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    It's good to know (5.00 / 2) (#2)
    by JamesTX on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 10:01:56 AM EST
    that at least in the places where we are spreading democracy, convicted felons can vote:

    From HARPER'S WEEKLY February 3, 2009:

    "This day is a victory for all Iraqis," said an Iraqi general in Kirkuk. "I don't know whom to vote for," said an inmate at Basra's Ma'qal prison, "but a sheikh wrote this number on my hand, and I will vote for this number."

    I never quite understood the reasoning behind disqualifying convicts from voting. I understand the reason (racism), just not the reasoning (or, more accurately, the rationalization).

    Oops, here's one. . . (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by LarryInNYC on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 10:03:57 AM EST
    that didn't pass the Daschle waiver test:

    Obama Pick for Oversight Role Pulls Out Over Tax Problem

    The vaunted vetting machine (4.20 / 5) (#5)
    by andgarden on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 10:07:15 AM EST
    seems to have been nothing but smoke and mirrors.

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    I think they blew the (5.00 / 5) (#58)
    by Fabian on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 12:21:16 PM EST
    vetting budget on the Secretary of State!
    ;-)

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    BWAAAHAAA!!!! (5.00 / 4) (#66)
    by jedimom on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 12:54:58 PM EST
    ROTFLMAO dude, thank you thank you

    BWAAA FRAKIN HAAAAAAAA!!!!

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    Well, it's her fault for (3.66 / 3) (#8)
    by dk on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 10:26:02 AM EST
    being the wrong gender, obviously.  What was she thinking being born a she?

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    And (5.00 / 2) (#10)
    by jbindc on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 10:27:50 AM EST
    Hers is the least egregious - $950 lien in 2005 for taxes not paid on household help...so she drops out ad Daschle will probably be confirmed after not paying $128,000.

    Can't wait to see the Democrats scream the next time there is a Republican administration with questionable appointees....The bar has been set so low, it's now underground.

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    What? (1.00 / 1) (#9)
    by andgarden on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 10:27:04 AM EST
    Well, apparently men with (5.00 / 2) (#11)
    by dk on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 10:28:30 AM EST
    tax "issues" get forgiven and plumb appointments, while women with such issues are forced to withdraw.  

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    Perhaps the sample size. . . (5.00 / 2) (#18)
    by LarryInNYC on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 10:35:43 AM EST
    is a little small -- but to be honest, I did notice that factor as well.

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    Also. . . (5.00 / 6) (#22)
    by LarryInNYC on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 10:37:41 AM EST
    her tax issue was apparently for $950 dollars, as opposed to the tens of thousands not paid in a timely manner by the gentlemen.

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    And she resolved it (5.00 / 6) (#24)
    by Democratic Cat on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 10:42:45 AM EST
    years ago, according to press reports.  She didn't wait for her appointment to pay up.

    I'm not sure that sexism is at work, but I find it odd that she withdrew her name, given what Geithner and especially Daschle are getting away with. Apparently, no one owes her anything.

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    I guess Daschle didn't get away with it after all (none / 0) (#87)
    by Democratic Cat on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 01:34:58 PM EST
    Hard to feel sorry for the guy.

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    It doesn't follow (none / 0) (#14)
    by andgarden on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 10:32:35 AM EST
    The best explanation is that she's just the latest one to have these problems, and that the administration just can't keep defending it. Or she didn't want to deal with it herself.

    I see no evidence for your claim.

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    Um, her problem is concurrent (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by dk on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 10:36:11 AM EST
    with Daschle's, so she really isn't the latest one to come along with them.

    And if you require smoking guns to find sexism in politics in general and the Obama administration in particular, well then I suppose you may never be satisfied.  But then, of course, convincing you of it isn't of any importance.  I was just making a comment.

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    Look to the past (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by Cream City on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 10:38:22 AM EST
    too.

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    Unsure of the details of (5.00 / 3) (#57)
    by KeysDan on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 12:19:44 PM EST
    Ms. Killefer's withdrawal, but Daschle should take heed and follow suit.   The Daschle profile seems to include all the things wrong with Washington epitomized by the campaign mantra for change.  The failure to pay $128,000 owed in taxes, plus interest, until Jan 2, 2009 and the apparent failure to notify the Obama team would seem to point Daschle in the direction of the door. And a further look at his clever non-lobbyist profile should slam the door on his---nomination.  His  influence peddling and  consultative advice as well as  speaking engagements to health insurance and other interest groups are eye-rolling. Oh, and then there is the issue of the Cadillac and chauffeur provided for private use.  This kindness of friends is likely to have ended consideration for most cabinet nominees, even if declared as income with the timely payment of taxes.

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    Daschle drops out, too! (none / 0) (#56)
    by wurman on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 12:18:51 PM EST
    And yet another nominee with tax problems.... (5.00 / 2) (#6)
    by jbindc on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 10:13:46 AM EST
    Link

    Failure to pay taxes will apparently fell at least one of President Obama's appointees.

    Nancy Killefer, who was slated to be the White House's first chief performance officer, is withdrawing her nomination Tuesday, aides to President Obama say.

    Administration officials declined to immediately say why Killefer was pulling out, but it's almost certainly related to tax troubles.

    The former McKinsey consultant faced a nearly $950 lien in 2005 on her Washington, D.C. home for not paying taxes on household help.

    The lien was disclosed when Killefer was appointed in early January to a new OMB position aimed at streamlining government and rooting out waste and inefficiency.

    But that was before revelations that two other more high-profile Obama appointees had failed to pay thousands in taxes, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and Health and Human Services Secretary-designate Tom Daschle

    Now, with Geithner having survived what was largely a party-line confirmation vote and Daschle battling to keep his nomination alive, White House officials seemed to have decided that they could not have a third prominent official in the administration who failed to pay taxes.



    To borrow a phrase... (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by kdog on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 10:30:41 AM EST
    from one of the right-wing talking heads on the boob-tube last night, can't remember which..."no wonder the libs love taxes, they don't pay them!"  Sick burn:)

    If any rich, civic-minded liberals feel under-taxed, you are free to cut a check payable to the US Treasury and donate any amount you wish...the feds will cash it.  Hat tip to Gregg Easterbrook.

    I happen to think dodging taxes is a patriotic act...when done for reasons of conscience, which doesn't appear to be the case with the 3 criminal appointees.

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    Repubs are held (5.00 / 3) (#15)
    by Slado on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 10:34:35 AM EST
    to a higher standard on sex and morality because they are constantly preaching about it.

    Dems want our tax money so they should be held to a higher standard when they forget to pay themselves.

    Especially when they are on record saying this

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    link (none / 0) (#16)
    by Slado on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 10:35:04 AM EST
    daschles old pontiac ad... (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by jedimom on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 10:46:42 AM EST
    oh this is hysterical in a baaaad way

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdrp8vIoofA

    A previous Tom Daschle campaign ad showcased how Daschle drove to work daily for 15 years in an old Pontiac.


    Somebody Tell Me Please Why Judd Gregg (5.00 / 2) (#26)
    by tokin librul on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 10:49:55 AM EST
    is such a great appointment to Commerce, a department he once voted to eliminate?

    Especially cuz "we" can't butt-phuque the Pukes by choosing him?

    He's rich and lucky.

    SO?

    GOP buy in? (none / 0) (#68)
    by jedimom on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 12:59:18 PM EST
    Perhaps more sign of bipartisanship (blech) and a way to try to stick the GOP with the Stimulus Brush as well so they can alll go down togetherrrrr if it doesnt work out, that was my first thought

    but even bigger, apparently he is loved in the Sen GOP caucus, they respect him and he got TARP ONE thru, (BLECCCH) so TIm Geithner I hear pushed Gregg for the role as he figures Gregg in Commerce can help him wrangle up GOP votes for the TARP TWO EXPANSION

    SON OF TARP! OH NOES!!!!


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    Robin Carnahan (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by andgarden on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 10:56:07 AM EST
    will be the next Senator from Missouri. I hear very good things about her.

    Is that Princess Robin. . . (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by LarryInNYC on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 11:02:58 AM EST
    of the Carnahan dynasty?  No doubt there will be a tremendous netroots backlash. . .

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    heh (none / 0) (#36)
    by andgarden on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 11:05:10 AM EST
    For the record (note the color reversal).

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    Watching her (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by brodie on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 11:19:32 AM EST
    on that video, I'm already interested and even encouraged about taking that seat.  I thought I detected a little of the no-nonsense, assertive Jodie Foster in her voice too.  Attractive and looks younger than her actual age.

    Two Dems, and women at that, from MO sounds a little far-fetched on paper, but given all the political DNA she has, and with the family name well-respected there, she could be the one to get the job done.

     

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    EXCHANGE (5.00 / 1) (#69)
    by jedimom on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 01:00:32 PM EST
    Cant we exchange Carnahan for Claire? ugh Claire...

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    I like Robin a lot (5.00 / 1) (#40)
    by Maryb2004 on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 11:17:05 AM EST
    Here's the link to her announcement.  

    The Carnahans are a dynasty in Missouri but some are better than others and Robin is one of the best.

    Don't expect her to be anything other than moderate - this is Missouri after all.  Moderate is considered wildly liberal here. (Although the Carnahans in general tend to vote the right way on issues imo).  

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    DASCHLE IS OUT DASCHLE IS OUT! (5.00 / 2) (#46)
    by jedimom on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 11:52:14 AM EST
    WOOHOO!!

    I feel like Paul Revere!

    UHC IS COMING UHC IS COMING@
    WOOHOO

    If you're right... (none / 0) (#53)
    by kdog on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 12:14:13 PM EST
    I hope greater tyranny ain't coming with it in a package deal.

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    breaking it on FOX he withdrew (5.00 / 1) (#47)
    by jedimom on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 11:55:21 AM EST
    i feel bad feeling so good, heh

    daschle is out, it was DeMint breaking ranks on FOX this morning combined with the 5 editorials that did it, and Obama getting pushed HARD...the dam broke

    and when Obama announced Gregg, the press called after him about tax evaders!!! heh

    my post here, no linkage yet, live on fox

    so much for fully supporting him lol Gibby didnt want another adversarial presser shortly betcha..

    I wish Hill were tapped form the git go but nooooo Tom had to have payback...

    Who will drive Mr Dschle now? yeah he has millions,..he will survuve..


    Obama Did the Right Thing!! (5.00 / 2) (#52)
    by santarita on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 12:06:17 PM EST
    I don't care if he was pushed to do it or not.  

    Now I hope that Obama appoints someone who can reform health care.

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    Not gonna happen (5.00 / 2) (#59)
    by jbindc on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 12:21:44 PM EST
    Now I hope that Obama appoints someone who can reform health care.

    My prediction - more of the same with some flowery words.

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    You're probably right but... (none / 0) (#60)
    by santarita on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 12:24:34 PM EST
    hope springs eternal.

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    Baucusl (5.00 / 1) (#74)
    by jedimom on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 01:06:29 PM EST
    lets ask for Baucus!!! he is all ret to go with his plan and want that mandate bad..and so do I dammit :0)

     

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    cbs13 has it (5.00 / 1) (#48)
    by jedimom on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 12:00:39 PM EST
    the stmt:

    om Daschle has withdrawn his nomination to be Health and Human Services secretary.

    That's according to a joint White House statement from President Barack Obama and his former nominee.

    Obama said Tuesday he accepted the withdrawal "with sadness and regret."

    Daschle has been battling for his nomination since it was disclosed he failed to pay more than $120,000 in taxes.

    He said he's withdrawing because he's not a leader who has the full faith of Congress and will be a distraction.



    Kent Conrad pushing for ... (5.00 / 4) (#51)
    by Robot Porter on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 12:05:38 PM EST
    foreclosure issue to be addressed in stimulus package:

    Senate Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad, a North Dakota Democrat, said he and about eight other lawmakers want at least $50 billion in the stimulus package for programs aimed at fighting housing foreclosures.


    HE is so spot on (5.00 / 2) (#65)
    by jedimom on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 12:52:43 PM EST
    thank you! he says there that the TARP Deux, or "TARP Duh its teh housing stoopid, tm" if I type that enuff I hope ti will seep into the public and it will make housing nmbr one, forgive me

    anywho, he says that the need to recapitalize the banks will be billions, he is off by the factor of 100 but he is right in the theme..
    the geniuses estimate that we STILL need up to 3, count em 3 TRILLION for TSRP TWO just to recapitalize the banks

    and the reason for that is the damn underlying assets on the losses they keep writing down is the frakin housing

    so at this point, I am sick of waiting for tarp two which I thought they would enact FIRST

    give us HOLC now
    HOLC HOLC BABY

    so sorry I cant help the HOLC rant..I am in the Phoenix metro area, and they are merrily gutting our public schools due to lost revenue form housing among other issues impacting millions of Americans daily./..argle HOLC

    EZRA KLEIN for asst deputy of HHS under Max Baucus!!

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    I still don't understand ... (none / 0) (#86)
    by Robot Porter on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 01:31:37 PM EST
    why this wasn't a first priority.  If not of Obama, at least of the Congressional Dems.

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    Obama taking an unscheduled trip out of town (5.00 / 1) (#61)
    by jbindc on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 12:27:07 PM EST
    Politico is reporting that a pool is forming now as Obama is taking an unscheduled trip as the Daschle thing heats up.  

    Link

    No details.

    Wonder where he's going?  Vacation, maybe?

    "Hey, President Obama - (5.00 / 2) (#89)
    by Anne on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 01:42:20 PM EST
    two of your nominees just withdrew over tax issues, your stimulus plan seems to be developing more opposition - what are you going to do now?"

    "I'm going to Disney World!"

    It's been two whole weeks - surely it's time for a break?

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    Yes, this is just terrible... (5.00 / 1) (#91)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 02:28:26 PM EST
    President Barack Obama and first lady Michelle Obama have made a surprise stop at a public school to read to children.

    The Obamas were at the Capital City Public Charter School in northwest Washington today.

    The president told a group of gleeful second-graders: "We were just tired of being in the White House." A moment earlier the president shook each child's hand.

    Link

    How dare he!  Who does he think he is--President or something?


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    Tired of being in the WH? (5.00 / 2) (#95)
    by Anne on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 02:57:13 PM EST
    That's a good one; guess they haven't bought a ranch yet.

    And I guess when all else fails, put yourself in the company of children or really cute animals.

    Can't ever have too many "awww" moments to take the place of all those awkward and icky ones.

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    Yes... (5.00 / 1) (#96)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 03:02:02 PM EST
    ...we certainly don't need anyone out there stressing to young kids that reading is important.

    Education is for elitists and liberals, right?

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    It just seems like this surprise visit..... (5.00 / 2) (#99)
    by vml68 on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 03:19:40 PM EST
    was more a "photo-op" than a need to stress the importance of reading and education to the kids. I think Obama was hoping to distract the media from asking all those questions about Daschle.

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    Especially (5.00 / 1) (#101)
    by jbindc on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 03:23:43 PM EST
    Since it was put together in a few minutes - not on the schedule and the press were caught unawares.  

    "Don't look at the man behind the curtain!"

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    Spoken like... (1.00 / 2) (#104)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 03:43:31 PM EST
    ...a refugee from Red State.  Well done.  

    He must cater the the WH press because they put him in office, right?  Can't have any surprises!

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    Well, no (5.00 / 2) (#105)
    by jbindc on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 04:16:39 PM EST
    Live in a blue state, came from a blue state, and been hanging out here for a year now and other progressive sites, but unlike some who are in the "Obama -can-do-no-wrong camp", I actually prefer to think things through, analyze, and not make excuses.

    (Shrug) But that's just me.

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    It would be different if you... (none / 0) (#127)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 08:05:59 PM EST
    ...did actually "think things through, analyze and not make excuses" instead of just posting rash, unfounded speculation in your rush to paint Obama as some big failure.  

    Like, "OMG, Obama is leaving the White House--he's going on vacation to avoid being responsible!11"  When in fact, he was out doing what he asked all of us to do--give back to our communities.  

    Not to mention going infront of the media and taking responsibility for the whole sorted Daschle episode.  

    After the last 8 years, I find it refreshing to have an adult for President that's willing to say "I screwed-up".  Imagine that, the President taking responsibility for his actions.  

    There's enough disillusionment and disappointment in this life without the "Obama can never, ever do anything to satisfy me" people adding to it.

    Also, its interesting that someone who's been "hanging out here for a year now" posted their first comment on 01/06/2009 02:45:53 PM EST.  You weren't by any chance banned under another name, where you?  

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    I find it pretty amusing that you can (5.00 / 1) (#130)
    by Anne on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 08:53:06 PM EST
    think it refreshing that we have a president  who admits he screwed up, and in the same breath, rake Michael Phelps over the coals for making the same admission...

    When Politico first reported the sudden call for pool reporters because Obama was leaving the WH, no one knew where he was going or what he was doing.  It turns out to have been an unscheduled, spur-of-the-moment decision to appear at the charter school - and in the storm of the Daschle announcement and Gibbs' absolute mangling of the WH spin on it, it seemed an awful lot like a hey-we-need-a-feel-good-story-out-there-and-we-need-it-ASAP.

    I watched Obama in his sit-down with Brian Williams, and yes, Obama did admit he screwed up.  But it wasn't an unequivocal admission, he is still lauding the skills of Tom Daschle.  He says he needs to send the message that there is no double standard - but it wasn't Obama that made the decision to let Daschle go - so what, exactly is he owning up to?  Williams never asks him about the Geithner nomination in light of this alleged interest in not having a double standard, and he never asks Obama whether he intended to ask Daschle to withdraw if Daschle hadn't pulled the plug himself.

    I've watched it several times, and he says the words, but the context of them doesn't really support ownership of the "mistake."

    Had Obama come out and stated that in light of what he had learned about Daschle, and in light of his commitment to transparency and ethics in his administration, he had withdrawn the nomination, that would have been refreshing and that would have been ownership of the situation.

    Instead, we got "my bad," and a photo op with school kids.

    But I guess if all we're going to do is hold Obama to the bar set in the Bush administration, I suppose we owe him a great big ol' "way to go!"

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    It is amusing... (none / 0) (#139)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Thu Feb 05, 2009 at 12:40:28 PM EST
    ...especially since I don't recall "raking" MP over the coals about his apology.  

    But whatever trips your trigger.  Your "optics" are just a little too focused-in on the negative IMO.  

    Parent

    Thanks ladies... (none / 0) (#128)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 08:07:53 PM EST
    ...we can always count on you two to be troll-rating in violation of the site rules!

    Parent
    Um (5.00 / 1) (#133)
    by Dr Molly on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 05:20:27 AM EST
    Name-calling and personal insults are also against the site rules, but I guess those don't matter for you two, do they? I downrate comments that do those things, and also since these little PUMA Rants are so incredibly stale and boring by now. Talk about reliving the primaries...

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    You're funny. (none / 0) (#138)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Thu Feb 05, 2009 at 12:35:31 PM EST
    Thanks for the laugh!

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    Dr Molly FYI (none / 0) (#140)
    by squeaky on Thu Feb 05, 2009 at 04:31:43 PM EST
    A 5 is for a comment that you believe is exceptionally written or contains terrific content. A 1 is to rarely be given. It is for a comment that violates the site commenting rules or contains demonstrable falsehoods or is incomprehensible.
    You should not give out "1"s based on whether you agree or disagree with the viewpoint expressed.

    When it comes to my attention that someone is troll-rating all comments expressing a particular view or by a particular poster who has not violated the site rules, I undo all their ratings.

    TL

    But keep the ones coming, I take it as a compliment from the likes of you et al.


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    Don't know where you get that (5.00 / 2) (#100)
    by Anne on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 03:19:56 PM EST
    "for elitists or liberals" conclusion from, but whatever.

    Reading certainly is important - I don't dispute that, but I can't be the only one who thinks it looks like he ran away from the WH to escape the growing criticism; he fled to his comfort zone.  Guess this job isn't as easy as he thought it would be, huh?

    It's all about the optics.

     

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    His comfort zone? (3.00 / 2) (#102)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 03:40:23 PM EST
    Wouldn't that be Chicago?  I doubt his "comfort zone" is a DC elementary school classroom.  

    No, you're not the only one who thinks he's "running away", the wingnut trolls commenting on the link I posted do too.  

    Funny that.  


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    Sure it would (5.00 / 4) (#103)
    by jbindc on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 03:42:34 PM EST
    It would be like the media this past year - no hard questions and absolute love and adoration.

    Parent
    How about skipping the name calling.... (5.00 / 2) (#108)
    by vml68 on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 04:27:18 PM EST
    and try to work on accepting the fact that some of us might interpret or see things very differently that you.
    You don't know Obama's motivation for the sudden trip any more than I do.

    the wingnut trolls commenting on the link I posted


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    lol (1.00 / 3) (#109)
    by squeaky on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 04:38:06 PM EST
    And it should come as no surprise that the "some of us" you speak of are now in total lockstep with the wingnuts. It is lipsinc on the Plantation.

    Once the PUMAs are fully absorbed by the GOP or whittled down to the size of Fred Phelps org we will have a little less static here and be able to criticize and cheer without the distraction of those whose sole purpose is to bash Obama and emulate Hillary.

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    Well played! (5.00 / 3) (#110)
    by jbindc on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 04:42:16 PM EST
    You managed to bring Hillary into the conversation when no one was talking about her.

    I proclaim you - "King of the Non-Sequiturs"!

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    Huh? (1.00 / 1) (#111)
    by squeaky on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 04:45:29 PM EST
    If Fred Phelps org is being discussed no mention of his extreme homophobia has to be on the table for it to be a core principal of the organization.

    At worst I can be accused of stating the obvious. Hardly a non-sequitur when it is the bond that holds the commenters you refer to together.

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    Squeaky..... (5.00 / 4) (#117)
    by vml68 on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 05:23:40 PM EST
    I may not agree with MileHi's point of view on some topics but I would like to believe he is a reasonable person and can agree to disagree without the name calling.

    You on the other hand have a meaness to you that is depressing. I prefer not to respond to your comments and I would appreciate it if you let the people I am responding to, do their own talking. If they agree with you so be it but I prefer not to hear from you.

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    Don't waste your typing, vml (5.00 / 3) (#118)
    by jbindc on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 05:27:32 PM EST
    Not worth it.  

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    Well (1.00 / 1) (#121)
    by squeaky on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 05:42:49 PM EST
    I also prefer not to read your one note song comments that can all be reduced to Obama bad, told you so.

    But alas it is a blog that allows for a variety of points of view. If you want a kaffe klatch, I am sure you know where to find one.

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    LOL, I think you need to read what you write.... (5.00 / 3) (#124)
    by vml68 on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 06:07:16 PM EST
    But alas it is a blog that allows for a variety of points of view. If you want a kaffe klatch, I am sure you know where to find one.

    "Alas it..allows for a variety...." --sure looks like you are the one who wants the kaffe klatch.

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    No (1.00 / 3) (#125)
    by squeaky on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 06:12:15 PM EST
    I have loved reading and being challenged by TL posts and comments for many years now.

    PUMAs have basically replaced the wingnuts of old. We used to have more of them, wingnuts that is.

    THey were actually a bit more varied than the 99.99% predictable comments that come out of your camp.

    I have never been interested in a fan club centered around on topic, but you sure have proven yourself to be.

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    If you want to talk about predictability.... (5.00 / 4) (#126)
    by vml68 on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 06:40:59 PM EST
    take a look in the mirror. Rather than skip over or ignore a comment or commentor you don't like, you do the same "PUMA", "GOPer", "wingnut", name calling over and over.

    As you have pointed out, TL allows for a variety of view points and while many posters disagree with each other, I don't see anyone but you resorting to the constant name calling.

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    My Pet Goat? (none / 0) (#131)
    by squeaky on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 10:43:19 PM EST
    If you make a comment that I disagree it is certain that if I respond the comment will disagree.

    Using The Obama's trip to an elementary school as a reason to slam him for loafing or avoiding a tragedy

     is absurd.

    Oh yeah Obama is just like bush, that too.

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    Just as long (5.00 / 2) (#97)
    by NJDem on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 03:09:55 PM EST
    as he didn't read them My Pet Goat, I'm good.

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    Iraq? (none / 0) (#62)
    by andgarden on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 12:30:19 PM EST
    stimulus (none / 0) (#73)
    by jedimom on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 01:05:29 PM EST
    i dunno the stimulus is in trouble unless it is emergent he shouldnt leave ..maybe he is going on a promotional tour?

    Is it Canada to calm them down about the trade war they think is emerging? tradition has US POTUS go to Canada first usually...

    hey did anyone notice michelle is on a listening tour too? I find it Hillyarious that everyone does listening tours ever since Hillary, Gillenbrand, Michelle, HRC set the mold :0)

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    I might take a trip with Chuck Schumer (none / 0) (#75)
    by andgarden on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 01:06:56 PM EST
    to the Albany suburbs to help our special election candidate.

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    awesome! (none / 0) (#78)
    by jedimom on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 01:08:59 PM EST
    oh I love Chuck Schumer he is my old Senator! I saw him when I went to the Bon Jovi HRC fund raiser last month too! I wooted at him! He was surprised and then pleased :0)

    that is awesome ! help the students!!!


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    Albany (none / 0) (#79)
    by jedimom on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 01:10:10 PM EST
    I am trying to get my girl who is in school in NYC to get involved ! is there a good site I can direct her to?

    thank you very much :0)

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    Should be read in the subjunctive (none / 0) (#81)
    by andgarden on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 01:14:14 PM EST
    "If I were Barack Obama."

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    We'll know things have improved (none / 0) (#77)
    by Fabian on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 01:08:52 PM EST
    when they don't have to do "surprise visits" to Iraq and Afghanistan anymore.  (Pakistan too?)

    The whole "unannounced visit" phenomena during the Bush regime gave lie to their claims that there was real progress and improvement in Iraq.

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    To end a discussion (none / 0) (#1)
    by CoralGables on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 10:01:54 AM EST
    from yesterday.

    This from ABC news:


    By now, most people have probably heard about or seen Jennifer Hudson's flawless performance of the national anthem at Sunday's Super Bowl.

    What they may not know is the reason why it was flawless: Hudson lip-synched the anthem to a previously recorded track.

    She did so at the request of the pre-game show producer Rickey Minor. Minor told The Associated Press that he insisted Hudson and Faith Hill, who sang "America the Beautiful" before the anthem, use the tracks the National Football League requires them to submit a week before the game.



    Well, call me naive then. (5.00 / 2) (#31)
    by brodie on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 11:00:39 AM EST
    I would expect the backing music to be canned, and probably any backing vocals, such as the "singers" arrayed behind Faith Hill who don't seem to have a mic nearby.

    But there used to be a tradition in this country of the artist actually singing the Anthem live.  Part of the fun of it, the built-in drama and even anxiety, was seeing whether the artist could deliver the goods on a notoriously difficult song without embarrassing themselves with an off note or wrong word.

    Interesting here too is how the same-day reaction was reported by MSNBC in a deeply misleading story which featured Hudson's alleged "flawless performance" -- taking a deep breath at the start, pumping her fist when finished (shades of the deception of that contestant in Quiz Show, mopping his brow) -- and so forth.  Only about halfway into the story do you see the minor fact dropped in that JH wasn't performing live.

    I agree with Elton John on the lip-synching by major stars -- they should all be taken out and shot ...

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    <itøs the postt Roseanne Barr (5.00 / 1) (#50)
    by oculus on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 12:04:20 PM EST
    precautionary rule.

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    <sorry. I am "fast" as opposed to (5.00 / 2) (#54)
    by oculus on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 12:14:40 PM EST
    <2slow" blogging on a <computer in Denmark. Not only did the Danes reject the Euro, but also the shift and quotation mark keys are in odd places.

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    Jennifer Vanilli? (none / 0) (#27)
    by tokin librul on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 10:54:51 AM EST
    Who gnu?

    Did you know Faith Hill's first profesasional singing gig was at a tobacco-spitting contest?

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    Apparently this has been (none / 0) (#4)
    by Fabian on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 10:06:55 AM EST
    a colder, snowier winter than usual.  I didn't notice.  Perhaps it is because I compare winters to my childhood winters 100+ miles to the north, on the tail end of the lake effect snow belt.

    Proper winter has snow covering the barren ground, which is cleanly frozen solid.  I get a thrill out of driving on sloppy roads and calculating the changes in stopping distance and such.  

    The kids like it too.  We have learned about the different kinds of snow, how to walk on ice and how to identify animal tracks.  It's a winter wonderland!

    Ha. Walk a mile in my boots (5.00 / 2) (#17)
    by Cream City on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 10:35:22 AM EST
    here.  Yes, near-record snow in December, and it has been the coldest two months, December and January, in almost a quarter of a century.  This week, we finally got above freezing for the first time since January 6 -- and then, we were above freezing for only a few hours.

    Heating bills are killing us, in addition to the second burst heating pipe in two weeks.  (This one, fortunately, was in the basement -- so this time, there was no ceiling below to fall down around us.  That ceiling still is open to the joists, drying out, since the joists turned out to be covered with ice. . . .)

    Btw, lovely (but blowing hard, sideways) lake effect snow today, a couple of blocks from my Great Lake.  But coooooold again.  We await this weekend, when it is to soar above freezing again, even to a balmy 40 -- when all the snow will turn to slush.  And then it will freeze again, and it all won't be gone until late April.  

    But the days are getting longer, so the daffodils amid the snow are on the way.  Beautiful springs and liveable summers make it all worthwhile -- as do, yes, the sights of winter and the sledding.  Great sledding this year!

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    I got a chuckle. (5.00 / 1) (#55)
    by Fabian on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 12:16:46 PM EST
    I went to the co-op yesterday (no parking lot - just parking on the icy street) and on the way home I saw at least two snow ramps people had constructed.  If life hands you snow, make snow ramps and break out the snow boards!

    Sorry about the burst pipes.  Someone commented elsewhere about the trouble staying warm in a mobile home.  We did that one winter while we were cleaning up the house from a fire.  (Using trailer homes for temporary, post-disaster housing is not a new concept.)  We ringed it round with hay bales to provide some kind of wind break & insulation.  We were fortunate in that we didn't have any running water or sewer to the trailer, so no pipes froze.  The water and such was in the house - which had very little heat.

    I feel like I'm living in the lap of luxury just to have heat and running water in the same place!


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    Wood stoves! (none / 0) (#93)
    by gyrfalcon on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 02:42:23 PM EST
    And in the meantime, how about throwing some antifreeze in your heating system?  It's de rigeur around here.

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    Can't do antifreeze (5.00 / 1) (#106)
    by Cream City on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 04:18:33 PM EST
    in pipes more than a century old, we're told.  At least, we were told that by the guys we trust.

    Our historical preservation project we call home comes with all sorts of learning curves -- and requires that we really check out anything told us by repair people under the age of 40.  It's getting hard around here to find workers who really understand hydronic heating systems such as ours.  And we have to be lucky about which day we have an emergency, since the ones who really know their stuff are semi-retired, not working fulltime now.

    We do what we can.  Pipes are wrapped -- but not one set that burst, because they were hidden behind a wall from a bad remodeling before we were born.  But then we get to open up walls, ceilings, etc., and we find fascinating stuff sometimes, messages from workers gone and in the grave even before that.  But they live on; such stuff is all part of our "house museum" now. :-)

    There is competition for the coolest thing in our collection -- but my favorite is the title, all the way back almost two centuries now, early pages handwritten.  And the prices!  Ohhhhhhh.

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    I used to talk to the Engineering (none / 0) (#112)
    by Fabian on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 04:48:02 PM EST
    guys (yeah, all men) at the hospital.  A boiler system is fascinating.  I seem to remember them adding conditioning chemicals to the water to keep corrosion to a minimum.  

    I remember the hospital wanted to save money by outsourcing engineering and maintenance.  The idea got shot down because no one wanted to lose the experienced staff who knew where everything was and how everything worked.  

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    Wow, you've got a really (none / 0) (#132)
    by gyrfalcon on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 11:38:17 PM EST
    historic hot water heating system there.  I don't think I would have realized they existed 100 years ago.  The owners must have been "early adopters."  Was it originally oil based, or did they have coal-burning boilers?

    I've always thought being a plumber could be a totally fascinating job in the older parts of the country because the older houses all have a crazy mish-mash of pipes and systems.

    Although my house is almost as old as yours, being in the country, it didn't get central heating put in until much later, so the pipes are fine.

    I've found some interesting stuff here and there in my house, too, including a small child's button-up leather shoe wedged down between floor and wall of the storeroom when I had it semi-finished, and a big pit full of very old bottles, broken crockery, broken metal parts of wagon wheels and the like, plus the enormous skull and pieces of skeleton of what I think must have been a sow, which I discovered when I tried to dig a hole to plant a mock orange behind my barn.

    It kills me that people don't keep logs, like a ship's log, about their homes over the years.  There were real people living real lives here long ago.  It was their house.  And it feels somehow wrong that I don't know a thing about them except that there was once a child who lost a button-up shoe and a sow who died.

    Not to mention how helpful it would be to know something about the various odd quirks and things done to the house itself over the years and the reasons for them.

    My house wasn't built here but was moved onto the foundation sometime around the turn of the last century, but the big sugar maples framing the foot of my drive are 150 to 200 years old, according to the tree guy, so somebody lived here before my house was moved.  What happened?  Did their original house burn down, fall apart?  No idea.

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    Plumbing.... (none / 0) (#134)
    by kdog on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 08:32:31 AM EST
    noble work...I always say, there is no problem as immediate as a plumbing problem...in a post-apocolyptic world plumbers will be kings!  No heat?  A leak?  Toilet don't flush?...You have no other problems at that point.

    I sling plumbing supplies for a living...the nobility of the work keeps me from feeling like too much of a sc*mbag...yes, everything is made in Asia, often by exploited labor, and that is tough to stomach...but at least I can take heart in having a small part in heating people's homes and offices, protecting the water supply, preventing disease, and keeping the water flowing.  Helps me sleep at night...the noble work.

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    It is good work (5.00 / 1) (#135)
    by gyrfalcon on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 02:13:32 PM EST
    It requires real smarts to be a good plumber, and it really is an interesting, problem-solving kind of job that, as you say, results in making other people's lives work better every single day.

    It's also a very good income.  I've said for a long time that we make a mistake as a society by emphasizing the cultural superiority of having a college education and a white-collar job.  There's a terrific shortage of skilled trades like plumbers and electricians and carpenters and the like, and they are all really great and very satisfying and financially well-compensated professions.  And nobody even minimally competent in those professions is ever going to be unemployed.

    Something to think about when you're talking to your kids about what they want to be when they grow up, IMHO.

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    Very true.... (none / 0) (#136)
    by kdog on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 02:23:12 PM EST
    If I've heard it once I've heard it 1000 times..."Learn a trade, you will never go hungry."  The same can't be said for advertising exec.

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    Not To Mention (none / 0) (#137)
    by squeaky on Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 02:23:52 PM EST
    That being a plumber these days offers a fast track to upward mobility. I hear that Joe the plumber moved from author to journalist and is now a GOP advisor.

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    There's been a lot of snow in England, too (none / 0) (#63)
    by scribe on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 12:40:43 PM EST
    lately.  It would seem the Brits, living on their lovely garden isles, deal with snow even less well than does Washington, DC.  

    Which led to this little incident, captured live on video, from today's Sun:

    Cops (in lime-green jackets) come on kids in hoodies snowballing the creeping traffic.
    Kids redirect their fire at the cops.

    Cops respond in kind.

    In 'murca, the kids would have been tasered or worse.

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    I got a laugh (5.00 / 2) (#72)
    by Fabian on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 01:04:19 PM EST
    at the businesses being outraged and blaming the government.  Pffff.  The hospital I worked at had plans for staffing during winter storms, including a 4WD carpool.  

    Business leaders were furious today as it was estimated up to two million people across London had another day off.

    They claim yesterday's "Snow Day" cost the economy £1.2billion.

    Around one in five across the UK failed to make it in to work on Monday.

    Bosses say Britain could lose £3BILLION by the end of the week if the cold snap continues.

    David Frost, Director-general of the British Chambers of Commerce, accused the authorities of complacency and said the snow should have been handled better.

    (They survived the Blitz only to fall victim to snow!)

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    I see neither snow shovels, nor (none / 0) (#85)
    by scribe on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 01:30:58 PM EST
    snow plows have been put to use in any of those images.

    I suspect that the Brits have neither in stock.

    But, then again, it might be that they subscribe to one of the aphorisms my dad tells me his (illiterate dirt farmer) grandfather was fond of:

    The most useless tools in the world are snow shovels and alarm clocks.  Come June, the snow will all be gone.  When you're done sleeping, you'll wake up.


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    Garden spades and grain scoops (none / 0) (#88)
    by Fabian on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 01:36:10 PM EST
    are both useful, although not quite as specialized.

    Road graders can also be used to clear snow.

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    In the US, we know that. (5.00 / 1) (#90)
    by scribe on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 01:49:07 PM EST
    I kinda doubt that kind of institutional memory exists on a large scale in the UK.

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    They're even less prepared (5.00 / 1) (#94)
    by gyrfalcon on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 02:45:37 PM EST
    for cold.  All their water pipes are typically run up outside the houses, and they don't do insulation much, either.  And worst of all, they don't have mosquitos, so no need for screens on the windows in summer.

    Buncha wimps!  English friends of mine visiting one lovely June almost passed out from the heat-- it was 75.

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    I love reading the Irish Times (none / 0) (#107)
    by Cream City on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 04:21:18 PM EST
    weather stories.  They face a challenge in making them interesting, since the weather is always between 40 and 70.  

    I bet the newbies aren't getting stuck doing the weather stories now, and that the stories are top of the front page for a change.

    (I trained at a paper where the weather always is a story and the competition was fierce for a guaranteed banned headline story, top of page one.)  

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    Gregg (none / 0) (#7)
    by andgarden on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 10:24:35 AM EST
    Don't get. . . (5.00 / 3) (#12)
    by LarryInNYC on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 10:30:21 AM EST
    that one at all.

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    who knows (none / 0) (#19)
    by andgarden on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 10:35:48 AM EST
    immigration labor fight (none / 0) (#20)
    by jedimom on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 10:36:03 AM EST
    I think it sets up an 'interesting' dichotomy, lol

    the pro labor group often buts heads with Commerce Dept on jobs, and Gregg is big on immigration H1B visas etc....

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    Say goodbye to 60 also (none / 0) (#41)
    by vicndabx on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 11:18:19 AM EST
    CNN, NYTimes and HuffPo all say Bonnie Newman, Gregg's chief of staff will replace him.  Don't know much about her or NH politics.

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    Open Seat (5.00 / 1) (#43)
    by WS on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 11:25:24 AM EST
    This does open up the seat in 2010.  It'll be easier to win an open seat contest rather than fighting an incumbent Gregg, although he was still beatable.  

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    RINO (5.00 / 1) (#67)
    by jedimom on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 12:56:51 PM EST
    Ahh yes, she is a RINO AND she is a placeholder, so a DEM can easily take that seat in 2010, my NH friends are sooo DEM soooo blue, true blue thru and thru!

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    hmm (none / 0) (#29)
    by lilburro on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 10:58:05 AM EST
    ABC News: Obama to Congressional Leaders: Give in a Little

    President Obama worked to win Republican support of his economic stimulus bill by calling in Democratic congressional leaders and telling them to make concessions to their GOP colleagues.

    A group of centrist Democrats is emerging as a potential force to reshape the bailout package by teaming up with moderate Republicans to reduce the overall cost of the bill and funnel more money to rebuilding the nation's infrastructure.

    I don't know exactly what to think, but at least it's the Dem bill we're working on - at the end, we can still say, your alternative Republican bill sucked.  And get some Republicans to say that along with us.


    More money for infrastructure. . . (5.00 / 1) (#30)
    by LarryInNYC on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 11:00:11 AM EST
    sounds good to me.

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    It is (none / 0) (#33)
    by andgarden on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 11:03:20 AM EST
    but in order for this to work we need more of everything.

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    Less tax cuts. (5.00 / 3) (#35)
    by LarryInNYC on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 11:04:45 AM EST
    Or at least considerably more carefully targeted ones.

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    Indeed (5.00 / 2) (#37)
    by andgarden on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 11:06:13 AM EST
    I would think about a 6 month suspension of the payroll tax.

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    So now we're going to have to rely (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by tigercourse on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 11:04:12 AM EST
    upon Republicans and Conservative Democrats to get a good bill crafted? Weird.

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    Ooh great, Ben Nelson (5.00 / 2) (#38)
    by dk on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 11:06:46 AM EST
    writes the stimulus bill.  That's change we can believe in.  

    The infrastructure money is good, but this seems to imply they will be balanced by more unhelpful tax cuts.  But, Obama wants his weak-tea stimulus, and that seems to be what he's going to get.

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    Shouldn't that be: (5.00 / 2) (#45)
    by Anne on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 11:37:59 AM EST
    Give in a Little MORE?

    And what's the next headline:  "For Me?  Pretty please?  With a Cherry on Top?"

    It should be, "No More Mr. Nice Guy," but Obama seems to be poised to roll over any minute.

    I can't believe how weak these people are.

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    Maybe we should (none / 0) (#84)
    by Fabian on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 01:27:26 PM EST
    all call the Republicans in Congress and tell THEM that we want HOLC and Universal Health Care!  Maybe we'll get it then?

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    fly on the wall (none / 0) (#70)
    by jedimom on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 01:01:37 PM EST
    oh how I yearn to see Reid and Pelosis face at that news!

    like sucking lemons, poor critters

    didnt they hear he was BIPARTISAN during the primaries, LOL

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    correction (none / 0) (#71)
    by jedimom on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 01:02:13 PM EST
    so sorry I believe Nancy says she is POST partisan, light years past partisan, she doesnt even see the light of partisanship....

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    Wasn't it Pelosi (none / 0) (#83)
    by Fabian on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 01:25:21 PM EST
    who said sure there is sexism, but it wasn't a big deal and you just have to deal with it?

    Is there anything that is a big deal with Pelosi or is everything beneath her notice?

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    Beginning in January 2008 (none / 0) (#39)
    by ding7777 on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 11:07:53 AM EST
    approximately 10,000 people per day will attain the age of 62.

    Assuming at least 1/3 of them are in the work-force working full-time, that's over 1.3 million people a year potentially dropping out of the workforce even if the employment picture was robust - and taking their 401(k) with them.

    Was the housing bubble was a smoke-screen to cover the losses by the big banks from the retiring boomers?

    Does anyone have any links which discusses the boomers, housing, economy, TARP, etc?

    Not sure but... (none / 0) (#44)
    by santarita on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 11:31:39 AM EST
    there used to be a concern that the market would plummet when the baby boomers started liquidating their 401k holdings.  That was always kind of a strange concern based on an assumption that people would totally liquidate all at once.  

    In any event the stock market collapse and the housing bubble collapse have destroyed trillions of the "wealth effect".

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    Baucus@@!! (none / 0) (#64)
    by jedimom on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 12:48:44 PM EST
    Hey can we make BAUCUS the HHSS EC!!

    That would be TOTALLY AWESOME!!

    He is totlaly for UHC REAL U in that UHC!

    Baucus is not for Universal Health (none / 0) (#120)
    by caseyOR on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 05:35:33 PM EST
    Care. He supports universal coverage. His plan calls for mandates, but that really just benefits health insurance companies. Gives them more $$$$ in premiums and provides no guarantee that people will still actually get health care. Many people have insurance who cannot afford to actually use it.

    Insurance companies will still be free to deny health care services to people. They will still be free to set outrageous costs for premiums and deductibles and co-pays.

    Single-payer Universal Health Care, ala Medicare for All (HR 676), is the best plan for people, but not so good for the for-profit health care industry.

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    Wrong . (none / 0) (#122)
    by ThatOneVoter on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 05:52:15 PM EST
    Mandates were the sticking point in 93-94---the insurance companies insisted that Hillary's plan have no mandates.
    Now, some mandate plans are worse than others, no doubt.

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    Not Sure What You are Saying (none / 0) (#123)
    by squeaky on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 05:56:33 PM EST
    But it is certain that now Insurance companies are demanding mandates as part of any UC plan.

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    Gibby (none / 0) (#76)
    by jedimom on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 01:07:37 PM EST
    Gibbs is tepping in it BIG TIME on the Judd Gregg rpelacment he just claimed this WH had NO IMPACT on WHICH PARTY replaced Gregg in NH GOV, after Gov Lynch said he did

    not a good thing

    press smells blood, theya re jumping all over him now..

    vetting daschle (none / 0) (#80)
    by jedimom on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 01:13:01 PM EST
    the press is now shouting out all at once and challenging Gibby on vetting Daschle when they knew what, vetting breakdown

    this is at the WH Briefing to clarify where they had been sitting nicely raising hands joking for past two weeks prior to this...

    it is getting ugly, they should have gotten Daschle out days ago, arrogant iMO, the bloom is coming off and we havent gotten our HOLC done yet dammit HOLC! HOLC!

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    HOLC (none / 0) (#82)
    by jbindc on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 01:23:43 PM EST
    will never be, alas.  Keep fighting, but I think you are following a pipe dream, jedimom.

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    BushCo Secret Memos (none / 0) (#92)
    by squeaky on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 02:33:46 PM EST
    Looks like we are going to get a bit of choice reading soon in the form of BushCo secret memos. Holder has indicated that he is all for transparency and the office that has authored most of the secret memos OLC is soon to be taken over by Dawn Johnsen who also seems keen to release them. Also there seem to be many more of these memos than previously believed.

    via war & piece

    Will this matter? (none / 0) (#98)
    by NJDem on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 03:14:29 PM EST
    "Black Caucus chair: "Troubling concerns" on Gregg"

    link

    The more I'm learning about this guy, the more I don't like him...

    Something else to make us nervous (none / 0) (#113)
    by jbindc on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 04:54:02 PM EST
    Iran launches satellite

    Iran said Tuesday that it had launched its first domestically produced satellite, a move that has prompted concerns in the United States and other nations about Iran's nuclear ambitions and its ability to deploy long-range ballistic missiles.

    Iran's official news agency, IRNA, said the satellite was launched using a Safir-2 rocket, pictured at a launch pad at an undisclosed location on Monday.

    Iran's official news agency, IRNA, said the satellite was launched using a Safir-2 rocket, pictured at a launch pad at an undisclosed location on Monday.

    The launch on Monday, coinciding with celebrations marking the 30th anniversary of the Islamic revolution, also creates an early challenge for President Obama, who has sought to strike a conciliatory tone toward Iran by conditionally offering dialogue after years of tensions. The United States and other nations believe Tehran wants to develop nuclear weapons, a charge that Iran's leaders deny.



    Nervous? (none / 0) (#115)
    by squeaky on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 05:00:38 PM EST
    Because Iran is the Axis of evil?

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    New Iran Accomplishment (none / 0) (#114)
    by squeaky on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 04:59:26 PM EST
    Iran said Tuesday that it had launched its first domestically produced satellite...

    [snip]

    The satellite, which weighed about 60 pounds, is named Omid, or Hope, IRNA said, and was sent into space as a "data-processing satellite project" that began in March 2005 as "the first practical step toward acquiring national space technology."

    [snip]

    That would make it part of the exclusive club of states that can loft objects into orbit, which now numbers at least nine.

    The response:

    In Washington, State Department spokesman Robert Wood called the reports a matter of "great concern" and potentially in violation of United Nations agreements limiting Iran from missile activity.

    NYT


    Wells Fargo Bank Parties On (none / 0) (#116)
    by Inspector Gadget on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 05:09:47 PM EST
    It's still "part of [their] corporate culture"...then, I've seen more elaborate celebrating over nothing these past few months than ever before, too.

    Ah, again you gimme lecture notes (none / 0) (#129)
    by Cream City on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 08:43:25 PM EST
    I teach about Patsy Takamoto Mink in teaching about Title IX, of course -- but I had not known so much as this about her inspiration for the bill.  Btw, I tried to describe to students today the way that gym class was in the '60s, pre-Title IX, when we only had field hockey, had to wear these goshawful gym bloomers, etc.  I finally found a photo of girls in gym bloomers then and put it together (on a Power Point slide) with a photo of our campus women athletes today.  The contrast is so striking.  The students hooted.

    The slide before that one is of Patsy Mink.  She is not forgotten.  And now I have more info -- and will add Dr. T. to the slide.  Thanks, again, Don -- my TA from afar.