Wednesday Open Thread

With a $50,000.00 contribution from Larry Zimmer, CEO of Men's Wearhouse, proponents of Prop 19 have been able to air the above ad, featuring former San Jose Police Chief Joseph McNamara , who explains why he, and other law enforcement officers in California, will be voting Yes on Prop 19.

George Soros has donated $1 million for a final GOTV effort and ad campaign. More at the Atlantic.

Firedoglake says the latest poll numbers show a drop in support for Prop 19. They really need to get young voters to turn out and vote.

This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    this is Disney on drugs (none / 0) (#1)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Oct 27, 2010 at 11:20:52 AM EST

    . . . an even better rumor: supposedly Disney is thinking of cutting Keith Richards from Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides because gasp! he used drugs.

    You know... (none / 0) (#5)
    by kdog on Wed Oct 27, 2010 at 11:54:14 AM EST
    I feel for Disney, the human riff hid his drug use so well, how could they have known prior to the release of Keith's new biography?  He's a sneaky bastard that Richards:)

    Looks like a winner judging from the excerpts printed in Rolling Stone Magazine btw...loved the story of setting the Playboy mansion bathroom on fire partying with Bobby Keys...classic!


    not to mention (none / 0) (#7)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Oct 27, 2010 at 01:03:06 PM EST
    snorting his fathers ashes

    Any Mention of Tax Rates ? (none / 0) (#2)
    by ScottW714 on Wed Oct 27, 2010 at 11:29:10 AM EST
    Will it be like alcohol, taxed per amount, or taxed like normal goods, determined by cost ?

    I never thought I would see this in my lifetime.  Even if it fails, this will happen in my lifetime, which is crazy considering all the talk of this country moving right.

    When old Mick Flatfoots... (none / 0) (#3)
    by kdog on Wed Oct 27, 2010 at 11:31:26 AM EST
    come out for Prop 19, you know the war on drugs is a loser:)

    Speaking of WOD, Mexico's pres is telling Americans to lay off the dope to quell the violence down south...and in the same breath defends prohibition and rags on Prop 19...add Calderon to the list of clueless world leaders if you have not already done so...its the prohibition stupid!

    it's not like they'd ever tell the super-rich... (none / 0) (#9)
    by Dadler on Wed Oct 27, 2010 at 01:11:34 PM EST
    ...to lay off the money for awhile so some of the have-nots can get a little.

    Family fued (none / 0) (#4)
    by waldenpond on Wed Oct 27, 2010 at 11:38:54 AM EST
    My parents and spouse voted against.  I couldn't get my 18 year old to register to vote... now I'll have to make sure I make a field trip to get my daughter and son-in-law to vote to cancel out the no votes.

    good ad. (none / 0) (#6)
    by cpinva on Wed Oct 27, 2010 at 01:00:09 PM EST
    hope it helps.

    They really need to get young voters to turn out and vote.

    my question: what are the demos that they polled? i didn't see the cross tabs, did i just miss them?

    A new chapter is up at the memoir blog (none / 0) (#8)
    by Dadler on Wed Oct 27, 2010 at 01:10:06 PM EST
    Via ql at eschaton (none / 0) (#10)
    by lilburro on Wed Oct 27, 2010 at 03:34:13 PM EST
    (link here) Echidne writes about the Glee photoshoot in GQ and youth sexuality.  It's good.

    wow (none / 0) (#11)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Oct 27, 2010 at 04:39:21 PM EST
    MEXICO CITY -- The entire police force of a small northern Mexican town quit after gunmen attacked their recently inaugurated headquarters, according to local reports on Wednesday.

    really need to see the picture

    access (none / 0) (#12)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Oct 27, 2010 at 04:44:19 PM EST
    As the clock ticks down to the midterms and the White House tries to rally the base, President Obama this afternoon is meeting with five popular progressive bloggers.
    They are pictured, from left to right: Joe Sudbay of AMERICABlog, Barbara Morrill (aka BarbinMD) from DailyKos, John Amato from Crooks & Liars, Oliver Willis from OliverWillis.com, and Duncan Black aka "Atrios" from eschatonblog.
    According to Sudbay -- who also writes for AMERICAblog Gay and is thus the first member of the gay media to meet with President Obama since he took office -- the meeting is scheduled to last 45 minutes, and will be followed by 15 minutes with White House senior adviser David Axelrod.

    Yeah, meeting with these folks is really going to (none / 0) (#13)
    by Angel on Wed Oct 27, 2010 at 05:02:20 PM EST
    help us avoid the coming 50-car pileup.  

    They pay her to speak? (none / 0) (#14)
    by nycstray on Wed Oct 27, 2010 at 05:06:45 PM EST
    "Marco Rubio started and kinda taking on the establishment and mavericky, going rogue, you know, doing it," exclaimed Palin. "And I look at him and I think, you know, we kinda started a whole bunch of this stuff. So, very very proud and encouraged by Marco."

    Winkin' wizard (5.00 / 0) (#15)
    by waldenpond on Wed Oct 27, 2010 at 05:46:49 PM EST
    of word salad.

    actually, i've begun (none / 0) (#19)
    by cpinva on Thu Oct 28, 2010 at 06:00:21 AM EST
    to think she may be a "progressive" troll, working undercover to discredit the tea party, by constantly blurting out inanities in public. either that, or she really is just not very bright.

    of course, if you consider her normal audiences, not being very bright turns out to be an advantage: they can easily relate to her.


    can you imagine her (none / 0) (#23)
    by nycstray on Thu Oct 28, 2010 at 10:44:31 AM EST
    addressing the UN? the poor translators!

    Interesting political ad on radio (none / 0) (#16)
    by caseyOR on Wed Oct 27, 2010 at 06:41:44 PM EST
    I was just in the car, running errands, and I heard a new political radio ad. This is the first time I've come across an ad like this.

    Two voices, one male and one female, speaking with the inflections and syntax that suggest they are African American. They are attacking the Tea Party and supporting Obama. The script is chock full of racist buzzwords. They talk about claims that the First Lady is uppity; references to the President as a boy; things in that vein.

    They close with remarks about how the Tea Party wants to take their country back, and they then state that the TPers can't have it back and they, the speakers, have Obama's back and so should everyone else.

    Not a word about the issues. Nothing on jobs, health care, the wars. Just exhorting people, they do seem to be targeting AAs, to protect this President.

    Paid for by one of those blandly named, D.C. headquartered organizations that no one ever heard of before.

    I do wonder why it is airing in Oregon, a state with a miniscule AA community.

    Most of the African-American community (none / 0) (#17)
    by Harry Saxon on Wed Oct 27, 2010 at 09:29:18 PM EST
    in Oregon is concentrated in Portland, so the next question would be:

    Was this commercial heard in that fair city on the station you were listening to?


    Yes, it was on a station that (none / 0) (#18)
    by caseyOR on Wed Oct 27, 2010 at 10:37:04 PM EST
    is heard throughout a large swath of the Willamette Valley as well as SW Washington. And, yes, Oregon's AA population is concentrated in the Portland area, but it is still a very small community.

    None of the members of our Congressional delegation seems to be in danger of losing reelection. My only thought is that it was aimed more at SW Washington. Patty Murray is in a tight race with Dino Rossi, trying to hang on to her Senate seat. Both Obamas have been to Washington to campaign for Patty.

    The ad did not mention the name of any current candidate, just talked about the President.


    They must have thought the money (none / 0) (#21)
    by Harry Saxon on Thu Oct 28, 2010 at 08:16:57 AM EST
    well-spent, so I suggest to you that it's designed to appeal to Democrats and liberals as well as for African-Americans.

    If the radio station was AM, you might be surprised at what distance the signal was still intelligible when compared to FM.


    and after nov. 2nd, (none / 0) (#20)
    by cpinva on Thu Oct 28, 2010 at 06:01:56 AM EST
    Paid for by one of those blandly named, D.C. headquartered organizations that no one ever heard of before.

    will not be heard from again.


    Arab Writers Strike at Daily Kos (none / 0) (#22)
    by fairleft on Thu Oct 28, 2010 at 10:14:31 AM EST

    Vote in the poll (you don't have to be a daily kos member).