Lieberman should NOT have any standing with the Democratic Party. Neither should Specter. If they want tocall themselves Democrats fine, but don;t be rewarding them at the expense of actual democrats - that's just creepy.

The republicans, under their current radical configuration did the right thing forcing out Specter, not putting up with his smarmy lying triangulating stand for nothingness except himself brand of self-promotion.

But if one thinks about Joe Lieberman, Stevens, and now Specter its no wonder a bitter thought permeates the background in what we could call a self centered egotistical collection of stereo typed political hypocrites. All three of these types very much are cultural disappointments rather than grandstanded as great Americans. Obama and Biden should not have placed themselves in this collection and it does not look good. It is the same pitiful plan like saving the banks; they should have just let Specter go belly up to see where the chips may fall.

What we all realize now is these political types never have had the electorate goodwill in mind. Just the desire to save their own ass. Whats really funny is that union type things Specter wants like seniority bridged across party lines. I don't know what his voting record is, but if Specter votes against union stuff the common union worker will get a dose of reality that Obama just showed us all that these politicals cling to each other adds to that bitterness Obama once talked about.