Making The Case: Boise And TCU Have The Floor

By Big Tent Democrat, Section Other Politics
Posted on Mon Jan 04, 2010 at 05:40:55 PM EST
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Entering the college bowl season, there were 5 unbeaten teams left in college football. Two of them meet in the national championship game - Alabama and Texas. 1 of them, Cincinnati, met Florida in the Sugar Bowl. Cincy got pasted by 27 points in a game that was not that close. So much for the idea that the Bearcats were the best team. The last two - TCU and Boise State, meet tonight in the Fiesta Bowl. Both teams have a chance to make their case tonight that they are the best teams.

TCU is a 7 point favorite. Sagarin has TCU as 4 points better. The teams met a year ago in the Poinsetta Bowl, with TCU eking out a 1 point win. Boise has a signature win over Pac 10 champion Oregon (not so valuable now that the Pac 10 has been exposed in the bowls.) TCU won the Mountain West, which has shined in the bowl games.

I think TCU is the better team. I think they win and cover. I like the Horned Frogs (-7).

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Could be an audition... (none / 0) (#1)
by MileHi Hawkeye on Mon Jan 04, 2010 at 06:14:10 PM EST

...for the big conferences as well. BSU is rumoured to be on the list for inclusion in the BigTen and TCU is a said to be a possible replacement in the Big 12 should someone like Missouri go to the BT.

Not Big Ten (none / 0) (#17)
by cal1942 on Tue Jan 05, 2010 at 01:20:45 AM EST

Not a snowball's chance.

The Rutgers suggestion was met with opposition because of the travel distances.

Your volleyball team has to go from College Station PA to Boise. Your golf team, etc.

Not gonna happen.

If the Big Ten picks a 12th school it will have to be geographically contiguous.


"My" teams... (none / 0) (#19)
by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Jan 05, 2010 at 08:21:10 AM EST

...have to travel from Iowa City to Happy Valley now. Not much difference in travel time to get to Boise.

Personally, I'd like to see Mizzu rather than Rutgers or Pitt.

It's not going to be solely about geography, it is going to come down to television markets, athletics and academics. Cincinnati and Louisville were being talked about too, but don't have the academics.


Televison markets (none / 0) (#21)
by cal1942 on Tue Jan 05, 2010 at 02:32:17 PM EST

Yes. That's part of the Big Ten's advantage over other conferences.

That's why geography contiguous to the Big Ten would be a factor; yield more TV sets. Certainly few TV sets would be added with Boise State.

If Boise State is serious about big time recognition they should campaign for admittance in the PAC-10.

I have an unfounded impression that they wish to remain in the current situation. They get more publicity and more opportunity as the great threat to the majors than they would ever get as just another member of a major conference.

Bank on it, their won-lost record and unique appeal would diminish in a major conference environment.


: Nope (none / 0) (#22)
by mcjoan on Tue Jan 05, 2010 at 04:54:29 PM EST

They've been trying to get into another conference--specifically Mountain West and to a lesser extent Pac-10. The schools in these conferences have been less than enthusiastic about the prospect.

I like Boise, but it'll be a squeaker (none / 0) (#2)
by mcjoan on Mon Jan 04, 2010 at 06:54:51 PM EST

So I say Boise, 7. But then I have to say Broncs, since I'm sitting here in my new blue Boise /Fiesta Bowl t-shirt in Boise.

Thanks for deigning to include our little teams n your consideration here, BTD. Heh.

Boise is good (none / 0) (#4)
by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Jan 04, 2010 at 07:27:15 PM EST

No doubt.

I think TCU has an outstanding team, maybe the best in the country.

I think Alabama and Florida are a cut above Texas and Boise.

My own rankings as of now are 1. Alabama, 2. TCU, 3. Florida, 4. Boise, 5. Texas.


The problem is (none / 0) (#7)
by mcjoan on Mon Jan 04, 2010 at 07:36:20 PM EST

Other than Oregon, they couldn't really show what they had this season. That, admittedly, makes me nervous going into tonight. And the jitters Kellen is showing early on here.

BTW, you saw that Coach Pete signed on for a new five-year contract? So you rapacious Gator folks are just going to have to wait (or make it very, very worth his while, but since he's the guy that told the university to split his raise up among his assistant coaches his first year as head, he won't be easily bribed).


: Now that's more like it (none / 0) (#8)
by mcjoan on Mon Jan 04, 2010 at 07:37:27 PM EST

That's the BSU we know and love.

There is one glaring problem (none / 0) (#16)
by cal1942 on Tue Jan 05, 2010 at 01:08:19 AM EST

with including Boise State among the top 5. The conference they play in is simply not challenging enough to warrent consideration.

Boise State's victory over Oregon at home in the opener means little. Oregon was foolish to schedule that game on the road. It was a no win situation.

The week in week out pounding in a major conference should be a prerequisite for consideration, not an occasional win against a major conference team.

I wouldn't rank Boise State in the top ten.


Boise (none / 0) (#3)
by TeresaInSnow2 on Mon Jan 04, 2010 at 07:05:41 PM EST

gets no respect. Please let them win.

Indeed (none / 0) (#5)
by mcjoan on Mon Jan 04, 2010 at 07:32:27 PM EST

thanks for the solidarity!


I'm rooting for Boise! (none / 0) (#10)
by otherlisa on Mon Jan 04, 2010 at 09:19:25 PM EST

That New Year's day game they won a few years back was one of the best football games I've ever seen.


: Whooohoooo! (none / 0) (#12)
by mcjoan on Mon Jan 04, 2010 at 11:03:22 PM EST

The underdogs do it again.

I'm a Washingtonian (none / 0) (#18)
by TeresaInSnow2 on Tue Jan 05, 2010 at 01:35:52 AM EST

with a long line of relatives from Idaho.

Go Boise State (and thank you for winning!)


It seems odd... (none / 0) (#6)
by MileHi Hawkeye on Mon Jan 04, 2010 at 07:34:18 PM EST

...to watch Boise State play on green grass.

And in orange pants (n/t) (none / 0) (#9)
by mcjoan on Mon Jan 04, 2010 at 07:37:57 PM EST

Yes... (none / 0) (#11)
by MileHi Hawkeye on Mon Jan 04, 2010 at 09:42:18 PM EST

...not very smurf-like at all tonight.

Who would have guessed this game would turn out to be a defensive struggle?


I knew BSU had an (none / 0) (#13)
by mcjoan on Mon Jan 04, 2010 at 11:04:45 PM EST

underrated defense, but this was a very pleasant surprise.


You called it (none / 0) (#14)
by Natal on Mon Jan 04, 2010 at 11:38:04 PM EST

correctly -- by 7 points. Congrats.


: After I wrote that (none / 0) (#15)
by mcjoan on Mon Jan 04, 2010 at 11:48:16 PM EST

I thought about amending it to 3 points. Good thing Coach Pete keeps a trick or two up his sleeve.

A surprise indeed... (none / 0) (#20)
by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Jan 05, 2010 at 09:40:03 AM EST

...considering that Vegas had the over/under on points at 55 and together they were averaging eighty something points a game.

Congrats Bronco's. At least one football team with that name had a good year!
