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Update (TL): If you missed Jon Stewart and Jim Cramer, you can watch the full unedited videos at HuffPo here.

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    On John Stewart: Bull$i773r? (5.00 / 4) (#2)
    by Faust on Sat Mar 14, 2009 at 11:23:14 AM EST
    John Stewart is an interesting fellow. On the one hand he is one of the few well positioned media voices that offers  a critique of the media. His appearance on crossfire remains famous, and now he has many years later, offered us yet another media smack down. In between he pokes gently at the media absurdities; it's not hard to do with video montages demonstrating their insipid "analysis" of the issues.

    However. Despite his protestations that he offers "merely" a comedy show, and that he is a "clearly labeled snake oil salesman," I do wonder at what point people enter into a position of responsibility with regard to the truth of things. John Stewart has many people on his show. For example Brian Williams gets on there repeatedly. And yet I doubt Brian Williams will EVER get the kind of treatment Kramer got, even though he most definitely should. Stewart here is taking advantage of a cultural mood that gives him room to roast someone. And yet it is quite clear that MANY of his guests could be critiqued in a similar fashion. Why does he not do this?

    The argument offered is that he merely runs a comedy show and therefore is not under any obligation to offer substantive interviews. If he chooses to he can, but he is under no requirement moral or otherwise to be a journalist. He's a comedian. One sees a similar defense from others. Limbaugh is merely an "entertainer" and therefore should get a pass to do whatever he might like. Kramer even offers a lame version of this defense for cable: "we have to fill 17 hours of live air." Bloggers do this to: "I'm just a blogger, I don't have to meet the same standards as journalists." And so on. It's the "I have not claimed any high ground and therefore have no obligation to meet a consistent standard."

    I don't want to paint with too broad a brush here. But there is something very strange about the way people proceed here. Does labeling oneself as an entertainer, a comedian, a "private" commentator (blogs), really absolve the speaker from all principles? I suppose it must if one consistently says: "I am a bull$i77er the truth is neither my friend nor my enemy, my principle goal is entertainment and market share." Is John Stewart not culpable when he occupies the same position Kramer on those occasion where he, knowing full well that many of the guests sitting across from him are full of $hi7 do nothing but give them the reach around (as he would say)? Or does he, like Limbaugh, get a pass because he is "just an entertainer?"


    Has anyone else noticed the (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by kenosharick on Sat Mar 14, 2009 at 01:04:02 PM EST
    right-wing going even more nuts than usual lately? oreilly was going on and on about a new "vast left- wing conspiracy" that was destroying people. When in reality it was a few liberals on a conference call every morning looking for ways to help the new president. oreilly went on about how "un-American" this was and "this is not how things are done in a democracy." People joining together to support a cause is un-American to the right-wing now. Karl rove joined in calling these conference calls "facist." I think these people are have a collective nervous breakdown.

    Test for the Obama administration? (none / 0) (#1)
    by Manuel on Sat Mar 14, 2009 at 11:17:18 AM EST
    Russia wants air bases in the Caribbean.  I wonder what is behind that policy.  Is this just Russian military industrial complex stimulus spending?

    Another guess... (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by santarita on Sat Mar 14, 2009 at 12:07:23 PM EST
    payback for our threat to put up a missile defense shield in former Soviet Union countries.

    It's not a gesture of international friendship.

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    So we are back to MAD? (none / 0) (#7)
    by Manuel on Sat Mar 14, 2009 at 01:26:35 PM EST
    Putting bombers in Cuba and Venezuela doesn't strike me as the most effective way to get the West to back down on the former Soviet Republics.

    This may also be a way to counteract the noise we are hearing from the Obama administration about a possible thaw in Cuba relations.  There are vested interests everywhere that would like to deral that.

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    I Hope Not... (none / 0) (#9)
    by santarita on Sat Mar 14, 2009 at 01:30:05 PM EST
    this may be one of those "tests" that Biden talked about.  Or it may be just a hangover from the days of Bellicose Bush.

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    Protect Venezuela and other Latin ... (none / 0) (#3)
    by santarita on Sat Mar 14, 2009 at 11:43:52 AM EST
    American countries from guess who?

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    Renee Fleming is singing the (none / 0) (#5)
    by oculus on Sat Mar 14, 2009 at 12:30:29 PM EST
    most beautiful aria of "Rusalka" by Dvorak.  KUSC-FM.  Live broadcast from the Met.  Fabulous.

    I'm a Fan... (none / 0) (#8)
    by santarita on Sat Mar 14, 2009 at 01:27:39 PM EST
    Several years ago I saw her at the SFO with Placido Domingo in Heriodade.  She was marvelous, of course.  And when she took a bow afterwards, someone tossed a bunch of roses but slightly over her head.  With the instinct of a good frisbee player, she leapt up and grabbed the flowers.  

    I read her autobiography.  She had a lot to say about voice control and the mechanics of singing at that level but also about the business end.  She's quite generous and not at all the stereotypical diva.

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    Turns out she sang "Rusalka" (none / 0) (#10)
    by oculus on Sat Mar 14, 2009 at 01:30:48 PM EST
    with San Diego Opera years ago and I heard her do so. But she was not well known at that point.  Also got to hear her sing a recital at Carnegie Hall.  Couldn't really see her--upper balcony on the side; but the sound was glorious.  As was the de la Renta gown.

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    I also heard Fleming sing Handel's (none / 0) (#11)
    by oculus on Sat Mar 14, 2009 at 01:34:50 PM EST
    "Rodalinda" in San Francisco.

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    I Saw Her on HD Live in the Met Gala... (none / 0) (#13)
    by santarita on Sat Mar 14, 2009 at 02:10:05 PM EST
    this year.  Talk about gowns!!! I can't remember who the designer was but the gowns that she wore were stunning.  Do the singers get to keep the gowns?  I know they don't get to keep the jewelry.

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    Attn: Glen Greenwald (none / 0) (#12)
    by oculus on Sat Mar 14, 2009 at 02:00:02 PM EST
    writes today on his work on behalf of Cato Institute studying Portugal's de-criminalization of controlled substances.  

    Nice (none / 0) (#14)
    by squeaky on Sat Mar 14, 2009 at 02:25:11 PM EST
    Was this too hard for you to type? Fingers resisted?

    Evaluating the policy strictly from an empirical perspective, decriminalization has been an unquestionable success, leading to improvements in virtually every relevant category and enabling Portugal to manage drug-related problems (and drug usage rates) far better than most Western nations that continue to treat adult drug consumption as a criminal offense.

    Greenwald


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    Did anyone else see this? (none / 0) (#15)
    by jbindc on Sat Mar 14, 2009 at 03:02:16 PM EST
    CNS has a this story regarding the fact that even though Obama signed an executive order lifting Bush's ban on federal funding of stem cell research, the Omnibus Bill signed after that includes a provision that bans federal funding of stem cell research.

    On Wednesday, only two days after he lifted President Bush's executive order banning federal funding of stem cell research that requires the destruction of human embryos, President Barack Obama signed a law that explicitly bans federal funding of any "research in which a human embryo or embryos are destroyed, discarded, or knowingly subjected to risk of injury or death."

    The provision was buried in the 465-page omnibus appropriations bill that Obama signed Wednesday.  Known as the Dickey-Wicker amendment, it has been included in the annual appropriations bill for the Department of Health and Human Services every fiscal year since 1996.

    I don't know much about CNS News Service (except that I pass the building on my way into work), but the actual provision sure enough, says:

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    SEC. 509. (a) None of the funds made available in this  Act may be used for:

    (1) the creation of a human embryo or embryos
    for research purposes; or

    (2) research in which a human embryo or embryos are destroyed, discarded, or knowingly subjected to risk of injury or death greater than that allowed for research on fetuses in utero under 45 CFR 46.204(b) and section 498(b) of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S.C. 289g(b)).

    (b) For purposes of this section, the term "human
    embryo or embryos" includes any organism, not protected as a human subject under 45 CFR 46 as of the date of the enactment of this Act, that is derived by fertilization, parthenogenesis, cloning, or any other means from one or
    more human gametes or human diploid cells.

    The story goes on to say:

    Close observers on both sides of the embryonic stem cell issue were well aware of the Dickey-Wicker amendment, and understood that it would pose a legal obstacle to federal funding of embryo-killing research even if President Obama issued an executive order reversing President Bush's administrative policy denying federal funding to that research.

    Rep. Diana DeGette (D.-Colo.) sponsored the House version of a bill--vetoed by President Bush--that would have legalized federal funding of stem cell research that destroys so-called "spare" human embryos taken from in vitro fertilization clinics.  On Monday, she told The New York Times she had already approached what she called "several pro-life Democrats" about the possibility of repealing Dickey-Wicker.

    "Dickey-Wicker is 13 years old now, and I think we need to review these policies,'' The Times quoted DeGette as saying. "I've already talked to several pro-life Democrats about Dickey-Wicker, and they seemed open to the concept of reversing the policy if we could show that it was necessary to foster this research."

    Rep. Mike Castle (R.-Del.), who co-sponsored Rep. DeGette's bill, similarly stated this week that Dickey-Wicker should be revisited.

    "Certainly, the Dickey-Wicker amendment . . . is something we need to look at," Castle told Congressional Quarterly Today on Monday. "That was passed in 1996, before we realized the full potential of embryonic stem cell research. Some researchers are telling us now that that needs to be reversed."