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WaPo: Misstating Facts Is Good "Journalism"

Paul Krugman coined the memorable phrase "GOP Says World Is Flat; Dems Disagree" as an example of what "journalism" is today - "He Said, She Said" emptiness. Fred Hiatt, unsurprisingly, confirms this view today:

[T]he Sierra Club, the League of Conservation Voters, Friends of the Earth, and Media Matters for America sent a joint letter to the Post reiterating the call for some form of correction or clarification . . . “George Will is entitled to his own opinions, but he is not entitled to his own facts,” the letter concluded. . . . But the Post’s position remains the same.

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“We looked into these allegations, and I have a different interpretation than [those who signed the letter] about what George Will is and is not entitled to,” said the paper’s editorial page editor, Fred Hiatt. “If you want to start telling me that columnists can’t make inferences which you disagree with—and, you know, they want to run a campaign online to pressure newspapers into suppressing minority views on this subject—I think that’s really inappropriate. It may well be that he is drawing inferences from data that most scientists reject — so, you know, fine, I welcome anyone to make that point. But don’t make it by suggesting that George Will shouldn’t be allowed to make the contrary point. Debate him.”

But there is no debate. George Will writes falsehoods. And Fred Hiatt and the Washington Post prints them. That is the problem.

This is a familiar issue. In October 2006, I wrote on the very subject:

David Ignatius laments the demise of civil rational public discourse that he labels centrist:

People from the Old Media, like me, instinctively prefer a centrist style of civilized debate. Of course we do, say Halperin and Harris. We are the gatekeepers of the old order. The shrill voices of the New Media -- the bloggers and talk-radio hosts and other partisan megaphones that Halperin and Harris describe as the "Freak Show" -- don't just threaten our beloved center. They might eventually put us out of business.

The gatekeepers have been AWOL. There is no rational debate because lies are accorded equal treatment as truth. Issues are nothing in campaigns for the Gatekeepers, personality and image everything. David Ignatius and the Old Media failed us and Left bloggers were forced to deal with it. And we have. But if Ignatius wonders what killed rational discourse in this country he need look no further than his mirror. He and the Media failed and accepted the Republican ground rules of falsehoods and trivialities. Ignatius, you killed rational discourse.

This disease extends to ertswhile "progressives" like Matt Miller. I wrote then:

With due respect to Miller, a smart guy, politicians and partisans have never respected facts UNLESS they are required to do so. That is what a free press is supposed to do and simply does not anymore. Miller considers it a problem of a Media focused more on heat than light. I believe the problem goes much deeper than that. The utter disrespect for the truth exhibited by all media is the heart of the problem. Liars are not called liars. Falsehoods are not called falsehoods. What passes for reporting these days is "Republicans say . Democrats say __." When someone spews falsehoods, there is not a Media outlet in the country that will say 'that is false.' Not the New York Times, not the Washington Post, not any of them.

For crissakes, the former hack who had the title of Ombudsman for the Times claimed to stand up for truth by issuing slanderous falsehoods. Who was outraged? The Lefty blogs. Anybody else? Jay Rosen? Anyone?

I got bad news for Miller. The "beardstrokers," with few exceptions (Herbert, Krugman) have not demanded the truth. Miller wrote on social security and instead of demanding truth from the Bush Administration he chose to chastise Democrats for not being open to discussion. And you believe you can be persuasive with such an attitude? Not a mention of the pack of lies that Bush has peddled?

It is pretty simple, there will be no meaningful political discourse as long as lies are tolerated and ignored. To lament the loss of political persuasion while ignoring the elephant (pun intended) in the room is to insult the intelligence of your audience. And that is never persuasive.

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    George Will's column is never worth reading (5.00 / 3) (#1)
    by andgarden on Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 10:55:33 AM EST
    9 times out of 10, it is a nothing more than a string of lies and logical fallacies.

    That Fred Hiatt would continue to support him is no surprise.

    There's a reason Obama HAS to play (5.00 / 3) (#2)
    by steviez314 on Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 10:56:14 AM EST
    11-dimensional chess.

    It's because the Republicans do not live in the standard 4 dimensional reality the rest of us inhabit.

    Science nerd alert (5.00 / 3) (#3)
    by CST on Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 10:59:25 AM EST
    we don't live in a 4-dimensional reality.

    We may only be aware of 4 dimensions.  But the whole 11-dimensional chess thing is a reference to M-theory (also known as Membrane theory, or String +1), that says there are in fact, 11 dimensions.

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    M-theory isn't really a theory since it has no (5.00 / 2) (#4)
    by steviez314 on Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 11:04:27 AM EST
    verifiable hypotheses that can be tested by observation or reality.

    If you havn't, read Lee Smolin's "The Trouble with Physics."  He really comes down hard on string theory as a dead end non-theory.

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    Wouldn't anything beyond... (none / 0) (#9)
    by EL seattle on Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 12:57:13 PM EST
    ... the 4th dimension require an understanding of the sort of of non-Euclidian geometry that can only be handled by the Great Old Ones themselves without risking an almost certain descent into complete madness?

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    whoa (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by sj on Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 12:42:49 PM EST
    I had to back away from the computer...

    The state of journalism depresses me more (5.00 / 3) (#8)
    by esmense on Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 12:56:02 PM EST
    than the state of our politics. If the watchdogs have no regard for the truth the politicians certainly won't.

    As BTD has been (none / 0) (#12)
    by gyrfalcon on Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 01:16:15 PM EST
    saying for a long time, the terrible state of our politics, and the terrible state of our governance, are a direct result of the terrible state of our journalism.

    Talk about "moral hazard"-- how about we apply a little of that to the George Wills of the world?


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    You're right (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by BernieO on Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 06:15:05 PM EST
    Unless journalism cleans up its act nothing will change. That is not to say that Dems should be excused for not confronting the media for its malpractice.

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    I gave up (5.00 / 3) (#10)
    by oldpro on Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 12:57:25 PM EST
    on fighting our local daily newspaper's insistence on printing letters to the editor containing obvious misstatements of fact in support of political propaganda.  As the editor explained to me, the paper relies on my writing a letter correcting the error (which they may or may not print!)

    Help.

    One thing I love (none / 0) (#11)
    by andgarden on Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 01:09:14 PM EST
    about the NYT Book Review is that letters in response to letters often get printed.

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    You describe the problem perfectly (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by ruffian on Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 01:34:46 PM EST
    All I can do is emphasize that is is the biggest obstacle we proponents of good government face.

    I was glad to see Gibbs take on that CNBC personality, Santelli or whatever his name is (I had never heard of him before). More like that, please. Quote them and name names, and say how they are lying. Do one a day in the press briefing.

    If anything, Fred Hiatt's defense of (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by Anne on Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 01:46:48 PM EST
    Will's writing is much worse than the nonsense that Will wrote, because of what it says about what's important to the Post; it's nothing most of us did not already know, but to see it in black-and-white, unabashed and unrepentant, was a little jarring.

    If what has infected journalism and the media were an actual physical disease, we would have to call in the CDC, which would perhaps quarantine the individuals and the outlets themselves from public view and contact until further notice.  

    The question is, is there an actual cure for what the media are suffering from, and can we ever hope to prevent them from further spreading of their germs to the unsuspecting who think they are getting real information?  I'm kinda doubting it, so since the cure is not going to come from within the industry, we've ended up having to self-quarantine, and choose carefully what we read and listen to lest we become infected ourselves.  Gown and glove up, people!

    Do the Fred Hiatts of the world of print media ever stop to ponder the connection between their massive failures to adhere to any credible journalistic standard and the demise of the newspapers themselves?  Sure, I know there isn't just one reason for why these outlets are dropping like flies, but I know the declining quality of what is being printed is most definitely a factor.


    Watch the profanity please (none / 0) (#7)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 12:53:10 PM EST


    The cure seems to be bankruptcy. (none / 0) (#16)
    by wurman on Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 02:13:38 PM EST
    It appears as if the tremendous loss of readers for the dead-tree press is now obliterating their advertisers.  The papers, themselves, are now filing Chaps. 7 & 11 & some of their holding companies are in deep financial trouble.

    George Will, & many other of the oldtime liars, may not give a R.I.P. because he (they) will just retire & walk away.  But they've killed the goose.  Next up will be the radio biz.

    Then TV.

    It's a dead gig for all the pandering blowhards.

    Not to be missed much, either.

    Then the internet... (none / 0) (#17)
    by EL seattle on Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 02:39:32 PM EST
    ...more than likely, I think.

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    Somehow, that's not a comforting thought (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by wurman on Fri Feb 27, 2009 at 04:34:40 PM EST