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Saturday College Football Open Thread

Bowl season starts today. I'll make my picks for the weekend:

Central Florida plays close to home in the St. Petersburg Bowl against Rutgers. Rutgers is a 2.3 point favorite. I generally lean to the warm weather school in bowls generally and the crowd will almost certainly be all pro-UCF. I like UCF (+2.5).

In the New Mexico Bowl, Fresno faces Wyoming. Fresno has been to bowls consistently. Wyoming not recently.More importantly, the talent differential between these 2 teams is large. The line is Fresno by 10.5. I like Fresno (-10.5) in a big way.

In a Sunday game, I like an inspired Middle Tennessee (+4) over Southern Miss.

This is an Open Thread.

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    Not much (none / 0) (#1)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Dec 19, 2009 at 06:51:01 AM EST
    of a football fan but it's an open thread and i'll make a comment about something else.

    It seems that the "progressive blogosphere" is now getting a taste of their own medicine since they are all now being identified as "racists" by the Obama Administration. I'm sorry but this is all too rich for me not to ROFLMAO!!

    Oh No, I suppose I should hit the google (none / 0) (#2)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Dec 19, 2009 at 07:26:43 AM EST
    news.  That race card that Obama plays when he has no good card left is a sad thing to watch.

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    I wonder what Reid and Obama are offering Nelson (none / 0) (#4)
    by Buckeye on Sat Dec 19, 2009 at 07:34:47 AM EST
    for his vote?  An opt in?  LOL.  If that happens, everyone in government should just quit their jobs ASAP.  

    After all the work, time, political capital, speeches, etc. the whole thing is then made optional...

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    I'm okay with an Opt-In (none / 0) (#16)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Dec 19, 2009 at 07:47:54 AM EST
    I think that it may be a catalyst for breaking the conservative gridlock on getting health-care to people too in states that have leaders that attempt to first Opt-out, though that will take time of course. I am not for anything Opt-In that doesn't have a robust Medicaid expansion though or Medicare buy-in.  If they gut the legislation anymore than it is and then make it optional that is intolerable and worthless in the longrun.

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    Yawn (none / 0) (#3)
    by Buckeye on Sat Dec 19, 2009 at 07:31:52 AM EST
    Wake me when the Rose Bowl starts.

    So the Big Ten (none / 0) (#6)
    by jbindc on Sat Dec 19, 2009 at 07:36:42 AM EST
    Can lose another one?

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    Not this time. We are not playing a Carrol USC (none / 0) (#11)
    by Buckeye on Sat Dec 19, 2009 at 07:42:50 AM EST
    juggernaut in a defacto home game for him.

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    Healthcare manager's amendment is (none / 0) (#5)
    by andgarden on Sat Dec 19, 2009 at 07:36:33 AM EST
    on the floor. It appears that they've come to an agreement with Nelson. But the Republicans are insisting on reading the amendment first.

    And (none / 0) (#7)
    by jbindc on Sat Dec 19, 2009 at 07:38:38 AM EST
    Lieberman isn't there today - he's home in Connecticut for the Sabbath and the last day of Hanukkah.

    He was assured by Reid, I guess, that, his votes aren't needed for today.

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    It was true (none / 0) (#9)
    by andgarden on Sat Dec 19, 2009 at 07:39:14 AM EST
    But it was close.

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    Apparently (none / 0) (#10)
    by jbindc on Sat Dec 19, 2009 at 07:42:24 AM EST
    There's a DoD appropriations bill vote today, where there will be enough R's to vote with the D's that his vote won't be needed.

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    Vote already happened (none / 0) (#13)
    by andgarden on Sat Dec 19, 2009 at 07:43:11 AM EST
    I just watched it live. Final passage was 80ish-11. But procedural votes were close.

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    "nonessential" benefits under 1302(b) (none / 0) (#8)
    by andgarden on Sat Dec 19, 2009 at 07:38:55 AM EST
    may be capped.

    What do they consider (none / 0) (#12)
    by jbindc on Sat Dec 19, 2009 at 07:42:54 AM EST
    "non essential"?

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    dunno (none / 0) (#14)
    by andgarden on Sat Dec 19, 2009 at 07:43:28 AM EST
    Check the underlying bill.

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    PDF (none / 0) (#15)
    by andgarden on Sat Dec 19, 2009 at 07:47:32 AM EST
    here, I think. You want to scroll to 1302(b).

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    unrelatedly, 2952(2) isn't to my liking one bit (none / 0) (#17)
    by andgarden on Sat Dec 19, 2009 at 07:51:18 AM EST
    You don't think (none / 0) (#23)
    by jbindc on Sat Dec 19, 2009 at 08:04:06 AM EST
    we should know more about the mental health of women who experience an end to a pregnancy (whether through birth, miscarriage, or abortion)?  I mean, I get the whole thing about abortion, but don't you think that many women who make this agonizing decision have some effects to their mental health - even if temporarily?  Would you be ok if they took out the part of studying the mental health of women who had abortions?

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    Asking for something like that specifically (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by andgarden on Sat Dec 19, 2009 at 08:05:48 AM EST
    in legislation makes my skin crawl.

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    Ok, that's fair. (none / 0) (#25)
    by jbindc on Sat Dec 19, 2009 at 08:06:55 AM EST
    Thanks (none / 0) (#18)
    by jbindc on Sat Dec 19, 2009 at 07:53:50 AM EST
    This is the old bill (none / 0) (#19)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Dec 19, 2009 at 07:55:10 AM EST
    Anyone seen the Manager's Amendment?

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    Are you sure? (none / 0) (#20)
    by andgarden on Sat Dec 19, 2009 at 07:57:14 AM EST
    It's dated yesterday and linked from the Senate Dem's main page.

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    It has the public option in it (none / 0) (#21)
    by Big Tent Democrat on Sat Dec 19, 2009 at 07:57:44 AM EST
    I think (none / 0) (#22)
    by andgarden on Sat Dec 19, 2009 at 08:00:27 AM EST
    this may be it.

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    I thought that was what I was (none / 0) (#27)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Dec 19, 2009 at 08:12:45 AM EST
    reading with the Secretary having to make market determinations of different coverages and then "provide" that coverage, but maybe I'm not understanding what is being written of.  I've no reason to ever expect a public option and now one has materialized out of thin air?  How does this happen?  A public option with a possible $2,000 yearly deductible for an individual policy does not sound like fun, but that is the deductible cap and does not reflect what the actual deductibles could be.

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    There isn't anything specifically defining (none / 0) (#26)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Dec 19, 2009 at 08:08:43 AM EST
    that I could find.

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    Well, not to interrupt the health care (none / 0) (#28)
    by Anne on Sat Dec 19, 2009 at 09:08:20 AM EST
    conversation, but we are waking up here in MD to a foot of snow, with another 12 to 18 inches expected before it's all over...a nor'easter with temps cold enough to turn all that moisture into snow.

    It's beautiful out here in the country, but we are supposed to get blizzard-like conditions by this afternoon - hoping the power holds up!

    Did some shopping last night, in lieu of today, so will spend the day wrapping and getting some things done around the house, and I think there will be some cookie baking going on as well.

    Fire crackling in the fireplace, got some cocoa heating up for the snow-shovelers and am starting to get that wrapped-in-a-cozy-cotton-ball feeling that heavy snow brings - the hushed and peaceful quiet interrupted by only the sound of the snow shovels.  Bird feeders were filled yesterday, suet cakes put out, and birds are most appreciative - at least I assume they are!

    TV is not on at the moment - the local stations are in full big-snow mode, blathering on and on and on.  My favorite (sarcasm) part is the reporters stationed around the region to show people what they could see if the would back away from the TV and look out the window...

    So...time to feed the hungry; everyone who's in the path of this storm, stay warm and have fun!

    Any of you going to Met HD of (none / 0) (#29)
    by oculus on Sat Dec 19, 2009 at 11:14:41 AM EST
    Tales of Hoffman? (I am.)

    Please explain (again): (none / 0) (#30)
    by oculus on Sat Dec 19, 2009 at 11:16:17 AM EST
    The line is Fresno by 10.5. I like Fresno (-10.5) in a big way.

    Is BTD predicting Fresno will finish 21 pts. over Wyoming?

    Nah (5.00 / 1) (#31)
    by Steve M on Sat Dec 19, 2009 at 11:29:09 AM EST
    he's just saying the same thing twice.  He thinks Fresno will win by 11 or more.

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    Turns out... (none / 0) (#32)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Sat Dec 19, 2009 at 08:00:18 PM EST
    ...he was wrong on two counts--(1) that Fresno State would win the game and (2) that they would win by more than 10.5 points.  

    Twice the fail...

    Go Cowboys!

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