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The Story of Dominique Green

The Christian Science Monitor today presents a glowing review of Thomas Cahill's new book, A Saint on Death Row." It tells the story of Dominique Green who spent 12 years on death row before his Texecution.

Sister Helen Prejean wrote of the book:

"There are many ways to tell the tragic story of America's death rows. Tom Cahill has chosen to show—through the extraordinary life of one man—that God is always working everywhere and can bring the most beautiful soul to maturity in even the most horrifying circumstances. If you read his story, you will never forget Dominique Green, nor will you ever feel the same way about our courts, our prisons, and our criminal justice system. This book is a life-changer." —Sister Helen Prejean, author of Dead Man Walking

Cahill's website features this video of an interview with Green before his execution and Cahill's views on why the death penalty is wrong for anyone. [More...]

Cahill is a religious scholar, but he covers more than religion in the book. As the Christian Science Monitor review says:

Cahill’s moving tale shines a sharp light on a negligent and flawed justice system, and on a state that uses the death penalty far beyond any other. Texas has executed at least 425 people since the penalty was reinstated in 1976, while the next highest state, Virgina, has executed 102.

Yet Green’s story is also a stand-in for thousands, perhaps millions, of other American youths who get into trouble because they were raised in poor and abusive environments, and whose potential is often snuffed out.

While Green’s innocence was never established, Cahill says the most important question is, “Did he receive a fair trial?” The narrative leaves little doubt that answer is “no.”

The takeaway from the book, says the Monitor:

What stands out most, though, is the incredible price society pays for indifference – indifference to the needs of children, to flagrantly unjust systems, and to youths, often victims of abuse themselves, who are locked up and forgotten.

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    I will get and read this book (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by TeresaInPa on Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 09:22:21 AM EST
    It is exactly the sort of book I love.
    However I have real mixed feelings about the tendency to excuse crime based on bad upbringing.  Plenty of good law abiding people are raised in terrible circumstances.  I tend to think we should just let people be responsible for their behavior and at the same time treat them fairly and humanely.
    IN this country, we have infantalized segments of society and it is at times racist and at times classist.  It is as if we expect less from minorities and poor people.  We hold them to a lower standard.  It is patronizing and insults other people of their ethnicity/income group by comparison when they have managed NOT to be criminals.
    Now this does not mean I have any idea if this guy is innocent or not.  He may have been.  And I am very glad he blossomed in Prison and became the soul he was meant to be.  It is for that reason that I am against the death penalty.  We rob people of their right to grow and redeem thenselves.

    Insofar as you frame it (none / 0) (#2)
    by Bemused on Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 09:37:57 AM EST
     as "excuse" crime, I agree. I don't see the issue as one of "excusing" crime, though. Taking into account  any and all circumstances of a person's life and the the evidence that helps illuminate nature of his character, soul, or whatever you want to call it, in determining--- not whether his crime should be excused but--- how he should be punished for having committed it is to me an essential component of a fair and rational justice system.

      Whether it's sparing soemone from the death penalty, allowing eventual parole consideration, imposing a shorter term, imposing an alternative to imprisonment, in every case courts should consider all things that make that person a unique individual.

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    I can not agree (none / 0) (#3)
    by TeresaInPa on Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 09:49:03 AM EST
    if you committed the crime your punishment should be the same as anyone elses. There are degrees of capital crimes that take circumstances in to account.  But if you are guilty of first degree murder, then your punishment should be the same as anyone elses.
    However I do NOT believe in the death penalty under any circumstances.

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    Could not disagree more (5.00 / 3) (#9)
    by txpublicdefender on Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 11:21:02 AM EST
    Why have a system at all, if everyone gets the same punishment for committing the "same crime?"  A teenager who agrees to participate in a robbery with a group of other teenagers (one of whom ends up shooting and killing someone) because he is trying to feed his younger siblings who have all fled an abusive home does not, in my opinion, deserve the same punishment as someone who intentionally murders someone in cold blood for a $1M life insurance policy.  

    The state system that is supposed to protect children from abuse and neglect completely failed this young man.  Rather than answering for their part in what led him to be involved in this robbery, they just decided to kill him.  Deciding to lock him up forever wouldn't have been a justifiable decision either, IMO.

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    The death penalty (5.00 / 2) (#5)
    by Dadler on Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 10:23:33 AM EST
    The toughest thing about being staunchly anti-DP, is knowing, absolutely knowing, that if someone killed one of my loved ones I would want, worse than anything else, and probably attempt to accomlish, to tear the murderer limb from limb and toss those limbs into a bottomless pit.  Having a child now, having been abused as a kid and taken advantage of by adults, trust me, it is much harder to be anti-DP when you have to face the rage and instinvtive (as natural as breathing) impulse to permanently, on your own, get rid of that killer.  I have felt that for a person who didn't even kill a loved one of mine, but simply beat me and my little brother in a manner that forever changed our brains, bodies and lives.

    That is the greatest problem you face in being anti-DP -- the natural, and eternal, instinct to revenge and remedy.

    yes and for that reason (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by TeresaInPa on Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 11:21:13 AM EST
    I am glad that as someone who was also abused as a child and has felt the urge to murder a loved one's drug dealer.. I am glad that I do not have the responsibility of telling the state what to do should a loved one be murdered.

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    Would that the instinct (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by jondee on Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 01:46:25 PM EST
    to remedy had been explored as deeply as the instinct for revenge.

    The Golden Bough public rituals (like war), have outlived their cathartic usefulness, IMO.

    It's like the old joke about the cannibal father and son: "But son, we cannibals have ALWAYS eaten people.."

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    Capital Punishment Is Premeditated Murder (4.00 / 3) (#6)
    by tokin librul on Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 10:56:35 AM EST
    by the State.

    It might be excused if it were absolutely certain that no innocent person would ever be executed.

    But that can NEVER be guaranteed.

    Ergo, the death penalty cannot be permitted--even though I sometimes think that, if the Rightards are correct and there is a determinable deterrent effect of capital punishment on potential malefactors, we should execute a couple of banksters, like Bernie Madoff, or the former pres of AIG, and that Cassanno thug, just to test the deterrent's efficacy...

    Rightards? (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 11:16:13 AM EST
    Rightards? What a marvelously progressive turn of phrase.

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    Well (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by jondee on Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 01:51:39 PM EST
    Rightvelopmentally disadvantaged is a little clumsy.

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    iokiyalibrul (none / 0) (#29)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 03:02:34 PM EST
    Dont ever say that to an Inuit (5.00 / 1) (#30)
    by jondee on Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 03:49:10 PM EST
    woman unless you want your face slapped.

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    I vowed never to rate comments (none / 0) (#31)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 04:02:30 PM EST
    but I'm tempted to break that vow to give you a 5 for that one!

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    At Your Service (none / 0) (#32)
    by squeaky on Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 04:11:34 PM EST
    Thanks, I remain chaste. (none / 0) (#33)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 05:26:42 PM EST
    I have felt that my only exception (none / 0) (#11)
    by TeresaInPa on Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 11:23:26 AM EST
    to my no DP rule would be for drug dealers. Not the poor schmuck that needs his/her next fix, but the scum who play on people's weakness and destroy lives for their own monetary gain.

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    Drug delears?... (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by kdog on Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 11:49:30 AM EST
    You mean like Coors, Phillip Morris, Maxwell House, and Pfizer?  Or just illegal drug dealers?  And not for nothing, "scum who play on people's weaknesses and destroy lives for monetary gain" kinda describes our entire financial sector...should we strap Jeff Cassano onto a gurney?

    In my drug using experience, the "pusher" is a myth.  People want substance "X", people sell substance "X"...frankly I don't even see a crime, much less a crime punishable by death.

    Not to belittle your situation, if a drug dealer did a loved one of yours wrong I'm truly sorry to hear that....but to generalize every hard-working drug distributor in this country as "scum", much less to allow the DP only for drug dealers is just wrong Theresa...and I think you know that.

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    On one of the save Dominique Green websites, this is part of how his parents were described:
    Both parents were alcoholics and his father was addicted to marijuana.
    Addicted to MJ?!

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    Not the way to score... (none / 0) (#21)
    by kdog on Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 01:12:04 PM EST
    credibility points with me, to be sure:)  

    But I don't doubt the guy had a rough childhood...but I tend to side with Theresa in that, though of course it is a factor (all life experience is a factor), I'm not down the "my parents sucked" or "I was high/drunk" or "I just got laid off" excuses...in the cases of what I like to call "real crime" aka murder, rape, assault and theft anyway.  The "crimes in name only" shouldn't even be crimes, let alone require lame excuses.

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    come on (none / 0) (#18)
    by TeresaInPa on Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 12:44:15 PM EST
    every heroin dealer worth his salt has gone to the home of former customers with free heroin when they get out of rehab.
    Yes, every one of them is scum.  They hurt not only the addict but the whole addicts family/friends and most of them are responsible for many more deaths for nothing but greed, than the single crime of passion murderer.
    About half of addicts will die of an overdose at some point in their life.....whether they ever get treatment or not.
    FYI, you can drink on a daily basis and have one or two drinks and not be an alcoholic.  You can not use any illegal drug on a daily basis for years and not become an addict.
    There is a difference and to compare the two is the worst of liberal messy thinking.

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    I've used an illegal drug... (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by kdog on Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 01:03:40 PM EST
    most everyday for over 15 years...I don't think I'm physically addicted, but I might have a mental addiction or infatuation...who knows/who cares, I'm happy.

    FWIW There are only two drugs I absolutely have to have first thing in the morning, nicotine and caffeine, and both are legal.

    I seriously doubt any, much less every, heroin dealer has to chase down business amongst recent rehabers, plenty of folks out looking for their wares...though I admit I don't have much experience in heroin circles. I'll take your word for it that your loved ones connect was scum, but to call 'em all that is as silly as when I call all cops or bankers scum.

    And to call for the death penalty for drug dealers is just madness...do we really wanna be wrose than the worst?

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    Preying on people's (none / 0) (#26)
    by jondee on Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 01:57:16 PM EST
    weakness probobly decribes a good half of what keeps our wonderful, God-sent system of capitalism rolling along.

    Not to be facile, but I will.

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    No I have not (none / 0) (#16)
    by TeresaInPa on Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 12:34:06 PM EST
    He was a drug dealer... (none / 0) (#17)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 12:36:34 PM EST
    More precisely (5.00 / 2) (#24)
    by jondee on Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 01:53:12 PM EST
    she described the Green of ten years ago.

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    Or should I say the unforgivable (none / 0) (#25)
    by jondee on Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 01:54:10 PM EST
    Green of ten years ago?

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    Yes. Had he made some of the choices (none / 0) (#27)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 02:33:09 PM EST
    20 years ago before his murder conviction that he ended up making subsequently, maybe Burnatte Lestrapes would still have a husband and her children a father.

    That the murder victim's wife and children ultimately forgave Green and even called on the governor to spare his life is the real story here imo.

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    First (none / 0) (#4)
    by Bemused on Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 10:08:53 AM EST
      degrees of crimes (even for those crimes that have them) do not account for all factors surrounding a crime. Very often a single factor out of all the circumstances provides the statutory or common law distinction.

      Second, no two people actually  commit "the same crime" unless they join together in the same specific act. Each crime is a separate event with its own unique circumstances. Just because two different crimes both meet the definition of first degree murder does not mean we should not look at all the circumstances of both. The victims are different, the motives are different, the situation of the defendant is different and on and on.

       Is an elderly, mentally ill woman who has been subjected to years of abuse before snapping and intentionally  killing her abuser with premeditation no different than an abusive man with a history of assaulting his spouse and then  one day decides she no longer deserves to live?

      Both could very well end up convicted of 1st degree murder, should we draw no distinctions ever and give them identical punishment?

     

    oh, patronization doesn't work with me (2.00 / 1) (#8)
    by TeresaInPa on Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 11:19:03 AM EST
    the idea that there are different degrees of a crime is the thing that was created to take in to account differing circumstances.  If there are cases where the circumstances are not taken sufficiently in to account, then fix that problem.  Do not infantalize an old women, or a young black man, or a young abused woman or anyone else.
    The rest of your post about no two crimes being the same is gobblydegook and besides the point.


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    and neither does reason or compassion (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by Bemused on Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 11:37:36 AM EST
     but so it goes.

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    poof (none / 0) (#19)
    by TeresaInPa on Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 12:50:15 PM EST

    So I am not reasonable or compassionate because I think people should not be patronized and infantalized due to an excess of liberal white guilt?

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    I don't know (none / 0) (#28)
    by Bemused on Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 02:44:26 PM EST
     why you have difficulty being reasonable or showing compassion to a person who has violated the law regardless of the circumstances. Why you think others who suggest you should consider doing so  must be motivated by "liberal white guilt" is another thng I can't explain and will not attempt.

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    what ifs (none / 0) (#34)
    by diogenes on Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 10:24:13 PM EST
    Would Dominique Green have become a saint if he had never been caught for a crime or had received a two year sentence?  Or was it being on death row that distilled his soul assuming that he really did become a saint.

    you missed the point (none / 0) (#36)
    by diogenes on Wed Apr 08, 2009 at 10:22:06 PM EST
    My point was that NOT being incarcerated or being incarcerated for short periods usually does not change criminals' souls for the better.  

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    How sad (none / 0) (#38)
    by catmandu on Fri Apr 10, 2009 at 07:09:33 AM EST
    That young man and his friends destroyed so many lives in that crime spree. I really feel most sorry for the the family of his victim who was just waiting to pick some friend up for work.
    He had been in trouble before, perhaps if the other gun charges had been taken seriously, he would have turned his life around and two lives would have been spared.

    UNFAIR (none / 0) (#39)
    by Lorraine11139 on Sun May 31, 2009 at 01:00:08 AM EST
    Not only did Dominique not get a fair trial he didnt even get a chance at justice. No matter what a persons upbringing is that isnt what matters what matters is wether he commited this crime or not! And in my opinion HE DID NOT! Yes he was involved but by no means did he murder this person. Shouldn't punishment fit the crime? This did not he should have been held accountable for his role in this crime just like ALL the parties should have but they werent! This is such a waste of a young man. Why were all of his appeals denied? Why was he NEVER given a chance at justice? The justice system is a failure! There are repeat sex offenders let out of jail to reoffend and do every day, probably cause they aren't poor and black, and no one does anything about them but because this man was black Texas had to prove there very rasicst point. he obviously learned from his mistakes and would have not been a danger to anyone. I am appaled there is such corruption in our "justice system". With all these supporters Dominique had how could no one get anyone to stop and listen. I picked up Thomas Cahill's book about Dominique at my local book store and was so digusted by how poorly and obvious the justice system failed him and everyone else in society. The victims wife even realized that justice wasnt served.