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What Do We Do About the Naked Man?

Since stories about nudity engage the attention of our loyal readers more than (for instance) stories about DOJ misconduct or the FBI's recruitment of informants to spy on mosques (for shame, people!), let's wrap up the week with a "crimes in the news" story about a man who (according to the AP) "was arrested on suspicion of being naked." Upon further review, it turns out that the man was arrested for loitering on school grounds but is nonetheless suspected of being naked on school property.

According to the Douglas County Sheriff's Office, three Whittell High School students reported coming across a naked man behind the school who appeared to be tied to a rock and was lying face down. A student said they asked the man if he was really tied up, which he confirmed. Then they asked if he needed to be untied and the man answered no.

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When the police caught up with man and asked him why he had been naked behind the school, he answered, "There were buzzards flying overhead and I wanted to see what they did." He denied that he was on school property.

The conduct on display here is considerably more disturbing than that of the not-quite-nudists who gardened peacefully on their own property and broke no laws. This man allegedly made a point of displaying himself on school property, and reportedly had been arrested once before for sneaking into the boys' locker room and undressing.

The man's behavior and bizarre responses to the kids and police suggest that he's plagued by an untreated mental illness. As is true of too many Americans who suffer from the twin menaces of poverty and mental illness, he'll probably be dealt with by the criminal justice system when he should be in the health care system.

Some people, fearful of what the man might do in the future, are likely to argue that he should be treated like a "sexual predator" by confining him in a "treatment unit" that is indistinguishable in most respects from a prison. Despite the denials and excuses and justifications advanced by our courts and fearful citizenry, sexual predator laws exist to punish people for what we fear they might do in the future. Whatever marginal gain in public safety we would achieve by confining this man to prevent him from committing a more serious crime is offset by the harm done to core American values, including the presumption of innocence and the belief in "liberty and justice for all" -- including the mentally ill. Preventive detention is not the appropriate response to fear.

If left alone, the man's behavior may or may not escalate. Read the literatute carefully and you'll find that predictions of future behavior are notoriously unreliable. Nonetheless, some people who behave like this will eventually engage in more harmful acts. We need health care and social services systems that can identify, treat, and provide close supervision to people with mental illnesses that lead to concerning behavior. Treating and supervising this man now will do more to protect society than locking him up for a few months because he was laying naked behind the school, and is more consistent with American values than locking him up indefinitely to ease our fear of his future conduct.

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    I can't help it TChris (5.00 / 3) (#6)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 07:05:10 PM EST
    I know more about the fundamentals of what constitutes being naked than I do the fundamentals of what constitutes DOJ misconduct.  But I'll work on it.

    This is an (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by JamesTX on Sat Jun 13, 2009 at 07:44:51 AM EST
    excellent story on the "pedophile madness" issue. I think it is important to say that something needs to be done about this situation. The alleged nakedness incident is something that would probably pass with little concern, because the kids stumbled upon him -- he didn't seek them out. There are all kinds of reasons that people become naked (I do it daily, or at least I should. I smell when I don't.). Some involve negligence with regard to children. Others don't. But it is always hard to blame someone for "being naked" and being discovered by another person, as opposed to actively seeking to expose oneself to another.

    They had a case in Texas about that which set a precedent prior to the pedophile madness movement. There is a place near Austin where people swim called "hippie hollow". It is clothing optional. A woman used a telescope to see naked people from her home some outrageous distance away (it couldn't be seen with the ...naked eye). She sued, and lost, because the ruling was that if you have to employ technology to see something, you are the one seeking visual contact, not the naked person!

    It would be hard to say that he intended to be discovered by the kids without more information about where he was and a tremendous amount of argument to support that motivation.

    Going (how was "sneaking" determined?) into the boys locker room and undressing is a little harder to explain, but a mentally challenged person or someone who for some reason truly didn't understand what the facility was for and that they were not supposed to be there, might could do such a thing innocently.

    The two incidents together certainly sound an alarm, but they don't justify horrendously Draconian response or vigilantism.

    My argument is not that behavior like this should be ignored. There are indecency laws and other things available to place him under supervision and evaluate his behavior. If he is actually seeking to expose himself to children, then something has to be done to stop it. That may or may not involve institutionalizing the guy. There is a too much more we need to know about him. The two acts described here lead me to believe exactly what TChris has said. I sounds like he is mentally challenged, and may just need some counseling involving appropriate forms of sexual expression.

    Imagine what it is like to be in a mental state that doesn't allow for any kind of intimate connection with other human beings, and not knowing or understanding anything about your own sexuality. The guy might just need a forum where he can safely explain his feelings and be taught how to manage those feelings without pissing people off.

    The problem with the current situation is that most people, hearing stories like this, would have no problem locking the guy up for life. There simply is no way to justify that based on what is known. The most important thing that I can see so far is that there is no claim that he has touched anybody, masturbated in front of children, or otherwise done anything "sexual". Nakedness and sexuality are not equivalent. Not at all.

    "Suspicion of being naked"? WTF? (none / 0) (#1)
    by Spamlet on Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 06:24:29 PM EST


    All Americans have a right to be considered (5.00 / 2) (#4)
    by steviez314 on Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 06:52:26 PM EST
    clothed until proven naked.

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    Bad writing by the AP (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by jbindc on Sat Jun 13, 2009 at 09:47:50 AM EST
    According to the story, the witnesses said he was naked, and when the police asked him why he was naked, he answered and didn't disagree with their premise.

    Sounds like he is disturbed and needs help.

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    second the WTF (none / 0) (#2)
    by Jen M on Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 06:30:18 PM EST
    Raise you a "blind cops?"

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    Speculation (none / 0) (#3)
    by Fabian on Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 06:51:37 PM EST
    If we did have real public mental health care, what would be the man's civil rights in this case?

    Does he have the right to decline a psychiatric evaluation?  He apparently posed no immediate threat to anyone, even himself.  Weak grounds for arresting him or (forcibly) sending him to a psychiatric clinic.  

    What if someone wanted to avoid a psychiatric evaluation because they didn't want to be "labeled" in a way that would affect them personally or professionally?  Could they opt to be charged criminally(trespassing) rather than be officially deigned a sexual offender?

    If we actually did provide mental health services in our prisons, could inmates refuse those services even if their behavior was harmful to themselves or others?

    It's hard to know where to start... (none / 0) (#5)
    by Anne on Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 06:59:20 PM EST
    At what point does "suspicion" of being naked become more than suspicion?  Was it only "suspected" because they could not see his front and he could possibly have been wearing half a shirt or half a pair of underwear?

    I am impressed with the buzzard story, except for the fact that buzzards are only interested in carrion, not something or someone who is alive.

    With that out of the way, as much progress as we have made in the area of mental health care and treatment, it seems that it is only less stigmatizing if you are reasonably well off - if you are poor or homeless - or uninsured - you may never get the kind of treatment that might help you be something other than poor and homeless.

    This is not to say that a person with a mental illness cannot represent a danger to others, but it seems like we ought to be handling better those whose mental illness lands them in the criminal justice system - especially those who are not likely to have support of family or the means to access the best legal representation.

    I know it comes down to money and funding, and there's never enough of that, but there really has to be a way for us to do better.

    Dismiss on the basis of (none / 0) (#7)
    by KeysDan on Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 07:24:54 PM EST
    insufficient evidence.

    The man's behavior and bizarre responses to the kids and police suggest that he's plagued by an untreated mental illness. As is true of too many Americans who suffer from the twin menaces of poverty and mental illness, he'll probably be dealt with by the criminal justice system when he should be in the health care system.


    I think the man may (none / 0) (#9)
    by oculus on Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 10:08:29 PM EST
    aspire to being in a Greej myth  

    Buzzards? (none / 0) (#10)
    by Edger on Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 10:11:25 PM EST
    Anyone else see the buzzards? Or ask him what he was smoking?

    I'm guessing he's never seen buzzards up close (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by nycstray on Fri Jun 12, 2009 at 11:09:06 PM EST
    not something I would be laying my naked body out to attract, lol!~

    This did happen in Nev, so it is possible there was a dead thing around and they were circling. I used to see death birds often when I lived in a tumble weed environ. Actually in a hilly environ too. You tend to veer away from those areas if you are out walking. {grin}

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    to be a "sexual predator", don't (none / 0) (#12)
    by cpinva on Sat Jun 13, 2009 at 03:15:35 AM EST
    you actually have to predate someone, or at least make an effort? is merely being "under suspicion of being naked" sufficient cause to label one a "sexual predator" nowadays? god help us all, if they hit the beaches and pools!

    granted, there are those (and you men in the inappropriate speedos know who i'm talking about!) who i'd prefer to see with as many clothes on as humanly possible, but barring that, in the absence of an actual/attempted act, perhaps just "suspicion of incredibly poor judgment" might be sufficient.

    Its been "Freak Week".... (none / 0) (#15)
    by kdog on Sat Jun 13, 2009 at 11:24:56 AM EST
    on TL allright...god lord where do you find these stories?  Interesting to say the least.

    Sure sounds like a screw is loose, but that ain't a crime.  Perhaps the authorities can point him towards a more secluded area not near a school to live out his weirdness.  Doesn't appear he's trying to hurt anybody...but even I'll admit ya can't have naked people hanging around a school, then you're begging to be dealt with...lets just hope not too harshly.

    And sadly, I think we all kind of expect DOJ misconduct and unwarranted government spying to occur, thats s.o.p. in America.  But nudist gardeners and naked loons...that ya don't hear about everyday:)