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Is anyone getting an iPad? I'd love one and put it on my wish list.

I'm sure it's lunchtime somewhere, and since I'm busy at work today, here's an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    Am I getting an iPad? (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by ruffian on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 12:03:38 PM EST
    Is Chris Bowers veal?

    It should be here Saturday! I know I don't need one and I might feel guilty for a while, so I got the cheapest model. I couldn't stand the thought of reading about it in the next year and not having one. I envision using it around the house a lot, for ebooks and magazines, and all the stuff I use my phone for now, except this will be easier with the big screen and keypad.

    After watching a demo (none / 0) (#64)
    by spiceweazel on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 02:53:22 PM EST
    I'm just about sold. Previously I thought, "I have a Kindle, an iPhone and a netbook; why would I need an iPad?". I worried about having to use 2 ereaders to access 2 libraries, but I understand Amazon is developing a Kindle for iPad app which, if true, should take care of that problem. The iPad will allow me to combine the Kindle and netbook functions, reducing the amount of stuff to lug around.

    The main drawback for me is battery life; I love having the Kindle go for at least a week or more on a single charge.

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    Massachusets prosecutor indicts (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by scribe on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 12:10:41 PM EST
    a bunch of high school kids for bullying a girl until she came home and hanged herself.

    A bunch of kids - about 9, I guess - spent 3 months working on their classmate, apparently because they were displeased over how her dating relationship with one of the boys ended up.  The kid was in her first year in 'murca;  her family had come from Ireland.   And they went after her until she came home from school and hanged herself.  Now they've been indicted on a gazillion charges.

    The thing is, none of the administrators or educators are even in any trouble over this.  If you watch the prosecutor's video, you'll note that the school knew about the prblem.  Some saw it happening and did nothing.  The administrators knew about the problem.  The girl's parents had complained to them.  And they did nothing.

    So, now we  get a bunch of kids indicted for violating civil rights, statutory rape, assault, and disturbing a school assembly.

    Who knew that disturbing a school assembly was an indictable offense?

    And, in a related development, we get a new law in Mass.,  an anti-bullying bill which passes the Mass. assembly 148-0.

    I have not been able to find the text of the indictment.

    Indicted for disturbing a school assembly.... Even if these clowns are acquitted, for the rest of their knuckleheaded lives, they will have to answer "yes" to "have you ever been indicted?" on every job application and so on.  Greaat.

    ANother one of those where no one wins.

    So Much For Responsible Adults (5.00 / 0) (#16)
    by squeaky on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 12:48:20 PM EST
    Looks like they are going for the easiest link, the kids.

    Seems to me that there ought to be some liability for the school administration, considering that they knew what was going on, and failed to intervene.

    Parent

    Title IX covers bullying in some instances. (none / 0) (#27)
    by oculus on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 01:26:24 PM EST
    Recent settlement by school district.  link

    Parent
    And, the parents (none / 0) (#32)
    by Inspector Gadget on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 01:29:40 PM EST
    of the ones who are still juveniles. If a toddler rides his bike into the side of your car, the parents are responsible.

    I think I read most of the kids are 18 (3 only under juvenile court). That might pose a problem in trying to involve the school staff. It still isn't against the law to witness a crime and not do anything to stop it, right?

    The root cause will go unattended, I fear, if the law is allowed to take over the problem of bullying. I remember my years in school had the Golden Rule banners in every single classroom. An adult was quick to intervene if a student was being picked on or taunted.


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    Seems To Me (none / 0) (#43)
    by squeaky on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 01:48:48 PM EST
    That the school administrators should be liable for deliberate indifference.

    Parent
    Heaven knows their decision to ignore (5.00 / 1) (#66)
    by Inspector Gadget on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 03:39:39 PM EST
    the bad behavior deserves something serious. I don't honestly know how they can look themselves in the mirror....not just now, but every single time they chose to do nothing when they witnessed the bullying.


    Parent
    it does seem (none / 0) (#7)
    by CST on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 12:18:53 PM EST
    like they went way overboard on some of the charges.  That being said, other charges seem to be of the assault variety which are very different from disturbing the peace.

    This whole case is really disturbing.  Everything from the fact that the school did not do enough, to out of control kids, to just some typical juvenile behaviour, all of which ended in tragedy.

    On the one hand, teachers cannot be expected to be parents, social workers, and teachers all at the same time.  Not knowing the details of what happened, it does seem like more could have been done to prevent this at an administrative level, whether it is involving the parents or punishing the students within traditional school bounds (suspension, etc...)

    Agreed on the "no one wins" depiction.  It's pretty terrible all around.

    Parent

    Agree that teachers (none / 0) (#28)
    by brodie on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 01:27:29 PM EST
    are already overworked and underpaid and have too many students to watch out for, but aren't school administrators supposed to be acting in a legally meaningful in loco parentis role?  

    So I wonder why it is that more school officials aren't held accountable when they've been presented with prior evidence of serious bullying and yet have done nothing to prevent it.

    Administrators need to get as tough on bullying as they are on drugs, weapons, and school dress code compliance.  Well, as tough, but hopefully smarter, since they've gone way overboard in some of the other areas with the "zero tolerance" overreach approach.  

    Parent

    yes (none / 0) (#34)
    by CST on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 01:34:18 PM EST
    I agree it's clear the school administrators should have done more.

    As for being held accountable, I wonder if there are any legal grounds to hold the school admin accountable.  I certainly agree they need to be held responsible - just not sure using the justice department is the correct means to do this.

    It certainly seems like they picked the low-hanging fruit here (the kids), and there's something very troubling about that.

    Parent

    if this was an isolated (none / 0) (#36)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 01:40:02 PM EST
    incident I would agree. but it is not.  far from it.
    bulling is getting close to an epidemic.  
    they have to start someplace and these sound like pretty far from innocents to me.

    Parent
    All the more reason though (5.00 / 2) (#40)
    by ruffian on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 01:44:28 PM EST
    to get more serious about holding the adults responsible as well.

    Parent
    absolutely (none / 0) (#47)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 01:56:09 PM EST


    Parent
    Bullying seems to be getting more attention (none / 0) (#11)
    by Inspector Gadget on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 12:22:54 PM EST
    Even if these clowns are acquitted, for the rest of their knuckleheaded lives, they will have to answer "yes" to "have you ever been indicted?" on every job application and so on.  Greaat.

    lately. It needs to be addressed, but I don't think the criminal courts are the right place to start...and certainly not in juvenile courts. You didn't mention anything about the parents who raised the bullies.

    When did job applications start asking that question you quoted? Never seen one like that, myself. They ask if you were ever CONVICTED, but not if you were ever charged.


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    Not using the word 'indicted' (5.00 / 0) (#25)
    by Inspector Gadget on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 01:21:42 PM EST
    They use the word CONVICTED. If these kids are acquitted, they will not be asked to reveal their arrest to potential employers.

    Parent
    At least in CA, juvenile records (none / 0) (#26)
    by oculus on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 01:23:46 PM EST
    are sealed.  No need to disclose, even if a true finding.

    Parent
    a number of them (none / 0) (#30)
    by CST on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 01:28:25 PM EST
    are being charged as adults - certainly the one 18 year old, but also some 17 as well I believe - and possibly more.

    Parent
    There's the rub. (none / 0) (#33)
    by oculus on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 01:30:45 PM EST


    Parent
    Only 3 of the 9 are being (none / 0) (#35)
    by Inspector Gadget on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 01:35:25 PM EST
    dealt with via the juvenile courts according to the article I read.


    Parent
    so it would seem (none / 0) (#37)
    by CST on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 01:41:04 PM EST
    although only one of them is 18, the others are 16 and 17.  What does this mean though: "charged with... as a youthfull offender"?  I thought if they were being charged as juveniles they would not have their names released.  But this seems to be some sort of middle ground.  Not really sure what it means.

    3 are clearly being charged as adults, the one 18 year old and the two 17 year olds.  The three 16 year olds fall under the "youthfull offender" category.

    Parent

    It would appear that the prosecutor (none / 0) (#49)
    by scribe on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 01:59:35 PM EST
    went straight to adult court for the 17 and 18 y/os.

    It should be noted that, according to the newspapers, the two boys charged with statutory rape have an exposure to a sentence of life in prison.

    Parent

    When I said newspaper, (none / 0) (#50)
    by scribe on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 02:05:35 PM EST
    I should have said CNN.  Their story quotes an attorney in the DA's office on the prison exposures re the various charges:  life for the statutory rape, 10 years for the civil rights, etc.

    Parent
    And the prospective employer will run (none / 0) (#54)
    by scribe on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 02:12:32 PM EST
    a search on Accurint, too, and come up with the usual mixture of accurate and sorta-accurate info.  Merely seeing the presence of a criminal history will be enough o scare off most prospective employers.

    Parent
    Didn't Jeralyn just explain to us that the (none / 0) (#67)
    by Inspector Gadget on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 03:44:11 PM EST
    "criminal" word doesn't attach until after a conviction?

    Parent
    this whole thing (none / 0) (#51)
    by CST on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 02:06:10 PM EST
    reminds me a bit of a conversation I had with a parent out in Western Ma (in a town right next door to South Hadley) one day while I was on a site visit.

    She asked me advice on raising her kids in a world with drugs and bullies and peer pressure, etc...  When she asked me what it was like growing up in a city - I said in some ways you are exposed to more of this, but at the same time, there is so much other stuff going on that it's not as all-consuming.  I just feel like if this girl or any of the bullies had other things going on in their lives besides school yard drama, maybe things wouldn't have gotten so out of hand.  Maybe the perps would have gotten bored, maybe the girl would have found some hope outside of school to keep living anyway.

    I feel like there is so much fear of the big city and the dangers that come with it.  But you almost never hear stories like this, or Columbine, or other "mean-girl-esque" stuff coming out of city schools.  Of course, you could make the case that gangs are kind of like cliques, and that in that case the violence just starts after school.  But it does seem like the herd mentality is diminished somewhat in a more urban environment.

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    You might not think so, (none / 0) (#53)
    by scribe on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 02:10:48 PM EST
    but getting money out of a school for the school's tortfeasance is exceedingly difficult.  They have a lot of statutory and common-law immunities that make even the most seemingly dead-bang lawsuit a dicey affair.

    I worked on a case a few years back where the plaintiff - a kid - had lost an eye during a melee after a school basketball game.  The kid was wholly innocent of anything more than being in the wrong place at the wrong time.  And he got nothing for his eye - the facts of that case and the statutory immunities led to the result that there was no liability on the part of the school.

    Parent

    LAT opinion piece re benefits (5.00 / 2) (#15)
    by oculus on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 12:46:59 PM EST
    of HCR bill to seniors:  LAT

    Arrgh. (none / 0) (#24)
    by gyrfalcon on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 01:18:32 PM EST
    I realize this is an op-ed, but it reads like a press release from the White House-- all these lovely benefits laid out, with almost no specifics on the things that really matter.

    Like that long-term care insurance.  So how much would that cost me?  No idea.  How does that thing work about protecting a spouse's assets?  Etc.

    The increased funding for geriatric training is something I hadn't heard about before and I'm very glad to see.  Geriatric medicine can be very, very different from regular adult care, and PCPs, whether they realize it or not (and I suspect most of them don't), desperately need training in it.

    But how much funding is that, and how many people will it be able to give how much training?

    Parent

    Perhaps there is more info at (none / 0) (#29)
    by oculus on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 01:27:39 PM EST
    SCAN Foundation's website.

    Parent
    Won't be getting an iPad. Just upgraded (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by oculus on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 12:57:53 PM EST
    Blackberry to 3G network so I can continue to confound you all with my misspellings.

    Happy Birthday... (5.00 / 1) (#63)
    by desertswine on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 02:51:48 PM EST
    Vincent.

    getting one (none / 0) (#2)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 11:52:12 AM EST
    asap
    I didnt order one.

    Nope. No new gadgets. (none / 0) (#3)
    by scribe on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 11:53:26 AM EST
    The fact of the matter is, I have enough gadgets already and really don't need any more.  The best one I've bought in years is the HP Netbook I'm posting this on.  It was under $400, runs like a top, and has more power and speed than my prior desktop. And it's smaller and far lighter than most of the law books in my personal library.

    Check. (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by brodie on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 01:08:35 PM EST
    Already have the desktop and fancy printer, laptop, cell phone, dvd and color tv* with all the dozens of mostly unwatched channels that I overpay for, the stereo system with Dolby noise reduction, and probably one or two other things scattered around.  

    Maybe it's just me getting older and crankier, but I'm no longer as jazzed about the latest gee-whiz gadgetry from our high-tech wizards in Silicon Valley.  The thrill is gone.

    I also suspect I have some sort of built-in limit on h-t gadgets -- and adding one more will upset the delicate balance I've established and lead to system overload and meltdown.  Not enough of a techie, I suppose.

    (*) for moi, high-tech in teevee just means it doesn't have the rabbit ears, is color, and has cable.  When tv gets good enough to warrant spending an enormous amount on a really fancy one, then I might consider dropping a few thou for all the HD/3-D stuff.  Meanwhile, what difference if I watch Chris Matthews or Larry King in plain color or HD?  Would either be less awful with a 28% improvement in picture quality?
     

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    Larry King becomes more awful (none / 0) (#65)
    by Raskolnikov on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 03:20:27 PM EST
    in high definition.  The man appears to have been dead for at least ten years.

    Parent
    I saw him once give a motivational (none / 0) (#69)
    by Inspector Gadget on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 03:58:30 PM EST
    speech to a huge group in Seattle. He had the entire audience laughing uncontrollably. I see him completely different after that. The man has  a sense of humor you wouldn't believe.

    Parent
    Yes, Larry comes across better (none / 0) (#73)
    by KeysDan on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 05:09:16 PM EST
    as the interviewee than as the interviewer.  He was very funny and entertaining on the Bill Maher show a little while back.   I sat at the next table to him in a NYC restaurant and, yes, he is not a young man.

    Parent
    scribe (none / 0) (#17)
    by jondee on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 12:49:58 PM EST
    Fly-fisherman?

    Parent
    Oh, yeah. (none / 0) (#77)
    by scribe on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 08:21:29 PM EST
    And I have enough of those gadgets, too.  Though I probably could use a stream thermometer (can't find the old one), and I keep trolling the lists of bamboo rods on EBay and just got a quarterly sales list from a dealer I know.  Nothing of real interest, though.

    And I have three rods I've been rehabbing sitting around here, in process.  And another 6 or 7 that have been waiting for up to 14 or 15 years for me to finish rehabbing them, still waiting in the closet.

    And don't ask me about flytying material.  Literal bins of it.

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    I'm a photo nerd (none / 0) (#5)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 12:05:44 PM EST
    No room for an Ipad in my overstuffed camera backpack.

    "The Overton Window." According to (none / 0) (#8)
    by oculus on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 12:20:57 PM EST
    Digby, this is the title of Glenn Beck's not-yet-published novel.  

    Methinks he is (none / 0) (#12)
    by lilburro on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 12:27:49 PM EST
    a few months away from a weird sex story that will tank his career.  Well, I hope so anyway.

    Parent
    Any volunteers? (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by ruffian on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 01:47:17 PM EST
    take one for the team, so to speak?

    I would contribute to a collection for a sting operation.

    Parent

    HAHAH (none / 0) (#45)
    by lilburro on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 01:52:52 PM EST
    oh god.  I'll pass.  We must be able to find someone to sashay by the Fox News bunker in an Acorn costume holding a piece of chalk though...

    Parent
    I'd bet you'll be spending a lot of time (none / 0) (#55)
    by scribe on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 02:15:16 PM EST
    looking for the right bait for that sting.  The level of twist in Beck's mentality, evidenced by his rantings, tells me there's a very limited pool of keys to match that lock.

    Parent
    It would probably (none / 0) (#62)
    by jondee on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 02:39:59 PM EST
    need to be something like one of Joseph Smith wives in a bondage scenario..

    Parent
    For Glenn Beck fans (none / 0) (#23)
    by DFLer on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 01:15:56 PM EST
    from Northern Sun ("products for progressives since 1979")

    Here

    or here.

    Parent

    If he saw that shirt (5.00 / 1) (#52)
    by jondee on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 02:09:31 PM EST
    he'd probably go on for fifteen minutes about the symbolic implications of using the color red for the lettering.

    Parent
    Something seems a little cockeyed, to me, (none / 0) (#10)
    by KeysDan on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 12:22:52 PM EST
    in our Afghanistan policy- the integration of military campaigns to drive out the Taliban and the subsequent bequeathment of these military successes to an effective Afghan government so as to hold the gains and prevent the Taliban from, once again, returning to power. After eight years, many American and Afghan civilian lives lost, and billions of dollars spent, that second half of the policy is significantly lagging behind the first, to the point of being soon out of reach.  According to a front page news article in the NYT by Filkin and Landler as well as on its editorial page, it was noted that an attempt at a 'dutch uncle' to  the corrupt Karzai resulted in his blackmail tactic of inviting Ahmadinejad to Kabul, where he gave an anti-American tirade. Karzai, himself, is taking on an anti-American posture to improve his political standing, such as it is, including considering America an obstacle to making peace with--the Taliban and to continue to control the country.

    Doesn't look useful... (none / 0) (#13)
    by BigElephant on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 12:45:32 PM EST
    The iPad looks great as a device I use when I visit a friend.  But watching the recent Apple videos it looks really uncomfortable.  The whole time I'm thinking, "a laptop would be really great for what you're doing".  

    Plus there is the HP Slate and MS Courier that are supposed to come out this year.  I have no dying need for any of these devices, so I'm happy to wait, and compare them all side by side.

    Yes (none / 0) (#14)
    by squeaky on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 12:45:39 PM EST
    I am getting an iPad, soon.

    No ipad for me. . .yet (none / 0) (#19)
    by andgarden on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 01:07:33 PM EST
    If I can brave the crowds, I do want to try a hands-on experience, though.

    My theory is that I know I will cave eventually (5.00 / 1) (#44)
    by ruffian on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 01:49:02 PM EST
    so I may as well do it now and enjoy my toy for that much longer.

    Parent
    Long experience has taught me (none / 0) (#56)
    by andgarden on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 02:17:27 PM EST
    that unless there's a compelling need/use, it's wise to wait for version #2--at least.

    I still don't have a blu ray player, for example.

    Parent

    if you ever play games (none / 0) (#57)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 02:20:36 PM EST
    the PS3 includes a BluRay player

    Parent
    I really don't (5.00 / 1) (#60)
    by andgarden on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 02:36:42 PM EST
    Demographically, you'd think I'd be a big gamer. There are always exceptions. . .

    Parent
    great (none / 0) (#22)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 01:15:38 PM EST
    Lawyers for the father of a Marine who died in Iraq and whose funeral was picketed by anti-gay protesters say a court has ordered him to pay the protesters' appeal costs.

    On Friday, the Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit ordered that Albert Snyder of York, Pa., pay costs associated with Fred Phelps' appeal. Phelps is the leader of the Westboro Baptist Church, which conducted protests at the funeral of Snyder's son, Marine Lance Cpl. Matthew Snyder, in Westminster in 2006.

    Lawyers for Snyder say the Court of Appeals has ordered him to pay $16,510.80 to Phelps for costs relating to the appeal, despite the fact that the U.S. Supreme Court has agreed to review the Court of Appeals' decision.
    At least in CA state court, if Supreme Court (none / 0) (#31)
    by oculus on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 01:29:21 PM EST
    of CA accepts case, the Court of Appeal opinion no longer exists unless Supreme Court reinstates it.  Dad should be talking to his lawyer.

    Parent
    I think (none / 0) (#38)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 01:41:16 PM EST
    this is horrifying.  this family has suffered enough.  

    Parent
    Hoping SCOTUS agrees. (5.00 / 2) (#41)
    by oculus on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 01:46:52 PM EST


    Parent
    I just love weddings dont you? (none / 0) (#39)
    by Capt Howdy on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 01:43:27 PM EST
    they always come off especially nice in a cinder block bunker.

    Remind me not to use their wedding planner (5.00 / 1) (#48)
    by ruffian on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 01:58:01 PM EST


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    one reviewer said (none / 0) (#58)
    by Jen M on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 02:27:00 PM EST
    that the ipad without a monthly connection was a big itouch.  Since I wanted something smaller I promptly bought an itouch.  I like it. It fits in my pocket.

    The ipod touch is pretty excellent (none / 0) (#61)
    by andgarden on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 02:37:38 PM EST
    for those who don't have an iphone.

    Parent
    Schedule M (none / 0) (#68)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 03:45:20 PM EST
    Don't forget to fill out your IRS Schedule M.  For many of us non-lawyerly  (wealthy) folk, our Schedule M will pay for half an IPad, or half an L-glass macro lens!

    rain rain more rain (none / 0) (#70)
    by CST on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 04:02:21 PM EST
    a little too soon, as the rivers have not recovered from the storm earlier this month.  So more flooding, and it's one of the worst Marches on record for the entire northeast.

    Link.

    Not so fast, iApple! (none / 0) (#71)
    by DFLer on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 04:11:52 PM EST
    The iPad is only days away from being released and already it's part of a patent lawsuit.

    Elan Microelectronics, a Taiwanese chipmaker, filed a complaint with the International Trade Commission today, accusing Apple of using its patented multitouch technology in the iPhone, the iPod Touch and, of course, the iPad.

    According to a CNET report, the chipmaker has also asked the ITC To ban the import of the Apple devices into the U.S.

    link

    Greenwald in trouble (none / 0) (#72)
    by waldenpond on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 04:51:08 PM EST
    Looks like Balloon Juice hate for Hamsher might be spilling over to Glenn......

    Dougj has the drop on Jane.

    [I am not anxious to tar any liberal PACs, but]

    It's Jane so he's just gotta do it.

    Get out the popcorn (none / 0) (#75)
    by waldenpond on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 06:35:38 PM EST
    It's a good one.... much better than talkleft spats.  

    Dougj had to choke on his words.
    Glenn responds.
    The commentors continue to rant...(boy, some of them despise liberals)

    Parent

    Nothing entertaining about (none / 0) (#76)
    by Inspector Gadget on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 07:12:22 PM EST
    cyber bullying. Not on here, or on any other blog.

    Parent
    why do you care ? (none / 0) (#78)
    by Jeralyn on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 11:22:17 PM EST
    what they write there? I'm sure Jane and Glenn will be fine. There's no comparison between their influence and BJ.

    Parent
    Is this why Greenwald hasn't posted (none / 0) (#79)
    by oculus on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 11:33:04 PM EST
    on Sslon since Monday?

    Parent
    I just want ya'll to know that CNN (none / 0) (#74)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Mar 30, 2010 at 05:10:05 PM EST
    just told me that I'm in for another "dip" as the economy improves.....WTF?  Didn't someone wiser than me call this forked tongue a long time ago or something like that.  What a joke!

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