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Sunday Open Thread

Our last open thred (Friday) is all filled up.

I'm off to a college graduation this morning (which unbelievably is going to last four hours until 1 pm, and then with lunch, till 3pm.) Then I get to rush home to meet Comcast who will try and tell me why my DVR machine blacks out every night and loses the saved recordings. Since it's probably a box problem, I guess that means I'll be getting a shiny new DVR. Hard to believe the one I have is already 5 years old. Hard to complain though. How many electronics that you run hours a day for five years can last much longer than that?

On Friday, the Government delivered discovery in my latest case with 18 defendants: 16 wiretapped phones and more than 5,000 pertinent calls, all in Spanish. That's my night-time project, to start digging in. I'll be curious to see what language they're using in 2013 for getting prospective cell cite locator information -- whether they are sticking to their argument that they don't need to show probable cause, just a relevance showing under the Stored Communications Act, or whether they've modified it to include probable cause based on the numerous recent court decisions distinguishing between historical and real-time data. In a recent case, I asked the FBI agent if they had the real time locator information showing on a monitor in the control room where they listen to the wiretap calls, and he said yes.

Here's an order denying prospective or real-time cell site locator data by a Magistrate judge named Owsley in Texas. [More...]

He says probable cause is required. Another great issue: Law enforcements use of "cell tower dumps" in which they get the subscriber info and cell cite locator data for every call using the same cell tower as their target. Hundreds of innocents persons' records are swept up. What do they do with them when the investigation is done? Do they remain in their database? The should be destroyed. Judge Owlsey writes

Finally, there is no discussion about what the Government intends to do with all of the data related to innocent people who are not the target of the criminal investigation. In one criminal investigation, the Government received the names, cell phone numbers, and subscriber information of 179 innocent individuals. See United States v. Soto, No. 3:09CR200 (D.Conn. May 18, 2010) (Memorandum in Support of Motion to Suppress).

Although the use of a court-sanctioned cell tower dump invariably leads to such information being provided to the Government, in order to receive such data, the Government at a minimum should have a protocol to address how to handle this sensitive private information. Although this issue was raised at the hearing, the Government has not addressed it to date. This failure to address the privacy rights for the Fourth Amendment concerns of these innocent subscribers whose information will be compromised as a request of the cell tower dump is another factor warranting the denial of the application.

From the Amicus brief in the Soto case:

The facts of this case demonstrate that the government is already using the available cell site technology not only to retrace the movements over time of those suspected of involvement in a crime, but to review the movement and associations of 180 individuals, some of whom could not have any possible connection to the investigation. These facts illustrate that "dragnet type law enforcement practices" that threaten to eviscerate privacy rights and chill associational and other expressive activities are now a reality. Knotts, 460 U.S. at 283-84 (reserving for another day the constitutionality of dragnet type law enforcement practices like twenty-four hour surveillance); United States v. Garcia, 474 F.3d 994, 998 (7th Cir. 2007) (permitting warrantless GPS tracking when the police have a suspect in their sights, but stating that "[t]echnological progress poses a threat to privacy by enabling an extent of surveillance that in earlier times would have been prohibitively expensive" and reserving decision on constitutionality of programs of mass surveillance), cert. denied, 552 U.S. 883 (2007); W.D. Pa. 2008 (Lenihan),534 F. Supp. 2d at 612 ("[N]ewly-emergent technologies create the potential to monitor associational activities in a manner that could have a chilling effect").

The Fourth Amendment protects an individual's reasonable expectations of privacy in information that he "seeks to preserve as private." Katz, 389 U.S. at 351. It cannot be correct that that Amendment has nothing to say about whether government, enabled by technology, may subject Americans to round-the-clock surveillance of their movements for as long as it likes.

Another good reason to turn off your location based services on your phone and not announce your presence at places on apps like four square: It's an announcement to the world that you are not at home.

So much to do, so little time. Here's an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    and speaking of being spied on... (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by unitron on Sun May 19, 2013 at 07:52:17 AM EST
    ...by dear old Uncle Sam...

    FBI Considers CALEA II: Mandatory Wiretapping On Every Device

    "In response to declining utility of CALEA mandated wiretapping backdoors due to more widespread use of cryptography, the FBI is considering a revamped version that would mandate wiretapping facilities in end users' computers and software."

    Elder Daughter's ceremony was long, too. (5.00 / 2) (#15)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun May 19, 2013 at 01:41:58 PM EST
    It clocked in at just over three hours. I could see a four-hour commencement if it's a very large university and they recognize all the master's and doctoral candidates individually, as they did at SUNY-Albany this morning. But if it's a smaller school, then I think that ceremony's being run by sadists. At least they're giving you lunch.

    We're going out to dinner later to celebrate, but it's going to be an early night, because The Spouse and Elder Daughter return home to Honolulu early tomorrow morning. I have to get them to the airport at 5:00 a.m., because they leave at 6:30 a.m. for Washington-Dulles, and then fly nonstop to HNL, about a 13-hour trip in total with the 90-min. layover.

    My mother, Younger Daughter and I are flying back to L.A. (via Chicago-O'Hare) at 10:00 a.m., where I've got some meetings with two prospective clients before my own return home on Thursday evening. Younger Daughter is saying on in L.A. with her cousins through the weekend, before heading back to UH-Hilo for summer semester.

    Aloha.

    Congrats to Elder Daughter. Finishing (5.00 / 2) (#16)
    by caseyOR on Sun May 19, 2013 at 01:57:05 PM EST
    college is no small achievement. And a well done to you and Mrs. DinH. I am sure your support and guidance helped her along the path to this success.

    Parent
    Wesley Snipes was the commencement (none / 0) (#18)
    by oculus on Sun May 19, 2013 at 03:45:01 PM EST
    Peaked at SUNY-Purchase when my daughter graduated. The very essence of brevity.

    Parent
    Congrats to you and your daughter (none / 0) (#21)
    by desertswine on Sun May 19, 2013 at 06:30:56 PM EST
    at the commencement I went to (none / 0) (#24)
    by Jeralyn on Sun May 19, 2013 at 07:45:59 PM EST
    today (for the TL kid's significant other, she received her BA in social work, she's been going part-time, while working as a paralegal, for several years, and this year added an internship with Social Services to the already hectic schedule) was three hours. There were 1850 graduates and they called each one by name and had them come up for their diploma. The speeches were pretty short. The head of the university (it is Metropolitan State University of Denver) devoted almost the entire speech to how it was the first school to grant not only in state tuition but lower rates to the undocumented -- even before our Governor signed a bill this year providing that the undocumented can get in state rates. I was the first to clap (many others joined in.)

    Since she had to be there at 7:30 (it began at 9), I went at 8:30. The iPhone is amazing. The TL kid and Ms. TL kid's dad had gotten us seats, and he texted me a message with a red pin. When I clicked on it, it turned into a compass and I could walk directly to where they were sitting. My location was a blue dot, and I just walked towards the red pin on my phone, and there they were, among the thousands of people. (I think it's a feature of Apple Maps.)

    We didn't get lunch, but at least they sold bottled water -- it got pretty hot. Went to lunch after, really a nice day. (And my cable's all fixed now, it was the cable box.)

    Congrats, Donald, and safe trip home.

    Parent

    I'll catch up with everyone in a couple of days from Southern California.

    Aloha.

    Parent

    In a somewhat related story... (none / 0) (#1)
    by unitron on Sun May 19, 2013 at 06:27:23 AM EST
    ...the Federal 1st Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that police can't search your phone when they arrest you without a warrant.

    So I guess that means they'll get all your phone data without a warrant and then they'll arrest you, at which point they won't need to search your phone.

    The cable guy is coming out on a Sunday? (none / 0) (#2)
    by unitron on Sun May 19, 2013 at 06:35:53 AM EST
    "...tell me why my DVR machine blacks out every night and loses the saved recordings."

    Are these recordings that you know the machine actually made?

    As in you could play them back right after they're made (if it were convenient at that time), but later on they aren't there any more despite still having plenty of disc space?

    Could be the CCI bit (click me) is set to 3 or 7 on those shows and they "evaporate" after 90 minutes.

    yes they were recorded (none / 0) (#4)
    by Jeralyn on Sun May 19, 2013 at 08:09:50 AM EST
    and on the DVR for months -- the Stones' Crossfire Hurricane and the History of the Eagles. The tv works fine but when I press the dvr a message comes up "DVR service not available, call Comcast.)

    They give it a jolt (by phone) and a few hours later it's back with my recordings. The next day the same thing happened. They think it's the cable/DVR box that's faulty.

    Yes, they come out on Saturdays and Sunday with a 2 hour window.

    Parent

    also, the record function doesn't work (none / 0) (#5)
    by Jeralyn on Sun May 19, 2013 at 08:12:45 AM EST
    when the DVR isn't working. The cable TV has not been affected, just the DVR part.

    Parent
    Sounds more like... (none / 0) (#14)
    by unitron on Sun May 19, 2013 at 12:36:47 PM EST
    ...their software on the box is faulty than the box itself (unless it's actually software at the head end that's falsely telling the box that you don't have a valid subscription or something like that), but if they've been on the box that long then the CCI bit isn't the problem.

    Does there seem to be any consistency about the time of day when the problem pops up?

    Is there, buried in a sub-menu somewhere, a place that tells when the box last "phoned home" to Comcast to get updated guide data?

    That could be when it's being lied to about your account no longer being valid or something.

    Although I wouldn't entirely rule out the problem being related to that spawn of Satan otherwise known as High-Definition Multimedia Interface, featuring High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection, or that other marvelous opportunity for mysterious problems, Switched Digital Video.

    But my specific DVR experience is limited to TiVo.

    (So nice to be able to do your own hard drive upgrades, and if you discontinue the subscription you can still watch the stuff you've already recorded)

    Parent

    Dadler's ecard of the day (none / 0) (#6)
    by Dadler on Sun May 19, 2013 at 08:19:02 AM EST
    I just heard a wonderful performance (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by oculus on Sun May 19, 2013 at 09:17:21 AM EST
    of an obscure oratorio. 11 am. But the performance was not in a church.

    Parent
    I watched (5.00 / 2) (#13)
    by lentinel on Sun May 19, 2013 at 12:00:15 PM EST
    a rebroadcast on ARTE of a Toscanini performance in the 1950s with the NBC Symphony Orchestra.

    No extra motion.
    The music just flowed out of him and his countenance.

    The camera work was great too.
    No jumping around from section to section depending on who plays what phrase. Just a focus on the conductor and orchestra from the perspective of the audience - or a lateral view of everyone. Or - a prolonged focus on Toscanini's face as he conducts. You could sense every single note.

    Really magic.

    Parent

    I'm going to church now. (5.00 / 3) (#12)
    by Dr Molly on Sun May 19, 2013 at 11:23:01 AM EST
    That's what I call my Sunday morning yoga class :)

    Parent
    Eurovision (none / 0) (#11)
    by sj on Sun May 19, 2013 at 11:20:38 AM EST
    I don't get the Eurovision Song Competition on Comcast though I wish I did so I never watch, but... I have to say that I'm amused by this story that Germany's entry may have done so poorly because the rest of Europe is pi$$ed at Angela Merkel who is
    ..loathed in parts of Europe for her insisting on painful austerity measures in countries such as Greece, Spain and Italy in exchange for rescue packages.


    Anecdotal evidence: Germans are pissed (none / 0) (#17)
    by oculus on Sun May 19, 2013 at 03:42:26 PM EST
    at Greece, not Merkel.

    Parent
    Why would Germans (none / 0) (#22)
    by sj on Sun May 19, 2013 at 06:36:21 PM EST
    be pissed at Merkel? They've been cheering her on all along. Of course they're going to blame the not-Germans. Doesn't matter though. The German singer was 21st out of 26 countries.  Possibly (not definitively) because the rest of Europe is not as enamored of Merkel as the Germans. So the Germans can be as pi$$ed as they wish at whomever they wish, but they got clobbered in Eurovision which is kind of a big deal.

    So I'm amused.

    Parent

    Culture alert: Cecilia Bartolli nails (none / 0) (#19)
    by oculus on Sun May 19, 2013 at 03:46:55 PM EST
    Bellini's "Norma."  Check out the new recording.

    Culture Alert to you, as well (none / 0) (#27)
    by Dadler on Sun May 19, 2013 at 08:13:42 PM EST
    Love Cecilia Bertoli's voice (none / 0) (#28)
    by Peter G on Sun May 19, 2013 at 09:45:17 PM EST
    (name pronounced "che-cheelia," I gather).  Not an opera fan, but we have a daughter named Cecilia, so I decided to give CB a try.

    Parent
    I thought it (none / 0) (#30)
    by sj on Sun May 19, 2013 at 09:58:05 PM EST
    was pronounced "se-cheelia" but what do I know.

    Parent
    Could be (none / 0) (#31)
    by Peter G on Sun May 19, 2013 at 11:20:45 PM EST
    Would be interested in having some authoritative feedback on that point.

    Parent
    Cecilia Bartoli (none / 0) (#29)
    by sj on Sun May 19, 2013 at 09:55:41 PM EST
    was my first opera love. Saw her as Susanna in Figaro at the Met. It was either 2000 or 1999.  I think.

    Parent
    Weekend movie review (none / 0) (#20)
    by CoralGables on Sun May 19, 2013 at 05:48:25 PM EST
    "Searching for Sugar Man"

    An amazing story.

    That's all that's needed.
    Just 3 words.

    That was an amazing movie. (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by Dr Molly on Sun May 19, 2013 at 06:48:30 PM EST
    Love love love

    Parent
    great movie, I loved it (none / 0) (#25)
    by Jeralyn on Sun May 19, 2013 at 07:47:42 PM EST
    Has anyone watched Continuum? (none / 0) (#26)
    by Jeralyn on Sun May 19, 2013 at 07:52:24 PM EST
    It's on Netflix, it's a series about a group of terrorists in 2077 sentenced to death who while in the courtroom press a button and they all go up in a pouf, taking a female cop with them, back to 2012. She has all these high tech powers which were implanted in her in 2077, but she misses her husband and son and wants to get back, while the terrorists (they are anti-corporate terrorists, no religion involved) start violent gang warfare. Takes place in Canada, it's a Canadian series. Pretty good, I'm on episode 4.

    Apparently they are about to launch Season 2, so Season 1 is free on Netflix.