home

Quote Of The Day

By Big Tent Democrat, Section Media
Posted on Mon Dec 07, 2009 at 03:54:12 PM EST
Tags: (all tags)
Share This: Digg! StumbleUpon del.icio.us reddit reddit
Digby:

The left has been pushing Obama hard from the moment he took office

Digby must be thinking of TalkLeft commenter Andreas and his organization, the Worldwide Socialist Web Site. The rest of "the Left," me included, not so much.

Speaking for me only

< Obama To Discuss Afghanistan Escalation In Nobel Speech | Huckabee Explains Maurice Clemmons Clemency Decision >

  • The Online Magazine with Liberal coverage of crime-related political and injustice news

  • Contribute To TalkLeft


    • Display: Sort:
    Quote Of The Day | 34 comments (34 topical)

    Readers Must Login or Create an Account to Comment

    Maybe Digby is thinking of Bill Ayers. (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by oculus on Mon Dec 07, 2009 at 04:03:25 PM EST
    LAT

    well, (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Dec 07, 2009 at 04:07:10 PM EST
    Clinton and Obama are both mainstream Democrats who occupy exactly the same political terrain in the party and always did. That's what made the primary so bloody.

    maybe
    but it did not help that Obama was lying through his teeth on many, particularly foreign policy, points and was telling people what they wanted to hear.

    Not so sure about that ... (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by Robot Porter on Mon Dec 07, 2009 at 04:42:54 PM EST
    his views on Afghanistan and Health care were fairly clear if you were listening.

    Parent
    those two yes (none / 0) (#22)
    by Capt Howdy on Mon Dec 07, 2009 at 05:41:08 PM EST
    other things like Iraq, not so much.

    Parent
    Yep. I always thought I (4.40 / 5) (#24)
    by hairspray on Mon Dec 07, 2009 at 05:50:26 PM EST
    understood Hillay's positions and preferred her domestic agenda to his.  On foreign policy I knew she would be a centrist.  Simply being a woman is reason enough to understand why.  But you are correct, Obama  lied and now people who thought he would be different than Hillary are angry.  My friend an ex CIA guy is furious.  John is angry because as he says, I could have had the same foreign policy but a better domestic agenda.  I was fooled he said.  Of course the Big Orange is still okay with okey dokey.

    Parent
    on War and Healthcare (none / 0) (#5)
    by Salo on Mon Dec 07, 2009 at 04:18:09 PM EST
    I tend to think he was having a laugh at our expense.  And quite a few people who ought to have known better enabled him to gloss over his true plans:  I'll include Ted Kennedy here.  he had to have heard the contradictions in Obama's rhetoric and planning.

    Parent
    the problem is he wasn't lying (none / 0) (#6)
    by lilburro on Mon Dec 07, 2009 at 04:19:47 PM EST
    he really did want to be post-partisan.

    Parent
    I think he may have, (none / 0) (#8)
    by Zorba on Mon Dec 07, 2009 at 04:26:31 PM EST
    but the truth is, we're no more "post-partisan" in this country than we are "post-racial."  (And I'm giving Obama a huge amount of credit in saying that he "may have" wanted to be post-partisan.)

    Parent
    if post partisan... (5.00 / 2) (#10)
    by Salo on Mon Dec 07, 2009 at 04:29:09 PM EST
    ... means he's going to station 100,000 troops in Afghanistan, retreat on teh PO and give his corporate donors bail outs well i'd say post-partisan is a euphemism for Rockefeller Republicanism.

    Parent
    I can't (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by Zorba on Mon Dec 07, 2009 at 04:50:40 PM EST
    disagree with this, Salo.  I would think that Obama would be embarrassed to pick up the Nobel "Peace Prize" after his troop escalation (not to mention his retreat on the public option, his retreat on DADT and DOMA, and any number of other things).

    Parent
    Heck (none / 0) (#31)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Dec 07, 2009 at 10:08:45 PM EST
    not even Rockefeller Republicanism because they had no use for the evangelicals and fundamentalists that Obama seems to continually cave to.

    At this point, I'd take a Rockefeller Republican over Obama.

    Parent

    This is the scary part (none / 0) (#7)
    by jimakaPPJ on Mon Dec 07, 2009 at 04:21:47 PM EST
    Clinton and Obama are both mainstream Democrats


    Parent
    You should study something (none / 0) (#33)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Dec 08, 2009 at 07:15:20 AM EST
    called "cause and effect."

    Parent
    And heck, since the rich are getting socialism... (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by lambert on Mon Dec 07, 2009 at 05:25:19 PM EST
    ... including central planning, it must not be so bad, right?

    So how 'bout the rest of us get some of that "to each according to their needs" goodness, and not just Golden Sacks and the rest of 'em?

    some are more equal. (none / 0) (#29)
    by oculus on Mon Dec 07, 2009 at 08:48:08 PM EST


    Parent
    Yes sir he's your baby! (none / 0) (#35)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Dec 08, 2009 at 07:18:56 AM EST
    Yes sir! Don't mean maybe!

    Yes sir!

    He's your baby now!

    Parent

    Po' 'bama (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by robotalk on Mon Dec 07, 2009 at 07:40:46 PM EST
    People always pushin' on him.  Askin' him to do stuff.  Leave Po' 'bama alone.

    Perhaps... (none / 0) (#3)
    by Salo on Mon Dec 07, 2009 at 04:11:40 PM EST
    ...he's in a wheel chair and we've been pushing him according to his instructions...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLJYBlObudw

    we are Lou he's Andy.

    Some have, (none / 0) (#4)
    by lilburro on Mon Dec 07, 2009 at 04:17:27 PM EST
    some haven't.  Which is a problem right there.  FDL, Glenn Greenwald, Pam's House Blend.  But that's not the "big scary left blogosphere."  John Cole in particular has been a complete @ss on gay rights so I'm just going to call him out for the hell of it.

    The majority opinion still seems to be "I'm pretty happy because I didn't expect much."  Jane addressed the same issue today.

    Just wait for the internecine blog wars in 2010 and 2012.  That'll be fun.

    Oh (none / 0) (#9)
    by Steve M on Mon Dec 07, 2009 at 04:28:30 PM EST
    I didn't realize Andreas was the proprietor of the WSWS.  I thought he just really liked posting their links!

    Me neither. You'd think I would have (none / 0) (#11)
    by oculus on Mon Dec 07, 2009 at 04:34:02 PM EST
    received kudos for linking to that site for Polanski opinions!

    Parent
    I liked her sentence prior to that one: (none / 0) (#12)
    by Maryb2004 on Mon Dec 07, 2009 at 04:35:58 PM EST
    "Dredging up the primaries is nothing more than cheap link bait ..."

    Yep.  And a way to throw red meat to commenters so they can entertain themselves for a few hours.

    I think (5.00 / 2) (#17)
    by lilburro on Mon Dec 07, 2009 at 04:58:04 PM EST
    holding bloggers accountable for some of the primary BS is a good thing.  Better would be to have a conversation about governing styles.  All I want is for 11 dimensional chess to die.  That was pernicious.

    Parent
    What else is there to talk about, now that (none / 0) (#14)
    by oculus on Mon Dec 07, 2009 at 04:49:52 PM EST
    Polanski is out of jail, Tiger tales seemed to be calming down, and SEC championship is over?

    Parent
    LOL! (none / 0) (#16)
    by Zorba on Mon Dec 07, 2009 at 04:51:38 PM EST
    n/t

    Parent
    Too soon for March Madness? (none / 0) (#18)
    by caseyOR on Mon Dec 07, 2009 at 05:02:29 PM EST
    Is it too soon to start discussing NCAA brackets? Maybe. Maybe it would be best to hold off on that until after the BCS bowl games. Am I right here?

    Parent
    Waaay above my pay grade. (none / 0) (#19)
    by oculus on Mon Dec 07, 2009 at 05:03:37 PM EST


    Parent
    March Madness??? (none / 0) (#34)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Dec 08, 2009 at 07:17:08 AM EST
    Is there an election?

    Parent
    Round 2 could be on the way (none / 0) (#23)
    by Inspector Gadget on Mon Dec 07, 2009 at 05:41:29 PM EST
    Tiger tales seemed to be calming down

    Seems a witness has accused Tiger of having been drinking all day. Check the www.msn.com front page for a link (it keeps locking up my computer).

    Parent

    Hmm (none / 0) (#26)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Dec 07, 2009 at 07:46:33 PM EST
    That's a pretty mean thing to say about Digby and Markos.

    I do not endorse your view of them.

    Full disclosure - I think of them as friends.

    Parent

    Digby and Markos? (none / 0) (#27)
    by Maryb2004 on Mon Dec 07, 2009 at 08:05:09 PM EST
    I meant you.

    And I don't think it was mean.  Just an observation of the way things work.

    Parent

    You meant me???? (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Mon Dec 07, 2009 at 08:12:10 PM EST
    How dare you?!?!?

    (Wink.)

    Parent

    That's just... (none / 0) (#20)
    by lambert on Mon Dec 07, 2009 at 05:24:05 PM EST
    sad.

    like a salesman pushes product (none / 0) (#30)
    by The Last Whimzy on Mon Dec 07, 2009 at 09:36:37 PM EST
    From day one of day one.
    Quote Of The Day | 34 comments (34 topical)

    Readers Must Login or Create an Account to Comment