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Thank Goodness Tatiana didn't make the final 13 on American Idol. I wouldn't have watched the rest of the season. Listening to her shrieking is like the sound of fingernails on a chalkboard. For once, the outcome was suspenseful.

My other thought for the day: On small items, buy retail and buy local. Otherwise your favorite mom and pop and other non-conglomerate stores are going to disappear.

What's on your minds? This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    Sadly, our local mom and pops already have. (5.00 / 2) (#1)
    by hitchhiker on Thu Mar 05, 2009 at 09:18:45 PM EST
    A month ago the grocery store that has been in this neighborhood for 15 years closed its doors.  We're now forced to drive to the local Safeway.

    Tomorrow is the going out of business sale for the drugstore that used to be next door . . . just another trip to take in the car.

    I'm old enough to mourn these losses, which seems strange as I write it, but it's true.  We came here with toddlers, and I depended on these mom and pop stores to be there when I needed them  Now the girls are in college and I'm driving past empty buildings.  It feels like the sad part of a novel.

    You don't live in Chestnut Hill. . . (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by LarryInNYC on Thu Mar 05, 2009 at 09:29:58 PM EST
    Philadelphia, do you?  I'm visiting there tonight, and both the local grocery and pharmacy have closed down recently (although the grocery apparently will re-open as a branch of a nearby food coop).

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    Reese closed? (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by andgarden on Thu Mar 05, 2009 at 10:00:20 PM EST
    Very sad. That's the place I always went when I was growing up. Nate, the pharmacist I liked, left some time ago.

    Caruso's was always overpriced, and the quality went south after they fired their long-time manager a few years ago.

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    Other side of the USA (none / 0) (#13)
    by hitchhiker on Thu Mar 05, 2009 at 10:52:25 PM EST
    I live in Bellevue, WA, which is in between Boeing (south of us in Renton) and Microsoft (north of us on Redmond).  They both laid off workers recently.

    I'm sorry to hear it goes all the way to you.

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    I've lived in Bellevue for (none / 0) (#45)
    by Inspector Gadget on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 07:54:36 AM EST
    nearly 25 years with only one short break out. I'm trying to think of where there was a mom & pop grocery. What section of town?

    That it survived this long is incredible! Most of those disappeared some 10+ years ago. I can sure see why you find it distressing...those days when we knew the names of the people who we did business with were so enjoyable.


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    Newport Hills (none / 0) (#64)
    by hitchhiker on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 10:01:50 AM EST
    Yikes, what a mess we're in.

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    Right across I-90 from you (none / 0) (#69)
    by Inspector Gadget on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 12:47:17 PM EST
    I did not realize there was still a mom and pop over there. I have friends in Medina who are really feeling this, too. Some sold their homes and moved to upscale condos before the big plunge and now they're in deeper trouble than they would have been if they had stayed in their houses.


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    neighbors! (none / 0) (#70)
    by hitchhiker on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 06:08:42 PM EST
    Well, at least in my neighborhood, there haven't been a lot of homes lost.

    Yet.

    Most of the houses are late 60's vintage, and most of the families in them have been there for quite a while . . . but I worry about young people who bought in the new construction all around.  You just know they're carrying huge mortgages.

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    We can't afford to shop anywhere but Walmart (none / 0) (#37)
    by BrassTacks on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 02:08:38 AM EST
    We're just thankful that we have two, within an hour of our house.

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    I don't think we can afford.... (5.00 / 1) (#55)
    by kdog on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 08:43:31 AM EST
    to shop at Walmart either if you know what I mean...the old rock and a hard place.

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    I know they're a "local"... (none / 0) (#38)
    by EL seattle on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 02:48:34 AM EST
    ... company, but it bugs me that Amazon.com is getting into the grocery business.  That won't help the smaller independent stores, I think.

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    I won't be buying from them, (none / 0) (#46)
    by Inspector Gadget on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 07:56:18 AM EST
    will you?

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    I didn't buy anything from... (none / 0) (#58)
    by EL seattle on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 09:08:54 AM EST
    ... Kozmo.com, either.

    If they're able to find a few items that grocery stores count on as reliable profit sources, I'm afraid that an outfit like Amazon will be able to appeal to the basic "bargain-hunting" instinct of consumers who love to save a few pennies even if it means a higher local unemployment rate and a further loss of their community's identitiy.

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    Maybe the primary good that will (none / 0) (#61)
    by Inspector Gadget on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 09:31:40 AM EST
    come of this economic mess is that people will become far more involved in the economics of their entire community rather than just soak up all they can in their own private world.


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    If nothing else, American Idol and (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by Anne on Thu Mar 05, 2009 at 10:40:39 PM EST
    the like are a great escape from the trials and tribulations of the day, but my real Thursday night must-see is Ugly Betty: it's camp and funny and over-the-top and larger-than-life, with just enough real emotion and insight peeking through to make it real.  Tonight's take-off on Throwdown with Bobby Flay was a gem.

    And in its final season, ER is really good; can't wait for the George Clooney/Julianna Margulies appearance...

    When will that be? (none / 0) (#15)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 05, 2009 at 10:54:44 PM EST
    March 12th - next Thursday (5.00 / 1) (#43)
    by Anne on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 06:58:28 AM EST
    Here's a link.

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    Holy smokes (none / 0) (#18)
    by hitchhiker on Thu Mar 05, 2009 at 10:58:25 PM EST
    final season of ER?

    I can't believe it's still on.

    I was a big fan in the early years . . . then in the spring of '01 my husband had a catastrophic injury and I got to deal with a real trauma center for 3 straight months.

    One night I was slogging past the nurse's lounge, exhausted and bereft, and happened to look up and see that the tube was tuned to ER . . . couldn't believe it.

    Couldn't believe I ever thought that hospitals were a source of entertainment!  But I did, and so did the nurses on that floor.

    I've mellowed a lot since then . . .. but I don't think I'll ever watch ER and see it as mere drama.  The real thing is just so much harder.

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    I did not know this (none / 0) (#20)
    by Steve M on Thu Mar 05, 2009 at 11:04:32 PM EST
    but apparently Ugly Betty is adapted from a Colombian soap opera.

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    Anyone see this, about Obama's (5.00 / 4) (#14)
    by Anne on Thu Mar 05, 2009 at 10:53:43 PM EST
    dependence on the teleprompter?

    Just how much of a crutch the teleprompter has become for Obama was on sharp display during his latest commerce secretary announcement. The president spoke from a teleprompter in the ornate Indian Treaty Room for a few minutes. Then Gov. Gary Locke stepped to the podium and pulled out a piece of paper for reference.

    The president's teleprompter also elicited some uncomfortable laughter after he announced Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius as his choice for Health and Human Services secretary. "Kathy," Obama said, turning the podium over to Sebelius, who waited at the microphone for an awkward few seconds while the teleprompters were lowered to the floor and the television cameras rolled.

    Obama has relied on a teleprompter through even the shortest announcements and when repeating the same lines on his economic stimulus plan that he's been saying for months -- whereas past presidents have mostly worked off of notes on the podium except during major speeches, such as the State of the Union.

    [snip]

    "He uses them to death," a television crewmember who also covered the White House under Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush said of the teleprompter. "The problem is, he never looks at you. He's looking left, right, left, right -- not at the camera. It's almost like he's not making eye contact with the American people."

    Wednesday's event posed another scenario photographers and television crews have to work around. Obama had five others join him at the announcement, including Sen. John McCain. The takeaway shot was of Obama and McCain. But the teleprompter on Obama's left was almost directly in front of McCain.

    "You couldn't get a good angle on him with McCain," said a White House photographer who also covered Bush. "So if there's someone else important in the frame, it's hard to get a shot without the teleprompter."

    Guess we're not the only ones who've noticed that Obama and the TelePrompter are joined at the hip.

    What I don't get is how he can be so lacking in the ability to express himself that he has to take a script with him wherever he goes, even to just introduce someone.


    This was interesting... (5.00 / 2) (#19)
    by vml68 on Thu Mar 05, 2009 at 11:01:01 PM EST
    In a break from his routine, Obama did not use a teleprompter during his pre-Inauguration speech at a factory in Bedford Heights, Ohio -- and his delivery seemed to suffer. He paused too long at parts. He accentuated the wrong words. And overall he sounded hesitant and halting as he spoke from the prepared remarks on the podium.
    Someone who is considered such a great orator should not be having so much trouble.

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    I think his rhythmn is always either (5.00 / 3) (#48)
    by Inspector Gadget on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 08:01:19 AM EST
    a bit "sing song" or preacher-like with the teleprompter. That left-right-left-right motion is really irritating...gives one that "can't look me in the eye" feeling.

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    Evidentially It doesn't Matter (none / 0) (#22)
    by squeaky on Thu Mar 05, 2009 at 11:09:40 PM EST
    76 percent of those surveyed in an NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll think the economy will get worse. But the poll still shows President Obama with 60 percent approval and 67 percent favorability ratings.

    village voice

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    That explains the constant head flipping (5.00 / 2) (#23)
    by BrassTacks on Thu Mar 05, 2009 at 11:15:40 PM EST
    I find it very distracting.  He never looks straight ahead but constantly flips his head back and forth while looking up above the audience.  I can't watch him, the head flipping thing distracts me too much, so I just listen to his speeches.  

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    I find it fascinating (5.00 / 1) (#31)
    by dualdiagnosis on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 12:21:10 AM EST
    that the MSM has waited this long to make any kind of a deal out of this. He has been doing this for just about 2 years now.

    The Right pointed this out in Feb of 2008.

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    You beat me to it Anne.... (none / 0) (#16)
    by vml68 on Thu Mar 05, 2009 at 10:56:28 PM EST
    I was just about to link it.

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    I disagree (none / 0) (#41)
    by Mikeb302000 on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 03:26:21 AM EST
    I don't find this at all an indication that he is "lacking in the ability to express himself."

    Rather, I see it as exemplary preparation for every encounter with the media, knowing full well any slip-up will be blown out of all proportion.

    Some of Bush's major flubs were probably from misreading the teleprompter or the written sheets he used to use.  Other blunders might have been avoided had he better prepared.

    I don't think these reports of Obama relying too heavily on teleprompters take anything away from his amazing speaking skills and charisma.

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    I would think (5.00 / 2) (#51)
    by vml68 on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 08:11:16 AM EST
    exemplary preparation = not needing a teleprompter. Don't use Bush as a comparison use Bill Clinton. I believe even I have amazing speaking skills if you are going to use Bush as a benchmark!

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    You could say (none / 0) (#47)
    by jbindc on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 07:56:40 AM EST
    That if he truly believed in the stuff he was saying,and was comfortable with the subject, he might not be so dependent on a teleprompter.  I mean, you need help for an introduction?

    And that reporter's comment about not looking anyone in the eye is dead-on.

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    Yawn... (5.00 / 1) (#65)
    by daring grace on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 10:29:59 AM EST
    I'm always so amazed to see these kinds of things cropping up as criticisms of the president.

    There are so many substantive things to critique and complain about with Obama, comments about his use (or overdependence) on teleprompters just seem extra silly.

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    Anyone else worried about the depression? (5.00 / 3) (#24)
    by BrassTacks on Thu Mar 05, 2009 at 11:25:12 PM EST
    We've now lost all of our retirement funds, all our 401K funds, the IRA investments.  My well over 60 husband now plans to work forever.  Our two adult sons, both with degrees, don't have jobs, but hope to find something at a grocery store or the mall, if they can't get on with the government soon.  

    One top of that, we have 4 or 5 friends who are economists (all but one a democrat) and every single one of them thinks we are heading into a depression. Two months ago, none of them thought that.  They believe that the market will be under 3,000 within two weeks.  They are very serious.  

    Are you intending to work forever?  Is your job a secure, government, job?  Has the market crash wiped out all your retirement funds?  

    Biggest question, will the President ever deal with the problem of most Americans having lost their savings and retirements?  Why isn't he saying anything about the financial crisis?  What's he going to do about it?  

    Thanks all.  We're all feeling pretty depressed right now.  My husband has worked hard and saved for 50 years, invested very conservatively in solid retirement funds, and now it's all gone.  His goal of retiring, and a little travel, is gone.  Can anyone give us some hope that our government/President will do something for the market?  Something to stem the losses?  More government spending, more handouts to everyone but us,  everyday, doesn't seem to be helping.  

    Sorry to sound bitter, but we're scared.  


    Everybody's worried (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by Jeralyn on Thu Mar 05, 2009 at 11:40:50 PM EST
    But many of us don't understand it and realize we have zero ability to change it.

    We'll all be working longer, if not forever.

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    Isn't it making you sad? (5.00 / 1) (#35)
    by BrassTacks on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 02:03:11 AM EST
    All the plans we had for the last 10to20 years of our life have been totally scrapped.  We've planned this our whole lives, all for nothing.  We just very, very, sad.  Our kids too.  They don't have jobs, so they can't help us.  Oh well.  No one ever said life was easy, even when you're old.

    I think it can be changed, but it would take real leadership in Washington.  Haven't seen anyone like that, in that city, for a very long time.  

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    Why zero ability to change it? (5.00 / 1) (#62)
    by Inspector Gadget on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 09:40:11 AM EST
    I'm beginning to think that a civilian task force looking for possible solutions outside the gov't activity is our best hope for resolution.

    The gov't and the media are counting on the population to believe we have no say in how this is handled.

    When the government fears the people, there is liberty.  When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.
    Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)


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    I'm very worried (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by Spamlet on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 01:29:29 AM EST
    What's more, I'm mad. It has taken me this long, but I'm finally mad as hell. And if even I'm mad, then there must be a populist rage sweeping the land.

    Meanwhile, Krugman calls Obama out in Friday's Times for "dithering" on the question of the banks. Everybody knows that Obama was Wall Street's candidate. Ironically, the collapse of Lehman Brothers got Obama elected, but he and his backers are still trying to use the playbook they put together more than four years ago when they started planning his run for the presidency.

    In so-called ordinary times, that playbook would have hurt us. Today it's killing us.

    Cynical? Yeah, I guess. If you're not, pardon me for offending your delicate sensibilities.

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    4 years ago Obama and his friends planned (5.00 / 1) (#36)
    by BrassTacks on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 02:05:35 AM EST
    to wipe out the stock market?  It would have nice of them to have told us.

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    Not what I said (none / 0) (#40)
    by Spamlet on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 03:08:46 AM EST
    Four years ago, they were planning on business as usual, Republican-lite style (i.e., with a DINO face).

    In "ordinary" times, Obama would have spent the past six weeks talking up a Social Security privatization scheme, though he would have been canny enough not to use those words.

    But he and his crew got handed (by their Wall Street friends) a mess they never bargained for, and now, as Krugman says, they're "dithering" because they don't dare (and/or don't care) to abandon their free-market ideology.

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    Dithering? While Rome burns? (none / 0) (#71)
    by BrassTacks on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 11:13:27 PM EST
    Obama's trying to do too many things at once.  He needs to focus on the economy and put everything else on the back burner.  When the economy, the market, and unemployment is doing better, THEN he can focus on all the other stuff.  People want cheaper health care, but they want a JOB even more.  Solve that problem first.  

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    What do they say in AA? (5.00 / 1) (#56)
    by kdog on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 08:53:04 AM EST
    "Worry about the things you can control" or something like that?  

    I hear ya, it is hard not to worry, but as long as the sun rises tomorrow me and mine are gonna live sister...one way or the other.  So will you and yours...one way or the other.  Ya gotta believe...

    Help and hope from above would be great...but don't count on it.  We've got to help ourselves and help each other...forget Washington, the sh*t is broken if it wasn't always broken.  

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    Serenity to Accept the Things You Can't Change (none / 0) (#66)
    by daring grace on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 10:36:16 AM EST
    Was it Frank Costanza on Seinfeld who used to bellow (as an exercise in self-pacification): Serenity NOW!

    For a simple little ditty that is easy to kind of write off as some self help group's throwaway line, I find that Serenity prayer really useful to remind myself of almost daily:

    Serenity to accept the things you can't change.

    Courage to change the things you can.

    Wisdom to know the difference.

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    That's the one... (none / 0) (#67)
    by kdog on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 11:00:40 AM EST
    Thanks grace...words to live by, to be sure.

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    Saw a "Gold and Gems" store closing (none / 0) (#3)
    by Cream City on Thu Mar 05, 2009 at 09:34:50 PM EST
    next door to our fave sushi restaurant tonight.  (We always buy our sushi locally.:-)

    I thought gold was economic-crisis-proof.  So what does it mean when a store that specializes in buying gold and gems goes out of business?

    Local sushi? (5.00 / 2) (#4)
    by LarryInNYC on Thu Mar 05, 2009 at 09:40:50 PM EST
    What's that?  The walleye roll?

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    Ha. Alewives and avocado sushi? (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by Cream City on Thu Mar 05, 2009 at 10:00:20 PM EST
    Nah, I meant I can't stand that store stuff that sits for hours.  Nothing but freshly, "locally" made for me -- if by a Hong Kong-trained, international award-winning sushi chef now practicing his craft in a suburban strip mall.  But better than anything I've had in many a fancy place in our largest cities, coast to coast, at least in this country.  Someday, I'll get to do sushi in Japan, mmmmmmmm.

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    We have a rare thing (none / 0) (#42)
    by Fabian on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 03:38:07 AM EST
    here in town.  There's one Japanese restaurant that we've gone to forever.  They have a grocery store that has self serve coolers holding fresh made sushi and various dishes, sides and meals.  It's a great way to indulge without using too much time or money.  Grab it and go!

    Nothing at all like the stuff made hours in advance that's stiff and cold.

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    Would you mind sharing the name (none / 0) (#44)
    by vml68 on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 07:50:19 AM EST
    of the restaurant?

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    Akai Hana aka Reaturant Japan (none / 0) (#54)
    by Fabian on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 08:25:59 AM EST
    Tensuke Market is the grocery.  Sushi et al is put out at 11 am through 6 pm.

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    Thanks.... (5.00 / 1) (#68)
    by vml68 on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 11:07:19 AM EST
    will check it out the next time I am in town.

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    I wonder if the Gold-and-Gems places... (none / 0) (#32)
    by EL seattle on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 12:32:33 AM EST
    ... are suffering from the same pressures as other brick-and-mortar places are, having to compete with internet companies.  I'd be really hesitant to purchase of sell gold via mail order (or internet order) but a lot of folks might, and if 5-10% of a store's customers vanish, the store might have to vanish too, I guess.

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    Gold buyers are busy (none / 0) (#49)
    by Inspector Gadget on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 08:04:17 AM EST
    trying to get their hands on as much gold jewelry as they can, but I'm sure people aren't buying much of it.

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    Pawn Shops... (none / 0) (#57)
    by kdog on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 08:55:59 AM EST
    are doing good business here in NY.  Link

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    About the Wild Card Round, (none / 0) (#8)
    by Mshepnj on Thu Mar 05, 2009 at 10:09:05 PM EST
    Thank Goodness Tatiana didn't make the final 13 on American Idol. I wouldn't have watched the rest of the season. Listening to her shrieking is like the sound of fingernails on a chalkboard. For once, the outcome was suspenseful.

    She shouldn't have made the top 36. She has a voice but apparently can only sing one song, and I swear must suffer from Narcissistic Personality Disorder, or Histrionic Personality Disorder  - and they should have seen that. It was bad TV, exploitative and very, very irritating. Did you notice that she adopted her Puerto Rican accent after Jorge got a good response for his nature accent? There's not a shred of genuineness to Tatiana.

    As for suspense?  A Top 13 was predicted on a couple of the boards yesterday, as were three of the 4 put through: Anoop, Megan and Jasmine. No that those three were the best of the night (I love Jesse Langseth)  but if you watch the way they edit the ones they want it isn't hard to figure out. I'm glad Matt got through too at least. I'm pretty much underwhelmed this season at this point.

    I'm sure they did see that (none / 0) (#11)
    by Spamlet on Thu Mar 05, 2009 at 10:39:55 PM EST
    I swear [Tatiana] must suffer from Narcissistic Personality Disorder, or Histrionic Personality Disorder  - and they should have seen that.

    It's probably the only reason she got this far. Every reality show casts at least one contestant you love to hate, and that was her role for this phase. Replacement on the way.

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    Jeralyn (none / 0) (#9)
    by CoralGables on Thu Mar 05, 2009 at 10:11:37 PM EST
    you have me quite confused as to whether you are a closet American Idol star or dream of being the next Bachelorette.

    Tatiana's singing didn't bother me. It was all the rest of the drama queen antics that would have continued to make me cringe if they didn't give her the boot. And the dropping to her knees in front of Ryan almost bordered on R rated television.

    Neither (none / 0) (#21)
    by Jeralyn on Thu Mar 05, 2009 at 11:06:30 PM EST
    you have me quite confused as to whether you are a closet American Idol star or dream of being the next Bachelorette.

    Neither, I just like both shows (and a bunch of others)...now had you asked me what I would have given to be able to have Bon Jovi join me onstage to sing one of his songs, that's a different story.  By the way, here's the video of him doing that with a fan on Jimmy Fallon the other night.

    I could excuse it by saying I read all day (when I'm not in court arguing to keep someone out of jail or visiting people in jail, etc) -- what's wrong with watching escapist tv at night? But, it may also be that I'm just shallow.

    In my defense, I did turn off Survivor after 10 minutes tonight. <smile>

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    Ha Ha (none / 0) (#30)
    by CoralGables on Thu Mar 05, 2009 at 11:56:04 PM EST
    it was the Bon Jovi comment from the other night that made me have to throw that out there. I'm not sure I have missed an Idol show since the first season so I'm not one to question anyone's television watching :)

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    Doesn't sound like TV is a (none / 0) (#10)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 05, 2009 at 10:18:46 PM EST
    don't miss.   Although I understand from reading NYT the first dramatized Robert Parker novel topped the ratings.  Sorry I missed it.

    What is the significance, if any, (none / 0) (#17)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 05, 2009 at 10:56:35 PM EST
    of the private mtg. between Brad Pitt and President Obama?

    Perhaps another party tonight at the WH? (none / 0) (#25)
    by BrassTacks on Thu Mar 05, 2009 at 11:26:08 PM EST
    That's my best guess.  

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    OK, I looked. Per Sam Stein (none / 0) (#26)
    by oculus on Thu Mar 05, 2009 at 11:32:34 PM EST
    (Huff Post), Pitt met with Obama, Browner, Reid, and Pelosi on the subject of his charitable foundation's work building residential housing in New Orleans.

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    All the first reports yesterday were that (none / 0) (#50)
    by Inspector Gadget on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 08:07:09 AM EST
    Pitt was scheduled to meet only with Pelosi. Guess there are star gazers all through the WH.

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    Did you see her gushing about having (none / 0) (#52)
    by vml68 on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 08:12:47 AM EST
    bragging rights now that she has met Pitt?

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    I think he is just taking advantage (none / 0) (#60)
    by Amiss on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 09:19:41 AM EST
    of a time he would be in DC anyway. Angelina is making a movie that is being filmed there, Brad wanted to have a discussion about NOLA so he arranged a meet with Obama or something like that.

    It was reported on the news that Angelina was making a movie in DC and that Brad's meeting was about NOLA.

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    Yes (none / 0) (#63)
    by jbindc on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 09:48:10 AM EST
    She was filming right outside the building where I work (but I didn't know it until it was too late).  A secretary here sent me pictures she shot when she went outside.  (The name of the movie is "SALT")

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    Market poll (none / 0) (#27)
    by BrassTacks on Thu Mar 05, 2009 at 11:34:40 PM EST
    You can participate in a poll here on how low the market will go.  

    anyone else but me (none / 0) (#28)
    by cpinva on Thu Mar 05, 2009 at 11:36:22 PM EST
    worried that ken starr's argument, that a minority may, by amendment, curb or eliminate the rights of minorities, may well prevail, in the CA supreme court?

    that's a lot scarier than who wins american idol, trust me. it's even scarier than the economy. his position goes far beyond prop. 8, and only he would, with straight face, argue it.

    james madison and george mason must be twirling in their graves!

    Does anyone know... (none / 0) (#33)
    by EL seattle on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 01:21:56 AM EST
    ... if there are good websites that are tracking how the unions are doing these days?  Are a lot of companies declaring bankruptcy and then re-emerging without union "baggage"?  Are a lot of the industries that are being hit hardest by the economic crisis industries that have a lot of union employees?  

    When I hear about newspapers going under, I keep thinking about all the press crew, drivers, mechanics, and staff that it takes to keep an oeration like that going.  A lot of union jobs might be just vanishing, but are the jobs that will be created in the future be union jobs at the same sort of percentage?  

    I'd think that there's some (hopefully objective) place that's tracking this issue... does anyone have a recommendation?

    are you looking for union run, or union pac sites (none / 0) (#53)
    by DFLer on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 08:18:50 AM EST
    or third party?

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    If the data is reasonably... (none / 0) (#59)
    by EL seattle on Fri Mar 06, 2009 at 09:17:28 AM EST
    ... objective, (or can at least be sorted through), it doesn't matter to me.  During tough times, a lot of organizations that are really hurting seem to put on a good face and act like there's no trouble at all (until it's too late), so I'd imagine that a third party site might have a more realistic appraisal of the challenges that unions are facing in this crisis.

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