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    Will the arsehats who call... (5.00 / 1) (#57)
    by kdog on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 11:34:16 AM EST
    Assange a terrorist call this terrorism?

    This Visa* Card Issued by Citibank*.
    *= A Deputy of the Dept. of Homeland Security

    Watching 'Restrepo' (none / 0) (#1)
    by ruffian on Thu Dec 02, 2010 at 08:24:52 PM EST
    I can't see how whatever little good we are accomplishing in Afghanistan is worth the loss of life and limb of our soldiers and the affected civilians. It just seems like we are fighting people who would not even be fighting if we weren't there. Defending a government that will turn against us the minute the money dried up.

    Maybe I'm too short sighted for nation building.

    Well, I don't agree with BTD's support (none / 0) (#6)
    by observed on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 06:51:52 AM EST
    of the war, but I do agree that any success of the war is measured in terms of what happens in Pakistan. Even if the war is a "success", the Afghanis are royally screwed.

    I look at it this way: We've been in Afghanistan longer than Iraq, and with less success, even by the ridiculous standards of Iraq.
    There's nothing to be accomplished by staying.

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    So, Senate voting for cloture (none / 0) (#2)
    by magster on Thu Dec 02, 2010 at 10:04:00 PM EST
    on middle class tax cuts separately from cuts on the wealthy on Saturday.

    So the story on TPM is obsolete? As in, the Senate Dems are doing the right thing following the success of the house vote?

    It was the right (none / 0) (#3)
    by Makarov on Thu Dec 02, 2010 at 11:56:04 PM EST
    thing to do 3 months ago. Today, it's an exercise in futility.

    The President has already bartered away the tax cuts for the wealthy in exchange for unemployment benefits. Not that that's necessarily bad, but I'd hope for some programs that might also create jobs to help reduce unemployment rather than just minimize its impact.

    In any case, the time to make Republicans vote against middle class tax cuts was September, when their actions might have had consequences in the following election.

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    digby on tax cuts (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by MO Blue on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 09:18:52 AM EST
    I'm not defending them. But there has to be a good reason the Democrats failed to extend the tax rates for the middle class separately the minute they took office and it isn't because the date just crept up on them. Nobody's that dumb. If they had been serious about doing what Obama ran on they could have gotten it done as an economic imperative in the early heady months. And the Republicans would have had no choice but to vote for extending the middle class tax cuts a year and a half ago when the millionaire tax cut would have still been in place. The only reasonable explanation for not doing it is that the Dems never really wanted to decouple them in the first place. link


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    Well, yeah (none / 0) (#10)
    by magster on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 08:02:15 AM EST
    But I mean the rightest thing under the circumstances now, as opposed to a total cave.

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    Unemployment up to 9.8% (none / 0) (#14)
    by MO Blue on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 09:07:22 AM EST
    Basically nothing changed in this report. There are still over 15 million unemployed; long-term unemployed (basically everyone who is seeing their benefits cut off right now) stands at 6.3 million, 42% of the total unemployed. Some of these people have been out of work over 99 weeks and wouldn't get benefits even if Congress passes an extension. The labor force participation rate, the employment-population ratio, the average workweek and average hourly pay are all basically the same as last month. link


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    terrible news (none / 0) (#27)
    by waldenpond on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 09:54:25 AM EST
    They were expecting 141,000 jobs and got 39,000.  Unemployment from 9.6 to 9.8.

    They still won't do what they need to do because the goal is to complete the billionaires coup and collapse wages.

    They won't stop until there are long food lines.

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    I do believe that this is the goal. (5.00 / 1) (#43)
    by MO Blue on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 10:28:17 AM EST
    the goal is to complete the billionaires coup and collapse wages.

    The wage collapse is only for the peons. Multi million dollar salaries and bonus for p!ss poor decisions and performance for CEOs and Wall St. traders will continue to rise unimpeded.

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    Michael Vick (none / 0) (#4)
    by Makarov on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 12:06:46 AM EST
    threw for over 300 yards again tonight against the Houston Texans, also threw 2 TDs, and rushed for a third. His QB rating on the year is a league leading 106. The Eagles next face the Cowboys in Dallas on Sunday night in ten days.

    If Vick continues to play at a high level, and the Eagles win out the season, I believe he will be selected league MVP.

    By the end of week 14, NFC East teams will have appeared 17 times in prime time TV slots (Thur/Sun/Mon night games), 6 more than the next closest division. NFC West teams will have appeared just 5 times, perhaps still too many for some viewers. The NFC South division will have been represented just 4 times.

    I'm with you (none / 0) (#7)
    by republicratitarian on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 07:28:26 AM EST
    If he continues to play at his current level I would think he would have to be considered in the MVP talk. He looked great last night. I didn't even know that I had the NFL network until someone told me what channel it was on lol.

    They better start protecting him a little better though. He's fast but he can't keep taking all of those hits.

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    Vick is amazing on the field. (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by jeffinalabama on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 09:17:48 AM EST
    I do believe in redemption.  I still get angry with him, though. I got an email from someone else that does dog rescues, a forward, about one of the dogs adopted from his place. the dog is still terrorized-- a female, possible used for breeding? the psychological trauma of the animals may still be there.

    I rescued a pointer bitch from a puppy mill in, oh, 1990, I think it was. For the first year and a half I had her, she would sit on a sofa in an interior room curled in a ball, then go eat, then back to the sofa. I'd let her out to run, she'd run, then return to the sofa. Didn't socialize. If I wasn't there to take her out to relieve herself, I'd find it within three feet of the sofa.

    One morning, about four o'clock, I let her out to run...she had her own schedule. She somehow got loose and was hit by a car. Not bad, thank goodness! no broken bones, just a tear on the shoulder that needed stitches.

    I ran, picked her up-- she was a small pointer, only about 35 pounds-- carried her to the house, and held her until the vet office opened. Stitched up, home the same day, no real problems.

    But after that, I think after holding her when she would let me - forgot to mention that she shied away from human AND canine contact for the first year-- she opened up, became caring and responsive to me, and then later to my ex wife and my son.

    but  the trauma from the neglect and the treatment had left permanent scars.

    So I'm happy Vick is doing well. But when I'm reminded of the poor canines, I remember my experience with that particular rescue.  I forget that he's done good things, that he's reformed, and I think bad thoughts about him.

    I have a pit bull now, and he's the sweetest, smartest dog I've had in my memory. I was a pointer fan before gtting this guy, and he was supposed to be a Boston Terrier mix-- had the colors as a puppy, and the size of a boston terrier puppy also! But he continued to grow, and muscle up... until he became this 50 pound pit bull as sweet with children as any animal I've seen.

    He was traumatized also-- escaped under the fence as a puppy and off to the races! wouldn't listen, wouldn't come back... then WHAM! hit by a car and the terrible yelping-- I was certain he was dead or dying. No, just bruises! And a respect for automobiles.

    Again, I applaud Vick, I sometimes feel he has redeemed himself, but today my anger and disgust are back. They'll fade, though, I'm not that good at holding grudges any more.

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    Have you read "Lost Dogs"? (none / 0) (#56)
    by nycstray on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 11:23:35 AM EST
    Just finished it last week or so. Anyone that's applauding Vick should read it and also know that he never served time for animal abuse (state suspended the sentence, iirc).

    My dog was also seriously abused. And she still carriers the scars, even after 8.5 yrs with me :(

    All of Vick's "good deeds" were to get back to where he is today. He still hasn't convinced me he really feels it deep down inside (the pain he caused those dogs, not to mention the violent deaths). He did feel the pain of going to jail and almost losing his fame and fortune for good though . . . . that he seems to have gotten.

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    i'll check it out. (5.00 / 1) (#72)
    by jeffinalabama on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 02:44:20 PM EST
    I read a lot of stuff folks here recommend, although I don't watch everything recc'ed... reading is fun, but watching isn't doing. Even if I'm sitting around playing poker, at least it's doing something!

     My poor pooch is somewhat traumatized today. Accident with screeching tires and a big crash yesterday while I was at work. Ever since he was hit as a puppy, those sounds bother him tremendously. He's wanting to stay real close!

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    For sure... (none / 0) (#28)
    by kdog on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 09:54:55 AM EST
    In fact, if he plays at the string at this level it will be a miscarriage of justice if he were not to win MVP.

    I mean who else is in the conversation...Rivers?  Foster?  It's gotta be Vick.

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    Tommy Boy (none / 0) (#32)
    by CST on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 10:06:44 AM EST
    has been at the top of a lot of lists I've seen this year.  Like this one.

    "Brady has 13 TD passes without an INT in his past six games, five of them victories for New England. He's the NFL's second-rated passer. Brady and three others are tied for the league lead with 23 TD passes. The others have combined for 40 picks. Brady has thrown four."

    Love him or hate him, he's having a monster season, without a ton of top-name help.

    Granted, he's not as exciting as Vick.

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    I was gonna mention "Plugs"... (none / 0) (#33)
    by kdog on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 10:09:50 AM EST
    but I figured after he throws 4 picks Monday Night his stock will plummet:)

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    You know the Ravens are going to rag him (none / 0) (#36)
    by republicratitarian on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 10:13:56 AM EST
    about his hair. I love seeing him get sacked.


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    I just figured out Brady was a University (none / 0) (#39)
    by oculus on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 10:17:36 AM EST
    Michigan quarterback.  That should count for something, no?

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    No, :) sorry I'm hating on him and his team (none / 0) (#42)
    by republicratitarian on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 10:27:18 AM EST
    I'd be more than happy to be a balding millionaire MVP Super Bowl winner with a super model wife.

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    You got a type-o (none / 0) (#51)
    by kdog on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 10:47:40 AM EST
    r-crat..s/b "whipped by a super model wife".

    Come to think of it, the Pats ain't won sh*t since they hooked-up, have they?  The Gisele Curse is in full effect!  

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    what's (none / 0) (#53)
    by CST on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 10:53:36 AM EST
    the jets excuse?

    Curse of the moon landing? :)

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    Sick burn... (none / 0) (#54)
    by kdog on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 10:59:56 AM EST
    well played CST.

    A Namath deal with the devil is my best guess for our 40 years of failure.

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    Brady... (none / 0) (#52)
    by kdog on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 10:50:17 AM EST
    owes his whole storied career to Mo Lewis.  If Mo wasn't so awesome and didn't Wally Pip Drew Bledsoe, Tom Brady mighta been a career back-up.

    Mo Lewis better be on his Christmas Card List:)

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    That and some help from the "tuck rule" (none / 0) (#60)
    by republicratitarian on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 12:09:41 PM EST
    the pats (none / 0) (#62)
    by CST on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 12:30:47 PM EST
    have certainly seen their share of controversy over the years, some of which is deserved.

    But all I'm gonna say it, post "tuck rule" they went on to win 3 superbowls.  Post "spy-gate" they went 18-1 and made it to the superbowl.  Controversy or no controversy, you can't really deny their greatness over the past decade.  And Brady will go down in history as one of the best qbs ever, even if he quits playing football tommorow.

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    I agree totally, I still hate em, >:) (none / 0) (#65)
    by republicratitarian on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 12:48:54 PM EST
    fair enough (none / 0) (#67)
    by CST on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 12:54:53 PM EST
    I still hate the yankees, lakers, and colts :)

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    Ditto the Lakers and Yankees (none / 0) (#69)
    by republicratitarian on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 01:03:07 PM EST
    Don't forget... (none / 0) (#68)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 12:56:26 PM EST
    ...his new contract to shill for Uggs.  

    Brady said he was excited to be joining the UGG family. "I have worn and loved the UGG brand for a long time," Brady said.

    Uh huh.  You and every other teenage girl, Tommie.

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    Are those the gay arse boots? (none / 0) (#70)
    by republicratitarian on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 01:03:36 PM EST
    Yes... (none / 0) (#71)
    by kdog on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 01:30:27 PM EST
    the cuddly furry ones...how could I forget he is pimping out Uggs! That's way funnier than the plugs.

    Thank you MileHi...the line just moved another point in favor of Gang Green.

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    Well... (none / 0) (#80)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Mon Dec 06, 2010 at 10:55:42 PM EST
    ...that was u-g-l-y, my friend.  At least my Bronco's finally admitted the Patriots West experiment was a bust and got rid of Josh McDoofus today.  

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    Dick Durbin says "yes" to Catfood Comm. (none / 0) (#5)
    by caseyOR on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 01:31:50 AM EST
    plan. Yes, that's right, Sen Dick Durbin (D-IL), the number two member of the Democratic leadership, and, allegedly a liberal, has announced his support for the gawd awful recommendations put forth by Alan Simpson and Erskine Bowles. Let them eat catfood is right.

    Any bets on how long it takes the incoming Congress to pass those recommendations? It certainly doesn't look like the Democratic leadership will put up a fight.

    When will Americans take to the streets? Ever?

    Democratic leadership put up a fight? (5.00 / 3) (#15)
    by MO Blue on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 09:12:27 AM EST
    Democratic leadership supports raising the retirement age and reducing payouts of benefits so thata continuing Social Security surplus  goes to the general funds to support their tax cuts to wealthy individuals and corporation.

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    Because (5.00 / 2) (#24)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 09:43:38 AM EST
    Because...

    "Tax cuts to wealthy individuals and corporations"

    ...means tax cuts to themselves.  

    People talk about Democrats supporting "the wealthy" as if the wealthy are somehow in a status above them.  The wealthy ARE them.  Just wanted to make that one thing perfectly clear ;-).

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    Oh that is more than clear to me (none / 0) (#49)
    by MO Blue on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 10:43:47 AM EST
    The administration and Congress will benefit from the legislation that they have been passed and will continue to pass.

    Campaign contributions, lucrative future money making and employment opportunities when they leave government and lower tax rates on their accumulated wealth.

    The reverse Robin Hood effect is strongly in place and we have the best (if you are rich) government money can buy.

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    I'm thinking about a run in two years for congress (none / 0) (#19)
    by jeffinalabama on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 09:22:35 AM EST
    I probably won't because my past is checkered at best, and I'm in an extremely religiously conservative part of Alabama.

    I'd run on the New Deal and run against the post 2008 democrats if I ran.

    This district has been democratic since the new deal until Parker Griffith, the turncoat, switched sides. The Tea Party republican candidate didn't win, although a republican was sent to Washington.

    Sigh... I think race did matter in this district.

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    I would vote for Sanders in a second (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by smott on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 09:46:09 AM EST
    You can write in Sanders for (none / 0) (#37)
    by MO Blue on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 10:14:55 AM EST
    president in 2012 and recommend that others who share your viewpoint do the same thing. That is what I am currently planning to do.  

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    I'm thinking ... (none / 0) (#73)
    by sj on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 04:40:39 PM EST
    ... that you need to get that T-shirt out sooner rather than later.  :)

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    I'd send you money (none / 0) (#20)
    by jbindc on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 09:27:48 AM EST
    If i decide to, instead of heading to (none / 0) (#21)
    by jeffinalabama on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 09:31:55 AM EST
    Puente polonia, I'll make a big announcement here... I'd be the candidate destined to lose, but at least I could bring up real issues.

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    You and Ben. (none / 0) (#31)
    by oculus on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 09:58:37 AM EST
    Dude... (none / 0) (#45)
    by kdog on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 10:29:37 AM EST
    I'd be honored to help put that project on wheels too!  But are you sure this is a business you wanna get into Jeff?  You're way too nice a guy man.

    I've got a buddy contemplating a city council run down in West Palm Beach...talk about checkered pasts. First friend I made in Tallahassee, all tatted up, non-practicing Jew, unmarried....pretty sure he quit smoking but man did we blaze & booze it up back in the day.

    I think voters don't really give a sh*t about that kinda silly stuff that is supposed to kill a campaign anymore. Some of us even consider these things a positive...shows you're a normal human being and not some Stepford freak:)

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    I'll keep it in mind, kdog. (none / 0) (#74)
    by jeffinalabama on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 04:45:51 PM EST
    I'm sincerely thinking about it, just wondering if I'd get enough attention to be able to talk about governance, privacy, ending the cash cow drug war and selling and taxing drugs just like spirits, investing in infrastructure, basic research, science, including social science education, continuation of manned space flight with 21st century tools, unemployment at reasonable rates, a cap on credit card interest, medicare for all, mass transit and international exchange, among other things.

    Slowing down issues of privacy and control, instead of farming these out to private contractors for big bucks...

    Oh well, a guy can think about it for a year. I'll email the outgoing state dem chairman or call him-- we grew up a couple of blocks from each other. Same Cub Scout den, too, lol.

    Maybe it's time for more folks to step up and take un the structure... we live in interesting times. It's almost like the old Mickey Mouse Club Tuesday-- "anything can happen day."

    Also, it would be nice to have a broke guy in congress who lived on getting small donations.

    This site gets them, why not a "Meet John Doe" type!

    Get the issues out there, and expect to lose. What's the downside? Winning?

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    I got your slogan for you, (5.00 / 1) (#75)
    by NYShooter on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 05:42:58 PM EST
    courtesy of Sarah Palin:

    "Class Warfare? .....You Betcha!"

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    heh! you know me too well! (none / 0) (#76)
    by jeffinalabama on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 05:44:43 PM EST
    n/t

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    Winning is one, yes... (none / 0) (#77)
    by kdog on Sat Dec 04, 2010 at 07:15:55 AM EST
    IRS audit, FBI surveillance are other potential pitfalls if you scared the wrong (right?) bastards with some success with that platform, which I'm digging btw.  

    It would be something though...and as insurmountable as the odds may be, there is still a path to do it...there are holes in the fences the oligarchs have built around the power and money.  

    Just promise you'll consider teaming with Ron Paul on ability to audit and monitor the Federal Reserve legislation.  And the crime against humanity that is our sinful prison population...issues get no bigger. Repealing the UIGEA, I'm sure you're down.  Countless other crap federal law.  

    Jesus where do you start? lol  

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    A platform to un-pass legislation... (none / 0) (#78)
    by jeffinalabama on Mon Dec 06, 2010 at 10:24:53 AM EST
    to get rid of the junk that's there that takes away from the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

    End the authoritarianism.

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    I like it... (none / 0) (#79)
    by kdog on Mon Dec 06, 2010 at 11:07:50 AM EST
    a rep focused almost exclusively on repealing the reems of crap would be a godsend.

    Got and replied to your email with a few thoughts, btw.

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    Dick Durbin's statement (none / 0) (#29)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 09:54:58 AM EST
    Durbin:

    "Borrowing 40 cents out of every dollar we spend for missiles or food stamps is unsustainable,"

    Hmmm, so how much are we borrowing for food stamps versus how much we're borrowing for missiles.  LOL, it's sadly funny.

    I only hope this all burns through the notion that the Democrats are the party of FDR anymore. Anyone who thinks they're "about the little guy" is truly self-deluded. They're just the greaterliars.

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    Well, we are working on the food stamp: (none / 0) (#50)
    by KeysDan on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 10:45:12 AM EST
    problem:  A child nutrition bill was passed (awaits the president's signature) that expands the school lunch program and sets new standards to improve the quality of the meals, with more fruits and vegetables (Reagan's good idea of counting catsup as a vegetable is not included).

    This is all to the good, but it is to be financed, by about half, by a cut in food stamps.  But relax, Mr. Obama said that he will work with Democrats to find ways to pay for the bill before the cuts in food stamps kick in.

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    Yes, but I doubt if the (none / 0) (#34)
    by KeysDan on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 10:10:45 AM EST
    incoming Congress will pass those recommendations.  More likely, with or without the 14 votes said to be needed for consideration (if they get them it will be " a great, great success", if a majority, a "great success"), just some of the recommendations will be considered and passed.

    Of course, the cherry picking will focus on health care (Medicare, Medicaid) so as to reduce costs by reducing care, social security benefit reduction and means testing to make it politically vulnerable; and middle class cuts such as elimination of deductions for interest on mortgages (although that will be a tough one since it affects more than the middle class). The cuts in the Pentagon, while relatively modest,  will be dead on arrival. The Cat Food Commission recommendations as a package will go nowhere, in my opinion.

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    The goal IMO was never to pass the (5.00 / 1) (#41)
    by MO Blue on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 10:22:52 AM EST
    Cat Food Commission recommendations as a package. It was as you suggested to set up the mechanism to pass select elements of the package. IOW health care (Medicare, Medicaid) so as to reduce costs by reducing care, social security raising retirement age, benefit reduction and means testing to make it politically vulnerable; and probably eliminating the Earned Interest Credit and possibly eliminating tax deductions for employer health care or individual deductions for medical expenses. Other elements of the package like additional reduction in taxes for corporation and the wealthy also have IMO a very good chance of going through.  

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    Just so (none / 0) (#55)
    by sj on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 11:11:33 AM EST
    Which is why the assessment that the report was dead on the water was a tad short-sighted.  IMO

    Then, as they cut away the social safety net they can shout "But look what we saved you from!"

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    Google tells me no amendments (none / 0) (#40)
    by oculus on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 10:20:02 AM EST
    permitted and must be yeah or nay vote on entire package.

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    Unless, I am mistaken (5.00 / 1) (#46)
    by MO Blue on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 10:32:22 AM EST
    I think that he is referring to legislation that will be passed piece meal in the next year or two and not on a vote during the lame duck session this year.

    This package was just ground work for future action that will IMO happen.  

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    Yes, thanks Blue. (5.00 / 2) (#48)
    by KeysDan on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 10:36:06 AM EST
    True, but the goal posts change, (none / 0) (#47)
    by KeysDan on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 10:35:23 AM EST
    such as a majority vote is actually pretty good.  Moreover, the Cat Food Commission apparently did not bother to formulate its report into legislative language, just recommendations and narrative.

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    Looking to the future (none / 0) (#61)
    by MO Blue on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 12:10:56 PM EST
    The courageous Cat Food Commission adjourns without taking an official vote. Non official vote was 11 - 7 in favor. But when Obama and the Dems are determined to implement something they evidently will not let something as insufficient as not being able to meet the 14 vote requirement. This from Reid after commission adjourned.

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has agreed to work with the commission's chairmen, Erskine Bowles and Alan Simpson, to hold a floor vote on the package next Congress. But incoming Speaker John Boehner has thus far refused to make the same commitment. TPM


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    hey (none / 0) (#8)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 07:37:50 AM EST
    I have a great idea


    A presidential commission's $3.8 trillion debt-cutting plan

    Putting the $3.9 trillion extension of the Bush tax cuts in context

    lets go back to Clinton era tax rates, remember when 23 million jobs were created, and we dont have to do squat.


    hangin (none / 0) (#9)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 07:52:05 AM EST
    Your pets? (none / 0) (#16)
    by republicratitarian on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 09:14:35 AM EST
    thats (none / 0) (#22)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 09:38:00 AM EST
    the kids

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    Beautiful kids, Capt. (none / 0) (#23)
    by jeffinalabama on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 09:39:50 AM EST
    Looks like a friendly environment.

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    It's good (none / 0) (#25)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 09:44:37 AM EST
    that they let you have a spot...

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    when (none / 0) (#44)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 10:28:33 AM EST
    I was fostering a third dog it got a little tight sometimes

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    Yikes! (none / 0) (#11)
    by jbindc on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 08:06:00 AM EST
    yes! (none / 0) (#12)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 08:17:57 AM EST
    There's a great deal of small TV news to round up, so let's get to it. First off comes the news that Dexter has been given a sixth season renewal. The last time the show was up for renewal was in 2008, when Showtime committed to a fourth and fifth season. E!  suggested that a one-season order now is due to cast contract renegotiations that will take place before a seventh season. I never would have expected the show to run quite this long, but the numbers are improving, with this Sunday's episode grabbing the show's best ratings ever. So: onward to season six!


    Cleveland fans (none / 0) (#13)
    by CoralGables on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 08:48:38 AM EST
    showed up to party with plans to stomp LeBron. Instead it becomes a wake as LeBron drops 38 while playing only 3 quarters, and gives the Cavalier fans one more reason to hate him. He played just like the LeBron they once loved, but this time at their expense.

    p*ssed about (none / 0) (#30)
    by CST on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 09:58:37 AM EST
    the world cup.  I guess I'll have to start saving for Brazil 2014 if I ever want to go.  Since that's a lot closer/cheaper than Russia/Qatar.

    Polling on tax cuts:

    Cnn: "As top Democrats and Republicans continue negotiations over extending the Bush-era tax cuts, a new national poll indicates that a slight majority of Americans are opposed to the wealthiest Americans receiving those cuts."

    emphasis mine

    Actual numbers: 53% of people think cuts should be extended for those who make <$250,000 a year.  26% say they should be extended for everyone.  14% say they should all expire.

    So 67% of people do not want cuts for the wealthy.  "Slight" majority indeed.

    If only 67% equalled 67 votes in the Senate (none / 0) (#38)
    by republicratitarian on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 10:15:07 AM EST
    Ru-Roh... (none / 0) (#58)
    by kdog on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 11:44:58 AM EST
    a good chunk of the TL commenting community has a good shot of being on a "domestic extremist" TSA watchlist for criticizing the peek and grope.

    Lemme get this straight...we object to a soft-core pron image of us and/or a groping, and we're the extremists?  Ok there Uncle Sam, whatever you say buddy.

    Darn... (none / 0) (#59)
    by kdog on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 11:45:20 AM EST
    Scott Brown (none / 0) (#63)
    by CST on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 12:40:19 PM EST
    knows who butters his bread.  And is apparently not that stupid.

    He is officially on board for the repeal of DADT.

    One republican down, only one more to go.

    oops (none / 0) (#64)
    by CST on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 12:41:08 PM EST
    NYPD Queens Narcotics... (none / 0) (#66)
    by kdog on Fri Dec 03, 2010 at 12:52:24 PM EST
    is on a drug war roll the last few years...frame-ups, rapes, pimping teenagers out...you name it.

    IF NYC is looking for a place for spending cuts, this is the place to start...and crime might actually go down in the process, not to mention what they'd save on settlements for all this dirty.