 12, 2010 at 07:54:15 AM EST
    I always need help with printers.

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    Last time Peru made it (none / 0) (#1)
    by LatinoDC on Fri Jun 11, 2010 at 05:24:29 PM EST
    to the wc was in 1982. That means we haven't made it during my lifetime.  However, I've lived every world cup in Peru, and people are sooo crazy about it (including me).  Makes me wonder what would happen if we were actually in it....

    If y'all were actually in it? (none / 0) (#3)
    by Jen M on Fri Jun 11, 2010 at 05:39:01 PM EST
    Banks closed, streets empty, crime down -- whenever Peru played.

    During the '78 games I was in HS in Costa Rica. People were all into it. Buses were silent as the radio broadcast games, my classmates had small ear buds coming up from their shirts...

    It was a time of joy and enthusiasm and their team wasn't even in it.  I wish I had been there when they did. I hear it was jubilation.

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    Were you there later? (none / 0) (#8)
    by MKS on Fri Jun 11, 2010 at 06:38:23 PM EST
    Did you get refugees fleeing the 1979 coup in Nicaragua?

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    by then (none / 0) (#9)
    by Jen M on Fri Jun 11, 2010 at 06:44:40 PM EST
    I was back in the States. But I was there before the coup when Nicaragua came within a hairs breadth of being at war with Costa Rica. There was a unfortunate incident involving stray military actions and the Ticos called on the OAS to back them up.

    My male classmates were rarin to go to war with Nicaragua. It was horrible. War fever is a damned scary thing.

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    yep (none / 0) (#10)
    by MKS on Fri Jun 11, 2010 at 06:58:05 PM EST


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    Oklahoma State Senator (none / 0) (#2)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Jun 11, 2010 at 05:33:48 PM EST
    Aims To Stop 'Liberal Judges' From Imposing Sharia Law

    you cant make this stuff up

    Don't you just love election year? (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by ruffian on Fri Jun 11, 2010 at 10:26:40 PM EST
    The scary thing is that this will win him more votes than he loses.

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    You need to familarize yourself (none / 0) (#17)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Jun 11, 2010 at 10:13:17 PM EST
    with what has happened in England.

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    jim i think 2 thngs are possible (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by The Addams Family on Fri Jun 11, 2010 at 11:10:09 PM EST
    1. to take seriously the sincere concerns of thoughtful conservative & liberal writers like Ayaan Hirsi Ali (Nomad), Melanie Phillips (Londonistan), Bruce Bawer (While Europe Slept) & Paul Berman (Terror and Liberalism) - the left should not dismiss these writers out of hand imo

    2. to reject American jingoism of the "America is a Christian country" variety, especially when it's part of a thinly veiled program of supposedly discrediting liberals & Democrats with false claims that President Obama is a "Muslim" (i am not saying you are doing that)


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    I dont know, would a person (5.00 / 2) (#38)
    by jondee on Sat Jun 12, 2010 at 05:13:25 PM EST
    who only referred to Obama as "Hussein" for months at their own website, qualify as some who was pushing the Obama-is-a-secret-Muslim line?

    It would seem that way to me.

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    I think he used his middle name (none / 0) (#41)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Jun 13, 2010 at 12:15:04 AM EST
    during the swearing in ceremony...

    Am I not to follow his example????

    lol

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    He did - as is tradition (none / 0) (#44)
    by Yman on Sun Jun 13, 2010 at 11:08:43 AM EST
    Link

    President-elect Obama has said he plans to take the oath of office using his full name "Barack Hussein Obama" as other presidents -- though not all of them -- traditionally have done...

    During the campaign, his detractors repeatedly referred to him as "Hussein" in a vain attempt to perpetuate an Internet-fueled myth that Obama, who is a Christian, is Muslim...

    "I think the tradition is that they use all three names, and I will follow the tradition. I'm not trying to make a statement one way or another. I'll do what everybody else does."

    He was doing it because Presidents traditionally use their middle name when they are sworn in.

    Gee .... I wonder why you were doing it. ...

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    Because it is my tradition to (none / 0) (#49)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Jun 13, 2010 at 04:20:04 PM EST
    call politicians whatever I want to call them.

    Not what they want to be called.

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    Exactly (none / 0) (#52)
    by Yman on Sun Jun 13, 2010 at 08:13:37 PM EST
    ... and we all know why you want to call him (as you did for months on your own blog before the inauguration), Barack Hussein Obama.

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    Because (none / 0) (#53)
    by jondee on Sun Jun 13, 2010 at 08:41:48 PM EST
    Osama Bin Hussein Obama was too long.

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    I still do (none / 0) (#54)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Jun 14, 2010 at 07:21:09 AM EST
    but I respect TL's desires here.

    Hope that is not too difficult for you.

    You know, kinda like not drinking or smoking in someone's home who doesn't want it done.

    And wow! Calling Presidents iconic names.... Glad to know I am the first person who ever did that.

    lol

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    Definitely not the first (none / 0) (#58)
    by Yman on Mon Jun 14, 2010 at 08:35:07 AM EST
    Orly Taitz, Anne Coulter, Stormfront, white supremacy groups .... they all love to use a particular "iconic" name when referring to Obama.

    Hope that's not too difficult for you, Jimbob.

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    heh (none / 0) (#50)
    by The Addams Family on Sun Jun 13, 2010 at 05:38:17 PM EST
    made me google

    pretty hardcore, dat

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    Yup (none / 0) (#51)
    by squeaky on Sun Jun 13, 2010 at 05:43:53 PM EST
    That's our ppj.... looong time commenter here at TL..  

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    Two web sites (none / 0) (#25)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Jun 12, 2010 at 08:52:50 AM EST
    BrusselsJournal

    IslamInEurope

    This has nothing to do with Obama any more than it has to do with Bush.

    Study what is going on in England and other EU countries.

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    of course i agree jim (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by The Addams Family on Sat Jun 12, 2010 at 11:08:55 AM EST
    U.S. judges should use only U.S. state & federal law in deciding cases

    i can even understand why a rightwing state senator would sincerely believe that "liberal" judges need this "preemptive strike" given his political views and the experience in Europe as related by the authors i cited & others - those accounts do at least form a coherent point of view that can be discussed & debated by intellectually responsible people

    but when an elected official in the US says that "Oklahomans recognize that America was founded on Judeo-Christian principles," that may be a fact about Oklahomans but it should have no relevance to making or ruling on laws in the US - so i take Duncan's words in this instance as boilerplate rightwing code

    & since to my knowledge - i could be wrong - there is not exactly a fifth column of Islamists in the state of Oklahoma or any threat of one, i think Duncan has introduced this measure in an election year as a not very subtle appeal to rightwing Christianist voters in his district who are known to be obsessed with a number of things including "liberal judges" & our "Muslim" president

    even if there is evidence that Oklahoma is on the verge of becoming Oklahomistan there is no need for Duncan to cite "Judeo-Christian principles" in the state's defense unless he is speaking jingo

    iow the issue addressed by Duncan's proposed legislation is already covered by the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the Constitution of the US - so i think Duncan is not sincere & i call BS on his proposed legislation for this reason & the others i mentioned

    just my 2 cents ;)


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    Huh? (none / 0) (#27)
    by squeaky on Sat Jun 12, 2010 at 11:19:57 AM EST
    i can even understand why a rightwing state senator would sincerely believe that "liberal" judges need this "preemptive strike"

    Really? It is called politics, fearmongering politics to be exact.

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    yes, that too (none / 0) (#34)
    by The Addams Family on Sat Jun 12, 2010 at 01:17:14 PM EST


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    Ah yes (none / 0) (#28)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Jun 12, 2010 at 11:50:27 AM EST
    the common laws of England have worked so well in keeping Shari law from being established. Not.

    And yes, no doubt that nothing in the US is being done that bends our laws....

    Muslim prayers in school.

    Minneapolis school builds religious facilities for Muslim students.

    Private Islamic school in VA teaches violence against Christians and Jews.


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    Yes (none / 0) (#29)
    by squeaky on Sat Jun 12, 2010 at 11:57:27 AM EST
    And don't forget to check under your bed.....

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    That you have no (none / 0) (#30)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Jun 12, 2010 at 12:07:30 PM EST
    respect for the Constitution is obvious.

    That you smear all you oppose is self evident.

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    Please Do Tell (none / 0) (#31)
    by squeaky on Sat Jun 12, 2010 at 12:09:52 PM EST
    What part of the constitution are you bedwetting about losing, this time?

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    You might start (none / 0) (#32)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Jun 12, 2010 at 12:55:19 PM EST
    with that bit about separation between church and state.

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    Really (none / 0) (#33)
    by squeaky on Sat Jun 12, 2010 at 01:05:50 PM EST
    Well we should immediately remove the in god we trust from the court rooms, swearing on the bible, and the phrase so help me god.

    Is that what you mean?

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    No, just a return to the formula (none / 0) (#35)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Jun 12, 2010 at 02:43:33 PM EST
    that stood the country in good stead for the last 200 years or so....

    Or shall we build altars for Christians and sponsor classroom prayers led by teachers????

    Maybe you should look under your bed.

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    Translation: (none / 0) (#36)
    by jondee on Sat Jun 12, 2010 at 04:49:19 PM EST
    the only challenges to the separation of church and state that the (christian) school vouchers, "faith-based initiatives" crowd is concerned about are
    the Islamic challenges to the separation of church and state..

    Or, has the Republican Party finally had enough and is preparing to cut the religious right loose?

    I didn't think so.

    Cuz we're all still Rapture Ready out here in Oklahoma..

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    Yeah (none / 0) (#37)
    by squeaky on Sat Jun 12, 2010 at 04:54:27 PM EST
    And what's up with christian altars bit? Is that some skull and bones reference to infidel sacrifice?

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    I see that both of you have no problem (1.00 / 1) (#40)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Jun 13, 2010 at 12:12:17 AM EST
    with tax payer money spent on Muslim religious requirements and Muslim prayer in school, including separation of the sexes.... but you dribble all over yourselves about any Christian activity that might come close to the border....

    That is typical and follows along with the Left tolerating honor killing of females, hanging of gays and stoning of women accused of infidelity.

    Your double standard is obvious.

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    lol (none / 0) (#43)
    by squeaky on Sun Jun 13, 2010 at 10:15:01 AM EST
    Not sure what you are babbling about, but I can assure you that the amount of taxpayer money spent on anything muslim, or Spanish, is incalculably trivial compared to the amount of taxpayer money spent on Christianity in the US.

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    Im all for nuetralizing (none / 0) (#48)
    by jondee on Sun Jun 13, 2010 at 02:04:06 PM EST
    the religious lunatic fringe that's closer to home and constantly assaulting the church-state divide, "that has kept us in good stead for 200 years", before we spend another hundred billion that we don't have in a never-ending search for monsters abroad.

     

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    Right wing support for school prayer (none / 0) (#45)
    by BackFromOhio on Sun Jun 13, 2010 at 11:32:41 AM EST
    Right wing support of school prayer has opened the door for religion -- of different stripes -- in the schools.  If the Constitution's support for separation of church and state (and the principles behind it) were observed, there would be no room for the religion of any group -- mine, yours, or anyone else's -- in the schools.  To support religious prayer in the schools on the one hand, but react in horror when that religion is other than yours, further undermines the principle of religious freedom on which this country was founded.  

    On a practical note, banning prayer by only certain religious groups in the schools, or wearing of religious garb, etc., to me is a form of discrimination that only promotes the view in members of that group that they cannot live in cooperation with those who are different from them and hardens the "us" vs. "them" thinking on both sides.  How many years ago thought Catholics and Jews could not live peacefully side by side in this country, with freedom to worship as well as full participation in our public institutions?  How wrong that was.  If we go back to the notions of freedom of religion and expression for all, I think we'd be able to see the commonalities among all of us. I am reminded of President Kennedy's speech at American University commencement in June 1964:

        "So, let us not be blind to our  differ-     ences - but let us also direct attention to our common interests and to means by which those differences can be resolved. And if we cannot end now our differences, at least we can help make the world safe for diversity. For, in the final analysis, our most basic common link is that we all inhabit this planet. We all breathe the same air. We all cherish our children's future. And we are all mortal."    Link to entire speech

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    Then you think it is okay (none / 0) (#55)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Jun 14, 2010 at 07:23:52 AM EST
    to segregate the sexes and have teachers of the Christian faith lead the prayers?

    Well, I don't. But that's just me.

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    I don't know where you (none / 0) (#57)
    by BackFromOhio on Mon Jun 14, 2010 at 08:14:51 AM EST
    get that from.

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    Did you bother to read my comment (none / 0) (#61)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Jun 14, 2010 at 12:03:28 PM EST
    with the links?

    Obviously not.

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    England ... (none / 0) (#47)
    by Yman on Sun Jun 13, 2010 at 12:01:33 PM EST
    ... allows parties to a lawsuit (presumably Muslims) to voluntarily use a Sharia court to act as an arbitrator to decide their suit if the parties choose to do so, just as they have allowed Jewish beth din court arbitrations for over 100 years.

    Maybe you should rely on mainstream news sites for information, rather than conservative/anti-Muslim sites.

    The facts are a lot less scary than the myths.

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    OMG (none / 0) (#18)
    by squeaky on Fri Jun 11, 2010 at 10:20:07 PM EST
    Another one who believes liberal judges will be using Sharia law on Americans. I don't know what they are serving at those tea parties, but you obviously have had too much.

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    You mean ... (none / 0) (#46)
    by Yman on Sun Jun 13, 2010 at 11:47:59 AM EST
    where both sides (presumably muslims) in a legal dispute voluntarily choose to have a Sharia court act as an arbitrator to resolve a civil dispute, just like Jewish beth din court arbitrations have been recognized in England for over 100 years?

    Link.

    wow ...... scary.

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    Yes (none / 0) (#56)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Jun 14, 2010 at 07:40:36 AM EST
    given how females are treated within in many Muslim sects it is frightening.

    I mean arbitration is supposedly agreed to by both sides.

    Rulings issued by a network of five sharia courts are enforceable with the full power of the judicial system, through the county courts or High Court.

    Previously, the rulings of sharia courts in Britain could not be enforced, and depended on voluntary compliance among Muslims.

    Link

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    No one here is agreeing ... (none / 0) (#59)
    by Yman on Mon Jun 14, 2010 at 08:50:21 AM EST
    ... with Sharia law, but you, like Sykes, are trying to scare people into believing it's about to take over in our country by making vague allegations about what has "happened in England".  In reality, it's only applied as a method of arbitrating a case when both sides voluntarily choose to have it applied, as opposed to "supposedly" agreeing to it.

    But, hey .... thanks for proving my point and linking to the very same article.

    BTW - Beth Din law (and some fundamentalist Christian sects) also have some very offensive principles, yet you don't seem concerned about those laws being applied here.

    Interesting.

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    What he is doing and what I am doing (none / 0) (#60)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Jun 14, 2010 at 12:02:10 PM EST
    is two different things.

    Yes. I think what happens in England and Europe re Muslim immigration and actions is relevant because it gives a look into our own future.

    And when you can show me that the Jews and some Christian sects have a track record of killing people and trying to take over the country call collect.

    And keep your strawmen away from open flames.

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    our future (none / 0) (#64)
    by CST on Mon Jun 14, 2010 at 12:31:31 PM EST
    is not really comparable to Europe regarding immigration because we have a vastly different demographic.

    The immigrant population in England and Europe largely comes from Muslim nations.  That's not the case here as Mexicans and other South Americans are overwhelmingly Christian.  Muslims will never have the same kind of political influence here that they can have in Europe for that reason.

    I am not gonna touch any of your other statements with a 10 foot pole because I'm trying to be civil.  But rest assured, your fear is not founded in demographic reality.

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    Jim's one of those (none / 0) (#67)
    by jondee on Mon Jun 14, 2010 at 02:22:32 PM EST
    people who have recurring nightmares that involve being chased by Mexican Muslims.

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    Okay - If it's "two different ..." (none / 0) (#65)
    by Yman on Mon Jun 14, 2010 at 02:13:21 PM EST
    "... things", what are you suggesting is so bad about what happened in England and how that portends for the future of our country?  Because you're suggesting there's something bad happening in England that could happen in our country, without spelling it out.  Are you worried that people in our country might be able to voluntarily choose to arbitrate their civil disputes under Sharia (or some other religious) law?

    Ooooooh .... scaaaaaary ....

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    Last time I looked (none / 0) (#66)
    by jondee on Mon Jun 14, 2010 at 02:20:02 PM EST
    it was a "christian nation" that had 700 + military bases scattered across the globe.

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    This may be an oversimplification, but (none / 0) (#4)
    by lentinel on Fri Jun 11, 2010 at 05:51:52 PM EST
    I noticed that several Western European countries that have had troubles with terrorist attacks on their soil stopped having the attacks after they stopped meddling in Asian and African countries' affairs.

    Guess (none / 0) (#21)
    by NYShooter on Fri Jun 11, 2010 at 10:52:47 PM EST
    I'll go do the Google

    Let you know..

    Linking (cont.) (none / 0) (#39)
    by NYShooter on Sat Jun 12, 2010 at 06:23:29 PM EST
    If you right-click onto a picture (or any file on your computer) there's a "hyperlink" choice. Clicking on it gives you the same linking result that the URL link option that we were discussing above.

    The problem, however, is that if you then right-click onto the sent picture everything that's in the folder the picture was stored in also appears.

    My question then is: does that folder (and all the items in it) stay here on my computer, or does it also appear on anyone's computer after it's sent out?

    Tried googling but the geek-migraine inflicted on my  newbie status rendered any comprehension useless.

    Any ideas? Or should I go away and try some other sites?

    I'm just bothering y'all about this subject because, as we all get to know each better, pictures of our pets, vacations, children, etc. would be really fun, IMO anyway. (thinking of kdog's Puerto Rico vacation as inspiration, lol)

    You need to (5.00 / 2) (#42)
    by gyrfalcon on Sun Jun 13, 2010 at 08:51:43 AM EST
    find a Web home for pics, like Flickr, Photobucket, etc.  Then you can make links to those pics that go directly to that Web site.

    I don't honestly know if you can link successfully to a picture that resides on your computer, but you DO NOT WANT to do that anyway.  Last thing you want is to provide a path for total strangers to get right into your own computer.

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    Yeah (none / 0) (#63)
    by squeaky on Mon Jun 14, 2010 at 12:29:34 PM EST
    Except your nickname is dripping with bigotry and racism.

    I have no problem ... (none / 0) (#68)
    by Yman on Mon Jun 14, 2010 at 04:36:34 PM EST
    ... nicknames for Obama, but since you want to compare ... why don't you list the nicknames that were used to suggest Bush was a Muslim or furr-eh-nur?

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