Monday Night Open Thread

I watched the opening episode of "V" yesterday, it's pretty far out there. Some are linking it to the "hope and changers" that followed President Obama last year. Others say that's silly. The show denies it, saying it's just about blind devotion. If you haven't seen it, you can watch online for free here.

I'm watching DWTS tonight. Here's an open thread for you, all topics welcome.

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    "Honey, I am the athletic director." (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by Steve M on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 09:13:15 PM EST
    This link is especially for oculus.

    Ah, I almost envy the faculty (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by Cream City on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 10:37:55 PM EST
    on the athletic committee there.  Some meetings can be fun, when you get to say something on the order of, "Honey, you may be the athletic director, but we're your oversight board . . . honey."

    (Had a coach at our campus who, with his asst coaches, was making women students who worked in the Union miserable -- well, except for the one for whom he later left his wife -- and when one of those women students told me the details, I had fun going to the athletic director and telling him that his coach had just hit on the niece of a member of the Alumni Athletic Hall of Fame . . . and that if he didn't do something about it, I would help the girl tell her dad, the Hall of Fame hotshot.  

    (That coach is gone.  Don't miss him a bit, even though he was said to be such a . . . pearl.)


    It was 1956 (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by Steve M on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 10:59:38 PM EST
    before women were permitted to walk through the front door of the Michigan Union.

    Thanks -- I think (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by Cream City on Tue Nov 10, 2009 at 12:33:08 AM EST
    that goes in one of my lectures, Steve M.  It's so hard to find these details that hit home to students today -- but I bet that one will!

    You are a virtual fount of info tonight. (none / 0) (#16)
    by oculus on Tue Nov 10, 2009 at 01:01:11 AM EST
    How do you know this?  

    I learned, not too long ago, through an alumni publication, the Dean of Women when I was at U of M wrote a letter to each student's mom reporting on how the student/daughter was doing.  Including info about biracial dating.  


    Strike "virtual." (none / 0) (#17)
    by oculus on Tue Nov 10, 2009 at 01:05:08 AM EST
    There are some facts (none / 0) (#18)
    by Steve M on Tue Nov 10, 2009 at 02:45:33 AM EST
    you learn as a student that you never ever forget.  That one was a real wake-up.

    Where were you a student when you (none / 0) (#26)
    by oculus on Tue Nov 10, 2009 at 11:43:43 AM EST
    learned this factoid?  (I thought you went to MSU.)

    My law degree (none / 0) (#27)
    by Steve M on Tue Nov 10, 2009 at 12:11:35 PM EST
    is from the maize 'n' blue place.

    No wonder you are so damn smart. (none / 0) (#28)
    by oculus on Tue Nov 10, 2009 at 12:14:31 PM EST
    Ha. Did AD Martin play for Woody? (none / 0) (#14)
    by oculus on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 11:53:58 PM EST
    Obama (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by Slado on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 09:41:46 PM EST
    hasn't cornered the market on blind devotion and while some "obamabots" might fall into this mode most of his supporters are just democrats.

    The show is classic Hollywood.   Just like 24 is classic Hollywood. Anyone trying to find deeper meaning in a TV show needs to put the blog down.

    'Refreshingly' Techtarded Web Question (5.00 / 2) (#11)
    by Ellie on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 10:36:38 PM EST
    I noticed that the irritatingly unnavigable HuffiPo inserts a gratuitous "refresh" between the home page and an on/off-site link so a viewer must hit the back arrow twice.

    Now I know that hits and refreshes throw the blogs some ad-love, but wouldn't Huffi's Sugar Addies know they're being punk'd?

    Some just auto-refresh for you regardless, for the same purpose I presume.

    Was enthralled... (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by kdog on Tue Nov 10, 2009 at 08:13:16 AM EST
    by the original "V" as a kid, Michael Ironsides kikes arse:)

    The big lesson/moral I always took from the miniseries is occupations always fail, and in an armed conflict there is no advantage like the homefield advantage.

    In Afghanistan and Iraq...we're the reptiles.

    I suppose you don't remember (none / 0) (#23)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Nov 10, 2009 at 08:57:33 AM EST

    Was that the one where... (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by kdog on Tue Nov 10, 2009 at 09:27:06 AM EST
    Russian homefield smoked the Germans...and only our atomic weapons could overcome Japan's homefield?

    Point taken though buddy...if your are willing to kill tens of thousands in one shot with WMD's, homefield can be overcome.  Good thing the reptiles needed us for food and our planet for resources, otherwise their WMD's might have prevailed.


    That's quite a crew (none / 0) (#31)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Nov 10, 2009 at 08:17:59 PM EST
    of assistants you have there... though I would count my fingers after shaking hands with them if I were you...

    Point being that if you are going to fight a war or a bar room brawl, fight to win and to change the hearts and minds. To do that it is most likely you will have to wack enough of'em to convince them your way is the only way.

    We did that in WWII. We haven't since.


    Details, details (none / 0) (#30)
    by jondee on Tue Nov 10, 2009 at 02:42:24 PM EST
    You mean, we didnt just smoke 'em outa' thier holes and then drill baby, drill?

    If it wont fit on a yellow ribbon bumpersticker it never happened.


    sorry, I never watch football (none / 0) (#2)
    by Jeralyn on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 08:39:55 PM EST
    Just not into it. But I do hope the Broncos win.

    You didn't miss much. (none / 0) (#22)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Tue Nov 10, 2009 at 08:50:38 AM EST
    I ended up watching a show on PBS about the effect of the Beatles in the USSR.  Very interesting--the central theory was that Beatlemania did more to undermine communism than anything else.  

    I think V... (none / 0) (#3)
    by Jerrymcl89 on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 08:43:02 PM EST
    ... like Battlestar Galactica, is pretty free-wheeling in it's political allegory, and isn't likely to be advancing any particular political cause, other than that the premise inherently casts doubt on excessive naivete. I guess that could apply to the most idealistic Obama-ites, but ultimately, I don't think it's really got a lot to say about the real world, except "we want the real world to watch us".

    completely agree (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by abdiel on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 09:55:19 PM EST
    It might be gentle trolling to get anti-Obama viewers.  I like the loose political allegories and the ominous conspiracy theories, but my real issue is Morena Baccarin's haircut and her ugly silver outfits.  Aliens who travel millions of light years can surely do better than that.  We wouldn't show up to another planet with sentient life wearing khaki shorts and a t-shirt, right?

    Awwww... c'mon (none / 0) (#10)
    by Upstart Crow on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 09:59:55 PM EST
    I'm told that's the Audrey Hepburn look (although the silver suit isn't Givenchy by a long shot).

    It was wonderful escapism (none / 0) (#4)
    by Cream City on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 09:04:38 PM EST
    before, and last week's premier looked like wonderful escapism again.  And I have found that escapism -- although I usually turn to fiction for it -- has it purposes.  I look forward to the next episode tomorrow.

    the cast is mostly good (none / 0) (#5)
    by Jeralyn on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 09:12:05 PM EST
    I am not crazy about the female FBI agent, she's kind of bland/boring, but the rest, from her cute son to the reporter with the good anchor looks to the V leader are good. The V leader has great posture and very expressive eyes. I like Ryan Nichols too, he's a little intense, but I guess that's the role, and it's better than bland.

    I've seen most of them before. (none / 0) (#7)
    by Jerrymcl89 on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 09:26:14 PM EST
    Elizabeth Mitchell (the FBI agent) was on Lost, and I liked her there. I think she's a good actress, even if the the character is underwritten. Morena Baccarin (the V leader) was on Firefly, as was Alan Tudyk (Mitchell's partner, who turns out to be on the scaly side). Scott Wolf was on Party of Five, and is well cast as the anchor, having that Tom Cruise-like perpetually young look to him. I remember the previous incarnation of V well (the mini-series, at least), so I'm willing to give it a shot.

    I'm looking forward to the 2nd as well (none / 0) (#19)
    by zaladonis on Tue Nov 10, 2009 at 02:46:26 AM EST
    I like that the Catholic Church is the mix and I think the skeptical priest is well played so far.  Although the current HCR/abortion/Catholic Church thing is not in the script at all, V was the first thing I thought of when it unfolded last week.

    Devotion is dangerous.


    That priest is solid (none / 0) (#20)
    by Slado on Tue Nov 10, 2009 at 08:03:15 AM EST
    and did a great job playing "Bobby Jones" in that Will Smith golf movie that I can't freaking remember....

    Judge orders release to specified (none / 0) (#29)
    by oculus on Tue Nov 10, 2009 at 02:05:54 PM EST
    persons of identity of person who commented on line at a newspaper website:  Chicago Tribune