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The Jewish New Year, Rosh Hashanah starts tonight, beginning the Days of Awe culminating in Yom Kippur. The President offered this message:

L'shana tova, tikatevu to all of you.

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    Indeed, happy new year (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by andgarden on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 09:47:45 AM EST
    Two outstanding videos today:

    1. NSFW!!!! but hilarious.

    2. Aren't you glad you don't drive a 50s deathtrap?


    omg (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 09:57:38 AM EST
    one of the coolest cars I ever owned was a Black 1960 BelAir convertible.  red leather interior four speed Hurst on the floor.

    glad I never had a head on.


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    Yeah, (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by andgarden on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 10:02:58 AM EST
    My impression is that safety technology has improved exponentially since the 80s. You're probably safer in a new subcompact than an old Volvo.

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    In College I had a ... (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by Robot Porter on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 10:06:27 AM EST
    Ford Galaxy 500.  Painted it matte black and put graffiti all over it.

    Got stopped by the cops any time I drove anywhere.

    Ah, the silly things we do in Art School.

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    heh (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 10:13:12 AM EST
    yeah
    my FIRST car was a 1954 ford that had no front seat.  I used a folding lawn chair.  but it had a back seat and if that seat could talk . . .

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    That's funny (5.00 / 1) (#61)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 12:12:18 PM EST
    I had a '54 Ford that, after I bought it and looked at it in a certain light said "Richmond Police Department" under the creme paint job.

    It would pass anything except a gas station... and all fillups included 1 Qt of 30W.

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    Oy (none / 0) (#13)
    by andgarden on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 10:14:55 AM EST
    I think... (none / 0) (#62)
    by kdog on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 12:19:35 PM EST
    driving a whip like that these days is punishable by up to 1 year in prison...won't even begin to compute the fines.

    And what went on in the backseat might qualify you for a sex offender registry today.

    Are we sure we're making progress?...:)

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    You're brave... (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by kdog on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 10:15:05 AM EST
    I'm scared to put a bumper sticker on my whip lest I draw attention.

    Low profile is the only way to roll...its a tyrannical jungle on the roads.

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    Those were ... (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by Robot Porter on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 10:22:46 AM EST
    my punk rock days.  Didn't really go in for "low profile."

    ;)

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    Reluctantly (5.00 / 3) (#30)
    by daring grace on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 10:39:48 AM EST
    I'm with you these days, kdog. Though as a 50 something woman I probably don't profile as a driver of interest any more (if ever).

    Still, when I was in my twenties I was riding in a van that was stopped by a trooper because it had a "Drink Carrot Juice" bumper sticker on it (I kid you not) and the driver was admonished for driving a 'commercial vehicle' (he said the bumper sticker constituted advertising!) on the Taconic where they are prohibited.

    The van was full of long haired hippie types so I'm guessing the trooper was hoping to catch a vagrant whiff of something out the driver's window.

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    When I think about it... (5.00 / 3) (#36)
    by kdog on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 10:49:40 AM EST
    I'm amazed, totally floored, that Kesey and the Pranksters ever made it cross country.

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    What a waste (none / 0) (#20)
    by scribe on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 10:22:46 AM EST
    of a beautiful 59 Chevy.

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    heh (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by andgarden on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 10:24:51 AM EST
    Difference in perspective, I guess. It looks pretty ugly from where I sit, and that's not just because it gives the occupants essentially no chance of survival.

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    it was actually (none / 0) (#25)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 10:27:06 AM EST
    surprising.  I would have thought those heavy old cars would have done better.

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    Hard car, mushy occupant (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by andgarden on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 10:30:33 AM EST
    The impact has to dissipate somewhere.

    Also, now you see another reason why unibody construction is so much better.

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    My mechanic uncle (none / 0) (#54)
    by Fabian on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 11:42:18 AM EST
    hated unibodies.  Simple reason - they were difficult to repair if they were damaged.  His advice was to get rid of a unibody car if it suffered a major accident because anyone who said the frame could be fixed was full of it.

    Since I have avoided accidents, I've never needed his advice.  [cross fingers]

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    He was right and wrong (5.00 / 1) (#56)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 11:48:01 AM EST
    Unibody's have no real "frame" as we use to understand. And early on many body shops didn't have the equipment to straighten the "body."

    That has changed over the years but I'd ask for references before I had any work done.

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    You know what's funny about that (none / 0) (#55)
    by andgarden on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 11:45:27 AM EST
    You should get rid of ANY CAR after a major accident. I'm thankful that deathmobiles can no longer be so easily cosmetically repaired.

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    The old deathtraps (none / 0) (#58)
    by Fabian on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 11:52:17 AM EST
    could be repaired after a collision.  That's probably not much comfort to the people injured or killed though.

    Cars are cheap, compared to medical bills et cetera.

    Thinking about people I have known in accidents, the only death I can recall was my brother's HS friend who lost control in a snowstorm and was broadsided so hard the vehicle was broken in two.  The other accidents have left the passengers and drivers in good condition, even when the vehicle was totaled.

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    It was an impact at a relative speed of (5.00 / 4) (#39)
    by scribe on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 10:52:09 AM EST
    80 mph - each car was going 40 mph.

    Thinking back, it was unsurprisng that the '59's driver was killed instantly.  I'm old enough to remember that a head-on collision (or a crash into a fixed object) back then was pretty much the same as breaking your neck - you were going to die, quickly.

    Nowadays, I recall driving by accidents where it was obvious from all the parts lying on the road) that the cars had rolled over 3 and 4 times and the entire family was there sitting on the embankment, chatting and talking to the cop taking the report like nothing had happened.  And they'd walk away from a crash that would have wiped them out 30 or 40 years ago.

    The construction of those old cars was still based on the model of a horse-drawn coach - build an H-frame and then bolt a box onto it. The fenders and bodywork were, at best, streamlining and, at worst, going to fold up and make the impact worse as they cut through the passenger compartment.  No one had given a thought to building a car from the inside of the passenger compartment out - and for the idea of cushioning and restraining the passengers inside a rigid cage that would protect them from the outside.  Indeed, TPTB at the car companies actively resisted going after safety (As opposed to style and power) because it was believed to be bad for sales, that people would be scared from buying a new car if they thought it might be unsafe.  Seat belts weren't in all cars until a federal regulation required them (in the 1966 model year, IIRC), over the resistance of the industry.

    You name the safety improvement, and industry resisted it.  Air bags were a 25 or 30 year fight.  It was only the combination of product liability lawsuits brought on behalf of injured people and aggressive government regulation that made your cars safer than that '59.  When the cost of safety improvements got to be less than the cost of paying for the injuries, you got safety.

    A very instructive lesson for the health care debate, too.

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    "Keep plucking that chicken" (none / 0) (#32)
    by Cream City on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 10:42:34 AM EST
    is what I hear, every time I watch that (as it went viral yesterday).  But every broadcast student still (as in the olden days) ought to be taught that anything that rhymes with the F-word is risky!

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    I hear the f-bomb pretty clearly (none / 0) (#35)
    by andgarden on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 10:44:16 AM EST
    as does the co-anchor. Oops!

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    I hear it too (none / 0) (#43)
    by Steve M on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 11:12:53 AM EST
    but what was he trying to say?  What was the context?  I am baffled.

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    No idea (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by andgarden on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 11:14:39 AM EST
    It seems totally incoherent. But I think lots of TV blather is similarly silly.

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    Ernie Anastos... (none / 0) (#80)
    by kdog on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 02:03:13 PM EST
    is a NY anchorman legend...I hope he doesn't get canned over it.

    Ernie on CBS, Chuck Scarborough on NBC, Bill Buetel on ABC...thats my childhood right there!

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    Seriously worth reading (5.00 / 4) (#16)
    by scribe on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 10:16:41 AM EST
    Found, 60-plus years after the event, the cantor who sang at the first Jewish prayer service broadcast from German soil after the rise of Hitler.  The service was for US Jewish soldiers during the battle for Aachen;  it was broadcast and recorded, and someone found the tape somewhere, then put it up on YouTube.

    You can hear the artillery in the background.

    Every Friday, it hits me in the late morning my time.  The German radio station I listen to through the computer devotes a half-hour around sundown their time to a rabbi reading the relevant lesson, teaching, and singing.  And every time, I wind up sitting in awe of how far we all have come.

    Seriously worth reading and listening (5.00 / 1) (#100)
    by noholib on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 04:55:49 PM EST
    Thank you very much for posting the link to the recording.  I only had time to listen to Ein Kelohenu ... the prayer that closes most synagogue services ... and that proclaims "there is none like our God ... blessed be our God... " It is so incredibly deep and moving to hear the well-worn words and the familiar melody sung in those circumstances ...
    Jewish tradition says that the New Year, Rosh ha-shanah, is the birthday of the entire world, so wishing everyone a "good and sweet year."

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    WOW! n/t (none / 0) (#66)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 12:38:30 PM EST
    End of Ramadan (5.00 / 3) (#26)
    by CST on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 10:28:52 AM EST
    As well this weekend.  Going to an iftar with my sisters, one of whom is a Muslim convert.  Should be an interesting experience.  The other sister and I will be the respectfull, holding our toungues (holidays are not the time to have those "discussions"), showing our hair, athiest/agnostic hussies.

    I just hope she doesn't try to marry me off to one of her husband's friends.  Finding Allah doesn't run in the family.

    Not to mention... (5.00 / 2) (#29)
    by desertswine on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 10:38:01 AM EST
    tomorrow is "Talk Like a Pirate Day."

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    Insane AP Headline (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by daring grace on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 10:43:52 AM EST
    Is it just me, or does that seem, like, from another era?

    Insane killer from Spokane on the loose


    The question (none / 0) (#44)
    by Steve M on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 11:14:32 AM EST
    is how do you pronounce "Insane"?

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    How about.. (none / 0) (#78)
    by lentinel on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 01:54:53 PM EST
    "Sane killer on the loose"?

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    Even in Oklahoma... (5.00 / 2) (#40)
    by desertswine on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 11:01:54 AM EST
    this has got to be bad news, or, maybe not.

    75% of Okla high school students can't name the first pres of the US>

    Inhofe and Coburn must be so proud.

    was talking (5.00 / 1) (#41)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 11:05:18 AM EST
    about this on another blog yesterday.  I think we miss the point if we think this is an OK think.

    I would bet you would get the same result in pretty much any state in the union.
    I work with some actual teenagers.  you have to be 17 to work here and some are.  and they are brilliant at what they do but as far as everything else they are dumb as a bag of hammers.

    its like being a savant was not an aberration but the next step in evolution.  we are becoming a nation of savants.

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    But how the heck (5.00 / 1) (#46)
    by Steve M on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 11:15:12 AM EST
    does anyone not know George Washington was the first president?  The only thing I can think of is that it was a phone poll and maybe that makes it funky.

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    heres a comment from the (5.00 / 4) (#47)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 11:17:38 AM EST
    discussion yesterday:

    When I worked at Oklahoma State, one of my grad assistants was getting her Ph.D. in history, which means she got to teach the required freshman course in American History. She gave a little quiz the first day to see what she was up against, and found more than half of them thought George Washington was President during WWII. I took her out to get drunk.


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    another (5.00 / 1) (#48)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 11:18:30 AM EST
    Finally, note that it doesn't get better with more schooling - I also scored entry tests for the proficiency testing scorers, and could count on at least a percent or two thinking that Japan attacked Pearl Harbor because we nuked them first... (FWIW, everyone taking that test had to have a 4 year degree)


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    ::Sob:: (5.00 / 2) (#51)
    by andgarden on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 11:27:17 AM EST
    And, at some point (5.00 / 1) (#53)
    by Inspector Gadget on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 11:40:00 AM EST
    A few of these will slip through the cracks, get a job writing text books and tests. Or, maybe, based on the survey, some already have.

    So, the remaining 25% who do know who Washington was will have all the important jobs?

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    Washington? (none / 0) (#77)
    by lentinel on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 01:53:56 PM EST
    Jack Washington played baritone saxophone in the Count Basie Band.
    That's good enough for me.

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    The first president? (5.00 / 2) (#75)
    by lentinel on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 01:50:11 PM EST
    It was Washington Irving.
    It has become an accepted but inaccurate tale that George Washington was the first president. He was, in fact, a tailor in the lower East Side of what was then New Amsterdam.
    He crossed the Delaware only after a toll bridge had been constructed.
    Washington Irving, on the other hand, wrote several books and guided our country to victory over the British.
    His cousin, Irving Berlin, went on to write many memorable songs.

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    Then there was (5.00 / 2) (#79)
    by ruffian on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 01:55:53 PM EST
    George Washington Carver, the first black peanut farmer president.

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    What kills me (none / 0) (#50)
    by Fabian on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 11:25:53 AM EST
    is that Washington's likeness is on the quarter and the one dollar bill.  Maybe people use nothing but plastic?

    Side note: Went to curriculum night and poked through the second grade math book.  It would help immensely for anyone using that book to know bill denominations by the famous faces because when they shrunk the bill down to 1:8 scale, I had a hard time reading the numbers.  Maybe an artificial contrast on the numerals?

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    Reminds me... (5.00 / 3) (#60)
    by kdog on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 12:10:48 PM EST
    ever notice how so few retail clerks can make proper change without the register telling 'em what the change is?

    Like when the bill is $8.42, ya give 'em a sawbuck, they punch in 10 bucks, then you give 'em the 42 cents ya dug out your pocket and they look at you like ya got three heads?  It's scary.

    Then there was this bush doctor in the neighborhood who I would call in a pinch for a dub...I pay with a hundred and I'd end up with a sack and 120 bucks in small bills. I explained to the man that he wasn't gonna be in business long doing that, and gave him 40 bucks back.

    Can't put it all on the schools though...too many parents out there think putting the kid on the bus fulfills their duty to educate them...it is sad.  

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    I tell you (none / 0) (#63)
    by Fabian on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 12:23:41 PM EST
    putting cash in little hands makes them pay attention - especially when they have to give you the change.  Heck, no!  They want to keep it!

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    As we've both said many times... (5.00 / 1) (#49)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 11:24:18 AM EST
    ...Idiocracy, it's not just a movie...

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    Sounds like some kids... (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by kdog on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 11:06:21 AM EST
    are gonna need their parents put their Herbie Hancock on some report cards.

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    I blame President's Day (5.00 / 1) (#68)
    by ruffian on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 01:00:07 PM EST
    When I was a kid...after walking 2 miles up hill in the snow to get to school...we learned about G. Washington because we had a holiday for his birthday. Now it is all generic - yeah, there were some presidents....go to the mattress sale.

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    The Jehovahs Witnesses here (none / 0) (#102)
    by Inspector Gadget on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 07:26:14 PM EST
    refused to send their kids to school on the days when activities would be about President's Day. Not sure if they succeeded in getting the schools to stop teaching it so they could remain in class. I just know they were trying real hard to do that back when my kids were in elementary school.
     

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    ok deep thinkers (5.00 / 1) (#81)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 02:04:03 PM EST
    think you are so smart.  try this:

    who was president when

    I got 50%

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    I'm a pretty good guesser.... (none / 0) (#82)
    by kdog on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 02:11:00 PM EST
    I scored 67%, 8 outta 12.

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    I am a bad guesser (none / 0) (#87)
    by CST on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 02:26:59 PM EST
    very bad.  25%.  Althuogh I do feel that some of the people who lived through some of this stuff have a leg up.  How am I supposed to know when the Beatles were on Ed Sullivan?  Who's Ed Sullivan? (j/k).  Also, fairly terrible at history.  Although I do know who George Washington is...

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    well (none / 0) (#89)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 02:33:08 PM EST
    embarrassed to say I was alive during most of the choices and I still guessed.

    btw
    I missed the sullivan question. and I WATCHED the show.

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    it doesn't help (none / 0) (#93)
    by CST on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 02:58:39 PM EST
    that I went 0 for 9 on the guesses.  I knew 3 of them, I got 3 right.  President during WW 1, Brown vs. Board, and first pres in the whitehouse.

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    I thought the Beatles question... (none / 0) (#90)
    by kdog on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 02:42:53 PM EST
    was the lay-up of the bunch, along with the Space Invaders..more to do with my knowledge of Beatles and video games, not presidents.

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    10 out of 12 (none / 0) (#84)
    by Anne on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 02:22:17 PM EST
    Better than I expected...

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    Check out the big brain.. (none / 0) (#86)
    by kdog on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 02:26:00 PM EST
    on Anne!  Nice job, not an easy quiz imo.

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    I tried not to overthink it, (none / 0) (#88)
    by Anne on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 02:32:02 PM EST
    but, honestly, some were just flat-out guesses - lucky ones, apparently!

    I missed the Space Invaders question and the Little League one...I totally guessed on the Egg McMuffin, the Rutgers/Princeton football game and the Peanuts debut.  

    It could have been a lot worse...

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    Bad guesser - 42% (none / 0) (#92)
    by ruffian on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 02:51:16 PM EST
    When I know, I know. When I don't, I guess wrong! Story of my life.

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    12/12 100% (none / 0) (#108)
    by aeguy on Sat Sep 19, 2009 at 02:19:25 PM EST
    No joke. I got lucky with 3 guesses though.

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    I sometimes listen (none / 0) (#67)
    by eric on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 12:38:53 PM EST
    to Thom Hartman on the radio talking about the conservatives efforts to undermine public education.  His angle is really a bit on the conspiracy theory side of things - he alleges that there is an active effort to keep people uneducated and compliant.  I don't usually agree that education is being purposely undermined.  BUT, after reading this, how can it be otherwise?  Image how worthless you are as a citizen if you can't even name the first President!

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    I absolutley believe it (5.00 / 1) (#73)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 01:40:04 PM EST
    I think the plan of the republicans for years has been exactly that.  clearly they do not want an educated voting population.  think about it.


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    Looks like its working... (none / 0) (#85)
    by kdog on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 02:25:07 PM EST
    as well as the other nefarious Republican plot to make us all think government can't do anything right...they sure sold me on that one, they musta put that plot into effect first!

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    Yeah all those teacher unions (none / 0) (#104)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 08:15:18 PM EST
    are such rock hard Republicans.

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    Do you understand the life (none / 0) (#106)
    by Cream City on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 11:16:14 PM EST
    of a K-12 social studies teacher these days, the lack of autonomy on what is taught -- because they are so bound by dicta from Republican legislators?

    Really, you need to catch up with the reality for teachers since you -- and I -- were in school . . . and since I got my B.S.Ed. to teach history.  No way in the world would I want to teach at the K-12 level now, when instead of autonomy, they are supposed to be automatons delivering lesson plans designed by others without history majors or education degrees -- or some without even college degrees.  

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    yeah (none / 0) (#107)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Sep 19, 2009 at 09:04:07 AM EST
    The conservatives are so much in charge millions of parents are spending billions of dollars to get their children out of Demo run schools who spend more time on Earth day than they do the 4th of July.

    The subject is more complex than these two points but people aren't voting with their feet and pocketbooks because they want their children to have an education based on the Leftist agenda. And history is certainly a sore subject with millions. In K-12 what little is taught has mostly an anti-American and anti-western culture slant.

    Try this for teaching bias.

    Now, she told the students, come illegally. Forge your documents, find a way across the border. Then, research real ads and find a place to live in Columbus. Figure out what it would cost, how to get food. Plan how to survive.

    <snip>

    "I can't begin to fathom how they can survive here," said Yana Lyon, 17. "Everywhere you turn if you try to become legal or help yourself, there's a roadblock."

    I feel like screaming, "Yes Yana. I will tell you this even if your teacher will not. When you do illegal things there will be roadblocks. Some of them may even be spelled j a i l.

    Link


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    Campaign spending (5.00 / 1) (#52)
    by waldenpond on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 11:30:18 AM EST
    US Court of Appeals.....

    Court Strikes Down Regulations Limiting Nonprofits' Campaign Spending

    Personally, I think involving large organizations (non-profit or profit) in campaigning is going to drown out the individual's voice.  It will concentrate political power into the hands of corporations.

    Anybody else find it hysterical... (5.00 / 1) (#57)
    by kdog on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 11:51:27 AM EST
    that the CIA and DOD can torture and sexually humiliate people, evidence up the wazoo, and not a peep about cutting their funding.  While ACORN workers try to help some phonies posing as sex trade workers get a mortgage and everybody and their momma is talking about cutting their funding.

    Is it me or is something hysterically wrong with that picture?

    Glenn Greenwald (5.00 / 1) (#59)
    by Fabian on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 11:54:56 AM EST
    did a fine post on it yesterday.   He didn't reference the intelligence community, but he made the point that accountability/outrage is not proportional.

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    Shame, shame, shame... (5.00 / 2) (#64)
    by kdog on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 12:29:40 PM EST
    on the US immigration officials trying to keep this widow of a vet out of the country...shame shame shame.

    I'm a lost Jew (5.00 / 2) (#65)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 12:37:33 PM EST
    Is drinking involved?  Or do I have to wallow in decency and focus on enhancing the good person that I can be :)?  I'm ready to start a new year!

    Congress moving to... (5.00 / 1) (#69)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 01:02:56 PM EST
    ...repeal the Federal anti-trust exemption for Health Insurers?

    Could be.

    One criticism (none / 0) (#71)
    by TeresaInSnow2 on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 01:13:00 PM EST
    of the article.  dday makes distinguishment between Wellpoint and BC/BC.  Wellpoint is a BC/BS franchise.  BC/BS franchises own most of the insurance market in the entire US.

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    hilarious (5.00 / 1) (#74)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 01:45:48 PM EST
    I keep expecting to hear (none / 0) (#91)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 02:48:14 PM EST
    "keel moos and squirrell darlink!"

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    Do we get... (none / 0) (#1)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 09:44:29 AM EST
    ...another BTD's classic college football prognostication posts tomorrow?  

    Your MHH special worked so well last week, I need another one this week!

    I am traveling tomorrw so (none / 0) (#2)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 09:46:17 AM EST
    That will go up first thing in the morning.

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    Eggggcellent... (none / 0) (#38)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 10:52:03 AM EST
    Take it easy on poor T's Vols though, will ya?

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    New Iowa Poll (none / 0) (#5)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 10:00:30 AM EST
    on what Grassley should do now...

    Iowans would rather see U.S. Sen. Charles Grassley compromise with Democrats on a health reform bill than drop out of negotiations because he dislikes some of the proposals, a new Iowa Poll shows...

    Iowans' politics affect their opinions on Grassley's role, the poll shows:

    • Among Grassley's fellow Republicans, only 35 percent want him to compromise with Democrats on health reform; 54 percent would rather see him drop out of the negotiations; and 11 percent are unsure.

    • Among Democratic Iowans, 70 percent would rather see him compromise; 22 percent would rather see him drop out; and 8 percent are unsure.

    • Among political independents, 49 percent would rather see him compromise; 43 percent would rather see him drop out; and 7 percent are unsure.

    Link

    Ah, "Midwestern nice" to the max (none / 0) (#17)
    by Cream City on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 10:16:42 AM EST
    at the crossroads of the country.  But that's a slim majority -- 52% overall -- who want Grassley to compromise.  And are they his voters, anyway?  I.e., his wont would be to go with his Republicans who don't want compromise with the Dems?

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    this is good (none / 0) (#8)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 10:07:59 AM EST
    this guy was on Maddow a couple of days ago.  he is a little obnoxious but he says a lot of things that need to be said about the fundie right.

    his comments are cleaned up a bit from the show that I  happened to see.  the transcript does not seem to go up until tomorrow.  but he said thing like "the fundie right is the village idiot of our culture.  we on the right embraced the village idiot but you cant make any progress by basing your plans around the village idiot"  

    or words to that effect.

    More school kids getting strip searched... (none / 0) (#9)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 10:08:36 AM EST
    One of the five girls in the case of an alleged strip-search at Atlantic High School did not have to take off any of her clothing because the faculty believed she was a "good" girl, too honest to have stolen the missing $100, according to a new lawyer.

    Lawyer Matt Winter of Council Bluffs, who represents a sophomore girl who did undergo a search, said a female counselor made four girls peel off clothing items, but excused one.

    This time over $, not pills.

    The merger... (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by kdog on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 10:12:36 AM EST
    of the Dept. of Correction and the Dept. of Education is complete I see...good grief.

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    I am so glad... (none / 0) (#15)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 10:16:27 AM EST
    ...my HS days are behind me.  I probably would have ended-up naked and chained up in the boiler room if they would have pulled this crap back when I was that age.  

    Bad enough I was on double-secret probation most of my time in HS.

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    you and (none / 0) (#18)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 10:19:14 AM EST
    me both.  it would be shock treatments for me.

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    Me too... (none / 0) (#21)
    by kdog on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 10:23:05 AM EST
    had the locker searched a few times...never my knickers.

    I'd be twice as warped as I am now if my formative school years included this kind of disciplinary madness.  

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    How long before... (none / 0) (#28)
    by kdog on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 10:35:16 AM EST
    they whip out the cellphone sniffing dogs?

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    The comments at that link (5.00 / 2) (#31)
    by Cream City on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 10:40:23 AM EST
    are interesting -- there may be more stories with more info, but it looks like this was specifically against Iowa law, but the local DA would not go after the teachers involved, and one of the teachers involved went after these girls because of the teacher's own daughter's say-so at the school, etc.

    All in all, a horror story -- as is so much of high school, but these sorts of stories suggest that the teacher favoritism we all remember unfondly is getting so out of hand.  If anything like this arises in my town, it will be time for me to go march on a school board again.  

    (I was part of a group of mothers that used to do it often to police our schools . . . and my daughter now understands.  But at the time, I well recall her saying how glad she was that we have different last names. :-)  Of course, I let her find solace in that and did not let her know that everyone at a school knows exactly which parent goes with which kid. . . .)

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    Why wouldn't parents sue over (none / 0) (#103)
    by oldpro on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 08:08:36 PM EST
    this nonsense?

    Schools are given too much leeway and too much authority over kids and the law enforcement aspects are the worst examples of power stunts.

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    Outside of his warped political views... (none / 0) (#10)
    by kdog on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 10:09:58 AM EST
    my bro-in-law is the bees knees...just received word he's scored us tickets for Dave Davies in February...I've seen Ray a few times, never Dave.  Woo-Hoo!

    Let's all drink to the Death of a Clown!

    Great! (none / 0) (#76)
    by ruffian on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 01:53:08 PM EST
    Trying to remember if Dave had a radio show in LA a long time ago when I lived there, or if that was an SNL sketch. Anyway, he is funny, and of course there is the music. Should be a cool show.

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    right wing extremism (none / 0) (#22)
    by inzone on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 10:24:26 AM EST
    Whether health care or gun control if you want to get a picture of the nightmare scenario that is coming to America read the internet article "Battle of Jakes" out of Los Angeles. You beter get prepared to deal with what is coming! Seriously scary stuff my brothers and sisters!

    do you have a link (none / 0) (#24)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 10:26:18 AM EST
    or better direction.  I couldnt seem to find it but it sounds right up my alley

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    found it (none / 0) (#33)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 10:42:49 AM EST
    Fast and Furry-ous (none / 0) (#37)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 10:50:02 AM EST
    two days ago was the 60th anniversary of the first Road Runner cartoon

    it debuted September 16, 1949

    Ha Ha... (none / 0) (#70)
    by desertswine on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 01:05:52 PM EST
    Anybody catch Blitzer on Jeopardy yesterday? It was like one of those snl Will Ferrell parodies.

    Interesting... (none / 0) (#72)
    by kdog on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 01:17:57 PM EST
    when the Dems took power, many in the poker community thought they'd have a sympathetic ear after the fall of the phony moralist Republicans, and the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act would be repealed.

    Nolan Dalla says think again, the Dems are not cardplayer-friendly either.  Nanny Dems

    You gotta remember (none / 0) (#105)
    by jimakaPPJ on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 08:18:52 PM EST
    that the Repubs want to control what's happening in your bedroom... the Demnos want to control what you eat and both want to control what you do for entertainment..

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    friday (none / 0) (#83)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 02:20:00 PM EST
    Irving Kristol (none / 0) (#94)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 03:00:25 PM EST
    dubbed the "godfather of neoconservatism" and the actual father of something even worse has died.

    Compare health care reform (none / 0) (#95)
    by Anne on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 03:05:59 PM EST
    proposals:

    Kaiser Family Foundation.

    You can compare as many or as few proposals on as many or few issues and print the results.

    You can also skip all the picking and choosing and just download and print a pdf file with all the choices - 44 pages.

    amazing (none / 0) (#96)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 03:20:36 PM EST
    . . . computer scientists at the University of Washington's Graphics and Imaging Laboratory have been using Microsoft's program Photosynth to compile Flickr images of major landmarks in order to create 3-D digital models.

    Each video includes clusters of small diamond shapes, which represent each photographer and his or her vantage point.

    check the list to the right there are several more

    Dubrovnik is very cool.

    link to the story (none / 0) (#97)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 03:22:41 PM EST
    Sungha Jung (none / 0) (#98)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 04:41:00 PM EST
    (slow day)
    if  you dont know who that is you are missing a lot.

    heres a list

    and some recommendations:

    mad world

    kiss from a rose

    blackbird

    mission impossible theme

    billy jean


    oh (none / 0) (#99)
    by Capt Howdy on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 04:43:31 PM EST
    and

    canon in D

    freakin amazing

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    Dinner with Palin (none / 0) (#101)
    by CoralGables on Fri Sep 18, 2009 at 07:22:38 PM EST
    Only a few minutes left to get your bid in on ebay

    Dinner With Palin