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Late Night: Meatloaf

I've had Meatloaf on the brain trying to follow all the latest goings-on with what some people are alleging ABC is going to pull with the finale of The Bachelor. (Warning: big, make that huge spoiler alert, so don't click on the link if you want to be surprised.) ABC may have some 'splaining to do. Right now they've unleashed a Bat Out of Hell on the internets.

On American Idol tonight, Tatiana went home, Danny Gokey, Alexis Grace and Michael Sarver got to stay.

This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    No spoilers (5.00 / 0) (#2)
    by andgarden on Wed Feb 18, 2009 at 11:52:23 PM EST
    But I was mostly happy with the Top Chef results tonight. I was happy with who won, but not who had to go.

    This is one of the few reality (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by Amiss on Thu Feb 19, 2009 at 12:41:51 AM EST
    shows that I really enjoy and I learn a lot about cooking too. I am pulling for the tortoise and not the hare :)

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    IMO (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by andgarden on Thu Feb 19, 2009 at 12:49:31 AM EST
    the two best TV cooks of all time are Julia Child and Jacques Pépin. jeff Smith is up there too, but he had other issues. . .

    I don't really learn any technique from Top Chef, but I enjoy the enthusiasm. I don't often get much beyond scrambled eggs!

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    Two items I saw this morning (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by Anne on Thu Feb 19, 2009 at 09:07:19 AM EST
    that made my eyebrows go up a little (both from Think Progress):

    Gen. David McKiernan, the top U.S. commander in Afganistan, said yesterday that the U.S. "will have to keep about 60,000 troops in Afghanistan for at least the next three to four years to combat an increasingly violent insurgency." McKiernan said that an additional 10,000 troops will be needed beyond the 17,000 President Obama ordered to Afghanistan this week.

    "Increasingly violent insurgency" and "three to four years" are not phrases that thrill me.  I know we have to do something about Afghanistan, but all I seem to be able to think about is the gigantic black hole that is sucking up gazillions of dollars and all the need we have in this country that may not be adequately addressed because of the huge cost of running these wars.

    "A handful of Republican governors are considering turning down some money from the federal stimulus package," which "opponents say puts conservative ideology ahead of the needs of constituents struggling" through the recession. Some governors, like Rick Perry of Texas and Mark Sanford of South Carolina, have opposed the stimulus, but eventually admitted they would take the money.

    According to CBS News, which Think Progress links to:
    Though none has outright rejected the money available for education, health care and infrastructure, the governors of Texas, Mississippi, Louisiana, Alaska, South Carolina and Idaho have all questioned whether the $787 billion bill signed into law this week will even help the economy.

    And while not a big Clyburn fan:

    In fact, governors who reject some of the stimulus aid may find themselves overridden by their own legislatures because of language Clyburn included in the bill that allows lawmakers to accept the federal money even if their governors object.

    [snip]

    He inserted the provision based on the early and vocal opposition to the stimulus plan by South Carolina's Republican governor, Mark Sanford. But it also means governors like Sanford and Louisiana's Bobby Jindal - a GOP up-and-comer often mentioned as a potential 2012 presidential candidate - can burnish their conservative credentials, knowing all the while that their legislatures can accept the money anyway.

    Inserting that language was a good move.  I can only hope that these Republican governors look like the cheap and heartless fools that they apparently are, considering that the states they represent are among the most hard hit by this economy.


    can't talk about Bat Out of Hell (none / 0) (#1)
    by desmoinesdem on Wed Feb 18, 2009 at 11:40:09 PM EST
    without pointing out that songwriter Jim Steinman and producer/guitarist Todd Rundgren made that album what it was--not Meatloaf.

    Not as great as the best of Rundgren's solo albums and Utopia recordings, but still very solid.

    Todd Rundgren is one of a kind... (none / 0) (#3)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Wed Feb 18, 2009 at 11:58:57 PM EST
    For those who don't know his music and those who want to revisit it, here's the VIDEO for "Hello It's Me".

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    To quote one of the commenters (none / 0) (#4)
    by oculus on Thu Feb 19, 2009 at 12:02:07 AM EST
    to this video:  That's a guy?

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    Yes but, imo, when you look that otherwordly (none / 0) (#8)
    by FoxholeAtheist on Thu Feb 19, 2009 at 12:14:10 AM EST
    and fabulous, well gender, schmender! Years ago, I saw him live in some gigantic club in Manhattan. He was on a bill with Phillip Glass, Laurie Anderson, Meredith Monk - if memory serves. It was a VERY good night in my barely legal years.

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    As a closet Idol watcher (none / 0) (#5)
    by CoralGables on Thu Feb 19, 2009 at 12:04:58 AM EST
    good to see the Drama Queen gone. She is a walking talking train wreck.

    Passed Away (none / 0) (#6)
    by cal1942 on Thu Feb 19, 2009 at 12:08:41 AM EST
    There are perhaps only a few Spartans who read this blog, but for those who do.

    Brad Van Pelt, All American defensive back, 1972 Maxwell Trophy winner as the year's outstanding college football player, 14 years with the New York Giants, 10 Pro Bowls, voted the greatest New York Giant of the 70s, elected to the College Football Hall of Fame in 2001.

    Died today (02/19) at 57 of an apparent heart attack.

    A Michigan boy from Owosso went to play football at Michigan State in spite of big money offers to play major league baseball as a can't miss pitcher.

    Aw! (none / 0) (#7)
    by Steve M on Thu Feb 19, 2009 at 12:14:01 AM EST
    That is sad.  Too young.

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    Also sad (none / 0) (#19)
    by cal1942 on Thu Feb 19, 2009 at 11:20:00 AM EST
    because he was a pretty good guy.

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    After all those years I spent (none / 0) (#9)
    by oculus on Thu Feb 19, 2009 at 12:22:38 AM EST
    in Michigan, I had to google to figure out the location of Owosso, which is very close to:  tah tah  East Lansing.

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    WOW! Do you think this is legit? (none / 0) (#12)
    by DeborahNC on Thu Feb 19, 2009 at 02:23:51 AM EST


    Keeping his promises (none / 0) (#13)
    by lentinel on Thu Feb 19, 2009 at 03:59:51 AM EST
    Some people supposedly on the left are quick to justify Obama's sending of thousands of young Americans to fight in Afghanistan because he said he would do so during the campaign. So this latest addition to the world of carnage is OK. Shows Obama is a man of his word. Hooray.

    Of course, in some other areas....

    "The Obama Justice Department has moved to dismiss or delay a lawsuit by Mohammed Jawad -- a teenage prisoner at the Guantanamo Bay prison who says he was detained unlawfully after being tortured.

    And last week, the Justice Department told an appeals court it concurred with a Bush administration argument that a lawsuit by former detainees who say they were subject to extraordinary rendition and then tortured should be thrown out in its entirety because the case relies on "state secrets."   (Reuters)

    The reaction from the left: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    You must not read many lefty blogs (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by Steve M on Thu Feb 19, 2009 at 07:04:07 AM EST
    Including this one, strangely.

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    Point well taken (none / 0) (#21)
    by lentinel on Thu Feb 19, 2009 at 11:53:58 AM EST
    The principle writers on this blog have indeed referred to the backing down of Obama from any promise, stated or implied, to do something substantial concerning torture and offering relief to the prisoners who have been mistreated.

    But in general, I do not hear or sense any outcry from the left.

    I don't hear it about Iraq either. It goes on and now it is no longer Bush's mess. It belongs to the new administration. 500 million dollars a minute down the drain while we bail out banks and can't find adequate funds for victims of Katrina.

    BTW is for the Afghanistan involvement - something I can't feel.
    I don't read any demands for immediate reversals of the obnoxious Patriot Act either. Civil liberties are still in the tank.

    Once people are hurting for food and shelter, they care less about anything else. Understandably. That's why politicians want to keep us down. That is their ticket to power.

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    I meant (none / 0) (#22)
    by lentinel on Thu Feb 19, 2009 at 11:56:29 AM EST
    to say that the ongoing war in Iraq is costing 500 Thousand dollars a minute. Still a pretty penny.

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    NYT (Savage) article (none / 0) (#15)
    by oculus on Thu Feb 19, 2009 at 08:55:23 AM EST
    from Wednesday:  NYT

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    Obama seeking delay in Rove deposition (none / 0) (#17)
    by jbindc on Thu Feb 19, 2009 at 09:09:31 AM EST
    Link

    Former Bush Deputy White House Chief of Staff Karl Rove has a new president urging Congress not to force him to testify next week.

    President Barack Obama.

    In a court brief quietly filed Monday, Michael Hertz, Obama's acting assistant attorney general, said it was necessary to delay an effort to force Rove to be deposed in a congressional investigation into the firing of nine US Attorneys and the alleged political prosecution of a former Alabama governor.

    Hertz said an effort was underway to find a "compromise" for Rove, and requested two weeks to broker a deal before proceeding in court.

    "The inauguration of a new president has altered the dynamics of this case and created new opportunities for compromise rather than litigation," Hertz wrote in the brief released late Monday by McClatchy's Washington, D.C. bureau. "At the same time, there is now an additional interested party -- the former president -- whose views should be considered."



    "New opportunities for compromise" (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by Cream City on Thu Feb 19, 2009 at 09:47:32 AM EST
    does not seem to accord with Rahm Emanuel's statement that the White House now saw that bi/post/non/partisanship was not going to work with these guys.

    How compromising was Rove for the last eight years?

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    Love the Loaf! (none / 0) (#20)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu Feb 19, 2009 at 11:39:45 AM EST
    Worked on a tv movie with him years ago. Funny, energetic, all around good guy.