Thursday Night Open Thread: TV and Taxes

My DVRs are set tonight for the new Bruce Springsteen movie on HBO, The Promise: The Making of Darkness on the Edge of Town (footage from 1976 to 1978), Project Runway, the Apprentice and Grey's Anatomy.

I've been working all day trying to get my tax stuff ready for the accountant by tomorrow -- the October 15 deadline is right around the corner.

Since I'm not done yet, here's an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    another attempt (5.00 / 2) (#24)
    by CST on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 10:36:59 AM EST
    at photography.  I call this series:

    City Living - a love story

    south station
    windy day
    carson beach

    I think carson beach is the best representation of what makes Boston so great, the mixture of urban, and for lack of a better term, not-urban, all in one shot.

    All of these were taken within city limits, from my phone.

    thanks guys! (5.00 / 1) (#44)
    by CST on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 12:49:00 PM EST
    Anne - I have a droid incredible, it's the first camera I've had in years, and it's great, because I just have it on me wherever I go.

    With the exception of Fenway, these were all taken in South Boston/Dorchester.  Not exactly where the tourists or bridge & tunnel crowd go.  Unless they're visiting the jfk library.  On a side note, if you're visiting boston, the jfk library is a pretty nice spot that's kind of off the beaten path.


    oops (none / 0) (#25)
    by CST on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 10:37:41 AM EST
    harbor and jfk are two different pictures

    Cool. (none / 0) (#28)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 11:16:36 AM EST
    My Mom and Sister have been in your town for the past couple of days.  My Sister "dragged" my poor Mom "all over" yesterday.  

    They weren't too impressed with the weather though--and that's coming from a couple of Seattlites!


    hahaha (none / 0) (#30)
    by CST on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 11:26:12 AM EST
    ahhh the weather.  The past couple days have been pretty gross.  Although sometimes I like the wind and rain.  Today is gorgeous though, and I think it's supposed to be nice all weekend.

    If they think this is bad - don't come in winter!  Seattle doesn't have anything on a Boston winter.  The wind chill can be absolutely brutal.  And there's nothing quite like a noreaster for staying indoors.


    I liked the carson beach photo (none / 0) (#29)
    by MO Blue on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 11:17:34 AM EST
    I also like the night photos copley and canal jflk was an interesting display using various angles.

    Nice work


    Nice pics, CST! (none / 0) (#31)
    by Anne on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 11:37:29 AM EST
    A couple more pics and you could make calendars and give them as Christmas gifts - my one question: what kind of phone do you have?

    Excellent (none / 0) (#33)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 11:45:32 AM EST
    I'm torn between Fenway and Carson Beach being my favorite.

    Excellent! (none / 0) (#35)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 11:51:00 AM EST
    Very nice (none / 0) (#37)
    by ruffian on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 11:58:19 AM EST
    They do capture the lesser advertised aspects of city living. I always like looking at a city skyline from a park or a beach, as in your carson  beach pic. I didn't realize Boston had such places right in the city. I have an old roommate living in Charlestown now, and she just loves it. I visited once and it seemed like a great city. I still remember the delicious clams at a place we went on the harbor, and the pizza on the north side.

    Windy Day (none / 0) (#41)
    by squeaky on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 12:25:27 PM EST
    Is my favorite, by far....  

    Nice pics!


    A Federal judge in Michigan (none / 0) (#1)
    by andgarden on Thu Oct 07, 2010 at 08:44:28 PM EST
    rules on the merits of the Constitutionality of healthcare reform, upholding it.

    On the individual mandate:

    The plaintiffs have not opted out of the health care services market because, as living, breathing beings, who do not oppose medical services on religious grounds, they cannot opt out of this market. As inseparable and integral members of the health care services market, plaintiffs have made a choice regarding the method of payment for the services they expect to receive. [I.e., by imposing massive bills on everyone else when they appear uninsured in the emergency room.]

    . . .

    The minimum coverage provision, which addresses economic decisions regarding health care services that everyone eventually, and inevitably, will need, is a reasonable means of effectuating Congress's goal.

    The judge also dismisses the "direct tax" argument. But I find that one so absurd that I won't even waste space quoting the judge on why.

    Hmm (none / 0) (#13)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 07:39:36 AM EST
    [I.e., by imposing massive bills on everyone else when they appear uninsured in the emergency room.]

    I tried to find this in the ruling, and it wasn't there, so it appears it was your editorial statement?

    I don't know who wrote the statement, but it shows a lack of understanding of the Insurance Mandate Act and Tax, and a general lack of understanding of poverty.  

    The Insurance Mandate Act and Tax in no way ends the emergency room problem, and may even compound it.  People who can't afford insurance will have to pay the tax penalty which lessens their ability to afford medical care or ER expenses and more will be hefted on the rest.  Alternatively, those in extreme hardship will have the tax waived and still end up in the ER.

    Somehow those who magically think that this tax and mandate is going to help the health care situation in this country are thinking in a very narrow manner.  Some exploration and research are in order.

    It used to be that "progressives" felt sorry for the down-trodden.  Now they like to demonize them when it suits them.  Good luck with that.


    It is my editorial comment (none / 0) (#14)
    by andgarden on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 08:05:49 AM EST
    but it comports with the actual text of the ruling. As for your objection: if that happens, then the intent of the bill will have failed. In principle, subsidies are supposed to be available to make insurance affordable. In practice, that's TBD.

    Dan "Secret Agent Man" Maes... (none / 0) (#2)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Thu Oct 07, 2010 at 08:55:57 PM EST
    ...gets the coveted Palin endorsement in his run for CO Governor--no not that one but rather noted political king-maker Jim Palin, FIL to $arah.

    I won't be able to make up my mind on who to vote for until Piper weighs in...

    lol!~ (none / 0) (#3)
    by nycstray on Thu Oct 07, 2010 at 09:06:40 PM EST
    news report here yesterday (?) that $arah's endorsement here ain't all that positive. then they went on to say she endorsed Carly :)

    I read today... (none / 0) (#4)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Thu Oct 07, 2010 at 09:19:59 PM EST
    ...that's she's doing some fund raiser in Cali and Carly and Meg aren't going to attend.  They have "prior commitments".  I'm sure they can look forward to an angry e-mail from the Todd.

    ah, maybe that's what sparked the news (none / 0) (#5)
    by nycstray on Thu Oct 07, 2010 at 09:31:45 PM EST
    Meg seems to have disappeared from my farmer's market. she's had a booth there all spring/summer and for the past couple weeks, no booth. not that i'm complainin' . . . .

    Here is... (none / 0) (#6)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Thu Oct 07, 2010 at 09:42:52 PM EST
    ...the link.

    Sounds like Palin's unfavorables among independents would make being seen with her a kiss of death in CA...


    San Francisco is 1-0 v. Atlanta (none / 0) (#7)
    by oculus on Thu Oct 07, 2010 at 10:27:41 PM EST
    at bottom of 6th inning.  NOW I am rooting for the Giants.  

    BTW, anyone fluent in Manipuri?  I just bought a ticket on line for Henrik Ibsen's last play,"When We Dead Awaken."  

    Director's note:

    Inspired by the central idea of Ibsen's last play When we Dead Awaken, this piece of work concentrates only on the thematic content; it does not subscribe to the idea of either a realistic plot or normal structure.  The performance is designed to express the internal entanglement of characters without distorting the original idea, using selected dialogues without any change from the original text.

    In doing this play, I just wanted to know a different Ibsen with imagery, fantasy and ectasy -far away from the realistic conventional mould where the performance becomes more subtle, symbolic, suggestive and stylized.  It was not easy for me to prepare a performance text for this.  But I have enjoyed immensely playing the hide-and-seek game with the genius during the making of this performance and in the process of interpreting it.

    Ratan Thiyam

    Earlier today--couldn't locate MLB (none / 0) (#8)
    by oculus on Thu Oct 07, 2010 at 11:00:34 PM EST
    game on car am, so ended up listening to 760 am and, I think, Michael Savage.  What a hate-filled person.  Chamber of Commerce, mercury in light bulbs, "Mr." Obama, and on and on.  

    Oh god (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by andgarden on Thu Oct 07, 2010 at 11:10:45 PM EST
    Why would you subject yourself to that? He makes Fox News seem like the BBC.

    I don't usually, although I did listen (none / 0) (#10)
    by oculus on Thu Oct 07, 2010 at 11:22:40 PM EST
    to Rush a bit during the pres. primaries.  Same effect.  I really can't wrap my mind around people actually listening to and accepting this screed.

    Well, to me it explains a lot about how our (none / 0) (#15)
    by Angel on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 08:41:31 AM EST
    society now works.  Their customers listen to these screeds, accept whatever lies are told at face value, and the uglyness of it sort of seeps into them by osmosis and they then repeat a screed with all its hate and vile, transfering it to others, and it then becomes a big, ever expanding circle of hate.  My theory, anyway.  

    I agree with that theory (none / 0) (#18)
    by ruffian on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 10:07:07 AM EST
    These people prey on the susceptible. And once it has taken root in someone is nearly impossible to dislodge.

    Yeah, he is a certifiable loon (none / 0) (#19)
    by ruffian on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 10:07:53 AM EST
    Is it possible that the vibe on... (none / 0) (#11)
    by EL seattle on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 01:20:26 AM EST
    ...this fall's 'Apprentice' could be any less like the vibe on the last 'Celebrity Apprentice' series?  To me, the episodes so far have played like some civic theatre's bowdlerized version of 'Glengarry Glen Ross'.  Yeeeesh.

    Fortunately, '30 Rock' had a very good episode tonight.  Which made me think that maybe Alec Baldwin and David Mamet could show up as surprise judges for 'The Apprentice'.  It wouldn't hurt.  

    Another case of "government (none / 0) (#16)
    by MO Blue on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 09:14:14 AM EST
    subsidies for me, but not for thee."

    Alaska Senate candidate Joe Miller says his family benefited from Medicaid and a state-run health care program for low-income children and pregnant women.

    Miller previously acknowledged receiving federal farm subsidies for land he owned in Kansas in the 1990s, as well as low-income hunting and fishing licenses for him and his wife in Alaska.
    I support the repeal of ObamaCare. First and foremost, there is no Constitutional authority for it.
    This legislation adds millions of new beneficiaries to the already broken Medicaid program and relies in part on finding hundreds of billions in savings from the broken and going bankrupt Medicare program

    Shiver me timbers! (none / 0) (#17)
    by MO Blue on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 09:39:30 AM EST
    Pirates at UK school.

    LONDON (AP) -- Shiver me timbers! Actor Johnny Depp shocked a London school by answering a pupil's fan letter and visiting classes dressed as his character from the "Pirates of the Caribbean" movie series, teachers said Friday.
    Dressed as his character Captain Jack Sparrow, Depp performed pirate songs and dances for the pupils during the visit with four other cast members on Wednesday.

    Love it! Imagine how excited those kids were (none / 0) (#20)
    by ruffian on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 10:08:56 AM EST
    Something to talk about for the rest (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by MO Blue on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 10:21:07 AM EST
    of their lives for sure.

    Depp is one of my favorites in the "sexy man" category and this just adds a big plus to his likability as well.  


    He's gotta be one cool dude... (none / 0) (#21)
    by kdog on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 10:19:17 AM EST
    judging by the friends he makes...the late great Hunter S. Thompson & The Human Riff Keith Richards to name two.

    Hey ruff...did ya catch the Darkness doc last night?  I missed it..if you did, any thoughts?


    Sorry, I missed it! Didn't know they were airing (none / 0) (#23)
    by ruffian on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 10:35:03 AM EST
    it until I saw J's post and then it was too late. I will look for it on the 'On demand' feature this weekend though and see if I can watch it. I was looking forward to it too. I think it must be the doc that comes with the re-release of Darkness next month, so one way or another I'll see it.

    I have a real bone to pick with my tiVo - it does not know me at all if it did not think to record this for me.


    The Tivo (none / 0) (#26)
    by kdog on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 10:40:50 AM EST
    AI feautures are due out next year:)

    I'm gonna try and watch over the weekend too...we'll compare notes later:)


    Busted! (none / 0) (#27)
    by kdog on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 10:49:35 AM EST
    FBI edition...some kid in Cali found a tracking device on his car, posted photos of it online, and FBI has the nerve to show up at his door to ask for their toy back...no shame!

    I liked his original idea better...sell that sh*t on Craigslist, especially since the FBI doesn't even have the decency to officially acknowledge the existence of the tracking device.  

    Hmmm (none / 0) (#32)
    by jbindc on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 11:43:31 AM EST
    Illegally selling government property?  Doesn't seem like a good way to go, IMO.

    What if it's just thrown away? (none / 0) (#38)
    by EL seattle on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 12:01:01 PM EST
    Is there a law against that, I wonder?  I sort of doubt if those trackers have a label saying "If found, please return to the FBI".  But maybe they do...

    Maybe (none / 0) (#46)
    by jbindc on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 01:59:18 PM EST
    But selling it for profit when it isn't your property is stealing (or, conversion, if you will).

    Seems like a dumb move when, as kdog points out, they could make your life hell.


    is it still government property (none / 0) (#50)
    by CST on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 02:41:25 PM EST
    if they leave it in your car?

    answer (none / 0) (#51)
    by CST on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 03:16:52 PM EST
    yes, probably, sort of.

    Although it's not entirely clear.

    "Personal property is considered to be lost if the owner has involuntarily parted with it and is ignorant of its location. Mislaid property is that which an owner intentionally places somewhere with the idea that he will eventually be able to find it again but subsequently forgets where it has been placed. Abandoned property is that to which the owner has intentionally relinquished all rights."

    This doesn't fit 100% within any of those definitions.

    "Lost or mislaid property continues to be owned by the person who lost or mislaid it. When one finds lost goods, the finder is entitled to possession against everyone with the exception of the true owner."

    Since the FBI asked for it back, I guess this means they get it back.  That being said, I doubt the person who found it would be prosecuted for stealing if the FBI doesn't ask for it back.

    Fuzzy law.  Also, since they didn't really "lose" the property, they just left it there, it could be considered abandoned.  In which case, it belongs to the finder, I believe.



    Government property? (none / 0) (#43)
    by kdog on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 12:45:46 PM EST
    Seems to me once they stuck the blasted thing on the kid's property, they surrendered ownership.

    But I can't blame the kid for coughing it up...it's the FBI and their power to destroy lives, you can't win.


    My Facebook is getting all messy (none / 0) (#34)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 11:50:25 AM EST
    Like a messy house or something.  I have my fave bloggers on there who Facebook and then I have my crazy Conservative friends and man are they all getting riled up lately posting all sorts of video and tooting their horns about another Conservative Black Man speaking truth to power and running against Rangel.  I blow onto to Facebook and think to myself....what a mess around here :)

    Ha! I defriend basically anyone who (none / 0) (#36)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 11:53:48 AM EST
    ever puts up more than one or two political posts on FB. If I really like the person I'll let them know I don't want to see anything political, but if they do it again, they're gone. I get all the politics I can stomach right here on TL.

    I agree! (none / 0) (#39)
    by ruffian on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 12:02:51 PM EST
    I'm like George Costanza- there's political Ruffian and Facebook real name Ruffian and I don't need the worlds colliding! FB is too open for employers and such. My closeo friends and family  know my political views- o don't hide them in person.

    As Aaron Sorkin told Stephen Colbert, FB is in many ways a performance. The person I play on FB is not my whole self.


    I don't mind knowing how they really feel (none / 0) (#40)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 12:22:05 PM EST
    But wow is it ever a mess out there, like crazy mess.  I might actually go into depth with one or two of them but that would just be ugly.

    It's messy too because you can get into (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by ruffian on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 12:36:13 PM EST
    it with friends of friends you really don't even know. One of my friends' dad is a ditto-head and occasionally spews some junk on his much more liberal son's page. I just could not let one allegation go unchallenged - don't even remember what it was not, but it was complete and utter BS. Now I just ignore most of it aside from the occasional 'like' vote.

    Facebook postings by my high school (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by oculus on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 01:17:30 PM EST
    classmates are confirming my worst suspicions. Can't believe I attended the last reunion and emerged unscathed.

    I found my old roommate... (none / 0) (#47)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 02:05:14 PM EST
    ...from Freshman year on FB.  He was from Ft. Madison and was as big of a party hound/liberal as they came back in the day.  Now he's a Super Wingnut.  Ended up turning his posts off.  

    Maybe it is something in that Mississippi River water?


    Maybe that's it. One fellow posted (5.00 / 1) (#48)
    by oculus on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 02:18:10 PM EST
    "should Congress get a raise this year" link?  I thought, hell no, they shouldn't.  But that was the tip of the proverbial iceberg.  Now Facebook users can enroll their "friends" in various groups w/o permission of the friends.  I just foreclosed on that feature.

    Since their current theme is (none / 0) (#49)
    by MO Blue on Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 02:25:02 PM EST
    that everyone (meaning us) needs to make sacrifices,  maybe a cut in pay this year would be in order. If they were paid what they were worth, we would be getting a big refund on their wages IMO.