Intelligence has many faces, if it did not we would not have been able to continue as a species.

I agree that triage of this sort is a big deal and they should be talking about it or risk Palin et. al., saying they're going to kill the baby.

Now, if you want to snark and attack me, go ahead. What I have been trying to do is tell you what people are upset about, and offering some advice on how things can be calmed. But I don't mind the attack. It defines you rather than me.

But, if you can put your ego in your pocket for a few minutes, read this. It is from Ezekiel Emanuel who is the Presidents health care adviser.

This civic republican or deliberative democratic conception of the good provides both procedural and substantive insights for developing a just alloca- tion of health care resources. Procedurally, it suggests the need for public forums to deliberate about which health services should be considered basic and should be socially guaranteed. Substantively, it suggests services that promote the continuation of the polity-those that ensure healthy future genera- tions, ensure development of practical reasoning skills, and ensure full and active participation by citizens in public deliberations-are to be socially guaranteed as basic.Conversely, services provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens are not basic and should not be guaranteed. An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia. A less obvious example Is is guaranteeing neuropsychological services to ensure children with learning disabilities can read and learn to reason.

Now the following link will get you to an article that is filled with opinions. It will also give you a link to the source of the quote which is in PDF so you can see the source.

Now, go back and read that. It clearly says that people who don't measure up will not be given health care. He even gives examples. You may say that this was all just philosophical mutterings by academics and you may be right.

But is gasoline on the fires of fear that those passing 50 have. They have a clearer view of "that good night" than I think you do.

Of course the SP plan would have opposition.

But since, as I spec'd, it would be well defined as to what it will and won't do and what it will cost false claims will be much easier to expose.

And yes, the angry people are disruptive.

Democracy is like that. Dictatorships, which you seem to favor, has everyone standing at attention waiting to be told.

BTW - It seems that you don't remember the anti-war demos against the war in Vietnam and again in Iraq..

Why if the great unwashed yelling at the Congress critters someone will claim they are speaking truth to power.