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Percy Harvin was named the NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year.

Mediation continues over the Pacquiao-Mayweather megafight.

The Iowa Hawkeyes capped off a tremendous season by beating Georgia Tech in the Orange Bowl 24-14. Kirk Ferentz may be the best coach in America (along with Coach Pete of Boise). The Big Ten had its best bowl season in memory.

Gilbert Arenas is facing suspension after bringing guns into the Washington Wizards locker room and pulling one on a teammate.

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    Let this be a lesson... (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:22:36 AM EST
    ...sub-zero temps are not to be triffled with.

    The 27-year-old had dashed out to his car in subzero temperatures to get a pack of cigarettes about 4:30 a.m. He returned to find the door to his house at 1729 10th St. locked. He said he curled up on the porch and waited for his roommate to return.

    "I thought he'd be there any time," Dowie said.

    When police found him five hours later, Dowie's body temperature had dropped to 86 degrees, 12 degrees below normal. He was freezing to death.

    Link

    It doesn't take long for the cold to effect your judgement--as evidenced by this man not finding a way into his house.


    Recent family anecdote: frozen (5.00 / 1) (#61)
    by oculus on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 12:33:55 PM EST
    Midwest.  H come home from work calls W from garage.  Can't get out of car.  Locks must be frozen.  W tries but can't get door open from outside. Says, are you sure it's unlocked.  Answer:  locked.  

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    Happens quite a bit... (5.00 / 2) (#67)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 12:45:42 PM EST
    ...one imagines.  Might have even done that a time or two myself!

    I've had my locks freeze on me so many times I carry a special tool that I can heat up and stick in the lock to unfreeze them.  

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    At least he had smokes! (none / 0) (#38)
    by kdog on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:42:52 AM EST
    I hope he had spark...he must have or he definitely woulda broke into the house:)

    Seriously though I think its safe to assume drinking was involved.

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    Between the teeth chattering... (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:48:59 AM EST
    ...and the involutary shaking of the hands (and whole body), I doubt he could have lit a smoke, much less actually smoked it.  

    Hopefully, he'll get to keep his toes/feet.

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    The guy had to be seriously loaded... (none / 0) (#49)
    by kdog on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:56:22 AM EST
    for the survival instinct not to kick-in.

    I just hope we don't end up with drinking while below freezing laws because of this:)

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    No chance... (none / 0) (#52)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 12:01:54 PM EST
    ...that's pretty much all there is to do during an Iowa Winter!

    Trust me on that...

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    Been frigid in NY... (none / 0) (#56)
    by kdog on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 12:10:40 PM EST
    I wouldn't put it past our leaders to propose such a nanny-state thing.

    Nearly froze our arses off at last weeks football games...we only had one cold one each afterwards and bolted!  Ref told a funny story about the coldest game he ever ref'd in this night league...the guy who ran the league was the other ref and insisted football is played in any weather, wouldn't call it...well he called it at halftime when he got frostbite on the tip of nose.

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    And why in H--- wouldn't he just (5.00 / 1) (#97)
    by oldpro on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 02:44:09 PM EST
    get in the car (and turn on the heater?)

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    I guessing... (none / 0) (#108)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 03:17:01 PM EST
    ...the car was unlocked (it is Des Moines afterall) and he left the car keys inside with his house keys.  

    Then, I also heard he became so disoriented, so quickly that he didn't have the capacity to think that clearly.  

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    At least get into the car! (none / 0) (#119)
    by Fabian on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 04:53:17 PM EST
    Maybe we need to make kids walk a couple miles to school again.  You learn very quickly about the physics of heat loss.

    (Of course I learned my lessons doing exciting stuff like going out to cut wood in the winter.  I learned quickly what worked and what didn't.)

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    Chris Dodd's (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by andgarden on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:28:53 AM EST
    statement:

    Mr. Dodd, 65, a pivotal figure in the major debates now confronting Congress, said he had made the decision two weeks ago, on Christmas Eve, as he stood in Arlington National Cemetery, where Senator Edward M. Kennedy was buried last summer. Mr. Dodd said he went there after the Senate had passed the bill to overhaul health care.

    "In the long sweep of American history," he said outside his home in East Haddam, Conn., "there are moments for each elected official to step aside and let others step up. This is my moment to step aside."

    He said he was proud of his record in the Senate. "But none of us is irreplaceable," he said. "None of us is indispensable, and those who think otherwise are dangerous."

    This is a much better way to go than being defeated by the WWF millionaire.

    And as for the seat? (none / 0) (#23)
    by andgarden on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:32:25 AM EST
    Safe D (PDF).

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    Full statement, via email (none / 0) (#41)
    by andgarden on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:43:47 AM EST
    Dear xxxxx,

    Today I announced that after 35 years of representing the people of Connecticut in the United States Congress, I will not be a candidate for re-election this November.

    I want to express my deepest gratitude to the people of Connecticut for the remarkable privilege of being elected eight times over the past four decades to our national assembly.

    You have honored me beyond words with your confidence.

    Let me quickly add that there have been times when my positions and actions have caused some of you to question that confidence. I regret that, but it is equally important that you know I never wavered in my determination to do the best job for our state and nation. I love my job as your Senator, I always have, and still do. However, this past year has raised some challenges that insisted I take stock of my life.

    Over the past 12 months, I have managed four major pieces of legislation through Congress; served as Chair and acting Chair of two major Senate Committees, placing me at the center of the two most importance issues of our time -- health care and reform of financial services; lost a beloved sister in July and in August -- Ted Kennedy; battled cancer over the summer; and in the midst of all this, found myself in the toughest political shape of my career.

    Now let me be clear, I am very aware of my present political standing here at home; but it is equally clear that any certain prediction about an election victory or defeat nearly a year from now, would be absurd.

    Strange as it may sound, I'm not confident I would be standing here today making this announcement if these situations had not occurred. None of these events or circumstances either individually or collectively is the cause of my decision not to seek re-election.

    Yet together these challenges have given me pause, and to take stock, and ask the question that too few of us in elected public life ever do -- why am I running?

    On a cold morning two weeks ago tomorrow I asked myself that very question.

    On the early frigid dawn of December 24th, Christmas Eve, with snow piled high along the streets of our nation's Capitol, I cast one of the most important, if not the most important votes of my years in the Senate -- a bill to fundamentally reform the health care system of our country.

    An hour later I was standing on the Virginia hillside at Arlington Cemetery, where Ted Kennedy rests, along with his brothers in eternity, as he is in history, wishing I could have seen the look in Teddy's eyes as the Senate took that historic step only an hour before. I thought about the dozens of fine public servants, Democrats and Republicans, who have joined me in serving Connecticut over the course of my career at the local, state and national level.

    I thought about the countless Connecticut families -- ordinary people with extraordinary courage and spirit, whose lives have touched me, and whose stories have profoundly affected my decisions in the Senate.

    I thought about the dozens of patriotic Senators with whom I have had the privilege of serving in an institution I dearly love. I have been a Connecticut Senator for 30 years. I'm proud of the job I've done and the results delivered.

    But none of us are irreplaceable.

    None of us are indispensible.

    Those who think otherwise are dangerous.

    The work to make our nation a more perfect union began long before I was elected to the Senate, and it will go on long after I'm gone. Our country is a work in progress. And I am confident it always will be.

    That is what I thought about as I stood on that hillside in Arlington on Christmas Eve morning.

    That is what I've talked about with Jackie over this holiday season.

    And that is how I came to the conclusion that, in the long sweep of American history, there are moments for each elected public servant to step aside and let someone else step up.

    This is my moment to step aside.

    There will be time to reflect in more detail on the years I've spent in public service.

    There will be time to celebrate victories, mourn setbacks, share laughs and memories, and to thank profusely the talented, tireless, and numerous staffers, many of whom are here today, who have made my Senate work possible.

    But that time is not now.

    My service is not over.

    I still have one year left on my contract with the people of Connecticut.

    One year from this week, our state will have a new Senator. In the meantime, we have important work to do.

    A few closing thoughts.

    I believe in bipartisan solutions, but I also believe you only achieve those results with vibrant, robust, and civil partisan debate.

    I am a Democrat and very proud of my party's contributions to the vitality and strength of America.

    I would never have had the opportunity to serve in the Congress had I not had the support and backing of my political party over the years.

    I appreciate the passionate party activists who have never faltered in their support of my efforts.

    And lastly I want to say thank you to my family for their tolerance of yet another generation of our family in the political arena. I am especially indebted to Jackie for her fierce loyalty, unyielding commitment to fairness, and her unlimited capacity of empathy for the needs of others.

    She has been my anchor to windward in these stormy political waters.

    Now there is nothing more pathetic than a politician who announces they are only leaving public life to spend more time with their family.

    The result of this announcement today will, I hope, create that opportunity -- but it is not the reason for my decision.

    I am a very late arrival to fatherhood, and I am told repeatedly how rapidly these young children -- Grace who is 8 and Christina who is 4 -- will grow up.

    So while these young ladies are not the reason for my decision -- they will be an incredible benefit of my choice. On this, the 6th of January, the Epiphany, 2010, I am still driven by the same passions that motivated me to try my hand at politics so many years ago.

    Just as I've encouraged the people of Connecticut, I am looking to the future with a spirit of optimism and confidence.

    Finally, once again, thank you for the opportunity you've given me to serve.

    Thank you,

    Chris



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    My favorite line: (5.00 / 1) (#98)
    by oldpro on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 02:53:51 PM EST
    "So while these young ladies are not the reason for my decision -- they will be an incredible benefit of my choice."

    Whaaa?

    He must've written this himself.  No professional staff would have put those words together.

    I liked about half the statement...the half that wasn't all about him.

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    Don't forget (none / 0) (#42)
    by jbindc on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:45:20 AM EST
    his treatment for prostate cancer.

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    Here's what I like about this statement: (none / 0) (#62)
    by oculus on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 12:34:52 PM EST
    1) visiting Teddy's grave, 2) sailing reference, 3) sense of humor on the family thing.  

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    What I like: (5.00 / 1) (#64)
    by CST on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 12:40:25 PM EST
    "But none of us are irreplaceable.

    None of us are indispensible.

    Those who think otherwise are dangerous."

    Seems like a knock on the "masters of the universe"

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    I assumed that was a dig at the (none / 0) (#65)
    by oculus on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 12:42:07 PM EST
    Jesse Helms of the Senate.

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    My take on that too (none / 0) (#71)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 01:07:31 PM EST
    I liked (5.00 / 1) (#70)
    by mmc9431 on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 01:06:35 PM EST
    His comment on bipartisanship!

    I believe in bipartisan solutions, but I also believe you only achieve those results with vibrant, robust, and civil partisan debate.

    Was that a bit of a shot to the administration? I'd like to think so. They hung him out to dry too many times.

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    Sounds more like (5.00 / 1) (#73)
    by CST on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 01:12:14 PM EST
    a knock on republicans to me, them and the tea party brigade.

    Obama has been nothing if not civil.  Perhaps too civil.

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    Maybe (none / 0) (#76)
    by mmc9431 on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 01:17:39 PM EST
    My take on it was more that he was telling the Democrats that they aren't going to see Republicans working with them so just get the job done. But then maybe it was just wishful thinking on my part.

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    pretty much (none / 0) (#79)
    by CST on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 01:20:36 PM EST
    aka

    "bipartisan ship won't work with this bunch"

    knock on republicans, but a message to the dems.

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    I'm hugely looking forward to ignoring this (5.00 / 2) (#44)
    by Ellie on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:46:14 AM EST
    Game Change: Obama and the Clintons, McCain and Palin, and the Race of a Lifetime by John Heilemann and Mark Halperin

    "Heavyweight political writers from New York magazine and Time magazine take on the 2008 election." [/blurb]

    Giveaway that min. allowable rat feces were probably exceeded in this baloney: Clintons is plural.

    Maybe I missed this over the holidays (5.00 / 2) (#86)
    by jbindc on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 01:50:02 PM EST
    But this is a good (although long) read on the leadership of Obama (even though he loves the word "exhort" a bit too much):

    As the president's job performance numbers and ratings on his handling of virtually every domestic issue have fallen below 50 percent, the Democratic base has become demoralized, and Independents have gone from his source of strength to his Achilles Heel, it's time to reflect on why. The conventional wisdom from the White House is those "pesky leftists" -- those bloggers and Vermont Governors and Senators who keep wanting real health reform, real financial reform, immigration reform not preceded by a year or two of raids that leave children without parents, and all the other changes we were supposed to believe in.

    Somehow the president has managed to turn a base of new and progressive voters he himself energized like no one else could in 2008 into the likely stay-at-home voters of 2010, souring an entire generation of young people to the political process. It isn't hard for them to see that the winners seem to be the same no matter who the voters select (Wall Street, big oil, big Pharma, the insurance industry). In fact, the president's leadership style, combined with the Democratic Congress's penchant for making its sausage in public and producing new and usually more tasteless recipes every day, has had a very high toll far from the left: smack in the center of the political spectrum.

    What's costing the president and courting danger for Democrats in 2010 isn't a question of left or right, because the president has accomplished the remarkable feat of both demoralizing the base and completely turning off voters in the center. If this were an ideological issue, that would not be the case. He would be holding either the middle or the left, not losing both.

    What's costing the president are three things: a laissez faire style of leadership that appears weak and removed to everyday Americans, a failure to articulate and defend any coherent ideological position on virtually anything, and a widespread perception that he cares more about special interests like bank, credit card, oil and coal, and health and pharmaceutical companies than he does about the people they are shafting.

    The problem is not that his record is being distorted. It's that all three have more than a grain of truth. And I say this not as one of those pesky "leftists." I say this as someone who has spent much of the last three years studying what moves voters in the middle, the Undecideds who will hear whichever side speaks to them with moral clarity.




    Huff Post reporting (none / 0) (#1)
    by magster on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:08:38 AM EST
    that Ed Schultz is contemplating running for Dorgan's seat.

    He'd probably be as strong as anyone else in terms of $ and name recognition.  When Van Hollen was telling Schultz he should run for Senate last week, it kind of shows that Dorgan's retirement might not have been a surprise to party insiders after all.

    He should do it (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:16:19 AM EST
    Pomeroy is not going to run and Schultz won't hurt his career by running.

    I think it is a good idea.

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    Yeah, why not (none / 0) (#11)
    by andgarden on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:20:40 AM EST
    ND hasn't elected a Republican to Congress in ages, so who knows, he might get lucky with the right message.

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    Yuck! (none / 0) (#3)
    by jbindc on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:13:46 AM EST
    I'm repeating my comments on last night's OT (none / 0) (#14)
    by DFLer on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:26:23 AM EST
    as the discussion seems to have moved here, re jbindc's remarks about Ed there, referring to him as a blowhard hack:

    I like Ed

    He's a committed progressive, union supporter, and has been hammering all on his show for the past two months re the failures in the health care bill.

    He is not a hack, imo. He's a hunyack perhaps, and doesn't fit the coastal elite model, but then there you go then.

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    Sure he's a blowhard (5.00 / 2) (#20)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:29:27 AM EST
    That's his job. Might be a good fit for pol.

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    I didn't say he wasn't a BH. I think he isn't (none / 0) (#27)
    by DFLer on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:38:43 AM EST
    a hack. (quote from jbindc should have been blowhard and a hack)

    I like it when he blows, 'cause he blows against the right targets, imo.

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    He runs (none / 0) (#32)
    by jbindc on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:40:28 AM EST
    I send money to his opponent.

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    Once more for the defense: (5.00 / 1) (#113)
    by DFLer on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 03:41:40 PM EST
    Watching your side agree to fail: Last month, the Senate rejected Byron Dorgan's proposal to allow re-importation of prescription drugs. Ed Schultz screamed and yelled, to his credit. Elsewhere in the liberal world, this action was met with silence. Elsewhere on MSNBC, the clowning, joking and fooling persisted, driven by tapes of Carrie Prejean and good solid fun about Tiger.

    Daily Howler

    At least SOMEONE is blowing hard.

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    Not even Cynthia Thielen? (none / 0) (#139)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 09:45:31 PM EST
    I hear she's pretty decent on some things over there in Paradise--green energy, civil unions?  I like the idea of giving newly created beaches to the state instead of property owners.  

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    Ed Schulz (none / 0) (#26)
    by jbindc on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:38:21 AM EST
    is a former Republican (like Kos and Arianna) who once pondered a run against current Congressman Pomeroy and onvce told the LA Times that he "lined up with the Republicans because they were anti-tax, and I wanted to make a lot of money..." and even voted for Republicans as late as 2000.

    I stand by my statement - he is a blowhard hack who likes to hear himself talk - which is why he does ok on MSNBC and probably will do well (for himself, but not the people) in the Senate.  Sure he'll think about running - his ratings are terrible.

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    He can be our very own Conrad Burns (none / 0) (#28)
    by andgarden on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:39:05 AM EST
    he won't run anyway because of the money. (none / 0) (#29)
    by DFLer on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:39:34 AM EST
    He is a Rahmbo wet dream then (none / 0) (#72)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 01:11:08 PM EST
    I wonder how much "support" he'll find for his possible run?

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    Schulz' comments (none / 0) (#7)
    by jbindc on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:18:52 AM EST
    Broadcaster Ed Schultz, host of MSNBC's "The Ed Show," a liberal talk show, told MSNBC on Wednesday that he had been approached by a top North Dakota legislator to consider a Senate bid. Schultz, a North Dakota native who had a longtime radio show in Fargo, said he was "flattered" and "honored" but "I can't say that I'm even considering it right now ... I'm in a different place right now. So we're a long way from any consideration."



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    Sounds encouraging, but (none / 0) (#13)
    by brodie on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:25:45 AM EST
    isn't Big Ed a resident of MN?  Perhaps ND has very liberal rules about residency in filing for the US senate.

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    native of Fargo ND (none / 0) (#17)
    by DFLer on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:27:18 AM EST
    Born and raised (none / 0) (#30)
    by jbindc on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:39:49 AM EST
    in and around Norfolk, VA

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    sorry for the ignance - you are correct (none / 0) (#111)
    by DFLer on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 03:23:45 PM EST
    He moved to Minnesota to play football on a scholarship from Minnesota State University Moorhead, where he made All-American and became the NAIA passing leader in 1977. He played professional football in the CFL for the Winnipeg Blue Bombers.

    After his short football career ended, he worked as a sportscaster in Fargo, North Dakota for 15 years for two local stations, predominantly WDAY-TV, the local ABC affiliate. Schultz anchored nightly sports broadcasts, and became well known across the state for his high-energy radio and TV play-by-play of North Dakota State University (NDSU) football and basketball games.

    wikipedia

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    He can't (none / 0) (#34)
    by waldenpond on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:40:54 AM EST
    Schultz stated that he's only lived in the state for 2 years and does not qualify to run.

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    Huh? (none / 0) (#43)
    by andgarden on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:45:54 AM EST
    This is all you need to satisfy:

    No person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen.


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    His statement (none / 0) (#50)
    by waldenpond on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 12:00:56 PM EST
    last night.  Maybe he personally feels two years is not enough time.

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    That would be different (none / 0) (#54)
    by andgarden on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 12:04:18 PM EST
    and surprisingly humble. . .

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    Money (none / 0) (#58)
    by waldenpond on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 12:28:30 PM EST
    I have no idea about humble and his 'two years' comment is appearing bizarre as the other commentor noted he lives in MN.  Besides Chris Matthews, who would want to give up all of the money and attention and have to do some actual work.

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    Who? Both Maria Cantwell and Hillary (none / 0) (#94)
    by oldpro on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 02:35:42 PM EST
    come to mind.

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    So, all Ed needs to do (none / 0) (#53)
    by brodie on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 12:04:12 PM EST
    is move a few miles across state lines from his current MN home.  

    I say Dems could do worse, and Ed would probably give the R a good run for his money.  Lots of populist appeal and a no-nonsense straightforward attitude.  

    And the gig at Msnbc would probably still be available if he fell short -- at least that's the way the cables always worked it for Pat Buchanan.

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    No joke (none / 0) (#2)
    by lilburro on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:11:46 AM EST
    when I read this post at the end I heard the "Sportscenter" music in my mind.

    Will you watch 3D ESPN? (none / 0) (#6)
    by oculus on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:18:22 AM EST
    I dunno (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by lilburro on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:26:42 AM EST
    I didn't go see Avatar and I was never impressed by IMax.  

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    I recently saw a 3D movie at (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by oculus on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:42:07 AM EST
    Natural History Museum here on mummies.  The definition of the landscape was terrific. Much better than photos or regular movie.

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    Need the 3D TV (none / 0) (#8)
    by jbindc on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:19:06 AM EST
    NPR yesterday sd. need goggles (none / 0) (#33)
    by oculus on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:40:37 AM EST
    and HD TV.  

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    it's the goggles that get me (5.00 / 1) (#39)
    by lilburro on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:42:55 AM EST
    how can I fall asleep to Golden Girls reruns in goggles?  You can't tell me that at least 85% of America doesn't regularly fall asleep while watching their very exciting televisions.

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    I can't fall asleep... (5.00 / 1) (#55)
    by kdog on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 12:04:35 PM EST
    without either the stereo or the tv going...need background noise, silence is like No-Doze to me.

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    I can't do (5.00 / 1) (#78)
    by CST on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 01:19:00 PM EST
    that kind of noise.

    But if I don't have planes, trains, and cars somewhere in the background I have issues.

    The crickets are the worst though at keeping me up at night.  No sound at all is also a problem.

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    Us city kids.... (none / 0) (#87)
    by kdog on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 01:52:50 PM EST
    a police siren is like a lullaby:)

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    Lucky you, kdog (none / 0) (#90)
    by Zorba on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 01:57:16 PM EST
    I need some peace and quiet!

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    And the frogs in spring.... (none / 0) (#95)
    by oldpro on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 02:38:13 PM EST
    My husband is the same way (none / 0) (#74)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 01:12:49 PM EST
    and now after living with him I am broken too.

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    LOL! (5.00 / 2) (#88)
    by Zorba on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 01:56:13 PM EST
    I'm glad that you adapted, Militarytracy, but after almost 40 years of marriage, I haven't.  I still need both quiet and darkness to sleep- my husband can fall asleep with all the lights on and a band playing!  My best friends are foam ear plugs and a sleep mask.

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    Your old man... (none / 0) (#127)
    by kdog on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 05:22:27 PM EST
    sounds a lot like me...I'm the wonder of the family at Sunday dinners, napping in the afternoon with my nieces runnin' around causing a ruckus around me.

    My great uncle said it best..."That boy could sleep on a picket fence!"

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    Last night's re-run of Golden Girls kept (none / 0) (#131)
    by DFLer on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 06:08:13 PM EST
    me awake....the one in which Sophia gets laid!
    ( apologies...has sex?)

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    I think I know which one (none / 0) (#132)
    by lilburro on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 06:11:14 PM EST
    you're talking about!

    WE has had a marathon of GG for about 2 weeks now haven't they?

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    she wore a hot red dress and her lover was (none / 0) (#133)
    by DFLer on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 06:14:06 PM EST
    that guy who played the original joker....name?

    They ended up looking at photos of each other's deceased spouses...sweet.

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    Cesar Romero (5.00 / 1) (#140)
    by NJDem on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 10:33:08 PM EST
    The Golden Girls is my favorite show to fall asleep too....

    And the WE channel has a marathon every Monday--for some reason :)

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    Hmmm... (none / 0) (#36)
    by jbindc on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:41:45 AM EST
    Radio this morning said 3D tv needed.  Have to go check....

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    To be unvailed at Lss Vegas (none / 0) (#40)
    by oculus on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:43:12 AM EST
    big electronics show.  Stay tuned.

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    More info: (none / 0) (#46)
    by oculus on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:50:09 AM EST
    Re Polanski: status conference (none / 0) (#4)
    by oculus on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:15:54 AM EST
    today in L.A. Superior Court.  LAT

    Hate to break it to myself, but no one (5.00 / 1) (#63)
    by oculus on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 12:37:33 PM EST
    cares!!!

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    Sorry Oc... (none / 0) (#84)
    by kdog on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 01:38:21 PM EST
    only one link I wanna see to do with that story, and that is the case-closed link, hopefully with the old man outside a cage.

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    And my man Revis... (none / 0) (#9)
    by kdog on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:19:40 AM EST
    got Defensive Player of the Year...well deserved.

    You called it on Percy BTD...well done.

    It was just a question of (none / 0) (#18)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:28:12 AM EST
    whether he could stay on the field.

    Urban Meyer goes around saying Tim Tebow is the best player he has seen. It is ridiculous, considering Harvin was the best Gator when he was on the team.

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    Hard to disagree with the (none / 0) (#83)
    by brodie on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 01:33:39 PM EST
    Percy For ... Harvin pick as best offensive rook.  Probably a better first-year showing than the very-hyped Reggie Bush, who's just now starting to show promise, or at least when he isn't injured.

    Harvin is also a more gifted footballer than Tebow.  TT does a couple of athletic things well (run, pass), oh and maybe a third -- be tall -- while Percy does one thing well (catch the ball) and another thing -- run -- in a highly gifted way that isn't seen often.

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    Big Ten had best bowl season in memory? (none / 0) (#10)
    by Buckeye on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:20:01 AM EST
    Does your memory go back to 2001?  The Big Ten went 6-1 and won a National Title.

    We have also put up better numbers than this year since them a few times.

    2002? (none / 0) (#16)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:27:05 AM EST
    They went 6-1? Well, I'll take your word for it.

    To me this is the best Big Ten performance that I can remember.

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    You have a selective memory. (none / 0) (#25)
    by oculus on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:37:39 AM EST
    Don't we all? (5.00 / 1) (#31)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:40:21 AM EST
    Yes, it was 2002 not 2001 sorry. (none / 0) (#51)
    by Buckeye on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 12:00:58 PM EST
    I usually subtract a year on bowl games since the biggies happen in the following year (that screwed me up):

    Wisky 31, Col 28
    Minny 29  Ark 14
    Purdue  34  Wash. 24
    Mich. 38  Florida 30
    PSU 13  Auburn 9
    OSU 31  Miam 24

    USC 38  Iowa 17

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    Of course BTD doesn't remember... (none / 0) (#59)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 12:30:27 PM EST
    ...Florida lost (to Michigan even)!  I'm sure that's been deeply repressed...

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    And then there was the later rematch in (none / 0) (#60)
    by oculus on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 12:32:35 PM EST
    Capitol One Bowl.  

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    With Tim Tebow (none / 0) (#102)
    by cal1942 on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 03:09:16 PM EST
    on board yet.

    Unnatural hatred of Big Ten will do that.

    But, this year's Orange Bowl was special.  

    Hawks made all Big Ten people happy.  Damn that felt good.

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    The Arenas thing... (none / 0) (#21)
    by kdog on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:29:40 AM EST
    is one weird story...if the gambling debt was in dispute, accoprding to some reports it was, why the hell would Crittenton spot Arenas to cover the debt?

    Thank you for the kind words, BTD. (none / 0) (#22)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:30:05 AM EST
    I was going to give you a hard time about not making a prediction on the game, but will refrain.  

    It was a terrific win and a wonderful season for the program and the kids who played their hearts out week after week.    

    This morning we're all hoping that Coach Kirk is happy where he is at and doesn't fall victim to the siren song of the NFL.  And looking forward with great anticipation to next year.

    Go Hawks!

    I was going to pick Iowa (none / 0) (#24)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:34:31 AM EST
    as I have most of the year.

    (Remember I admitted that I would have picked Oregon State.)

    The NFL job he can easily have is Buffalo. I doubt that it is appealing enough for him.

    I suspect he might wait Lovey Smith out and go to the Bears when that job opens up.

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    Anything is possible... (none / 0) (#35)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:41:27 AM EST
    ...but he's got it pretty good in Iowa City.  Highest paid State employee, new contract extension to '15, three kids attending Iowa (one on the team) and one son still in HS in Iowa City.  

    If he were so inclined, he could probably win any State-wide office we wanted.  

    A very big fish in a very little pond.

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    I predict we... (none / 0) (#47)
    by kdog on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:50:38 AM EST
    see a Schotty end up in Buffalo...either Brian or Marty or both.

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    Where does... (none / 0) (#48)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 11:55:18 AM EST
    ...THAT GUY, Jon Grueden end up?  Not that I care, I just don't want to have to listen to him anymore...

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    I like Gruden. (none / 0) (#80)
    by brodie on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 01:27:36 PM EST
    He gets a little too enthusiastic at times, but better to have at least one emotional guy in a 3-person broadcast booth.  Helps to sell what is often a less than scintillating game.

    Definitely an improvement over that Joe Theisman guy, the egomaniac who changed the pronunciation of his last name (formerly Theese-man) to rhyme with Heisman, or so it is told.

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    I like the 2 man booth myself... (none / 0) (#89)
    by kdog on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 01:56:14 PM EST
    one play by play guy, one color guy...Tirico and Jaws can handle it just fine by themselves.

    Small world update...my older bro went to Junior High with Mike Tirico.  PS 194 represent!

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    Speaking of all things football... (none / 0) (#69)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 12:49:10 PM EST
    ...what's the story with the Jet's owner's daughter?  

    Engaged to Tila Tequilla or some such thing and found dead?

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    Jesus Christ...that story has (none / 0) (#77)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 01:17:50 PM EST
    so much Enquirer mileage on it...at least they won't be going broke during this "recession".

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    Yeah... (none / 0) (#81)
    by kdog on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 01:30:25 PM EST
    big news in the local papers...what is there to say except condolences to the Johnson clan.  

    Poor Woody...from the high of a miracle playoff appearance to such a low.

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    BTW... (none / 0) (#96)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 02:43:06 PM EST
    ...love how that article from the Philly paper is all about Stanzi and contains nary a mention of the defense (which won the game) or the MVP, D-lineman Clayborn.

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    So who is coaching FL next season? (none / 0) (#57)
    by oculus on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 12:18:38 PM EST


    I heard what position... (5.00 / 1) (#66)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 12:42:24 PM EST
    ...Tebow is going to play in the NFL--created especially for him.

    Jesusback.  

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    Subtle. I still think he is cute, even (none / 0) (#68)
    by oculus on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 12:45:50 PM EST
    after seeing Zac Efron yesterday in "Me and Orson Welles."  (Didn't know Efron is a teen idol.)

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    Should I send you a Tebow thong? (5.00 / 1) (#75)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 01:16:26 PM EST
    They make them and they wear them around here...hanging out the rear of their britches :)

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    WWTS? (5.00 / 1) (#82)
    by kdog on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 01:31:12 PM EST
    What would Tebow say to something so risque?

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    That's a wrist band right there (none / 0) (#85)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 01:39:03 PM EST
    or at least a lapel pin.

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    Curious (none / 0) (#91)
    by lilburro on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 01:57:39 PM EST
    as to how Obama will handle losing the Senate.  Hopefully he can get confrontational. 1995?

    He'll buy a bigger platter to hand (5.00 / 2) (#92)
    by nycstray on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 02:01:25 PM EST
    things to the Republicans, corps etc . . .

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    Nah (5.00 / 3) (#93)
    by jbindc on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 02:01:44 PM EST
    It will allow him to fully explore PPUS.

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    blame the black guy (none / 0) (#99)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 03:03:40 PM EST
    Worst GOP cash flow in decade blamed on tea baggers and waste
    Politico reported over the weekend that the National Republican Congressional Committee, the main instrument for fighting congressional elections, raised one-third as much money last year as its Democratic counterpart. While the DCCC has $15.3 million going into 2010, with $2.6 million in debt, the NRCC has $4.3 million left, with $2 million in debt.
    That lack of enthusiasm for the GOP has many inside the party taking a hard look at the leadership of Michael Steele

    Steel may be a tool but he is hardly their biggest problem.  IMO

    that's good news (none / 0) (#104)
    by CST on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 03:10:48 PM EST
    agree about Steele.  Although he is a walking punchline.  I don't know too many people who decide to donate or not based on the head of a comittee so much as the people they represent.

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    The smart money's (none / 0) (#116)
    by jondee on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 04:34:14 PM EST
    going to the other Republican party.

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    But (none / 0) (#117)
    by jbindc on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 04:48:43 PM EST
    The RGA (and DGA) had record hauls of cash in, which is also very important as there are 37 governorships up for grabs this year. And the RGA has a lot more money than the DGA.

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    IMO (none / 0) (#118)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 04:50:17 PM EST
    any significant gains for the Rs will be governors.
    but, as we know, I have been wrong before.

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    Which is really something to watch (none / 0) (#120)
    by jbindc on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 04:54:23 PM EST
    Because this year was an anomaly, where we were assured a sitting Senator in the WH (hasn't happened since JFK and before that...?)  Despite this year and the fact that some people didn't think experience mattered, it is still governors that get elected to the WH because voters like someone 1) who has executive experience, and 2 )Senators usually have a body of votes to defend - votes that could have been on cloture motions, but because they have random line items in them, the opponents can scream "Sen, X voted for Y!!!"

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    Warren G. Harding (none / 0) (#128)
    by caseyOR on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 05:37:08 PM EST
    Before Obama, the successful presidential candidates from the senate were  JFK and Harding. Harding brought us the Teapot Dome Scandal.

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    Not to be confused with (none / 0) (#130)
    by jondee on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 05:48:58 PM EST
    the other dome scandal years later.

    Though, apparently Harding had that going on too.

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    The Big Unit retires...am I the only one (none / 0) (#100)
    by oldpro on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 03:03:45 PM EST
    who cares?

    Thanks for the memories, Randy.  You were great fun to watch in the early days with the Mariners...hearts were broken when you left.

    I mentioned it earlier! (5.00 / 1) (#105)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 03:11:01 PM EST
    The big guy was fun to watch pitch, that's for sure.  And, what M's fan doesn't long for the good old days when Unit, Junior and Edgar were in their prime?

    First ballot HOF'er.

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    Guess I missed your post...dangit. (none / 0) (#107)
    by oldpro on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 03:15:20 PM EST
    Ah, the good old days...when we were ALL in our prime!

    Well, some of us, anyway...

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    Ain't that the truth!!! n/t (none / 0) (#109)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 03:18:10 PM EST
    Happy New Year, Hawk... (none / 0) (#110)
    by oldpro on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 03:21:53 PM EST
    ...the sun is out here on the bay - another gorgeous northwest winter day.

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    Same to you, OP! (none / 0) (#112)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 03:25:45 PM EST
    I hope it gets better for my co-workers though.  One's wife had a stroke NYE and one's daughter passed away suddenly.  

    Weighs a little heavy on my heart.  

    Cold and snowy here, but that's to be expected as the National Western Stock Show starts this weekend.  

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    I saw him once (none / 0) (#101)
    by CST on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 03:08:01 PM EST
    walking down the street when he was with the yankees and they were in town.

    Very very tall.  And scowling.  But I did like him when I had him on my fantasy team.

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    Hard to miss Randy even in a (none / 0) (#106)
    by oldpro on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 03:12:37 PM EST
    crowd!  Big guy...big.  And the scowl seemed a permanent fixture...probably frozen...the look he gave a batter at the plate!

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    Great Pitcher... (none / 0) (#103)
    by kdog on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 03:10:21 PM EST
    totally unlikeable, but great.  

    Only one inductee into Cooperstown this year, Andre Dawson aka Andre Awesome aka The Hawk...well deserved imo, one of only 3 players with 400 dingers & 300 steals...and an 8 time Gold Glover.  

    Glad Robbie Alomar didn't get in, though he will eventually I'm sure...great player but I can't forgive those 2 stinkbomb seasons with my Mets.

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    The best sliders have their own nicknames (none / 0) (#114)
    by Ellie on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 03:45:22 PM EST
    "Mr Nasty"

    His just fell right off the table. How did he do that????

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    red meat for KDog (none / 0) (#115)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 04:08:46 PM EST
    Court spectator sues judge for drug-testing him `on a hunch'

    Benjamin Marchant's lawsuit (PDF) against Dickson County Judge Durwood Moore says Marchant was a spectator in the court in January of 2009, waiting to give a friend a ride home, when Moore ordered sheriff's deputies to administer a urinalysis on Marchant on nothing more than a "hunch."

    Marchant says he was released when the drug test came back negative.

    His lawsuit states that Judge Moore admitted that he "routinely drug-screens 'spectators' in his courtroom if he 'thinks' they may be under the influence of drugs or alcohol," a policy Moore reportedly calls "routine," according to Courthouse News.



    Grrrr.... (none / 0) (#121)
    by kdog on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 04:59:18 PM EST
    you know me too well Capt...I nominate Judge Moore for arsehole of the the new decade.  

    Besides, its not illegal to be high, as far as I know...only to be holding...I always assumed if you used 'em all you were all good with John Law, as long as you ain't operating heavy machinery, and until you re-up that is.

    Glad Judge Moore wasn't in the building when I served on the grand jury...I was no true-billing like a mofo feeling euphoric...it was like a month long vacation, I pray they call me to serve again, it was awesome....but if the DA's have their way my arse is blacklisted:)

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    a "hunch" (5.00 / 1) (#122)
    by Capt Howdy on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 05:07:35 PM EST
    good freakin god

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    So (none / 0) (#123)
    by jbindc on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 05:11:31 PM EST
    you weren't necessarily service justice - just no-true billing because you were high and have contempt for the system?  Is that what you are saying??

    From one grand jury handbook:

    When you serve on the grand jury, you are a public official with a duty to follow the law as it is written.  Whether you agree with a certain law does not matter.  You must perform your duties and make your decisions using the law as a guideline, not your personal feelings.  As a public official, you must obey the law as it exists.


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    Being in a euphoric state... (none / 0) (#124)
    by kdog on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 05:18:38 PM EST
    had nothing to do with the no true-billin', I assure you....thats just me, in na sober or euphoric state:)  

    If I recall correctly I did true bill one or two charges that were pretty bad, but for the most part we had really minor non-crime stuff...but fear not my law and order loving friend...I was only able to talk my fellow jurors into no true billin' one measly charge all month...your precious system is safe from little old me.  I was just experimenting with grand jury nullification.

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    You're incorrigible. :) (none / 0) (#126)
    by jbindc on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 05:19:58 PM EST
    A foolish consistency (none / 0) (#129)
    by jondee on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 05:44:30 PM EST
    is the hobgoblins you frolic with when high.

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    Peter Orszag is a dirty bird! (none / 0) (#125)
    by jbindc on Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 05:19:23 PM EST
    Apparently dumped his pregnant girlfriend to date an ABC reporter (to whom he's now engaged).

    She gave birth (none / 0) (#141)
    by jbindc on Thu Jan 07, 2010 at 10:52:07 AM EST
    And then he announced his engagement to the new woman.

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