Saturday Morning Open Thread

By Big Tent Democrat, Section Blog Related
Posted on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 09:01:33 AM EST
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Today being Saturday, a few words about the resignation of Florida football coach Urban Meyer - he had a Leahyesque 5 year run unmatched in recent college football history (2 national championships, 3 BCS bowl game wins, 85% winning percentage in the toughest college football conference.) He was a great, great football coach. That said, he clearly was not at his best last year. It seems that Meyer can only work at full throttle. That leads to burnout. It was time for him to step down.

So who replaces him? I think Florida AD Jeremy Foley will settle on Dan Mullen, the former Gator offensive coordinator and current Mississippi State coach. I think if he could fulfill his own wish list, Oklahoma coach Bobby Stoops would be the next Gator coach. That's who I would want as well. Behind Stoops, I think Jon Gruden would do a tremendous job (but he is hanging out for the right NFL spot). I am also intrigued by Jim Harbaugh. I also think it would be intriguing to see what Kirk Ferentz could do at Florida. He's a great coach. Finally, while I think Boise's Chris Peterson is a great coach, I'm not sure he fits Southern college football. If he finds that Boise is not a big enough stage for him, I suspect he would go to the Pac 10, not the SEC.

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Oh, BTD (5.00 / 3) (#1)
by Ga6thDem on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 09:02:30 AM EST

how we missed you this week! Your wit and cynicism was greatly missed!

I dunno (none / 0) (#6)
by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 09:29:54 AM EST

There seemed to be little to say.

Just depressing.


: Depressing (none / 0) (#11)
by Ga6thDem on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 10:04:24 AM EST

is almost an understatement.

Good to know what (5.00 / 1) (#3)
by oculus on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 09:25:31 AM EST

BTD's post-trial priorities are. Not Wikileaks, taxes, etc.!

I bleed Gator Orange and Blue (none / 0) (#5)
by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 09:29:14 AM EST

: And black and white houndstooth (none / 0) (#16)
by Militarytracy on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 12:05:20 PM EST

is no longer a clothing option now for my family I guess. I think that's total crap too. I'm like heartbroken about it, but if you wear it you are a traitor.

Funny viral video (5.00 / 1) (#10)
by jeffinalabama on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 09:48:28 AM EST

it's a commercial, but still funny.doghouse commercial is in the last 5 seconds or so.

Sigh. I remember marriage and the doghouse...

colbert king (5.00 / 0) (#13)
by The Addams Family on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 11:36:17 AM EST

i haven't paid much attention to him

how long has he been an idjut?

He is, but (none / 0) (#26)
by jbindc on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 01:03:23 PM EST

He may be on to something.


interesting (5.00 / 0) (#29)
by The Addams Family on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 01:51:26 PM EST

but not sure what your link has to do w/the subject of King's column

in that column King does 2 things that make him an idjut, imo

he reels off the standard apologist list of Awebama's [non]accomplishments
he essentially says Dems are stuck w/Obama in 2012 because Obama is black - which even if King thinks is true, & even if it is true, is one awesomely stupid thing to come right out & say

idjut


He also says (none / 0) (#31)
by jbindc on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 02:05:08 PM EST

That if the Dems drop Obama, AA's will leave the party high and dry in 2012.


yes (5.00 / 0) (#33)
by The Addams Family on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 02:11:13 PM EST

that is point 2 in my previous comment

your link reports on self-described AA conservatives leaving the Democratic Party apparently for reasons of policy

my link to King's column shows King saying exactly what you just quoted (talk about hostages!) - that any primary challenge to Obama will cause the AA vote to bolt, & King makes no mention whatsoever of policy (except to smack "the left") but only of the fact that Obama is the first AA president - which is to say that we are stuck w/Obama because he is black - a stupid argument for King to make on behalf of his love object

so again i don't see the connection between that & your link - maybe you can enlighten me


Just an example (none / 0) (#34)
by jbindc on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 02:19:42 PM EST

Of how active members of the Democratic Party - i.e. both past presidents of the state College Democrats and one an elected official - and both African American - decided to leave the Democratic Party.

These were not just some random people who voted occassionally and were polled.

And since King's point was that AA's will leave the party if Obama is primaried, my point, which should be obvious, is that some have decided to already leave. I realize 2 is a minute number, but to "threaten" that AA's will leave the party looks stupid, since they could be trickling out already - much like many whites are too.


: thanks (5.00 / 0) (#35)
by The Addams Family on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 02:42:02 PM EST

sometimes i too think my points are obvious when in fact they are anything but
anyway you are saying that Colbert King's "not a threat but a promise" is itself stoopid since AA's are already trickling out of the party (in the case of these two, because they are conservatives, not because of the prospect of a primary threat to Obama)
& i am saying that King's stated reason for his "not a threat but a promise" is a piece of stoopidity with its own zip code
so yeah, King is stoopid on 2 counts - but i think the stoopid i cited burns more

And if they don't drop him...? (none / 0) (#40)
by Anne on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 06:27:23 PM EST

There will be more added to the long line of people who have already left the party because they feel the party left them.

It's hard to picture Obama/Biden as inspiring many to register to vote, to change parties or to join the kind of GOTV effort Obama put together in 2008.


Gus Malzahn has been mentioned also (none / 0) (#2)
by jeffinalabama on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 09:07:47 AM EST

BTD, but I don't envision a jump from offensive coordinator to the top job at Florida... Florida and Mullen are the 'peas and carrots' solution.

I don't think too many MSU fans will be rabidly angered if Mullen returns to the site of his successes, either.

I've also heard Petrino, who probably hasn't finished unpacking at Arkansas yet. But Petrino is a merc head coach... always looking for the better deal.

Mullen over Malzahn (none / 0) (#4)
by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 09:28:41 AM EST

But leaving Starkville for Gainesville? (none / 0) (#7)
by jeffinalabama on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 09:38:09 AM EST

Before the new Cracker Barrel opens? I dunno...


: Heh (none / 0) (#9)
by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 09:45:31 AM EST

Madoff's son (none / 0) (#8)
by jbindc on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 09:39:46 AM EST

commits suicide

So whats your take on this (none / 0) (#12)
by SOS on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 11:07:51 AM EST

bottom feeding Las Vegas legal outfit Righthaven LLC thats suing Drudge Report now?

Why exactly are they bottom feeders... (none / 0) (#17)
by MileHi Hawkeye on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 12:08:40 PM EST

...and not the big media outfits that hire them to sue anyone and everyone they can as part of an ongoing harassment campaign?

Denver Post management has taken aim over the past year at the internet, apparently sweeping the web routinely for Denver Post content and threatening litigation if it finds unlicensed material floating free of the Denver Post brand. It sent a letter to popular blogsite ColoradoPols this past summer sounding Orwellian warnings against quoting even the smallest amount of material from the paper. The Post has now sued the national conservative politics Drudge Report for running a Denver Post photo. The Las Vegas company suing on behalf of the Post is asking for $150,000 and for Matt Drudge to surrender his popular website domain names drudgereport.com and drudgereportarchives.com.

Thanks for the info! (none / 0) (#19)
by EL seattle on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 12:17:05 PM EST

(Which was posted even as I was asking about exactly that sort of info. Doh!)


: No problem. (none / 0) (#22)
by MileHi Hawkeye on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 12:29:26 PM EST

As you might imagine, there's plenty more over at ColoradoPols.
Clearly the Post is fighting for their very survival, but the way they are going about it seems to be a classic case of cutting off their nose to spite their face. We're not allowed to even mention the Post at CoPols, which means less page views for them, which means lower ad rates which leads to lower revenue...

Here's a link for anyone who interested... (none / 0) (#18)
by EL seattle on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 12:13:08 PM EST

From: Paid Content (12/10/2010) -

Copyright enforcement company Righthaven is going after its biggest target yet--widely read news aggregator The Drudge Report. Righthaven is suing over a photograph The Drudge Report posted that originally was published in the Denver Post. That newspaper is owned by the MediaNews Group, which Righthaven started working with earlier this month.

- - - -

I think that it's very possible that over the next year, a lot of "free-for-the-taking" internet assumptions are going to be noticably squeeezed out as the taming of the wild west web continues.

Does anyone know if there's been any local media coverage of the CO connection to to this Drudge incident?


Here's a website (none / 0) (#27)
by SOS on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 01:26:32 PM EST

"that lists the victims of Righthaven LLC's "shake down" lawsuits that are causing irreparable harm to the blogging, non-profit and small business communities."

Democratic Underground -- represented by the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), Fenwick & West LLP, and attorney Chad Bowers -- was sued by Righthaven on August 10 for a five-sentence excerpt of a Las Vegas Review-Journal news story that a user posted on the forum, with a link back to the Review-Journal website.

Righthaven Victims


: Thanks for the page link! (none / 0) (#32)
by EL seattle on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 02:05:17 PM EST

They seem to be doing a steady job of documenting the marauding juggernaut. Their info page on How to Avoid a Lawsuit has a lot of useful information that I (for one) hadn't seen collected in one place before.

I see where... (none / 0) (#14)
by desertswine on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 11:57:07 AM EST

Bernie Madoff's son is dead. Apparent suicide.

Poor guy (none / 0) (#20)
by Militarytracy on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 12:18:50 PM EST

You don't get to pick your parents. It's just terrible.


: It's a lousy death, (none / 0) (#25)
by desertswine on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 01:02:50 PM EST

that's for sure.

Oops... (none / 0) (#21)
by desertswine on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 12:22:56 PM EST

missed comment #8 above.


I think it would be intriguing... (none / 0) (#15)
by MileHi Hawkeye on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 12:03:11 PM EST

...to see what Coach Kirk could do with a couple of capable coordinators who don't run the same predicable, vanilla offensive and defensive system week after week.

7 and 5 may be fine for Florida, but we expect better. And starting next year, losing to Nebraska is going to be absolutely unacceptable.

Oy. (none / 0) (#23)
by MileHi Hawkeye on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 12:37:14 PM EST

Saw a tease for 60 Minutes last night--footage of the Orange Man bawling his eyes out like a two year old who's told they need to take a nap.

Is he really that emotionally fragile?

He's a delicate flower (none / 0) (#24)
by jbindc on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 12:56:29 PM EST

Hmmm. undiagnosed Addisons? (none / 0) (#28)
by jeffinalabama on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 01:46:11 PM EST

but I'm not a doctor or a lawyer.


: Too much tanning (none / 0) (#30)
by jbindc on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 02:04:31 PM EST

weakened his tear ducts?
(Yes, that was snark).

odd day. Up 86 bucks (none / 0) (#36)
by jeffinalabama on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 05:13:05 PM EST

playing limit Omaha h/l. at low limits. I might need to remember this...

Potential suicide attack (none / 0) (#37)
by jbindc on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 05:43:21 PM EST

in Sweden:

STOCKHOLM -- A car explosion and what appeared to be a suicide attack injured two people, killed the apparent bomber, and caused panic among Christmas shoppers in Stockholm Saturday.
The Swedish news agency TT said it had received an email warning with a threat to Sweden and its people ahead of the blasts. The agency said the threat was linked to Sweden's presence in Afghanistan, where it has a force of 500 soldiers, mainly in the north.
"Now your children, daughters and sisters shall die like our brothers and sisters and children are dying," the news agency quoted the e-mail as saying.

New hockey attendance record (none / 0) (#38)
by jbindc on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 05:45:23 PM EST

Set at the Big House in Ann Arbor - 113,411 fans watched Michigan beat Michigan State 5-0 in hockey.

Sounds like Florida... (none / 0) (#39)
by MileHi Hawkeye on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 06:05:26 PM EST

...made a hard run at Stoops if the rumors on the series of tubes are to be believed. Sadly for you, he seems to be staying put.

I think Harbaugh will join his brother in the pros before he goes to Fla. Lots of folks here are pushing for him to coach the Broncos...

Personally, I like to see Rob Ryan--at least we'd be entertained.

I think it's official (none / 0) (#41)
by CoralGables on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 08:24:42 PM EST

Texas defensive coordinator Will Muschamp has been hired as the new head football coach at the University of Florida


: And possibly (none / 0) (#42)
by CoralGables on Sat Dec 11, 2010 at 09:02:20 PM EST

more Texas raiding with Major Applewhite coming in as the new offensive coordinator.
Looks like the Gators are going to be awfully young in the coaching ranks.